This fear is not sustainable in the long term.
What are they going to do in the far future when making a nuclear weapon can be done by any country in the world in less than a day?

Just let them build their nuclear weapons, they will not use it as long as no one else does.

>>507654447

because israel want to dictate regime change whenever they like and a nuke would prevent that

>>507664966 (OP)
They're wacky, religious ideology driven desert rats.

>>507664966 (OP)
The precedent of
>build a nuke and you get to stay in power forever
is a very bad one, but it ultimately seems inevitable.

>>507665227
All we can do is hope they finish the final mechanism in the next few hours and follow through. Fuck Israel.

>>507664966 (OP)
Because they are a religious state and openly aggressive to the West. So fuck the sand niggers and their death cult.

>>507665540
Yeah. All of them. Including Israel.

>>507665420
But enough about Israel

>>507664966 (OP)
Because they have repeatedly publicly stated that they want nukes in order to destroy Israel, thus turning an ideological pissing contest into a global political shitstorm.

>>507665531
That narrative isn't true. If Iran were to acquire a nuclear weapon it would be solely for deterrence.

>>507665540
The same can be said about anyone else, don't you think?
Specially countries that have a nuclear waeapon and are being hypocrites about it.

>>507665540
>religious state
So is Israel.
>and openly aggressive to the West
Only because of the West's position with regards to Palestine. Oh and btw, Jews and their media have caused more damaged to the West than any Muslim country.

>>507664966 (OP)
They better hurry the fuck up and put their refined uranium to good use.

>>507664966 (OP)
honestly, i think most of europe should disarm now that they're bing conquered by islam. we should get ahead of it before it gets out of hand.

>>507664966 (OP)

Israel wants to maintain a dominant cultural presence in the region (and world) if they let Muslims win then it's like against their entire religion and feeble perspective

Literally no other reason, everyone else in the world has them, Israel is too proud to lose their position of superiority.

>>507664966 (OP)
why is the US the arbiter of this anyway?

>>507665681
Israel is, too. They all are. At least Christianity stopped their reign of terror.

>>507665697
that's just a metaphor and a campaign slogan. it's actually kikes doing the destruction.

>>507664966 (OP)
I’m pretty sure they don’t have any.
This is all a Mossad orchestration. I’ve seen it before.

>>507664966 (OP)
This is about Iran giving up it's civil nuclear program in it's entirety. It has nothing to do with nuclear weapons anymore, that is a lie.

>>507665744
I don't care, really. My hope remains that they nuke Israel off the face of the planet and begin an assassination campaign to take out the jewish world elites and everyone who inherits their empires. It's a severe slim chance that any of that can happen, but I also hope that GW Bush gets flesh-eating bacteria on his genitals.

>>507664966 (OP)
nukes are not real they're a cold war myth. just like moonlanding was. humans never visited moon in 1950's that'as ridiculous idea. we cant even reach the moon even 2025. hiroshima was firebombed

but if they were real and if they got nukes they would fire them at tel aviv. these are not peaceful countries

>>507664966 (OP)
Self-defense is anti-Semitic.

>>507665697
Crazy how america turns mean words and turns them into causus belli

>>507665847
There's also the little matter of the Brits, with the help of the CIA, overthrowing Iran's democratically elected government and imposing a dictator on the Iranian people who didn't give a shit about the values of the people. Anyone who disagreed was tortured and even killed. That's why Iranians welcomed in an Islamic republic as the alternative to proto-globohomo dictatorship of the West. We've been throwing a temper tantrum over that ever since. Nothing pisses globohomo off more than one of the regime changes being overthrown.

>>507665744
>Trust me bro
I hate the kikes too but come on now we are past that.

>>507664966 (OP)
It's just a bullshit excuse to reduce Iran to a servile cuck nation like they have with Iraq, Syria and Jordan. Israel can't survive unless they're surrounded by controlled secular states with a central banking system that has the power of life and death over them.
Iran is the antithesis of that.

>>507664966 (OP)
>Why Iran can't have a nuclear weapon?
From the American perspective? It's fairly obvious. Iran is run by an extremist religious death cultists. Their primary mottos include "death to America", "America is the big satan", etc. You can't count on mutual nuclear deterrence with people like that, because they're inherently unreasonable. They're willing to strap a bomb vest to themselves and blow themselves up to kill infidels. Who's to say that they wouldn't gladly nuke the US, the US's allies, or even other Islamic countries they don't like like Saudi Arabia, and happily be nuked back, because in their minds they're doing the righteous thing by sacrificing themselves to kill infidels. Them having weapons of mass destruction poses an existential threat to everybody. The fact that they must not have them is nonnegotiable.

>>507667473
They said they wouldn't use it in the treaty they signed. The problem is Israel didn't trust them. So Israel was in the wrong for provoking them. They are just schizoing out.

>>507667083
>There's also the little matter of the Brits, with the help of the CIA, overthrowing Iran's democratically elected government and imposing a dictator on the Iranian people who didn't give a shit about the values of the people.
But even he turned out to be a "disappointment": https://youtu.be/Ksu5YHK5ZDo. I doubt they would have let it turn into an Islamic Republic otherwise.

>>507664966 (OP)
If india can have nukes then everyone can have nukes.

>>507667473
>From the American perspective? It's fairly obvious.
israel said so

>>507667828
What part of "they're inherently unreasonable death cultists" did you not understand? They can sign whatever treaty with you, and you can wipe your ass with it, because they'll continue building weapons of mass destruction to obliterate you, because sacrificing themselves by killing you in their eyes is a nonnegotiable commandment from God.

>>507668074
I'd say if Israel has them, everyone should. They should all be aimed at Israel and Rothschild homes.

>>507664966 (OP)
Because it has never been acceptable for nations to just “get” nuclear weapons, idiot. The ones that do are usually backed by superpowers and there is a struggle throughout. You can’t just stand back and stick your head in the sand, /pol/, this isn’t a fantasy in your head where we all walk off together into the sunset sucking off Mullahs.

>>507667473
>Their primary mottos include "death to America", "America is the big satan", etc.
That's conditional on America providing bombs that are used to kill children. Why aren't they screaming "death to Poland"? Poland is more Christian than the US. Why not "Death to Norway"? Norway's whiter than the US. Etc.
>Them having weapons of mass destruction poses an existential threat to everybody. The fact that they must not have them is nonnegotiable.
They are much, much more reasonable than, say, North Korea. They can't have weapons because of Israel. Simple as.

>>507664966 (OP)
>This fear is not sustainable in the long term.
Been going over 30 years

>>507665227
Correct. Iran MUST unironically secure the bomb for peace.

>>507664966 (OP)
never going to happen lol. they won't even let countries make their own computer chips lmfao

>>507668181
These words can be propaganda just to give an excuse to dominate them.
Anyone can imagine and say whatever they want in their heads.
Peace should start with trust and fairness.

I don't believe Iran would nuke Israel, they are not stupid and they understand how the world would punish them if they attacked with nuclear weapons.
They just want be par with the top countries for self defense, as we are seeing Israel are the crazy ones who enjoys making hell.

>>507664966 (OP)
because they would launch them at every non-muslim city immediately

>>507668320
>They are much, much more reasonable than, say, North Korea
Absolutely not. The leadership of North Korea are a bunch of psychopaths, but materialist psychopaths, so you can count on them wanting to preserve their material interests. Iran is run by religious death cultists. Ones who are willing to kill themselves to kill you. Again, Iran not being allowed to have nukes is nonnegotiable.

>>507664966 (OP)
Less nukes is always a good thing, but North Korea is arguably crazier and Iran.

>>507664966 (OP)
After this fiasco, Iran has casus belli to nuke Israel now. Before it didn't really, but now it does. Israel should be nuked several times.

>>507664966 (OP)
Was never about nuclear weapons. Was always about regime change. You see that in how boomers move goalposts. They originally said Iran was enriching too much uranium. Now they say any amount isn't allowed. "The only way to ensure it never happens is regime change".

>>507664966 (OP)
>Why Iran can't have a nuclear weapon?
Why should we let them?
They're disgusting sandniggers.

>>507668722
That is what Israel wants you to think.
But I don't believe they are stupid to act on impulse like that. It would destroy their reputation - every other country would hate them -, and the radiation would affect Iran as well since the countries are close to each other.

>>507664966 (OP)
Cuz white fragility

>>507668722
Pakistan has nukes and they haven't done it.
They're also 10x poorer than iran and way more religious while sheltering Osama bin laden

>>507668246
I agree

>>507668722
いや、イスラエルだけが標的。ニューヨークかもけど、それはかなり遠い

>>507669217
>while sheltering Osama bin laden
The CIA operative? The Bin Ladin family is still billionaires, are they not? Pakistan's people are poor; the elites are not.

>>507668671
The idea that Iran would nuke the US or the West is so monstrously ridiculous only the shabbosest golems of all can believe it. We're talking "religious" nutbags who worship Jews and so on. Or maybe the biggest retards who just absorb Fox News and Bibi tweets like it's dogma.
>>507668861
>death cultists
ISIS are death cultists. Iranian Shiites nowhere near. They are the tamest Muslims in the entire region (unlike for example al-Sharaa, whose men beheaded and crucified children for being on the wrong side; and yes, you can find media of that online). You very obviously don't know what you're talking about.

>>507669217
Pakistan isn't a theocracy

>>507664966 (OP)
You're a retard if you think it has anything to do with nukes. It is another one of those oil wars. They want a regime change to prevent non-dollar denominated oil sales to China from Iran, and save the US bond market. By the way, Russia, Venezuela are also about the same. Just kill millions for more & more free money so that a bunch of retards can enjoy their drug infused hedonist lifestyles.

>>507668671
No, you fucking faggot. It's not a symmetrist issue. The western world and the majority of the eastern world is materialist. This doesn't apply to Islamist extremists, who believe they're commanded by God to kill themselves in order to kill you. There's no negotiating with someone who believes they're acting on the divine order from God. People like that are inherently unreasonable.
>I don't believe Iran would nuke Israel
Believes like "oh, I don't think those Islamist extremist would kill themselves just to murder us" are a part of the reason why America got 9/11. What a stupid and naive assumption, clearly shown over and over again to not hold.

>>507664966 (OP)
>Just let them build their nuclear weapons
>they will not use it
if only magical holocaust missiles were real
mushroom clouds are a hollywood explosion effect from nitroglycerin and dynamite, nuclear weapons do not exist and have never been 'live tested' since the advent of high-fidelity civilian cameras

>>507664966 (OP)
Pakistan and India (basically one step up from monkeys) have had nukes my entire life. Also Russia and China. Having a nuke is a defensive measure for Iran, they’re just as likely to use it as anybody else who has it.

>>507669497
South Asian muslims are some of the most religiously propagandised and zealots among the whole lot. Iran, a Shia nation and an old civilization is much more rational & reasonable than the lot.

>>507667083
Hmmm yes interesting correct me if I'm wrong my good man but isn't that basically exactly what happened when we put Saddam hussein into power over any sort of free elections and then took him out when it was convenient and also stayed there for 20 years sucking up $$$ trillions from the tax payer??? Hmmm HMMMz isn't Iran the middle easts largest producer of oil? (I looked it up) How come I haven't heard one fucking word about this hmmm HMMMMM

>>507669539
Yep. Never talk about things in the framework the media and government gives. When will people learn

>>507669539
based

>>507669492
>ISIS are death cultists. Iranian Shiites nowhere near. They are the tamest Muslims in the entire region
IRGC is absolutely fucking extremist, you absolute buffoon. Read up how they gained power in the first place. Listen to their own fucking words. Saudi Arabia is "tame" muslims. Iran is not. Again, them not being allowed to have nukes is nonnegotiable.

>>507669497
Yes they are faggot.

>>507669539
>It is another one of those oil wars.
It's necessary to clear Iran for Greater Israel. This will be like Ukraine and Gaza. The population will be liquidated.

>>507669539
>You're a retard if you think it has anything to do with nukes. It is another one of those oil wars.
No. United States middle eastern policy is all about protecting Israel. It has never been about oil. Read this thread:
>>507377724

>>507664966 (OP)
This is boring and the rants of denial aren't ever going to change a thing. Iran has made threats, shot missiles at Israel, and has funded terrorism against Israel for years. Israel is miles way from Iran. They aren't Iran's business. Iran funded Hamas. Israel has come to settle matters.

Iran doesn't deserve to live if they think that it's ok to kill a few Israelis every time they want some media attention. The best ending for this is if a few outraged Iranians, who are fed up with worthless, homosexual Islam and their idiot Mullahs, capture the leaders and publicly burn them alive.

The rest of us should never get this angry, but Iran IS the pinnacle of cowardly homosexuals who base their existence on using their people as human shields. They won't be missed.

What Trump is doing is in line. He's provoking American Mullahs and they deserve the same fate by fire. Now.... is everyone going to wuss out on their Muslim homosexuals and move on to their Communist homosexuals? I think they are!

>>507664966 (OP)
You really want to let a bunch of rag heads be responsible for nuclear weapons? Nothing good would ever come of that.

>>507664966 (OP)
I'm pretty sure they already have shitty nukes.
Like, you don't need anything fancy to get critical mass.
Sure if you want something fancy that you can actually put on a ICBM warhead, you need to get creative, cheat the critical mass by using highly syncronized pressure waves from conventional explosives, other fissile materials like plutonium you can only breed in reactors etc.
But if you just want big boom for the sake of big boom, all you need to do is create two large half-spheres of enriched uranium and slap 'em together.
And unironically even some shit-tier terrorist organization like ISIS could probably manage that if you give them two decades and $100 million in funding, so If Iran doesn't have enough enriched uranium even now when Bibi said they've been trying to build a bomb for the last 3 decades that'd be really fuckin pathetic.

So honestly If I was Iran, Id have done a shitty bomb test years ago and just claim its the real deal.
All the other nations could see the test on their Seismographs and can only conclude "yup, I ain't no clue what they got or how it works, but they sure got somthin that makes a boom with nuke-like amounts of TNT-equivalent", I don't think anyone would do the gamble and try to call the bluff that their nuke tech sucks dick and doesn't actually fit on an ICBM warhead.

>>507665777
You mean like Israel who stole the tech from the US.

>>507669666
>America got 9/11
You are retarded if you still believe, in 2025, that two planes flown by goat herders hit two towers and knocked down three towers. And then 8 countries had to be invaded or destroyed because of that. Actually retarded. Or maybe you were born in the 70s or something and love America so much because you grew up in commie Poland. I bet you voted PiS and believe there is nothing inherently wrong with Jews. Go follow Fox News on X you pseudo-boomer.
>tame
The IRGC is much tamer than for example the Talibans and indeed much less religious than even SA. Hijab laws aren't enforced in the capital for example. But yeah, they'll bomb NYC! And you *still* haven't answered my question: WHY are they chanting "death to America"? The answer is ofc because of thousands of dead Palestinian children; all by US ordnance.

>>507670192
Iran hasn't done a single bad thing except for the Rushdie affair. Kys, kike.

>>507671261
>Iran hasn't done a single bad thing except for the Rushdie affair. Kys, kike.
Israel sunk a US ship (on purpose; the navy knew it), stole uranium, stole secrets, sold secrets, spied the most (this was even said by Fox News in the early 2000s), etc. But shills like >>507670192 will just sweep that under the rug.

>>507664966 (OP)
It's white hegemony. Plain and simple.

>>507671094
You let a rag head have them or are confused where Israel is located.

>>507665744
That's the problem.
Jews would rather they be defenceless so they can bomb them with impunity like lebanon. Or better yet be a puppet state they control like egypt and jordan.

>>507671454
You're probably arguing with DL bots or shills being paid by JIDF. It's true there are a lot of brainwashed golem masses, but they don't post here as much, I think.

Anyways, I want to focus on DL bots. Do you realize how advanced they've gotten? The state department could unleash millions of DL bots, which you could argue with hours thinking it's a real human being. They don't give a fuck about the truth, just changing narrative to suit kike agenda.

>>507671261
The atrocities the current Iranian leadership committed are restricted by their means. They have no ability to kill you, "the great satan", as it stands. But all of that will change if they get their hands on nuclear weapons. And belief that a religious death cultist won't try to kill themselves in order to kill you is one of the reasons why you got 9/11. Don't be a fool, learn from history. They can't be allowed to have nukes.

>>507671797
Yeah no fuck off retard. Israel is the king of atrocities. Weve seen more in 2 years than ever before. 5 wars started in two yearS get the fuck out dumbass.

>>507671797
You sound like a kike or bot.
9/11 was either Mossad or Saudi inside job. Iran had nothing to do with 9/11.

Israel is number 1 human trafficking, illegal organ trade, genocide, and other shenanigans. Iran is a far more rational actor than Pissrael.

Iran literally protected Christians in Syria and fought ISIS. There's even evidence Israel backed or financed ISIS.

ISIS attacked Israel only once, and that was by accident. As soon as it realized what it had done, ISIS apologized profusely to Israel.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-israel-defence-force-apology-attack-unit-golan-heights-defense-minister-moshe-ya-alon-a7700616.html

Israel provides medical aid to wounded ISIS and al Qaeda guerilla fighters:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wounded-syrian-rebels/

In at least one case, it was discovered that an ISIS leader was actually an Israeli jew Mossad agent:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-commander-captured-libya-revealed-mossad-agent/231863/

>>507671181
because thats kinda the situation we've got going on with north korea.
We know they can make something explode that still measures as a goddamn 6.3 earthquake on our seismographs.
We also know they do have rockets that may or may not work, and may or may not be strong enough to carry whatever they have that makes such a big boom across intercontinental distances.
Chances are actually they do not, but is anyone actually gonna call their bluff? Fuck no! Because even if there's a 90% chance its a bluff, those 10% might be one of your major cities getting evaporated, and at least from the invention of nuke-ICBM's till now nobody was crazy enough to make that gamble.

>>507671979
>Le Israel
"Le Israel" sucks America's dick. Iran views Israel as just "a small satan" to America's "big satan", you dumb faggot. People like you are why the death cult of Islam has been allowed to propagate itself and cause countless deaths and suffering all over the globe, including in America and Europe. Because of dumbasses like you, who'd rather believe in conspiracies then in the real world.

>>507672471
so we should nuke everyone in the middle east, got it

>>507671689
You're right. But I don't waste my time though; I just do one thread then I'm out and even if it's a bot the info I post is perhaps read by real people so it's not wasted.
>>507671797
>kill themselves
Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Shiites (and Persians in general) don't do suicide bombings. Ironically many suicide bombings recorded inside Iran were done by Sunni-groups, usually ISIS-affiliated (ISIS was funded by Israel):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suicide_bombings_in_Iran.
>Because of dumbasses like you, who'd rather believe in conspiracies then in the real world.
Is it a conspiracy that Jews have disproportionate control over US media institution? yes or no will suffice

>>507671094
Either on one should have it or everyone. It's that simple. There's no such thing as good side and bad side. People just want to protect their countries from crazies, and Israel has proven over and over that they are the craziest ones wanting to be better than anyone else.

>>507670942
Iran is thousands of miles away from US. Yet, Mossadegh was couped. Puppet Shah was installed. Saddam was militarised against Iran. Shia proxies of Iran work for specific geopolitical goals of Iran in the region, like all big powers including the US use proxies. Their proxies aren't international Islamists like Sunni ISIS, which by the way was a CIA creation to remove Assad, so that Syria is out of the way of Israel, and this Iran war could happen. Iran is a normal country.
Touch grass.

>>507672471
Khatami was close to becoming allies with America near the end of Clinton's presidency, but Israel and its lobby got in the way. Stfu, retard.

Iran would have been interested in becoming America's ally if it stopped sucking Jew dick and financing Sunni radicals.

>>507672471
You aren't a real person. Too fucking stupid. Likely a bot.

>>507672148
>Iran had nothing to do with 9/11.
The same extremist beliefs that drove those terrorists to murder your compatriots guide the leadership of Iran. This discussion isn't about whether Israel is good. Israel, similarly to other countries like North Korea that have committed crimes against humanity, is a materialist nation. One that you can count on to preserve their material interests, meaning that they aren't willing to initiate nuclear holocaust because they believe their God told them to. But that's not the case with Islamic extremism. You can count on the fact that Kim Jong Un won't nuke you, because he doesn't wont to die in retaliation. Nuclear deterrence works. But you can't count on that with literal death cultists. Again, they must not be allowed to have nukes.

>>507671189
Yes, Israel are masters in persuasion.
It's not a coincidence that they are so invested in media and communication.

>>507673144
I WANT them to have them, and I WANT them to use them.

>>507671242
Never forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M26-B44qQIs ( BBC Reported Building 7 Collapse 20 Minutes Before It Fell )

>>507673216
>Yes, Israel are masters in persuasion.
subversion, not persuasion
they lie, cheat and steal.

>>507673277
Just kill yourself, then. Way easier, and the effect for you will be the same.

>>507664966 (OP)
They are hoping Iran has a puppet in charge by then

>>507673341
No it won't. Stop fear mongering, you filthy kike.

>>507673144
Stfu, kike or bot.
I already gave evidence that Iran is far more of a rational actor than Pissrael. There is no debate here.
ISIS was literally financed by Israel.

>>507664966 (OP)
Because Iran having a nuke directly interferes with Israel's ability to bully, attack and annexx land from its neighbours.

>>507673432
What's the matter? You want to die so bad, then put your money where your mouth is.
>>507673508
>Lost and spergs out in retaliation
Kek

>>507673508
>ISIS was literally financed by Israel.
and still is

>>507673668
1. Iran protected Christians in Syria. Ever since Assad was ousted, their lives have gotten harder.

2. Israel financed and armed ISIS and Al-Qaeda and Al-Nusra.

3. Israel is #1 in human trafficking and organ trade.

Iran hasn't done a single wrong thing except Rushdie affair. Every single one of Iran's geopolitical actions can be framed based on these two factors: 1) warding Sunni radicalism, and 2) destroying Israel.

Israel should be destroyed.

>>507673668
>What's the matter? You want to die so bad, then put your money where your mouth is.
You believe two planes hit the twin towers and a third tower collapse a couple hundred yards away because of that. You are barely sentient. And *still* haven't answered the simple question: why does Iran chant "death to America"? Why not "death to Spain"?

>>507673318
It's ridiculous.
>>507674009
>collapse
*collapsed

>In some cases, the Israelis visited locations not known to the public -- areas without street addresses, for example, or DEA offices not identified as such -- leading authorities to suspect that information had been gathered from prior surveillance or perhaps electronically, from credit cards and other sources. One Israeli was discovered holding banking receipts for substantial sums of money, close to $180,000 in withdrawals and deposits over a two-month period. A number of the Israelis resided for a period of time in Hollywood, Fla. -- the small city where Mohammed Atta and three terrorist comrades lived for a time before Sept. 11.

>In the wake of the NCIX bulletin, federal officials raised several other red flags, including an Air Force alert, a Federal Protective Services alert, an Office of National Drug Control Policy security alert and a request that the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) investigate a specific case. Officials began dealing more aggressively with the "art students." According to one account, some 140 Israeli nationals were detained or arrested between March 2001 and Sept. 11, 2001. Many of them were deported. According to the INS, the deportations resulted from violations of student visas that forbade the Israelis from working in the United States. (In fact, Salon has established that none of the Israelis were enrolled in the art school most of them claimed to be attending; the other college they claimed to be enrolled in does not exist.) After the Sept. 11 attacks, many more young Israelis -- 60, according to one AP dispatch and other reports -- were detained and deported.

>https://www.salon.com/2002/05/07/students/
>https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-netanyahu-says-no-question-saddam-working-on-nuclear-weapons/4927483
I have not been this embarrassed to be an american since the passage of the patriot act. The propaganda and bottling right now is off the chart on almost every site.

>>507673923
>Israel, Israel, Israel
I don't see how that makes the case for Iran, which is run by extremist Islamist with a wish to eradicate America (their words, not mine), to be given nukes.
>>507674009
America doesn't exist, retard. You've been duped. God, you're so stupid.

Israel (is) was under attack by Iranian backed Hamas. Iran is not peace loving neutered muslims like their neighbors.

>>507673668
>put your money where your mouth is.
how would I even do that?

>>507674267
>America doesn't exist, retard. You've been duped.
Breaking down, bot?
*How did two planes bring down three buildings (the one not hit hundred of yards away from the others)?
*Why are Iranian chanting "death to America" and not "death to Spain"?
Questions you can't answer.

>>507674512
How can there be planes in America, when there's no such thing as America? Are you stupid? I'm genuinely asking.

>>507674301
And why is that America's problem?

>>507664966 (OP)
i dont understand either. pakistan has one. i guess israel don't like it as theres a slim chance it could be used in them when they go full land-grab mode for greater israel

>>507674791
I accept your concession.

>>507664966 (OP)
they can. they just got to push a bit harder.

>>507664966 (OP)
Because they aren’t real

BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A NUKE IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ISRAEL TO STEAL THEIR OIL

>>507677172
It's never been about oil. Read:
>>507377724

>>507664966 (OP)

>>507664966 (OP)
Pakistan and South Africa having it, freaks me out more than Iran.

>>507672771
That's another soup of private agendas. Our role was not honorable but probably based on England hanging on to their colonial territories no matter the consequences.