Realistically after this war ends, no matter how it ends, will there be any demographic of average Americans who still supports Israel? It seems like they're burned bridges with literally every political coalition they've built in America since 1949. I get that Kiked politicians will always support Israel but at least the average person was sympathetic to Israel until 10 years ago

>cenk with a non retarded take

something something broken clock

>>507683017
Yeah, this is a weird timeline. I hate that brown nigger but dang. Maybe he will have suicide by shot back of head?

Boomers will go to the grave endorsing Israel

Leftists opposing and naming the jew was not on my Bingo card for this timeline. Clown world hasn't been all nasty surprises.

>>507683017
Ana knocked some sense into him

>>507682451 (OP)
MIGA wants to play golf. MAGA wants to play golf with Netanyahu's mouse skull. This will end well.

>>507683949
More like fucked some sense into him

>>507684097
This.

>>507683687
Leftists always have. You're thinking of liberals. I know, distinction without a difference, etc. etc.

>>507684166
I doubt she would touch Cenk, but who knows. Maybe she gave him a handy to get on the program initially

>>507682451 (OP)
Then when Israel is out of the picture we can see that the jews still here will keep pushing leftism and you won't do shit

Most wealthy kikes don't care about Israel retard
You are just hurting the one group of them that is right wing
You achieve nothing

Fucking retards holy shit

>>507683687
Wasn't that big of a shock. Only thing leftists love more than jews is smelly brown people, so once the jews started blowing them up by the bushel their allegiance faded fast.

>>507682451 (OP)
I never thought id see the day crnm made logical sense to me. What the fuck is going on?

>>507684435
>If we can't fix all the problems instantly we shouldn't even try at all!

Right wing kikes die first because they pose an immediate threat, left wing kikes can die later as that requires a full blown purge.

>>507684435
Don't waste your time trying to talk sense into them. Nuance isn't the strong suite of extremists. I adopted the superior position of antisemitic zionism a long time ago.

>>507683687
They technically frame it as Israel and not all jews. They are one and the same but it's how talking heads get around it.

>>507682451 (OP)
I would support the destruction of Israel which is sort of the same thing.

>>507682451 (OP)
>will there be any demographic who still supports Israel?
They're called "Christians". They will never stop supporting their masters

>>507682451 (OP)
Isn’t he gay?

>>507682451 (OP)
There will also be christkek boomers who think Jews in Israel gets them closer to Jesus, even though he'd probably spit on them for how they treat the rest of God's children.

>>507683017
he got fired from a brief stint at msnbc for criticizing the obama administration in substantive ways iirc

Yes, I support Israel. Why do I support Israel? I support white nationalism, and I consider Israel to be white nationalist. I also think that Israel causes Western Jews to become white nationalist. Furthermore, I think that there are collective racial consciousnesses in this world, and I think it's obvious that us as whites share most of our consciousness with jews. More importantly, the entire western world is being taken over by foreign consciousnesses, Hispanics, blacks, muslims, indians, that are all allied against us because of their hatred of white people and Europe. Those same people are the most fervent opponents of Israel. Why do they hate Israel? Because it is white. It is European. It is conservative. It is at war with browns, who are Asian, who are Muslim, who are them. It is the same reason why the Black Panthers sided with Vietcong in the 1960s. The darkskin consciousness, which far outnumbers us, sees itself in a war against us. It has taken control of all of our cities in a few decades. It is possible that progressive jews were instrumental in that process, but we have to ask were the jews the user or the tool of that process? New York City and London and Paris have not become more friendly to Jews with their new inhabitants. Jews are scared to live in New York and have their kids go to school with the type of people that inhabit New York now. The darkskin racial tide is causing the entire West to turn pro Palestinian virtually overnight, especially with the Muslim thrust into Europe. None of this bodes well for Israel or for whites. The same darkskin liberal spirit is what is forcing us to war against Russia, another bastion of white militarism.

>>507682451 (OP)
When has it ever mattered what average Americans support? They control all their "respresentatives".

Trump supporters are humiliating themselves defending Trump on this

>>507682451 (OP)
Plenty are laughing at Iran for the attacks, but how can people not mock Israel when they're reliant on US jets, need US to defend against missiles, and can't even take out Iran themselves?
It's insane the amount of propaganda we've been fed about Israel's military supremacy.

He's right

>>507682451 (OP)
Evangelical boomers.

>>507684540
This is correct. In the new moral hierarchy, or victim hierarchy, Palestinians are higher than Jews. That is why the same ultra progressive woke tards that called us all Nazis are now calling Israel Nazi. They do not give a single crap about Xinjiang, or Armenia, because those are brown people genociding other brown people. For them Israel and Palestine is a white people genociding brown people thing which is why they side with the brown people. If we went to war with Iran or China, these people would side with Iran or China due to color, just like they sided with Vietcong in the 1960s.

On the progressive race hierarchy, the darker you are, the higher up you are. Therefore palestinians are better than jews, and jews are better than white people.

>>507682451 (OP)
>will there be any demographic of average Americans who still supports Israel?
Globaly, there's 2.8 billion Christians and 1.4 billion Catholics. So yes. There's still going to be groups that still support Israel and the kikes.

>Israel gets glassed
>the survivors move to America
>Trump tries to set them up on settlements in Wyoming, but they demand to be settled in New York
>by the end of the year most of the northeastern seaboard is now New Israel
>Rhode Island has been walled off and is now an open air prison where all non-jews are kept
>Delaware has had so much white phosphorous dumped on it that it has become an uninhabitable wasteland
>Bibi insists that the missile strikes on Maine will not stop until Augusta dismantles its nuclear program
>and after all that there's still a line of boomers and religious fundamentalists forming a living wall of support around New Israel, while the media calls everyone antisemites

What a time to be alive.

>>507684711
dumbass christkike detected

He's correct

>>507685420
Exactly. Well put

>>507685758
Incorrect. I don't follow jewish desert religions. I'm a stoic deist

>>507683687
Historically the average leftist have always sided with Palestine and recognized Israel as modern day colonialists it's just the only people that are vocal about their plight are people with zero political sway and those that have sway toed the line.

Fuck Zionism

>years of right wing victories against the left have been undone by Trump's commitment to Zionism
Don't say we didn't warn you

>>507682451 (OP)
We need a third position and jews are gonna make that happen with their hubris

Cenk w

>>507686849
>>years of right wing victories against the left
Legitimately what the fuck are you talking about?

>>507687498
There has been an obvious vibe shift against the most toxic parts of leftist policies. It must count for something even though all our lives are all measurably worse than they were before 2016

Cenk w.

>>507687684
What you're talking about is a serious illness getting so bad that the patient who has hitherto ignored it is now seriously talking about seeing a doctor. He still has the illness and it's still getting worse.

>>507685004
Support for Israel among Christians under 45 has cratered in the last 30 years and shows no signs of going anywhere but down.

One generation, that's all they really bought with 400 years of sacrifice and conspiracy. One generation.

>>507682451 (OP)
The fucking rat faced kike threatened to nuke our country if we didnt help them. I need EVERY single American to remember that. When kikes back is against the wall it threatens to take us all with it. They're fucking cowards and scum of the earth. God I hope Israel burns in nuclear fire.

>>507685420
Basically every Golem story ends with the Golem
A) consciously rebelling
B) accidentally killing his master in confusion over the specifics of a command

>>507685013
Can you not see that the Jews are doing the same to America that they've done to Palestine?
They intend to reduce you to a powerless minority in your own land, like they've done to the Palestinians, and they're using the same methods - mass immigration, legalized discrimination (dei), and extralegal violence (minority crime)

>>507682451 (OP)
Cenk, Trump doesn't need MAGA now. They're in the driver's seat for the next 3.5 years. MAGA was always jews. They can do whatever they want and in 2028 they'll just ask you "what are you going to do? Vote Democrat?" And the dumbfuck boomers and Bud Light shotgunning cretins will clap like seal for whatever kike puppet the Republicans put up next.

>>507683343
We all hate Israel, it’s ok to agree on that demonic blight on god’s green earth

>>507685737
Atheists vote overwhelmingly in lockstep with jews and white Christians vote the furthest from them.

>>507684435
The majority of kikes are zioniggers.
The majority.

>>507683343
Don't be confused when the beast folk attack your enemies from time to time.
Animals can bite bad people, they don't always have to bite good people.

>>507685753
Then a painter was born in canada

>>507682451 (OP)
I would, if they get rid of the Likud and ban them forever

>>507688153
How many boomers will even be alive in 2028? The youngest will be well into their 60s and they're not too healthy.

>>507688452
I think barely any. There will probably be another scamdemic between now and then.

A movement that started with Ron Paul and non-interventionism that spent the past 17 years calling Republicans neocons, Israel Firsters, cuckservatives and occasionally just Jews so that isn't a hot take.

>>507688123
>>507688105
You guys are severely underestimating the severity of the threat to white people. Jews are just one out of a cornucopia of ethnic groups around the world that would be happy to enslave the white race. Think of the great empires of the Arabs and Indians. Now look at what is happening to the former British Empire. It is being turned into a colony for pakis and jeets. The problem with you guys' mindset is it absolves all nonwhites OTHER than jews of any agency. You see the only serious threat to us as being jews. Meanwhile the Mughal Empire is basically being recreated in England right now. Brownies outnumber us 10 to 1, are strong and violent, and have a pathological hatred of us.

>>507688123
Ten whites with rifles can literally defeat hundreds of brownoids.

Meanwhile Arabs have consistently lost more and more battles against forces they outnumbered for five centuries running.

Israel is able to pummel the beastfolk because they suck at war while Israel is getting infinite money from the global empire.
There's no SuperAmerica 1000 times the size of America that's going to funnel infinite money into America. Once USA cracks, the whole global system falls apart with it, and good riddance.

Good post

>>507685004
The evangelicals want to move every jew on earth to Israel and all the jews die in the Great War.

>>507688672
The global brown population is inflated literally by a factor of ten from being able to trade with whites and trade with others under the protection of whites using the logistics network of whites. When there aren't enough whites to maintain the global network slavishly, 9/10 of the browns in the world will die screaming in an orgy of starving violence.
They're not strong, people simply aren't fighting back because the system (only kept operable by white participation) restrains and demoralizes them.

Browns cannot make war.
World war two America could conquer modern India, or all of Africa, and could at the very least topple China into ruins before exhausting it's full strength.

Nonwhites cannot fight. They just die until some whites restrain or kill the other whites, almost universally on behalf of jews.

Fuck Zionism

>>507684435
>Ugh, you retards, don’t you know that to win we have to ally with rich Jews?
Lol nice try Moishe

>>507684945
Not true. Young evangelicals do not support Israel. It’s only boomers

>>507684435
The rich jews rely on the middle jews, they just act like they don't need them because they fucking love blood sacrifice. It makes them feel like gods which is also why they kill or rape their own children.

>>507685013
>I support white nationalism, and I consider Israel to be white nationalist.
you kikes think this fox news tier bullshit will work here? fucking delusional kike

>>507685013
> and I consider Israel to be white nationalist
How fucking retarded can you possibly be?

>>507682451 (OP)
>1pbtid
>Twitter screencap
>eceleb garbage
>67 replies
I hate this place. I never wanted to be here forever....

>>507689323
From Cromwell and the house of red Shields to Medici to the French revolution to the Jesuits to the American civil war to the Russian revolution to the Chinese revolution to the world wars.

400 years of blood sacrifice and conspiracy for ONE generation that held them up and shielded them from all criticism. I hope it was worth it.

>>507685013
Jews are deathly afraid of white nationalism and embarked on the program of browning white countries specifically to destroy their racial enemy, the Aryan. Find me a Jew who supports white nationalism. It’s not a thing. You’re either a Jew or a fucking retard.

Israel won't need anybody if they get the Queen piece of the Middle East.

>>507686480
Both sides hate Israel. The problem has always been that they fear the normies will vote them out of power if they vocalize their distaste. Jews historically get collectively punished by God every 80 years so we are about to witness a happening.

>>507689575
Douglas Murray.

Massive Zionist, also budding white nationalist.

Jews are in a tough situation because the Islamification of Europe and the browning of America means both Europe and America are rapidly turning anti semitic.

Ben Shapiro made a little vid about how LoTR represents the West or something, I didn't bother to watch it.

The point is if Hitler was around today he wouldn't even see Jews. He would see literal hordes of gloating Arabs torturing Europe to death. In fact there is good reason to believe that his childhood in Austria Hungary is why he was so anti semitic. The fact is while medieval Europeans had a big problem with Jews and gypsies, the British and French have been locked in a collossal struggle with Africa and India and China for hundreds of years. And the problem with your ideas is that they blind you. Right now you're like "Oh wow the West is turning antisemitic!" Well that isn't because the West is turning pro white. In fact what you'll find in the West is that the more anti semitic someone is, the more anti white they are. All of these people trying to shred up Zionism right now aren't wignats. When Cenk Uyghur isn't shredding zionism, he's shredding racism (that means white people). There is a war against white people and western civilization and Israel and the jews are the current target.

>CENK UYGHUR ISNT TARGETING ISRAEL BECAUSE HE LIKES WHITE PEOPLE
>PEOPLE IN THE STREETS OF LONDON ARENT WAVING PALESTINIAN FLAGS BECAUSE THEY LIKE WHITE PEOPLE

>>507682451 (OP)
>any demographic of average Americans who still supports Israel?

Before WW1 the majority of Americans were against entering the war.
Due to Germany's policy of unrestricted submarine warfare (sinking of the Lusitania, which was suspected of carrying munitions for Britain) and the Zimmermann Telegram (which proposed a Mexican-German alliance against the US) Americans turned anti-Germany.

Before WW2, the majority of Americans were against entering the war.
The attack on Pearl Harbor naval base in Hawaii resulted in significant damage and casualties, prompting the U.S. to declare war on Japan. FDR wanted to cut Japan's oil imports to 90% of its needs. Following this, Germany and Italy, Japan's allies, declared war on the United States, leading to America's full-scale involvement.

Initially, support for U.S. entry into the Korean War was high (81%), with Gallup polls showing strong approval. However, as the war dragged on, public opinion became more divided, and protests against the war began to emerge. At five months, about two-thirds wanted the US to pull troops out and about fifty percent thought President Truman made a mistake entering the war.

>>507690080
we don't believe you're human. You can be quiet and die now.

HEY JEW
DON'T MAKE IT BAD
JUST TAKE A SAD SONG
AND MAKE IT BETTER
REMEMEBER
TO GET UNDER THEIR SKIN
THEN YOU'LL BEGIN
TO MAKE IT BEEEEETER

NA NA NA NANANA NA
NANA NA NA

HEY JEW

>>507688452
Plenty. And still enough to matter. You're about 15-20 years away from boomers being dead.

>>507690080
Hey, just a question, how do you reconcile all this bullshit with the indisputable fact that Israel advocates for shitskins, including Muslims, to come to the west by the millions? And the call anyone who doesn't want diversity an evil Nazi before using lawfare to shut them down?

>>507682451 (OP)
Prople will believe whatever their TV (Talmud Vision) tells them to

>>507682451 (OP)
The same people you see simping for Pissrael right now will eternally suck their dick and be their puppet

>>507683017
>>507685010
Yeah I don't think he's actually that bad, historically he's been more hit and miss than outright retarded. But he got brainwormed by the Trump/covid/BLM psyops of recent times like most leftys. I think he might be starting to recover.

>>507682451 (OP)
Intentionally burning bridges at decisive moments is conqueror behavior. This, however, seems like a blunder.

>>507682451 (OP)
Why do we need to get involved anyway?
Iran's a paper tiger that Israel can clearly handle on their own.

>>507690080
Europe wouldn't have a notable amount of Arab refugees if your country would stop funding proxy wars in that region.
>no war = no refugees
omg rocket science

This nonsense I swear to god.

>>507688185
>SEE THE ATHEISTS ARE THE BAD GUYS
You're not escaping the ovens this time schlomo.

>>507682451 (OP)
The kike curse is over, now we need to be vigilant for the next thing to come and rout those with ties with Israel and mossad. they will cry persecution but they will get to keep their lives. we will not make the same mistake as the german retard. we will curse shalom with irrelevancy.

>>507691022
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Cenk detected Trump's rabid zionism and predicted that he would one day support an invasion of Iran.

>>507683017
Cenk is actually pretty ideologically consistent despite being a total brown homo whose policies I don't want to implement. I have some respect for him.

Anyone with actual conviction and honesty gets fucking annoyed with the jews and their double standards.

>>507682451 (OP)
I don't even think they have that strong a grasp on American jews. Haredi in the new york ghettos give little shit about Israel, half of the jews under the age of 30 are literally dating outside their race. I think Zionist jews are mostly very old. I think the Zionist lobby has ten years at best before it starts to unravel.

test

>>507690827
I am not going to say that the Jews are great friends of white people. But I will say I would rather live in a Jewish country than an Arab country (close), a Paki country (pretty bad), or a nig country (what we have). Jews have been massive proponents of multiculturalism, but so have anglos and celts. What do you think happened to all the jews in brooklyn, london, paris, south africa? Well their golem doesn't like them. And the fact is the same story can be told of the white liberals of those same cities. The white liberals of portland. What about the anglo celtic abolitionists of the 19th century? They sure loved niggers, considering they didnt have to live with them. Now all of their towns are negrofied slums. Diplomacy is a constantly changing game. I expect many jews are getting spooked that the muttification of the west has created this inverted racial hisrarchy where whites are on the bottom. As I said before, in this new progressive hierarchy, muslims are better than jews, and jews are better than whites. It is still the opposite of the nazi hierarchy. You are allying with people you consider to be literal subhuman ape golems. What we are seeing is the MIGA crowd are turning against third world immigration because they realize the browner the west becomes, the more antisemitic it becomes. That is progress.

>>507691477
>test
VPN is working Moshe

>>507691655
I'm not using a vpn, I just can't make any threads

>>507682451 (OP)
Israel will never fall. You are goyim, do not forget. With Palantir, all dissent will be cracked down. We will help Israel beat the goyim into submission. Feeling POWERFUL

>>507690080
Go find a bomb crater to die in, rat kike.

>>507683687
They aren't naming the jew. They think israelis are racist White colonists.

Let's gooo

>>507683017

After over a decade of fighting against them you kind of start to see each other as people. Cenk has a lot of disagreeable opinions and used to just be the dumbest fucker imaginable but he has come a long way. TYT and modern day RW would probably be able to have a much better conversation nowadays since they have so much common ground. You grow up and realize being antagonistic and shutting out those who disagree doesn’t work. Zoomer oriented outlets are still stuck in that antagonistic mode.
Never tie yourself too strongly to one faction or another. THEY are the ones who created labels to group people by beliefs so they could create an “us vs them” mentality. Over time you can find the people you disagreed with actually aren’t all bad and aren’t all idiots all the time. A lot of times you end up on the same side with newer propaganda and bullshit since you’re both part of sides that naturally critiques the gov and usually when some government bs happens the vast majority of people agree it’s bs once they learn about it. Old issues are more difficult questions to figure out. The same people who supported the Iraq war are the same ones who voted for Obama and the same ones who voted for Trump. The stats and margins show that. People can grow and learn from past stupidity. A person whose opinions don’t grow and don’t evolve probably isn’t spouting off their ACTUAL opinions. They are being paid to parrot something they don’t believe in. Those are the people you should strongly distrust.
A leftist 20 year old is not shameful thing
A leftist 80 year old is very shameful thing. Do you know any elderly leftists that are normal? Most people grow and evolve over time and that usually goes towards rationality and more conservative lines of thought.

>>507682451 (OP)
I didn't have agreeing with Chunk on my bingo card for today. But damn. 110 is going to be global next time.

>>507682451 (OP)
kikes know they are cooked once boomers are dead that's why they are so rabid about passing all these antisimetism laws

>>507691925
These guys are hardcore 20 year vet antisemites. They think that if we get rid of all the jews it'll fix everything.

>but what about the 200 million nonwhites in europe?
>what about the 200 million nonwhites in north america?

Oh don't worry about those, they're based. They hate Jews too! Nigga Heil Hitler. I'm sure once the Jews are gone all the shitskins will just disappear.

>>507682451 (OP)
We need to marry Israeli women to Hindu men. Israel needs to be 80% Indian. Let's make it happen bladdy

>>507692468
>>but what about the 200 million nonwhites in europe?
Why can't we deport them now? OH RIGHT, kikes in our governments literally making it a crime to even mention deportation and constantly bringing in more you fucking hooked nosed weasel.

>>507683687
Retard. Left has all that it has thanks to Jews. Each and every of their victories is thank to Jews.
Including the coming one, Trump's invasion of Iran will cause the destruction of the right, and the left will win every election from now on. That will cause the inevitable destruction of what is left of Christendom.

>>507691592
>You are allying with people you consider to be literal subhuman ape golems
That's you, you literally just described yourself; You support your fellow kikes as they ensure every single white country is flooded with shitskins that you wield like a biological weapon. Go advocate for more immigration to the west, Shlomo.

>>507692468
>They think that if we get rid of all the jews it'll fix everything.
There would definitely be less refugees.
>what about the 200 million nonwhites in north america
If you want to meaningfully make your population more white, there are two things that are the most effective
>tighten borders
>have less wars, therefore less refugees
Deporting the existing populace isn't very effective because new immigrants quickly take their place. "omg based ICE" is a distraction tactic to make sure there will continue to be an immigration issue for the next Republican candidate to weaponize. The intent was never to truly do anything about the Mexican border, but a performative action.

Not that you were trying to engage in this in good faith anyway.

>>507692728
Alright, so let me riddle you this, my Aryan stormtrooper. If it's the Jews, then how did they get into power in the first place? Why didn't they execute similar manuevers in Muslim countries where they have been minorities for just as long? Why do their multiculturalism tactics only work on white people? If white people are so wonderful, why do white people collectively, all 500 million of us, constantly fall for jewish tricks? Why were most of the innovations which we see today, like democracy, capitalism, liberalism, feminism, and multiculturalism, pioneered specifically in the great north western european trading empires of the Netherlands and the UK and France and the USA in the last few centuries? Why not in Spain, or Iran, or Russia, or anywhere else the jews are? Why have the most fervent advocates of these ideologies often been ethnic Anglos and Celts ans Frenchmen etc? Why have our cultures, as Americans, Frenchmen, and Englishmen, made it such a staunch point of our national identity that we literally invade countries on the opposite side of the earth, from Japan to Indonesia to India to Germany to Russia to Mexico, in the name of spreading these ideals, which we to this day describe as archetypally our own?

>>507683687
The left were the first to name the jew in the American mainstream

>Free palestine/Fuck zionism

This is why the elites freaked out and threw LGBT and liberals under the bus and started coddling trump christians.

>>507692468
>They think that if we get rid of all the jews it'll fix everything.
If there were no Jews:
There would never be a conversation about transgenderism
There would never be a conversation about homosexuality
There would never be a conversation about mass migration
There would never be a conversation about female promiscuity
There would never be a conversation about depiction of beauty in fiction

Now that those problems are here, even if you get rid of the Jews, they will remain, yes. But also if you don't get rid of the Jews - you will never fix these problems.

>>507692967
I mean this is a sidebar to the MIGA MAGA issue but right now you have a situation all across the west where nonwhites are socially dominant. They accrue this dominance through their criminality and in group preference and general fearsome nature. We do need an immigration moratorium, and we need walls. But the 800,000 jeets that have come to canada this year did not come fleeing a war. They came because they hate us and want to take our shit from us. They also hold stakes in many of our industries, especially our tech industry. There is a global campaign by brown people to destroy the white race. All of them hate us and want us gone. Every single white country is going to devolve into a battle for control between old white people and young brown street hordes.

>>507682451 (OP)
Read the book of revelation and what it says about Israel.

>>507693084
>If it's the Jews, then how did they get into power in the first place?
White people are kind and allowed you into our nations in good faith, you got into positions of power and heavily instituted nepotism over decades. Many white people legitimately cannot comprehend how evil you disgusting rats are and simply don't see it, which is why leftists exist. They're not stupid, they genuinely cannot process the idea of letting someone into your home and being as kind as possible only for them to literally want you raped and murdered.
>Why didn't they execute similar manuevers in Muslim
Because sandniggers aren't kind, they understand that you are parasites because they themselves are disgusting animals.
>why do white people collectively, all 500 million of us, constantly fall for jewish tricks
We don't, it's simply that enough white people refuse to see it, and are so kind they are willing to literally kill and die to protect you fucking parasites from justified extermination.

>>507693084
Individualism is the reason why, with individualism it doesn't matter that a nation nominally belongs to the French or the Germans or the English. Because there isn't a proper group consciousness within dominant groups of said individualistic societies. And btw, they don't need to be all of it, they just need to be a key group, say normally in USA it would be 60-40 power dynamic between the right and the left, as long as Jews have influence that exceeds 10%, they tip the scales.
Speaking of Russia, communism happened in Russia because of Jews, and when Jews left the nation, communism collapsed.
Not like Jews are pro-left btw, they are in fact extremely pro-right, look at Israel, it's the most right wing nation on earth. They just know the left got everything wrong, and are using left-wing sentiments to destroy the Christendom.

>>507693230
There are already doxrns of millions of browns in Europe. Citizens

>>507693726
So if it's these kindly white men then how come its coincident with the white men that conquered almost the entire known world, foisted their system on everyone, and then dissolved into a bubble bath of luxuriant post imperial hedonism? The Jews did not conquer the West through the kindly Swedes and Irish. They used a platinum combination of Britain, France, Russia, and the United States, while murdering hundreds of millions of people in epic wars that spanned the globe. So you're saying the Brits, who had a Jewish prime minister at around the same time they were trying to domineer a subcontinent 10x their own size, were just kindly innocent naive people who the evil jews hoodwinked?

>>507694168
I already said - "Now that those problems are here, even if you get rid of the Jews, they will remain, yes. But also if you don't get rid of the Jews - you will never fix these problems."

Also, if you still think in categories of Citizens vs Illegals, it's time to wake up.

>>507693084
>>507693084
nta, but I'll bite
>If it's the Jews, then how did they get into power in the first place?
They had a clear cut vision of family and an enemy, while like the Germans being academically intelligent. Americans were never as united as Jews were post WWII.
>Why didn't they execute similar manuevers in Muslim countries
The United States was one of the few that would let them in, borders were much stricter in the 1940s, and I don't need to explain the tension between Islam and Judaism.
>Why do their multiculturalism tactics only work on white people?
>why do white people collectively, all 500 million of us, constantly fall for jewish tricks
The American Dream (shared between America and Europe) puts profit above your own people or neighborhood, and is very easy to weaponize. "Work smarter, not harder", and America being quite embed to the culture surrounding slave labor. What happened is instead of blacks being the slaves, the low economic class took their place.
>Why were most of the innovations which we see today[...]pioneered specifically in the great north western european trading empires
Brain drain from other countries, political sabotage and assassinations to competitors, transcontinental travel being viable commercially, population size, and being more politically stable than their competition.

The Jews fall into this dynamic just because of their positional advantage, but the systems were not of their creation. It's not specific to Jews, chase material wealth and culture will inevitably blur. The CEO of Microsoft is an Indian, but it's the same thing.

>>507694265
>who had a Jewish prime minister at around the same time they were trying to domineer a subcontinent 10x their own size
It's amazing how you acknowledge they already completely infested the government and tried to use it as an example of them not being in control; They had different goals at different times, retard.

>>507693736
I dont know about jews because I never studied the conspiracy theories etc. but I do know about the west. And I would say that in the west we have a super porous individualist government. We are very similar to the late Romans. They had germanic generals and germanic mercenary armies. I read recently that dna analysis of rome showed the latin population had been replaced by eastern mediterraneans due to imperial flows. I also read that the romans spurned a concept of identity in favor of a universal roman citizenship. They also spurned their own gods. That resulted in everyone from russians to germans to turks to greeks calling themselves roman over the next millennia. Anyway our individualist system is open to exploitation by jews, but also by arabs, chinks, and indians. Many of our tech companies are run by indians. Chinese have thoroughly infiltrated our university system. And now I believe we are witnessing jews get supplanted by arabs as the big media money. I think the arabs are putting huge social media money into the west and that is why the west is turning anti zionist. The jews still control the old tv networks but i think the arabs are pumping money into the social media. Of course like I said much of the social media is run by indians and with tiktok china. So basically jews are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of foreign groups infiltrating the west.

>>507685013
You support Israel because you're a Jew lmao

>>507694724
>nyway our individualist system is open to exploitation by jews, but also by arabs, chinks, and indians.
Yes, and it is being exploited by all.
Jews are using the last of their waning power in USA to secure the future of Israel by getting rid of its last competitor in Middle East.
All these other groups are gaining power in the western world, but they are late to the game.

>>507690783
Anon the youngest boomer will be in their mid sixties. The oldest therefore will be in their late seventies.
They're also all quintuple vaxxed and full of lead particles.

>>507694461
In this case you agree with me which is that the weak point is liberalism and the jews just happened to take advantage of it. And so does everyone else, from indian h1bs to saudi princes to chinese tik tok spies. Our system is not a nation, we have no borders, we have no identity, we let anyone do anything here. It will be a wonder if we dont get nuked from within by some free agent. But i dont know how we are supposed to believe jews are the END ALL AND BE ALL of anti whiteness. Look at china with tik tok. Look at the islamification of europe and the big arab oil money. Look at the indian dominance of big tech. My problem with anti semites is they are just trading a jewish master for a muslim master, which is a lot bigger and wealthier and more dangerous.

>>507691167
Atheists are jews and atheists have never and will never win a war.

>>507695006
Haha you get it armenia. The jews know that the qatari oil money and brownification is going to flip the west pro palestine any moment now, so they are trying to zerg rush iran before that happens. But once that happens I am sure Armenia will also be consigned to the dust bin of history. I noticed this trend first when azerbaijan took nagorno karabakh. I noticed there was no public outcry about it and I knew that azerbaijan must have the backing of the big muslim oil money. Do you expect to be subjugated? Assuming you really are armenian

>>507684435
>Then when Israel is out of the picture we can see that the jews still here will keep pushing leftism and you won't do shit
Don't bother trying to talk sense into these people. Most of them unironically follow a Jewish offshoot religion. Their antisemitism is a larp that they use to distract themselves from terminal boredom, and to make edgy posts online.

>>507683017
It's what happens when you actually stay true to a set of beliefs instead of just vomiting out whatever your overlords demand of you. There's some respectable lefties out there that stay true. Same problem on the right.

>>507684435
This site is wall to wall sand niggers these days
On Twitter it’s easier to track because you’ll have accounts named MagaAmericaFirst that started out as MahmoudTarif from Pakistan but changed tac and blew up later
Here it’s just a bunch of rotating funhouse mirrors with arabs patting each other on the hairy back and screaming at everyone else that we need more Pakistanis in the west to be based and anyone who disagrees is mossad

>>507695335
Depending on how this entire thing in the western world, goes every reasonable Armenian will leave this country, mostly to Russia. Retards will go to Europe, which awaits the same fate.
Weak countries cannot exist, that is a rule that will never change. Azerbaijan is irrelevant, it's Turkey, Azris will be absorbed into the Turkey themselves.

>>507695139
jews spent 400 years engineering their power structure throughout the West with endless murder, bribery, and sacrifice. They've engineered dozens of wars and poisoned the blood of millions while using their built up influence to control the media and governments so as to expose all whites to non stop demoralization and propaganda.

Without jews in place, whites simply annihilate brownoids effortlessly.

If every jew on earth disappeared, the brown population of this planet would decrease by 90% in ten years.

>>507694724
>media turning anti-zionist
Might have something to do with Twitter being owned by Elon, who has personal beef with Sam Altman, a Jew, and got caught rigging the service to push antisemetic sentiment. I suspect they were both fighting over the 500 billion government grant that went to Altman, and Elon never recovered.

I think in terms of public sentiment, it's more about stars accidentally aligning.
>American political left cares about moral optics (largely just performative) to distinguish themselves from Republicans
>Owner of Twitter being actively antisemitic
>Minorities in the USA try to find solidarity with oppressed nations as they struggle in the MAGA culture.
>Netenyahu getting cocky and pushing way too far
>Americans are becoming more broke and are starting to ask where their tax dollars are going, if not for their medical bills.
Maybe there is some Middle East shilling, but I'm not sure there's any material evidence there.

>>507695514
jews sent all the Arabs to Europe.

>>507685013
medication time

>>507695667
What is turkey? I had thought it would be the gulf arabs with their big media influence and oil money. Turkey has a big population, but i never thought they had any international influence. I know they dammed up the rivers and caused iraq to starve. Do they have any other sources of wealth or power?

>>507682451 (OP)
>Reddit, all normy internet and 4chan are all united against Jews and Neocons pushing for Iran war

Absolutely BASED.

>>507695816
Turkey is the regional power, when i said it's Turkey i meant in relation to my region, Caucasus. They're the one who enabled azeri victory in the last war. They're not a global power no.

>>507685013
Good post. Melanie Phillips has a very well argued new book out on this theme, the shared civilization&destiny of Jews and Christians(whites).

https://www.amazon.com/Builders-Stone-Christians-Built-West/dp/B0DT15VDW6

>>507685013
You will never be white, schlomo.

>>507683017
Yeah but fuck you he's right here ya fag

>>507695730
Hah well I know for sure whatever you are you aren't american, because as any american knows MAGA is the minority which is struggling against nonwhite culture which completely rules our cities! As for arab oil money, it just makes sense. The conditions for a caliphate are there because europe has been broken by muslim immigration and america by mexicans and blacks. If israel is eliminated all pieces are in place for a muslim superpower. In fact it need not be eliminated, just stopped from going around destroying muslims constantly.

i dont often agree with cenk but when i do it hits hard

when you`re right you`re right, even when you`re left

He's right .

>>507695139
>Our system is not a nation, we have no borders, we have no identity
America's best bet is Classism, the only way you can have a sufficiently coherent identity that scares the billionaires pulling the strings. While I respect the push to lock down borders, I do not think Trump is the one to do it, since the Republican party needs the same boogeyman for the next election, one that Blue will 100% win otherwise. Hence the focus on short term deportations (shock and awe) and not proper border control (the wall is still a meme).

> Look at the islamification of europe
To be fair, that is a direct consequence of Israeli instigated wars and lax European immigration policy, not so much a conscious decision by Arabs. That being said, yeah don't operate under the illusion that "defeating the jews" means the political dynamic will notably change, the American Dream is inherently globalist.

That's honestly genius to say they can't destroy it themselves. Like North Korea put their shit underground. You need American bunker busters for that shit. Or MOAB.

>>507682451 (OP)
Boomers who are on their death bed. Even Gen X doesn't care. Millennials were the first generation that really started to hate Jews again. At first it was just the rightwing but later also the leftwing. Expect the boomers to try and vote the younger gens into dying for Israel again btw. They did it once already with the millennials but I don't think the zoomers are gonna for it.

You retarded faggots could have just voted for Kamala and she would have told Bibi to fuck off then and there with a bratty attitude. But no, you had to vote for the Zion Don.

>>507682451 (OP)
Does it really matter when the government continues to bend over for them?

>>507696442
Actually fixing the border and deporting are the only way for republicans to win the next election, because the more brown people come into the country, the more power the democrats hold. The republicans are trying to pivot to a based conservative brown person like rubio, cruz, ramaswasy etc but the fundamental issue is the rape of white america, and that is what the voting bloc is dividing into, an electoral racewar.

As for the rape of white europe, you can blame the europeans and you would be right since like us they are idiotically openminded, and you can blame us for bombing iraq etc, but like I said the 800,000 indians that came into canada this year did not come fleeing a war, they came because they see white countries as weak and easy to exploit. And from that angle, the arabs have benefited hugely from the muslim colonization of europe, because now european countries must follow a pro muslim foreign policy due to the muslamic hordes controlling their cities.

>>507696237
>MAGA is the minority
I know, but they are a majority voting populace.
>If israel is eliminated all pieces are in place for a muslim superpower.
I am biased, I don't think this would be horrible. They would become more religiously secular as the gulf countries are copy-catting the USA as is, you'd get less waves of refugees, and less immigration as they're happy back home.

Ultimately I do not believe this will happen as gulf countries struggle with an infinite money hack as-is. I do personally think a peace-time Iran has some potential, despite bombs flying overhead and limited wealth, have some really great engineers weirdly enough. I could not say the same about Dubai, which instead focus on hollow and weak tourist attractions.

>>507696828
I think you will find that most nazis are thrilled at the prospect of a peaceful and developed middle east.. as long as the 200 million or so muslims in europe all go back. But that is simply an idea, and reality is much messier. Not only do the muslim countries benefit hugely from having colonies in every european country, but the europeans are suffering unaccountable hardship from having a racewar sprung upon them. They are being pushed out of their own cities. The result will be an insane amount of bloodshed between whites and muslims in the long term.

>>507686480
That's only post-2000's, the Soviet Union was the first country that recognized Israel, our left wing party was in shock when the first pro-Palestine movements showed up.

>Let Iran have nukes
>Be surprised that a jaded nation that only builds weapons to attack people for religious reasons might use that weapon irresponsibly

Iran wouldn't be such a risk if they actually attempted to build an economy, trade, and establish rights of any sort, but they haven't. They've spent almost the last 80 years doing nothing but being a terrorist breeding center. It's not a war for Israel, it's a war vs retarded mystic pyschopaths that want to destroy the Western world. This wouldn't be the case if we weren't such pussies after 9/11 and just dealt with the Muslim problem in it's entirety, but we backed down for no good reason and now these are the consequences, they'd be the exact same if Palestine was allowed to develop itself out for nuclear capabilities. You can criticize jews, but stop apologizing for sand niggers.

>>507696757
This isn't even true though. Legal Mexicans came out super hard for Republicans last election. It could even be argued that this entire Mexican flag psyop is an attempt at getting white conservatives to be angry with regular hispanic American citizens in order to push them to the left.

Sure the illegal aliens are still a problem, and there is the taxed remittances that are making illegal/Mexican nationals sperms out, but the big picture feels something like what I've mentioned.

>>507682451 (OP)
Make America Greedy Again!

>>507697095
>You can criticize jews
How much did it burn to type that out you sniveling fucking kike?

>>507697351
White people are tired of having their land taken from them, whether by legal or illegal brown people.

The only reason we focus on illegal immigration is that that's all we're allowed to talk about. We still fucking hate getting pushed out of our own country by hundreds of millions of brown people.

>>507697621
This. Canada was taken over by India via "legal immigration" and now we're a minority in our own homes with English being almost rare to hear in public.

>>507685013
Kys, reatded kike.

>>507682451 (OP)
It doesn't matter. The jews control the government, the media, the military, Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, academia, etc. It would take a violent revolution to end their power over America.

>>507682451 (OP)
USA will lose the war and TKD will manifest Worldwide!

Neat

>>507684359

Anon leftist are authoritarians that hate capitalism and like big goverment, A.K.A. fucking communists and socialists.

Liberals are the opposite of authoritarians, is in the fucking word:

>The word "liberal" originates from the Latin word "liber," meaning "free." This root connects to the core concept of liberalism, which emphasizes individual freedom and rights.

Liberals love capitalism and usually are for small goverment, if it means more personal freedom.

>>507682451 (OP)
>will there be any demographic of average Americans who still supports Israel?
They will be the minority. The question then is can the old lot still hold power. I doubt it. Jews overplayed their hands as always and make monsters they lose control over.
They lost the young left, and are starting to lose the young right, even though they still try to control it with people like Tommy Robinson, Geert Wilders etc.

Eight decade curse.