TRUMP HAS ACTUALLY NEVER ATTEMPTED PEACE TALKS WITH IRAN
why is trump tweeting so early lol

>>507705255 (OP)
I am no Trump Fan

But he gave them a deal - A reasonable one
They refused and now they suffer
What was he supposed to do?

>They know how to reach me

>>507705429
He never offered a deal. He just asked them to stop enrichment. They want some sanctions lifted in return which is completely reasonable.

>>507705429
Indian

>>507705429
>a jeet gets it and 99% of /pol/ doesnt
its fucking over

>>507705429
You are brown.

>>507705429

What deal you fucking idiot? He got them into fake negotiations while he was planned the attack with his jew master and father in law Bibi. The 60 day was a ruse and Israel shot first, and it was planned all along, you retarded dumb worthless low IQ idiot.

>>507705429
rangeban india

>>507705429
Why are you browner than me.

>>507705520
Iran should have realized that its in weak position

The smart thing to do
Would have been to listen to Trump
Stop Enrichment IMMEDIATELY - and dangle that as a carrot

"Ok now we stopped, give us something in return"
"Or else we start enriching again"
This is the art of the deal

>>507705429
Agreed.

>>507705429
You lost against Porkistan
Stop talking

>>507705429
low IQ jeet spam

>>507705686
This

>>507705658
Now its all moot since Israel has launched the fireworks

But had Iran followed the course of action I outlined here >>507705758
Things might have been different
Now we will never know

>>507705429
Tell israel to back down.

>>507705808
Fake News

>>507705429
>But he gave them a deal - A reasonable one
you mean bombing them a day before talks were supposed to start killing the diplomat involved?

>>507705429
His hands were tied, he gave them a deal, it was on the table and they didnt take the deal. It would have saved lives.

>>507705922
By then it was too late
It was clear that Iran was being stubborn and unreasonable by t hen

>>507706005
Exactly

HAPPENING
HES GOING ON AN INSANE REPOSTING SPREE RIGHT NOW
SOMETHING BIG IS HAPPENING TODAY

>>507705429
>they didn't hate him because he was Indian
>they hated him because he said the truth
based

>>507705658
you are the retard it was a two fold tactic the negotiations were real but trump and Netanyahu staged their disagreement to make any action against Iran be effective if it was necessary to take action which they have
>but they were stalling to get military equipment into the centcom
all the equipment they needed they would have needed to strike was there 1 month before Israel's strikes

>>507706020
allow me to complete human waste thay you are

>>507705629
No, you're just a fucking retard who fell for kike propaganda

>>507705255 (OP)
he's been up all night coordinating the bombing of iran

>>507706194
>>507705629

>>507705255 (OP)
I’m so sad bros. I thought Trump was gonna free us from the jews. What now?

>>507706292
you are a midwit who thinks he understand geopolitics

>>507705429
Indians are literally spying for Israel in Iran. To think a jeet has the best interest of Iran in mind is foolish

>>507705255 (OP)
He's having a meltie lmao

>>507706431
dont care kike, not dying for israel
kill yourself

>>507706452
I obviously am biased towards Israel
But I have no interest in seeing ordinary Iranians suffer
If there was/is a peaceful way out of this, I am all for it

>>507705255 (OP)
Well, Israel assassinated everyone involved with the last talks with the US, so not sure what people are expecting.

>>507705758
Stfu, shudra pajeet trash.

>>507705255 (OP)
he's slowly gaslighting people into going at war with Iran, this is the first step: "akshually it's IRAN's fault!!", but it couldn't be more obvious than this, he's not even being cautious or tactical anymore

Your meme president used to make people laugh, he was always a crazy person polluting politics, but at least things were fun, he cracked some jokes, bothered with the economy, kept diplomatic relationships. Now nobody is laughing anymore in front of his mental decline, he's becoming senile: he's always angry, like ALWAYS, he never reflects on his political or economical choices, he cuts ties with powerful people, his base is turning on him and he literally couldn't give less of a fuck, he's just doing his own thing now...you conservatards think one day he's going to make up for all this with a "gotcha" moment, but THIS is just the apetizer of what's about to come. I don't think he's interested himself in going to war with Iran to be honest, but that's irrelevant since it only takes one diplomatic mistake coming from his dementia to make things disastrous. Remember when you thought he was going to bring piss to Ukraine? Well...and that's the EASIEST conflict for him to resolve

Your evil empire dream is no more, it will be fun having you at the edge of your seat the whole time

>>507705255 (OP)
I already you guys,
>TRUMP peace plans
Are fake.

He always lie.

Too bad Iranians trusted him.

did rubio hijack the orange retards twitter account tonight or something?
even by drumpf standards he's downright neoconny tonight

Also, a lot of Iran army leaders died in 1 day because trump called them to gather together.

>>507707259
Nah, it's real trump.

Even his
>Deal
With Russians was fake. He talked pure nonsense.

>>507705255 (OP)
>Hes STILL rageposting
At this point he might as well be one of us. The president is a shitposter

>>507705429
>I will offer you a deal to denuclearize your shithole immediately or I will bomb your population centers. You don't want to take the deal? Tough luck, bombs away.
That's your logic, don't whine when it comes back biting you in the ass. Also: PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!

>>507706280
Allow me to explain to you HOW DIPLOMACY WORKS
before OFFICIAL talks begin there is BACK CHANNEL diplomacy
In these back channel talks it becomes clear negotiations will go somewhere

Once it is clear that there is some meaning in negotiations
Only then official talks begin
What clearly happened was that during backchannel talks
It was clear that Iran was in no mood to make any deal

What followed is what you see

>>507707561
See >>507705758

its all about having cards on the table
the card Iran COULD have had is
"We stopped enrichment for now"
It would have been a very powerful card

>>507705429
why is there an asshole in the middle of your flag?

>>507707688
They realized that they are not dealing with good faith negotiators. Trump behaves like a duplicitous kike who deceived them from A to Z. He claimed he wanted a deal, but he was playing theatrics with Bibi and he made plans for the attack before the talks even started.
If your argument is "might makes right," just say so and quit with the false justifications.

>>507708298
>They realized that they are not dealing with good faith negotiators.
Which implies Iran too had to faith in these negotiations
In which case this conflict was the pre determined outcome
Why blame anyone then

>"might makes right,"
Nope
What I mean is that there are strong and weak negotiating positions
When your negotiating position is weak as was true in Iran's case
You could strengthen your hand by offering them up something as I have indicated earlier

>>507708718
>implies Iran too had to faith
implies Iran too had NO faith in these negotiations

>>507705255 (OP)
He did, and he gave them 60 days to stop building nukes
Israel was given green light on day 61

How is India still not universally range banned in the west?

>>507709178
No he didn't.
Initially it was just supposed to be much like the old deal. But negotiations were going a bit too well for his liking, so he threw in the wrench
>TOTAL cessation of all uranium enrichment
That is an absurd demand that they were never going to take seriously. The truth is he never wanted the negotiations to succeed. He's preaching about it right now, but he is the one who sabotaged it himself.

Neocon crazies like Mark Levin were advocating for "total cessarion of enrichment" because they knew it would ruin the negotiation.

>>507705658
Why would you do a deal with someone who fakes deals and drops them on a whim?

>>507705865

>>507707620

>>507706431
anyone who says midwit is definitely a retard

>>507708996
How does that follow? Why are both sides bad faith negotiators if one side realized that the other side is bullshitting when it was already too late? What makes Iran a bad faith negotiator? The fact that they as a sovereign country didn't just fold like a lawn chair and offer unconditional surrender to Israel and the US?
If the US aligned itself with Pakistan a 100% and some American diplokike came to India like an Effendi and told Modi: Listen, we decided that all of Kashmir belongs to Pakistan from now on, you will demilitarize the whole border region and we have to talk about your nuclear program, it's unacceptable to us, only Pakistan is allowed to have nukes from now on. Negotiate with us, or else! If he already made an attack plan and everything was ready to go because he knows that these conditions are completely unacceptable to India (for good reasons), does that make India a bad faith negotiator? Your arguments and your logic aren't sound.

>>507709960
How is stopping enrichment unconditional surrender?
Why not use that as a card and see where that goes

If its the case that Iran thinks there was no point negotiating with the US
And hence they didnt take the negotiations seriously

Then why blame Trump

>>507709960
Ok now on to your hypothetical scenario about Indian and Pakistan

Firstly India is not in a weak negotiating position
India has about 180 nukes and is in a position to deliver them upto Agni 4 missile range

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agni_(missile)#Agni-IV

So your hypothetical scenario does not apply here

>>507707688
>"We stopped enrichment for now"
>It would have been a very powerful card
Yes, in 2014. Before ZOG shat all over the agreements they themselves made.

>>507705429
Lmao, Muslims are mad at you

>>507705658
Israel started planning this under Biden lol

>>507705255 (OP)
This nigger is on meth to stay up slurping juju cum

>>507710323
You mean the Obama Biden agreements
Those are not worth the paper they are written on
Anything negotiated by those weaklings is trash

The only deal worth anything is the one negotiated with Trump
Or any other similar hardline right wing leader

>>507705255 (OP)
what if Iran never calls?

>>507705255 (OP)
Well he okayed the Zionist attacks that assassinated Iran's lead negotiator and nuclear scientist, that's probably not a good way to start.

>A thread of the retard j*w slave talking about the mafia deal and a jeet idf asset

>>507710759
welcome to nu pol please enjoy jidf made jak memes

>>507705758
This retard has never negotiated for anything in his life. He must be shit at haggling too.
>Buy the elephant poo for 200 Rupees, and then comes back two weeks later asking for a discount on his past purchase.

>>507710878
What an idiotic post

>>507710921

>>507705758
>the art of the poo

>>507706020
no that is evil. That isn’t honorable. You kikes and Indians have zero honor in war . You lie and scam

>>507706431
I understand Israelis are psychopaths with no honor

>>507705429
Fuck you you fucking vile kike disgusting shit poop nigger KIKE DIE DIE DIE

>>507711379
What manner of creature is this?
It has an Israeli flag
And vomits bile against Jews

identify this creature

>>507711243
Fuck your honor. Medievil retard.

>>507709654
trump openly admitting that israel is the only deepstate and he is controlled by it.
as for the "deal" it was basially iran still having the NPT with, none of the benefits all the only downsides while Israel never signed NPT with no downsides.
iran would then still attacked by the same logic as in the 2003 iraq war

>>507705466
>explodes in your face while you're in the mid-sentence sayin you don't want to die for Israel
thank you Zion Don.

>>507711575
Mudslime arab

>>507712376
Interesting

>>507705520
>They want some sanctions lifted in return.
The deal is they stop enrichment and they don't get bombed by israel. If they wanted sanctions lifted they could make other concessions, but thats the thing. Iran is a theocracy and they can't actually change or make concessions without weakening the control over their population. The entire purpose of Iran from the mullah's perspective is to exploit the people of Iran so making any concessions is out of the picture. The only thing they have left is to threaten people and them demand things.

>>507705429
>What was he supposed to do?
Be loyal to his mandate and the people who elected him, and defend the interests of the American people.

>why is trump tweeting so early
Real nigga hours.

>>507712655
He is doing that
Do you know who the "Great Satan" is in Iranian Theocracy terminology
Do you know what a suitcase nuke is?

>>507710315
So your argument is "might makes right," that's a valid argument, but skip those preambles.

>>507712748
We literally call the U.S. the great dragon here... in the U.S.
And as for the football...

>you should have acted
>they are already here
>the elderscrolls told of their return
>after the time when oblivion opened
>when the sons of skyrim would spill their own blood

>>507712290
fucking based anti semite decimator phone!

>>507705255 (OP)

https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BYx43yY

>>507705255 (OP)
the retard doesnt even realize what his base is criticizing him for top kek this is literal boomer cognitive dissonance hes probably watching MIGA fox jews coverage

>>507712748
The threat of a suitcase nuke is a fantasy invented by the American propaganda apparatus to fear-monger about Al-Qaeda.

Pic related is the closest thing to a suitcase nuke that ever existed.

The people most likely to successfully built and implement a suitcase nuke are the Mossad kikes, not Iranians.

>>507705629
/pol/ has always been jewish and iran js kicking them off the website.

>>507714607
do you expect me to believe that the same people who built a secret drone base to launch attacks inside iran couldnt also just have smuggled in nukes like that and have them sitting in a basement of some apartment they rent year after year for a zero warning first strike capability

>>507705429
>But he gave them a deal - A reasonable one

>Stop trying to protect yourself or I keel u

>>507705255 (OP)
oh. it's way funnier than i thought.

>The Jerusalem Post says Trump warning Iran was interpreted as a green light for the attack

wow

>>507714607
Oh you naive child

>>507714607
The m29 wiuld fit in a backpack and basically you are fucking retarded

>>507714607
The M388 would fit in a backpack you fucking retard

>>507714607
The W54 would fit in a backpack and basically you are fucking retarded, pic rel is a guy jumping with one

>>507705429
>lets do a deal with a schizo who lies and is planning to attack you

Indian logic in a nutshell

>>507705758
Quiet when the white people are talking, poojeet.

>>507705429
Forgot the memeflag sir

>>507716196
thats pretty badass to have a nuke strapped to your nuts and be flying through the sky. imagine the rush. probably less than 5 people in all of human existence know that feeling

>>507716503
>nuke strapped to your nuts
It better not be leaking radiation.

>>507705629
literally a jidf memo
they recruited indians to takeover shilling here, because they were all getting ptsd and going crazier just reading posts

>>507705429
Iran made a deal in 2015, the JCPOA, which had provisions to ensure Iran would not build a nuke.

Trump's AIPAC masters want nothing less than the destruction of Iran. If they can trick Iran into first completely dismantling its nuclear infrastructure, then that just makes the task easier.

>>507717485
See >>507710433

>>507710359
Yeah, Netanyahu said he made the decision in November 2024, when Trump had won the election

>>507705429
It's insane how much seethe 1 flag can generate kek.
you indians are alright

>>507717535
Your response does not refuse anything.
>it was signed by "weaklings"
>not the erratic guy who reneges on his own agreements (e.g. USMCA) and this time clearly wasn't negotiating in good faith, just did it to trick Iran into being in a low state of alert and Iranian commanders not hiding in their bunkers the moment Israel attacked

>>507718033
>refuse
refute

>>507718033
Biden is the guy who let in hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants
Without any kind of vetting across the southern border
You think any deal made by the likes of him can be trusted?