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Here is the official list for hand tools

This list actually looks correct and good

>>507711743 (OP)
which tier is Black and Decker?

>>507712134
Nigger

>>507712134
No

>>507711743 (OP)
Let me guess.. You need more?

>>507711743 (OP)
I've got some decent pieces from Klein. I've actually never heard of bahco or wera. Wouldn't call dewalt or proto shit tier, depends on what category of tool.

>>507711743 (OP)
But what about my penis?

>>507712134
You're a novice with tools huh?
All the big names, the well known names, the ones that have received a lot of advertising, are literally the worst tools.

Britool pisses on them all.

>>507713808
>Britool
Sounds like poopy

>>507711743 (OP)
Bosch? Fuck no.

>>507711743 (OP)
i only need one hand tool and it's in my right hand rn ama

If you dont use tools to maoe money then just get whatever is cheapest. If you are DIY fixing stuff you might use it a dozen times or less its not worth worrying about

>>507713583
>powertools

>>507711743 (OP)
i use PARKSIDE. Why it's not on the list?

>>507712134
Black & Decker: ultra Godlike
Black + Decker: niggerlicious

>>507713894
The old britool stuff is the best, compare a 36mm britool against a facom or bahco or snap on. You can feel the quality. Nice smooth edges top quality forgings. Try get yourself 2nd hand on eBay you won’t regret it.

>>507711743 (OP)
Where is Hilti? What I've experienced of them they are nearly god-tier. The fact that they are not mentioned here throws your entire list into doubt and disarray.

>>507711743 (OP)
Milwaukee is made in pisrael and has a different battery for every tool fuck milwaukee

>>507711743 (OP)
Proto, Mac and Stanley tools are all fucking dead since Stanley black pecker bought craftsman they have been forced to consolidate.

Also Bacho is a subrand of Snap-on so if you want older tech of snap-on you should go with Williams which atleast has there made in america ratchets that are about the same as snap-on.

ICON is not that different from most Taiwanese made tools but I would recommend going with Tekton for the variety and price being slightly better. More fleshed out tool options with Tekton.

>>507712134
its always been terrible mate

>>507714222
No.
It's poopy.
Additionally, guys that discuss tools in this manner are usually white trash idiots

>>507714235
Hilti are great but they don't target homeowners and diy-ers, they target large constructions projects and companies.

>>507714038
I just buy cheap standard tools like drills since I use it just a few times a year when doing DIY projects like you said. Anytime I need something more niche like a concrete saw I just rent it for the day. Only ever needed one once before and it was $30 for a 24 hour rental. They will give you a qrd on how it functions and as long as you don't be a retard and break it then it is cheaper than buying a tool to use once.

>>507711743 (OP)
What's wrong with Dewalt? Always been reliable for me

>>507711743 (OP)
I hate Wera solely because of their motto. Fuck those kikes. Have no idea about their quality.

>>507711743 (OP)
wera is trash an anyone promoting it is reddit tier.
>what if we use lax made in czech laws to sell you Taiwan tools.

wurth isn't even a tool brand it buys other brands and sells at mark up to corporations.

the fact that knipex isn't in good tool list just shows how trash this list is.

also let not go into fact that snap-on own bahco and that fucking proto,mac and dewalt are stanley.

>>507714149
Its powertool not a hand tool

>>507714438
Good point. Didn't know that was a criteria but I will forgive this list although Dewalt is between shit and good tier. It's good shit.

>>507714038
i dont know about getting the absolute cheapest anon, but whatever your local store has which is reasonably priced will probably last you a long time for basic stuff around the house and on the car. spend a bit more on anything that has a ratchet in it because cheapo ones will break even on fairly light duty use.

but dont fucking buy shitty quality battery powered drills. its not worrth it. mains powered stuff tends to be ok at the lower end though.

>>507714235
This is DIY tier, Hilti is expensive as fuck so is usually work gear for higher end jobs.

Try Hikoki, it's what Hitachi became, I think it trades as Metabo in the US. Metabo also has a German line which sells here that's alright, but only alright.

>>507714149
>>507714235
>why isn't (insert brand here) on the list
Because /diy/ is dead and no one has updated or expanded the list in years, I believe.

/diy/ is a dead board. This image is useless

>>507711743 (OP)
I use my hands and nails and teeth and dick for industrial construction thank you very much electric-kike.

>>507711743 (OP)
the list tells me diy unironically has never used a tool for anything aside from bolts on ikea furniture and cellphones.

>>507714635
Wera is elite?

>>507714734
There's other boards on here besides anime porn? News to me.

Works just as well

klein and snap on are both 1st rate

>>507711743 (OP)
>be a tool rebel

>>507714548
There talking hand-tools in this regard. Its why german tools are rated higher since most of the DIY people are likely electricians. If you want slutty hand tools then anything under the umbrellas of Stanley black and decker is fine. Anything under Snap-on umbrella of brands is great. Any random Taiwaness tool brand is decent like harbor freight, Tekton, Sunnex.

All depends upon your need and price point. You really only need snap-on for precession torque specs and heavy breakage tools. Going all in on snap-on is a mistake for even seasoned mechanics.

>>507714360
Koken for sockets and ratchets, never regretted it.

>bosch
>god tier

>>507714870
I'd avoid them just on that tagline alone.

>>507711743 (OP)
Icon smokes snap-on for price vs performance it isnt even fucking close these days. If you like wasting money buy snap-on, should be in the shit tier for how much it fucking costs. I dont care what anyone says, a wrench should not cost 100+ fucking dollars for a piece of amateur machined metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAo2p3FjUxQ&t=499s

>>507714847
yeah most of that kit will probably last a long time and cover almost everything you might want to tackle. sometimes you find them heavily reduced in price and thats when you buy things like that.

>>507714886
If you want some real high end american steel then consider https://www.wrighttool.com/. I found there sockets, and wrenches(spanners) on amazon for a decent price. Pure sex like the japanese tools.

>>507714925
I know tight? The fucking Indian labour hire guys at my first job were using Bosch.

>>507711743 (OP)
i flog the fuck out of my tools and when they rust to shit or blow up I go buy another one and leave the old one on the side of the road for a blockhead to take home thinking he's scored. Thanks for taking my trash, numbnuts.

>>507711743 (OP)
Bahco is hit and miss, and it's made by Snap-on now.

>>507714847
>litterally aliexpress tools
You have low test ?

>knipex wrenches are bad
b8

>>507715021
>on amazon
Why must you Americans torment me so....

Though we actually have vendors here for them, I've seen them but not tried them. Could do with a set if deep impacts so I might give them a go.

>>507715272
There decently priced but really I do mean it when I say that they are truely the heaviest steel, finely polished pieces of tools I have ever used. The wrenches(spanners) are really tight tolerances that you may not be used to.

>>507713630
Bahco are big in vineyards for pruning stuff but not in the same league as Falco. I never knew they made power tools

>>507715082
Get a block of Camphor, it'll vaporize in your toolbox when moistute gets in and keep everything slightly greased to prevent rust.

Powertools edition

>>507715247
The are overpriced and typically too specialized for most diyers

Knipex will mold a nut driver into the tip of some needle noses and charge you an extra 50 for the feature that is useless 99% of the time.

>>507714826
lurk moar newfag

>>507715521
Jesus, absolute bait tier.

>>507715000
Trips of common sense

I'm a craftsman fella myself

>>507715521
You need a corporate account to really see the benefit of Hilti. Really nice warranty and repair service for a fleet of tools that major construction companies bang on all day. Top quality service. Really nice tools to use.

>>507715521
>Hitachi

From what I've seen Pic rel seems to be a pretty effective tool

>>507715528
they made it because someone had a need for it
just because it exists doesn't mean you have to buy it you fucking retard

i knew the list was ass backwards putting the best as worst for some nonsensical poorfaggot retardation

>>507715478
Thanks, plus makes your tools smell great. I'll remember this and think of you and offer up prayers when I do.

>>507715933
Fag

>>507715823
>i knew the list was ass backwards putting the best as worst for some nonsensical poorfaggot retardation

Knipex is a major contributor to the general trend of over engineering simple tools to jack up the price. Every time they make a retarded tool it jacks up the price of all there other tools and encourages other competitors to do the same shit. I can not stand when simple tools get over engineered so to me knipex is low iq shit.

>>507715758
Hitachi tools are old as fuck now so I will give them that.

>>507716146
lol no thanks, exit only asshole but thanks for checking

Who the fuck uses metabo?

>>507711743 (OP)
No Sears Craftmen?
Mastercraft?
what is ithis euroshit?

>>507716323
Americans

>>507716323
There's two Metabo, German Metabo and your Metabo/Hikoki. They're both alright.

>>507716329
craftman these days is utter shit. Last time I was at lowes I looked at their pliers and every single pair of pliers was misshapen.

>>507716439
Ah that explains it. Its like we have Rigid but its called something else in europe.

>>507716329
>Mastercraft?
some of that stuff is really not bad at all when it comes to power tools and hand tools. their basic stuff is fine for occasional use. its worth paying a bit more for their higher end stuff (like ratchet tools, which have lifetime warranties)

>>507716776
Yeah, also the tool varies where it's produced abd the quality too. Your Metabo/Hikoki could very easily be different to my country's Hikoki. You should check out Makita Red, it's the domestic line for Makita in Japan. Actually a huge difference in performance compared to the stuff they export.

>>507712134
Nigger on your Deck teir

dewalt is not shit every contractor uses all dewalt

>>507716991
Your princess auto is no different then our Harbor Freight. Its alot better quality then 15 years ago but atleast its not ass like Stanley has become.

>>507711743 (OP)
welp you guys are smoking crack.

>>507711743 (OP)
No 1990-2010s kamasa tools?

>>507717350
Dwalt is overpriced for it's performance.

Less than Milwaukee, but it's still meh.

>>507717747
Hows rinkeby?

>>507711743 (OP)
>no Hilti
Hah, poorfag diycels.

>ryobi not mentioned in image nor in thread
guess i'm the only actual human under 30 who has ever owned a house hre

>>507711743 (OP)
I reported this post for being off-topic.

>>507718270
>>507715521

>>507718270
EWWWEWWWEEW
i used ryobi when it was blue with orange accents, fucking disgusting tools

>>507711743 (OP)
Please put Harbor Freight as the absolute bottom, dog shit stuck to your shoe that will break and hurt you tier.