How does starting a war with Iran make housing more affordable?

>>507719244 (OP)
Is that price due to jobs or joggers?

>>507719244 (OP)
>starting a war with Iran
source?

>>507719244 (OP)
>draft goyim
>all 7483 genders
>send them to war
>...
>profit

>>507719244 (OP)
Not for us, dumbass. For the generals and politicians. It's very simple. They start a war, defense contracts start pouring in, thus more money comes in to fund the war. Everyone within the structure gets hefty paychecks because of the war, and thus want better housing. It's like when CNN or Fox or any other shitnews network says the economy is doing good, they mean a shareholder/investor is making money, not you as in the common people.

>>507719391
Neither, it's 30 minutes outside Toledo, OH by car so there are plenty of jobs.

>>507719244 (OP)
kills off the dumb niggercattle too stupid to save up money for a house

>>507719244 (OP)
>Middle of fucking nowhere ohio
>Closest population center is fucking Toledo and Detroit
>Lake effect snow every year from two different great lakes
Hmmm gee I wonder why it's so cheap

>>507719244 (OP)
>Timmy dies
>Jose gets the house

>>507719980
>Middle of nowhere but close to Toledo
Shrodinger's city?
>Lake effect snow every year from two different great lakes
https://weatherspark.com/y/16053/Average-Weather-in-Wauseon-Ohio-United-States-Year-Round
Yeah bro, 5 inches of snow. Don't hurt your pussy.

>>507720664
The only people who would be okay living that close to Toledo have either never been there or never left. One of the shittiest places on earth.

>>507720984
It's funny how America is the "greatest country in the world" until I start posting affordable houses. Then every place in America is actually the worst place to live imaginable.

>>507721333
Didn't Gilbert Grape's Mom fall through the roof of that house?

>>507721333
Fucking lol.

>>507719862
and fucking niggers

>>507721333
I see shit like this and it makes me wonder why burgers are so angry. You can literally move away from the cities and live a good life in cheap small town or rural area with space and land for low or no mortgage. I wish I could fucking do that. You won’t find anywhere outside of an urban shithole for less than about £150k here. Much more if you want to be in the actual country. $30k is crazy.

>>507721860
See >>507721721

>>507721918
Yeah, it clearly was an abandoned house. And they’ve tidied it up for sale. So fucking what, it’s still a home with a big garden for under $30k.

>>507721791
less than 1%
https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/43567/

>>507722041
image is from April. They haven't tidied up jack shit

Just confiscate everything from hedge funds and if they make a peep, kill them.

You guys post "Affordable" houses but they're always from some dogshit area like "Toledo". And they're always in poor shape needing possibly 10 of thousands in repairs.

Living 30 mins from the city means a 45+ min commute, maybe even an hour depending on traffic. There is a reason why its cheap, the house is falling apart and shitty, its 30 mins from Toledo.... no one wants to live in Toledo.

Real estate has always been about location. Who ever said "Yeah, I dream of living 30 mins outside of Toledo Ohio, thats where ill make my dreams come true".

The fuck haha

>>507722041
Yeah, nah. That image in the listing was from a decade ago

>>507721860
>>507722041
There's no fucking jobs you stupid bong
>but just commute
Gas money will eat up a lot of your finances and sitting in traffic for two hours a day will make you want to shoot the tires of every car next to you

>>507722345
>>507722507
Why do you have to wage in a city? Especially if your housing costs are like 1/4 of what they would be, you can probably get by with part time local job and/or remote work. Or self employment. It feels like a lot of the problem is people getting sucked into the idea of 9-5 waging and a mcmansion.

>>507719391
>Is that price due to jobs or joggers?
Its because the house is trashed and needs repairs. If you look at the picture the porch is sagging indicating possible foundation repairs and cracks in the walls, and there is a section of the wood under the eaves missing upstairs. Makes you wonder how many critters have gotten in and how much ceiling and attic damage there is. That's just from a quick glance. May be facing over 100k in repairs to get an occupation certificate.

>>507721860
>You can literally move away from the cities and live a good life in cheap small town or rural area with space and land for low or no mortgage
The choice then is abject poverty or a 1.5 hour commute (also have to factor in fuel and vehicle expenses; one of the reasons gas is so cheap in the US is because it wouldn’t function without cheap gas). Also, your kids will have to grow up in a shithole rural area. It’s a great childhood but devastating for them in early adulthood.

>>507719244 (OP)
Well you see, when all the fighting age men are sent to be blown up by drones, it reduces demand, and when demand decreases they import non-whites to shore up demand, but then the nonwhites don't get good jobs and cannot afford to pay rent so the landlord is eventually forced to sell the house to blackrock which is a holding company with trillions of dollars so it can afford to leave that home empty until someone with money can pay for it. This will artificially keep the prices high as supply is kept artificially low, but eventually your whole civilization begins to unwind and collapse as a result, and eventually when your nation is ruined and everyone is poor and nobody can afford anything, then Blackrock will give up and since your land is now worthless the jews are no longer interested in profiting from the ruinous desert your home became, so then finally you will be able to buy some rubble in the ruins to live in at an affordable price.

>>507722812
>bro just employ yourself
How did you do it? Provide a template so that we can follow in your path

>>507722812
>just start a business bro
>just find remote work bro
How about you have a functioning country first, redcoat?

>>507723757
>Also, your kids will have to grow up in a shithole rural area. It’s a great childhood but devastating for them in early adulthood.
Interesting. What do you think they miss out on exactly? Obviously there are still schools for them to socialise and make friends and they can drive by their late teens, I can’t think of much about cities that I’d want to expose my kids to.

>>507724536
Are you always this retarded or is it only in this thread?

>>507721539
kek

Housing is no longer affordable and never will be. Too many boomers will feel cheated.

>>507724785
There are affordable houses, they're just in dogshit locations where no one wants to live, or where there are realistically no decent jobs.

>>507719244 (OP)
Nigger, affordable housing is a meme. Previous generation had "affordible" housing cause everyone whonowned a wooden home had a pickup truck and could repair any part of it with one trip to home depot. You faggots can't hang a picture on a wall without hiring someone off angie's list. You will never afford a fucking house!

>>507725045
So how does one afford the house without income?

>>507725444
most people in those areas are either grifting disability or working two and a half jobs. if you are handy you can always make a living through grit in America.

>>507722507
I need to stop browsing /pol/, it's scaring the shit out of me. I have 22 years experience and I do okay - $225k a year, but it's SoCal so doesn't go as far as you would think. Also, not a B.S. job; I actually do shit that impacts revenue directly. But our company is on shaky ground right now due to some poor top-level decisions and I have no idea what to expect in the job market. I think I have enough loyalty with a few C-Levels that they could hook me up with another company (nepotism helps), but there's a chance even their contacts aren't hiring. If it was just me, I wouldn't freak out but I have a wife and kid (and another on the way) to take care of. Besides the memes, do any anons here have any actual feedback on the market? Is it as bad as we hear, or is it exaggerated? Given that you're good at what you do.

>>507721721
It's a bargain with a bit of elbow grease

>>507725045
>There are affordable houses, they're just in dogshit locations where no one wants to live
Indeed. Its always come down to LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

>>507725045
>There are affordable houses, they're just in dogshit locati-ACK!
Fiber internet
Good schools
Amtrak station
Move-in-ready
Quarter acre lot
It's even decently walkable

>>507724146
>>507724258
I already said my country is shit, it’s why the cheap houses here interested me. As for self employment it’s completely dependent on what your skills are or what you want to learn or do, there’s about a million videos on youtube that will tell you how to get started. I ran my own retail business for several years but I wage again now, mainly due to the fucking cost of living. If I could buy a house for under $50k I’d absolutely go back to being self employed.

>>507724618
I might ask why you seem so vehemently opposed to the idea of cheap rural living and always willing to find a reason to shit on the idea. Except in this instance, where your response was just to call me a retard and not provide any explanation at all.

>>507725730
In the middle of nowhere in a town where there nearest supermarket is 30 minutes drive. If you wanna get raped by Indians, sorry, First People's, go for it.

If you want to move to Japan I have a house I can sell you for only 1000 quid!

>>507719244 (OP)
housing values are based on wallstreet speculation. market go dumpa, houses do too

>>507725777
checked
Hey Breakroom, you can get a transfer to the Kewanee walmart. 0.8 mile walk from the housse, you don't need a car
>>507725973
Min wage in Illinois is $15/hr too.

>>507726137
>not provide any explanation at all

Cause you're a retard who obviously sees everything at face value. Google Maps exists. Look it up

>>507719244 (OP)
It only works if you supplement it with mass immigration from India

>>507719487
They will be replaced with iranian refugees

>>507726438
Look up the entire rural United States on Google Maps? It was a general point about raising kids in rural areas m8, if you had any reading comprehension you would have realised that.

>>507726328
forgot image

>>507723388
but it looks like it's made from stonewall or is this just a styrofoam facade? i would consider it for the price, given that there are no niggers around

>>507726328
>Hey Breakroom, you can get a transfer to the Kewanee walmart
What good will that do? Is management less insane there? I'm already spending all my free time on indeed and LinkedIn in the hopes of finding another job but it aint looking too hott.

>>507726594
>It was a general point about raising kids in rural areas m8
Former US president Ronald Reagan grew up in Galesburg, IL. It didn't hurt his career.

I could buy an affordable house but I'll have to drive 3 hours to work, spending $100 per day on commute plus depreciation on the car.

>>507726137
>If I could buy a house for under $50k
you can't, not anywhere you'd have a customer base for your retail shop, you fucking migrant cuck retard

>>507720664
>Yeah bro, 5 inches of snow. Don't hurt your pussy.

Yup.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/New-Hampshire/annual-snowfall.php

>>507724536
By “early adulthood” I meant when they finish high school, and particularly if they don’t find a job right out of college in another town. Or, god forbid, they stay there and don’t go to college.
>college bad
So is living in a small town devoid of things for young people to do and zero women. They’ll be trapped in poverty.

Nearly all girls move as soon as they can and never come back. The small town tradwife meme is real but a minuscule, tiny fraction of people. Most just move to a city right after college with 3 roommates in the fun part of town. Congratulations: you’re daughters a slut now, and we’ll on the path to that of the stereotypical modern woman (again, a fucking tragedy).

If the guys from small towns don’t find a job right out of college, the next several years are a struggle. This is true everywhere, but living in a cozy suburb puts them in a much better position to find people to hang out with and things to do.

>>507725578
And why would I live like that?

>>507723777
>the nonwhites don't get good jobs and cannot afford to pay rent
Trips of truth.
Keep it in mind when there’s talk about young people not being able to afford to live. It’s because young people are mostly unemployable mongrels. Young white people face collateral consequences.

>>507728114
Thanks for the explanation. Is small town America really that badly economically fucked? I get that a lot of retail went online, manufacturing got shipped off overseas and the white collar office jobs are in the cities (as it is here) but everywhere still surely needs local goods and services to some extent - Delivery people, builders, plumbers, mechanics, infrastructure maintenance etc. or is it genuinely the case that you have to call people in from cities miles away to do this stuff now?

>>507725656
Do you have savings? Job prospects in other states?

>>507720664
That's the average monthly snowfall...

>>507729446
America as a whole is economically fucked.
And local services generally come from the metropolitan areas, not cities

I'm just glad I live in a rural area surrounded by farms and wildlife because when this shitshow comes to a screeching halt, I'm going to stand a far better chance of survival here than any of those people stuck in a city with 50 million potential cannibal warlords.

>>507729907
I pray that I can build a homestead within 10 years
Even living 14 miles from a downtown area is just asking for trouble

>>507722098
And that 1% is responsible for 80%.

>iran war ends in US victory
>Golden Age of America begins, now with total control of iranian oil, so gas price drops down to $1
>US victory reaffirms our strength which strengthens our dollar and reverses inflation (remember, the dollar weakened and inflation got out of control after the 2021 biden withdrawal of afghan, that's when everything went fucky and memestonks mooned because dollar was basically shit)
>single iranian women refugees given priority entry
>these hot women inspire men to stop fapping, get jobs in home-building, and we build more houses in the trad style (bricks)
>oh yea we also kick out the illegals

>>507719244 (OP)
>action reaction, that's how this world works
You're right, how come I can find a job within 2 weeks for 20 years straight every time I try, when there are only a couple hundred jobs available across all the job boards in the city and the unemployment statistics claim there are over 200,000 people looking for jobs...

Why are logistics of tax spending mathematically impossible

Why are there seemingly less than 100 functional interactive websites that have social features on an internet with "billions of people"

Why have there been virtually no new movie ideas for over 10 years when there's billions of people?

Why does the internet seem to only have a few 10s of millions of video media clips produced over 20 years, when multiple billions of smart phones are supposed to exist?

Why are world leaders seemingly unable to communicate like humans at the most rudimentary 5 year old level in regards to information exchange and seem to not even be functioning in a way that indicates any exchange of information even exists in their listing of dialogue??

Why is the world soo artifical and full of cartoony looking gay cgi style video and one eyed eye patch spam garbage??

Why indeed these things?

And finally Why will you not answer and the whole internet seems devoid of authentic communication?

>>507719391
The price is due to mass immigration and the "affordable housing" scam ie building too many houses

My company is shutting down in 2 months and I'm getting laid off.
31 years old and live with my parents.
Saved 70k and still can't afford a house.
All I want is a tiny home but they're illegal thanks to boomer zoning board kikes.
I'm not going to work again until I can have a 600 sq ft house for 100k or less on a 6000 sq ft lot that I OWN, without a fucking 458 dollar a month HoA fee.

I'm not dying for Israel
I'm not paying anymore taxes

Simple as.

>>507719862
>live in a walmart trailer trash town
>spend 90 min in traffic daily
>pay gas and the toll jew

nah im good

>>507733028
Here are some other beard scratchers for you that you won't answer...

Why is it I've only seen someone carrying in groceries that I wasn't directly involved with me I.e. living with them or at their house one time in my entire life...

Why is it when I was a child about 80% of the commercials I saw on the t.v. were for kid centered ads around snack foods and toys, but I have more or less not seen a kids commercial for almost 20 years...

Why is it that I'm being told governments Are overspending soo much money it's more or less risking collapsing our nation, but nothing has actually materialized in the city what so ever but instead things have closed down or gone away and all public services are not provided free of charge as of the logistics are complete nonsense and nothing has been spent on anything because there is nothing new to point out that derrived a cost....

Why is it that history is soo full of plot holes and contradictions??

How did we go from 20,000 years+ of the prevailing technology was spreading animal shit on the ground and nothing else, to space flight, worldwide literacy, electricity and wireless telecommunications all within the span of 3-4 generations all coincidentally right around my lifetime??

Why is most of history soo vague and devoid of specifics or accounts of specifics??

>>507725656
you make a salary that 5% of americans earn and you're asking a board of people who weren't intelligent enough to buy and hold BTC what to do?

>>507725973
>Good schools

wrong, not reading the rest

>>507733028
>>507734195
Here's another beard scratcher...

Why is society seemingly centered around nonsensical social contention issues, while expressing no concern what so ever for collective survival or consensus on anything, while also having virtually nothing to do with the allocation of resources to produce a base level of needs being met?

Why also is virtually every well known "religion" all seem to have the idea that operand conditioning is fully ethical and justified and or just presupposes it as an infallible mechanism of that which is holy or infallible?? Why does virtually every religion have this factor baked into it, with no religions supposing that manipulating others through force, psychological manipulation and abuse is something to be considered extremely unethical and immoral even if you are labeling yourself as a higher authority or claim to be the highest authority in existence??

Whats up with that???

Why does it seem like simply questions on an Alexa rank top 50 website like 4chan with 200,000+ viewers can't get a simple response in a thread with less than 100 replies??

Wouldn't you think that would be mathematically/statistically near impossible??

Strange huh??

Also why do you think it feels like most everything in this world is entirely artificial??

>>507719244 (OP)
50% real estate drop incoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ixY4Imfug

>>507734195
I get it that you are referring to dead internet theory but a bunch of examples you cite are a real stretch. You may just be looking at things through a schitzo lens.
For example I go grocery shopping every week and I notice all of the people buying groceries and sometimes I see them repeatedly week after week. Small town shit.
Or the TV Commercial thing. In the 80's and 90's the TV was the way you advertised and sold products. And the boomers had a lot of kids who had kids so there was a big market for kids programs and products. Now, not so much. Nobody can afford to have kids. I don't know anyone who has kids. Everyone is old as fuck and dying.
History is NOT vague, but your education was lacking. If you go to a library and collect several history books on a particular subject you could find tons of detail. But if you go to a public school in the USA all you learn is: "13 colonies, slavery-bad, WW2, nazi's-bad, jews good." That's it. They barely scratch the surface and only tell you what you need to know to worship the jews and accept white original sin that all whites are nazi's who should be exterminated or something jewish like that. Gay shit.

>>507733028
>>507734195
>>507735263

Another beard scratcher for you...

Why do you think numbers such as, 6, 12, 33, 66, 666, 322, 522, 999 seem to repeat so much in media??

Why does just about half the thumbnails on youtube feature some variant of someone blocking their eyes with their hands in some way, whether it be both eyes or one, or wearing an eye patch or a blindfold??

Why do so many videos contain butterfly tattoos??

Why are there so many circular/spiral shapes in the back or foreground of videos??

Why do most of the videos that are older than 10 years seem to be artificially reduced in resolution to the point that it seems 120-240p was the average resolution when even vhs wasn't blurry enough to distort video?? How does digitally stored media magically degrade when it has no physical qualities??

Why is it that words like "cooked, destroyed, humiliated, roasted, based, cringe, hell, understood the assignment, Christchurch, cucked, kek, chud, chuddai, wata etc. Etc. Are spammed non stop when they seem to have little to zero appeal to actual humans??

>>507719244 (OP)
Dead people don't buy houses, stupid. It is supply and demand.

>>507733525
>Saved 70k
Not bad. I only have 6 bands myself

>>507734918
>wrong
Ah yes, the purity spiral. The number 2 school in the country would not be good enough for this poster.

>>507725730
>elbow grease
It needs $100k in work. You can tell just by looking at it.

>>507734918
Public School? why would you. Check for Crime Stats based n national average. OPs is a 33:100 which is really good . 100 being the best, for 89k thats not bad to raise a family. California bay area average 10:100. 3.3 times more crime with million dollar price tags.

>>507721860
Yeah, in Spain even the tiniest box costs like 250k now

>>507725973
>Amtrak station
Who the fuck rides Amtrak? We were looking into it for a weekend trip. Hey it'll be fun to take the train. A 3 hour train ride is $45 to get there and $75 for the return trip. Per person. Fuck that shit. What a ripoff.

>>507726887
>Ronald Reagan grew up in Galesburg, IL.
Yeah, in the 1920s.

>>507737157
You could dump 100k in the kitchen alone. You can strip rotted foundation out fairly cheap and replace with treated wood and just replace out the current siding and paint it yourself for less than 5k.

id' say maybe 18k could bring it back to livable and comfortable if that much.

>>507736257
>the kids being thrown into the meat grinder are buying and owning houses

>>507737550
The vast majority of people do not have the experience or ability to do major construction renovations, or even have the appropriate licensing to do so, electrical, plumbing, General Contractors license, etc.

My friend does renovations like this and ends up doing 70 hour work weeks fixing up homes to flip, and thats with two other guys working with him. If you hired them they would charge you at least as much in labor as parts costs, labor is super expensive.

>>507737401
you might as well fly. I took an Amtrak for 30 minutes and was ready to choke the nigger behind me. bitch kept kicking my seat. it would of been less but there was a 15 minute delay in the tunnel into New York from Newark airport. Dragged my broke wheel the bitch on the plane forced into overhead on my large backpack which one of the straps didn't clamp right to carry on my back. dragged it over half a mile to my hotel because I thought it was way closer to the fucking subway station. then forced to wait 4 hours due to slow ass maid service.
New York has lost its charm. everyone is loud and mouthy. before they were loud and spirited. its not the same. its like an expensive Detroit now.

>>507737550
What do you mean by replacing the foundation with wood?

>>507738050
NYC is a shithole. It was always kind of a dump, but it had charm like you said. After they rid the city of any and all charm between 2020 and 2022, it's just a dump.

>>507736763
lol my school was like a 3-4.

>>507719391
if you see someone post a house on /pol/ for under 100k, assume that there are nigger children being eaten by pitbulls just out of frame.

>>507736763
>greatschools

imagine posting the ratings of a website where "equity" is a factor in their rankings

>>507737401
>Who the fuck rides Amtrak?
I ride Amtrak. It's cheaper than gas.

>>507738013
I got a job doing construction and honestly there youtube. it's pretty helpful even for a beginner. I would say Dont pull a license. if you don't do a home inspection on the house and one wasn't done and tagged the house, don't pull one. just do the fucking work. or have a friend make sure the house isn't going to collapse without reporting it. don't report shit. not even a water heater replacement. although neighbors might snitch you out. if you get caught they just make you get a permit for what you're currently working on. which isn't much. 100 bucks usually to pull a permit.

>>507726844
This guy makes this same post every day with a different house, it’s always in the blackest areas of america. Newsflash his strategy doesn’t change. I moved to the middle of nowhere and there still some niggers here, and the house was 280k and it’s not crazy big

>>507719244 (OP)
Affordable housing?

>>507719244 (OP)
When (you) die, demand will go down so Jorge can buy the house for a reasonable price

>>507738176
hold houses usually have wood risers not concrete slabs. there is come concrete but usually its a mid section that has to be jacked up and removed out and replaced. Im not talking about a modern tension slab foundation.

>>507719244 (OP)
Truth Nuke incoming
If you want cheap housing you need to build high speed rail and light rail lines across mid-sized cities.
This will make them physically connected, which will make commuting extremely easy. This means that places that have jobs and no housing will be physically connected to the places places that have ample housing but no jobs.
It would also make it easier for companies to establish in cheap small cities if they can get workers to commute at ease.

>>507723388
>t. retard
Even if the whole house needs to be destroyed and rebuilt that still pretty even just for land in a major urban area. In Seattle, DC, or LA that house would be $1,000,000, and even in a lot of small towns and rural communities that house would be 2-3x more than 85k.

>>507738407
well look at the mayor and every DEI piece of shit voted in. False Jew lawyers making sure to replace the white bankers. not all Bankers were Jews. its a horrible place now. shit breaking down everywhere. fire fighters and cops replaced white Irish and now there is police corruption like never before and slow or no response time even in good areas.
Fuck NYC. I wont go back anytime soon

>>507726844
sold beautiful brick, good bones that >>507723388 is a mentalist. Dated as all hell inside, obv. - but clean. Which means it's prob. an inheritance rather than disused crackden. Can't speak to the area - and for $85k, you won't get every fucking thing you want - but I have very definitely seen way worse for more bucks.

>>507738474
I dont give a fuck. because rent is expensive and you can have the same shit move in. might as well own it, turn it into fort knox and kill any white meth head or nigger that breaks in

>>507723388

This is the truth. Every single time some faggot goes on a zillow tour for 'affordable houses' they're always unlivable dumps ready to be condemned.

Some boomer asshole is hoping an idiot rolls in that will pay cash + hold no inspections just to rid them of a headache.

There's no real demand for these ultra cheap properties because you're looking at a 18-24 month process of major repairs and insane amounts of money spent before you can live in the damn thing.

>>507719244 (OP)
Half this board says housing is about to crash and the other half says to buy a house now before prices go even higher and never come down.
Which is it? Which crystal ball should I listen to?

>>507738497
No it's not. If I want to take a weekend trip next month that takes me 150 miles, round trip will cost me $120 per person. For two that's $240. If I average 25 mpg and gas is $3.10, that'll be $37.20 for gas. If I bring another person or two, it would be an even bigger savings.

>>507738930
Every house foundation I've ever seen is either concrete, cinder blocks, or some sort of brick.

>>507738474
there are plenty of old factory towns in the midwest with affordable housing that aren't full of niggers

the factories are now closed, the weather is shit, the roads are shit, the jobs pay like shit, and the only business to open in the past 40 years is a walmart

every house will be 50+ years old with neglected maintenance that would cost tens of thousands to fix, many with only one bathroom, one car garage, almost all on small lots of land

50%+ of the people at the local elementary school will be receiving free lunch, town will have multiple trailer parks... that's the real issue with buying in these areas, you are living life amongst poor, stupid, lazy fucks with no aspirations to be anything else in life

>>507719244 (OP)
>Ohio
Don’t forget the toxic train wreck/sabotage with all the forever chemicals. Forever tho!

>>507739002
You know what's even easier than taking light rail? Driving.

>>507739612
>than taking light rail? Driving.
Traffic, congestion, parking.
Such problems dont exist with high speed rail, which also moves 3X faster than cars.

>>507739291
no nigger bars over windows = easy target

>>507739486
A Riser is on 6-8 in pour. You may have to replace out some concrete. but most of the riser is wood. lots of older victorian era homes have them. and most of these houses look dated. they're going to be cold and constant upkeeping. but its better than renting. rent is out of control. rent is almost as much as a fucking mortgage that has 20% down on it.
the good news is you can always leave after a lease is up. the bad news is having to have like 5-10 down for deposit. some people bid on rentals and offer money up front. its fucking insane. also a credit report and 3 reference by people. like you're applying for a 6 figure job.
we live in clown world.

>>507738666
I see what you're saying and some people do actually do this. that being said, its super obvious when my friend shows me a house thats been worked on by YouTube amateurs, its super obvious and lots of time they'll give up and sell the house part of the way through and my friend buys them for cheap.

I guess its fine if you plan on never selling the home, but most of these DIY renovations ive seen would never pass an inspection so selling them home becomes an issue when someone inspects that knows what they're doing.

The grout work on the tiling is almost always trash and crooked, drunk Mexicans building tract homes do a much better job and thats saying something.

>>507740178
Maybe it's not in a nigger-bar area - winwin. cba doing the Goggle streets drive around and my local knowledge is obviously limited - that said, it does genuinely all look nice enough otherwise.

>>507739307
Not only that but most of them are in the ghetto or other undesirable economically depressed areas that just..... suck.

>>507739319
it's market dependent

places like florida and texas are going down right now because home insurance rates skyrocketed and texas has insane property taxes

i also own a rental in a desirable small midwestern town where there is no new construction and everything that is listed under 500k goes pending in a day

>>507725656
>is it as bad as we hear
It is. Start planning an exit strategy if you think your company is going to start cutting.The market is brutal right now.

>I can't afford a hou-ACK!

>>507740435
Well you can always buy a piece of shit house, have someone tear it down for 10k plus another 10k for disposal of toxic waste.
then throw up a Boxabl house and when its paid off (in like 5 years) add another. like a lego set. LOL. its a good alternative. you can sometimes buy condem homes for a buck. and just have it dismantled and taken away and then drop a prefab and hook it up to the original waterline and sewer with some modifications (due to its small size). they're 400sq foot flats but like I said, keep buying and assembling them. they're even stackable. 50k per unit

>>507740084
I was talking about light rail for intracity commuting. You have to get to the stop. Hopefully you live within 20 minutes walking distance. Then you have to wait for the train. Could be a few minutes, could be another 20. Then it stops every mile. It takes 30 minutes to get to your destination stop and then you might have up to another 20 minute walk to get where you want to go. Driving, even with some traffic, is much faster and much more comfortable. Intercity high speed rail may be faster (again there is getting to the station and waiting for the train to leave, etc) but it's way more expensive.

>>507740815
Look up the demographics and weather of Flint MI.

>>507740815
Needs a whole new roof. Probably needs a complete gutting too. Once you put $50k into it, you could make it a bachelor pad.

>>507725973
I have to admit, clicked around a bit and Kewanee IL looks cozy af. As someone from Illinois its like a snapshot of the 90s. Lots of small mom and pop restaurants and businesses too, like how things used to be.

>>507741128
>You have to get to the stop. Hopefully you live within 20 minutes walking distance.
Intracity rail has stations everywhere so its never goi ng to be 20 minutes, they have stations every mile, they are like metro lines
>>507741128
>Then you have to wait for the train
Comes every 5 minutes
>>507741128
>could be another 20.
No, every 5 minutes for intracity
>>507741128
>Then it stops every mile.
More like every 500 meters
>>507741128
>and then you might have up to another 20 minute walk to get where you want to g
No, it leaves you 500 meters from where you want to be
Intercity is different, the waiting times are longer but basically doesnt stop. Just be on time at the station or wait 40 minutes

>>507740815
Now look at the back taxes. Yes, America is so retarded they demand you pay the previous owner's delinquent property taxes (which are a scam to begin with) before you even take ownership of the house. Could be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

>>507740815
>Just don't drink the water anon you'll be fine

I can't get a loan to buy a house with a low mortgage so I'm forced to rent a house for double the amount that it would cost me to buy a house.

Still doesn't make sense to me why affordable mortgages are only given to people that can afford expensive mortgages.

>>507741871
You're higher risk. Make more money or get a mortgage on a villa

It makes it more affordable for jews

>>507742579
I'm thinking about moving to another state and lowering my cost of living as much as I can so I can build credit and savings to buy a house, I work remote so as long as I have reliable internet I can work.

>>507741871
>so I'm forced to rent a house for double the amount that it would cost me to buy a house.
That doesn't happen. You just misunderstand how much it costs to own a home.

>>507721333
>>507719244 (OP)
The reason why these home prices vary so much in America is because they're made out of wood.
Wood fucking rots.
The home seller is trying to sell you a 200k demolition and construction project.

>>507743664
>100 year old home is rot and fall apart any minute now
Kek they used real 2x4s back then.

>>507740815
Being a wood house that has already aged decades means the walls are potentially falling apart and not even the roof may be holding in a few years. That's why houses in America sometimes reach nearly negative prices, wood buildings can essentially become a liability.

>>507743889
>>100 year old home is rot and fall apart any minute now
Imagine the smell of an 85yo wood home that has been sprayed with antifungal preservatives dozens of times. If a young teenage boy tosses himself towards the wall the wall breaks apart.
Why do you think it's being listed for 17k?

Wood ages, wood rots, wood is edible by microbes. That's why the standard worldwide is concrete beams + brick walls. America has it's own weird industry that constantly demolishes and rebuilds houses and these price fluctuations are a part of it.

>>507726887
Imagine the smell in that place. Wood floor, walls, and roof. The place needs weeks of work to make it feel bearable, that obviously drops the price dramatically. The seller is desperate to get that shit off his hands because he doesn't want to be cleaning and maintaining a giant pile of wood that will rot 100 times faster if he doesn't pay attention to for very long. It's a huge liability.

>>507740084
How can we convince Trump that lowering housing costs will benefit Israel?

>>507745048
>America has it's own weird industry that constantly demolishes and rebuilds houses..
I doubt that's viable any more, with materials, labor costs xxx. Price of most any plyshack 30 years+ is land value, but need to start moving to brick as they simply can't afford to keep rebuilding every few decades.

>>507725973
hypothetically speaking, if you work from home (high paying job) and can work from anywhere, why wouldn't you buy this and pay ~600 a month instead of paying nearly 2k in rent? hypothetically speaking, of course

>>507746509
The minimum cost of a house is 2 years of wages. At whatever wage level. The absolute minimum where no one profits anything and capital has zero return and interest is 0%. This is dictated by the minimum amount of man-hour required to make the materials, manage them and build the house, plus the associated construction like the streets, electric lines to the houses, etc.
About 4000 man-hours, for american houses of 24000 square meters

>>507722812
You probably can't even get the part-time employment in that kind of area. And self-employment is kinda like saying if you're in a fight, just don't get hit. Sure, that's a good idea, but it's useless advice.

>>507729534
No direct prospects, but I have a pretty good network of people that like working with me and they all have fairly high positions. I have to be a little careful with advertising I'm looking, as HR has recently started monitoring job sites and recruiters for employees looking to bail so they can cut them (shitty, I know). If there was a guarantee I could get the position, it wouldn't be an issue; but it's obviously not guaranteed. Savings got completely eaten up due to a flood (insurance helped, but didn't cover all, 150k in damages, $35k out of pocket) and medical bills in 2024. And we had furloughs in 2023. I'm probably good for MAYBE two months. We have no streaming services, don't go out to eat, everything is bare minimum so nothing really to cut.

>>507734595
I'm just asking about the job market, man. Some people here have firsthand experience and I'd trust them over Glassdoor, LinkedIn, or Reddit.

>>507723777
>so it can afford to leave that home empty until someone with money can pay for it.
Who will never arrive. There's something so grindingly stupid about most financial tricks, whether it's investing or speculating, this conviction that at some point there is certain to be some bigger fish to eat with a sweet deal. Maybe there isn't. Maybe you win the game and that means nobody gets to play anymore, and also a bunch of them die because it's not a game it's for real.

>>507740716
How long have you been looking / out of work?

>>507725973
>Amtrak station
Only a non-American would list this as a positive or even think of it as relevant information, quit using proxies you fag.

>>507719244 (OP)
Mass death causes a direct drop in demand and the supply is still there.

>>507747791
Surprised this thread is still here. It does seem America is even more economically fucked than I thought. Hang it there burgers, hopefully you can bring your small towns back to life eventually, you do seem to have a lot of nice affordable fixer-uppers for anyone who can make it work.

>>507719244 (OP)
Also, I could feel the sheer joy in OP that he finally found a non-Illinois house to post, since that's the most obvious debunking of his entire narrative. But he had to go back to it right away;
>>507721333
>>507725973
>>507726887
Any part of Illinois that isn't Chicago is blighted, full stop. Dead towns, dying people. But it was all built in a much more prosperous past that makes the houses look good on a street view picture. So this cunt of an OP can pretend that there's a great cheap house somewhere, except the trick is always revealed when you see "IL" in the address.

Finally, FINALLY he found a good one that isn't in Illinois, expect to see it again. But he's been doing this for years now, so just by taking this long to find that he's debunked any point he might've made with it.

>>507740815
See, this poster is much stupider and less experienced than OP. OP would understand that you can't have "Flint, MI" in the address line or your trick is immediately exposed. OP always chooses nothing towns in Illinois because most people aren't aware of what exactly that means.

>>507726265
How close is it to big titty girls?

>>507749209
hypothetically speaking, what if you started a "coalition" of 30/40 year olds with high-paying, WFH jobs, and we (i mean "they") all banded together and bought up property in these towns?

>>507725656
If you are actually making $225k and can't make it then you are a nigger and no amount of money will save you.

Niggers, kikes, and bitches always complain. Think about it.

Man supposedly is happy with a bed and a tv. But if he didnt have the tv he wouldnt be depressed at all.

Your ancestor ate 14 lbs of potatoes a day so he could work 14 hours a day.

>>507719244 (OP)
By sending off the young to die in war, you reduce the demand for housing which will lower prices due to increased supply.

>>507743664
>>507744053
~94% of houses are wood. You're retarded. The tear downs are usually caused by years of neglect by subhumans such as yourself.

>>507719244 (OP)
Spoiler alert. The reason you're not a homeowner isn't an imaginary war with Iran, but because you're unemployed, unemployable, have no skills or savings, and nigger tier credit.

>>507739129
>Almost 100k just for the land
>Another 200k easily to tear down the old house and build a new one
>Coming full circle to it being a 300+k investment and thus not affordable for 95% of the population
>Implying you aren't in fact the retard

>>507749628
That'd probably be extremely based and highly anti-Semitic, I hope nobody ever does that.

One thing I'd suggest is to include some blue-collar workers of high character as members of the coalition whose job is to rehab the town full-time; the WFH members work part time on the weekend. A big key to the longevity of such a place is to make it a place worth being in and for that you need people working to make it into such a place. They'll have plenty to do for years and years, but they'll need some way to make ends meet while they're doing it and "HOA" dues would probably be the only way to float them.

The other key is ownership; how do you own the land in a way that insulates you from the usual problems of gentrification?

I have other ideas about how to do it and make it engaging and stable for the long term but too much to put into one 2000 character post.

>>507726265
>If you want to move to Japan I have a house I can sell you for only 1000 quid!
I am sincerely interested in this do you have any info available or links. What is the prospect for work in Japan? I can teach English but I would have to learn Japanese I assume?

>>507747929
>>507725656
It's fucked. I don't know how else to put it.

>>507750102
I’m employed, employable, have savings, and am a skilled engineer. And my credit score is right around 800.
I can’t afford a house in my area because house prices have inflated out of reach of the middle class and interest rates are being held artificially high by the politically motivated Fed who want to make the economy hard so Trump looks bad.

What exactly do you get out of burying your head in the sand and enjoying watching your countrymen struggling to get a start? I’m gonna guess you bought a house at historically low interest rates when houses were more reasonably priced, sat on it and watched it triple in value, and now think you’re a financial genius because you were born 10 years earlier.

>>507721721
That basketball court probably attracts about 200 fully grown charcoal nigger bucks every morning. They will probably attack the next home owner that removes it for being raycis. That's why it's so cheap. Obvious danger.

>>507722812
My fucking dream (that won't probably come true) is that my grandparents sign over the deed/trust/whatever to me, and the house would be paid for and the only thing I'd have to worry about is property taxes and repairs... after a while, I could buy a few acres of land to hunt on like I did until I was 21 and then 28 (last year), and not have to worry so much. For all I give a shit, I could work a gas station job for 12-15 bucks an hour in Minnesota or Wisconsin and live the rest of my life that way.

>>507719244 (OP)
Demand will go down with all those young white men dead.

>>507719244 (OP)
When Blackrock needs to liquidate assets to fund Middle Eastern bullshit, prices will sink.

>>507745048
Bro, Fachwerk is being build to this day, and there are still several two hundred plus year old ones standing.

>>507745048
>>507754988
There's all sorts of things people could try for building materials but housing material is mostly determined by cultural inertia and what banks feel safe lending against.

>>507752949
Truly ambition is a curse

>>507719244 (OP)
Didn't you get the memo?
Trump want 15 minute freedom cities. You will be able to get a pod for half of your wage

>>507719244 (OP)
Because the United States is at war with iran?

>>507719244 (OP)
7k town in the middle of nowhere

>>507719244 (OP)
> America enters war
> America has draft
> Draftees die on battlefield
> Less people means less demand
> Demand for housing drops
> Prices come down due to less demand

Economics 101

>>507719244 (OP)
Thats a weird looking house, the brick part looks like it was added on to a craftsman home.

>>507724536
>What do you think they miss out on exactly?
If you send your kid to an impoverished sort of school with d-tier parents you risk your kid falling into a really bad crowd. The kid also misses out on everything better wealthy district schools have for the kids. Better pc labs and sports. More options for everything.
You basically want your kid around kids and parents where the expectation is everyone is either going to go to college or training. It's not oh well just graduuumkate and that it. Finish line reached, go work at wal-mart.

>>507719244 (OP)
The people who will replace our carcasses won't complain as much and will be given shit for free.

>>507757713
>Open the borders again
>Immigrants keep demand constant
Economics 201
>They don't have money to pay for houses
>Give them government money printed out of nowhere
Economics 301

>>507739299
okay have fun then, whats the problem? why are you not in a house? why do you not own 4 of those houses and be the jew slumlord of niggerlandia?