Trump's Neo-Con Turn, How Much Will It Hurt Him? - /pol/ (#507757000) [Archived: 997 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: obsrEyLRTurkey
6/17/2025, 8:45:45 PM No.507757000
boomers waking up
boomers waking up
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A huge reason Trump 1.0 ever happened was the anti-establishment backlash, both against Clintons, them being seen as turning into a dynasty with Hillary, but also the enormous failures of Bush administration and Iraq War, and the neo-con elite of GOP that enabled and facilitated these failures. The biggest part of momentum for the Trump Train in 2016 was his "outsider" status, being seen as delivering refuge from these elites that stood against the common man. It's a foundational part of his cult of personality.
Trump's base is willing to tolerate a lot of BS, perform a lot mental gymnastics to justify nonsense and Trump has survived an absolutely colossal amount of scandals, gaffes, policy reversals, and different kinds of shitshow that would have ended majority of politicians' careers. But I think many people, Trump and his aides* included, are severely overestimating Trump's ability to absorb such an enormous betrayal for one of his key promises to his base. In order to be successful he must be at least SEEN as being against neo-cons, even if he ends up tacitly endorsing them. No cult of personality or Fox News crap will sell outright starting an unprovoked war to his base. Maybe some end up still absorbing the "marching orders", but he is guaranteed to lose a lot of support over this, further weakening the prospects of Republican party for 2026 midterms and beyond. (I am not even mentioning the economic impact of oil price surge) What does /pol/ think? I think he is going to take a bigger L long term than he is realizing.
*=I think some of the aides might be deliberately lying to him regarding the military prospects, lack of exit strategy, and popularity of another ME war for their personal gain in this matter.
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Anonymous ID: yilRrhSOUnited States
6/17/2025, 8:46:52 PM No.507757138
gullible idiots
Anonymous ID: 6+vvKikZUnited States
6/17/2025, 8:46:54 PM No.507757146
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Anonymous ID: Sns7ugIxUnited States
6/17/2025, 8:47:29 PM No.507757226
>>507757000 (OP)
We need anti-war protests before this gets out of hand.
Anonymous ID: obsrEyLRTurkey
6/17/2025, 8:49:43 PM No.507757526
>>507757146
I think this stuff sells "Israel needs another X billion aid package" to boomers but it won't realy fly with coffins and energy price driven inflation.
Anonymous ID: j0ZO2LjkUnited States
6/17/2025, 8:56:43 PM No.507758354
>>507757000 (OP)
There is one way this wouldn't damage him and that's if it's an extremely short, victorious war without any lasting commitments. Which is highly unlikely to say the least, but probably what his advisors are telling him.
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Anonymous ID: /GolkMllUnited States
6/17/2025, 8:58:27 PM No.507758570
>>507757000 (OP)
This could really hurt his chances of getting elected to a third term
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Anonymous ID: Nhu7L/BTUnited States
6/17/2025, 9:00:35 PM No.507758808
>>507757000 (OP)
He doesn't care Trump can't seek reelection
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Anonymous ID: obsrEyLRTurkey
6/17/2025, 9:05:02 PM No.507759335
>>507758354
If I am betting they are telling him some variant of "A few weeks of air strikes without any American causalities will result in the collapse of the regime, Iranian people rising up and toppling IRGC, peace Middle East, and you being given Nobel Peace Prize".
I don't think I need to say that this is obviously not how it will go...
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>>507758808
Really?
Does he not give shit about midterms?
Or at least retaining enough of senate to not get impeached?
Does he not care about JD winning and continuing his legacy?
Surely he is not a big fan of Democrats winning trifecta, reversing his policies and potentially prosecuting him even?
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Anonymous ID: 4XphZK/yFrance
6/17/2025, 9:09:07 PM No.507759863
>>507758808
In France, they always say that a US president can do a more radical second term because he won't need to be reelected.
I've never really seen that in effect. More like, the president does not need the bozos who elected him again and is free to obey the lobbies, who can punish him a thousand times before breakfast.
Anonymous ID: /GolkMllUnited States
6/17/2025, 9:12:35 PM No.507760306
>>507759335
>do politicians care about anything other than shekels?
No
Anonymous ID: 59g9nYzRUnited States
6/17/2025, 9:21:40 PM No.507761400
>>507757000 (OP)
I doubt it has any significant impact on him. His followers are a cult of retards you already see so many of them back tracking and saying how good it is we are supporting the kikes. Everyone with an R next to their name will always retain this retard base. Republicans donโ€™t have principles all you have to do is say that a tranny might go to the bathroom and they will win
Anonymous ID: j0ZO2LjkUnited States
6/17/2025, 9:30:36 PM No.507762509
>>507759335
>Does he not give shit about midterms?
>Or at least retaining enough of senate to not get impeached?
>Does he not care about JD winning and continuing his legacy?
>Surely he is not a big fan of Democrats winning trifecta, reversing his policies and potentially prosecuting him even?

I mean, he WAS a Democrat, it's quite feasible he cares nothing except for himself.