Iran's cooked.

Two days in and their missile stockpiles are already depleted.

No wonder Israel wasn't deterred in the slightest.

>>507760538 (OP)
I've heard this one before

>>507760538 (OP)
Do they have 200,000 missiles or none. Which is it your fucking scumbag.

They can get more

>>507760656
Their missile factories are all destroyed.

>>507760538 (OP)
>Iran's cooked.
>Two days in and their missile stockpiles are already depleted.

Post video now from the Mossad building.

>>507760538 (OP)
It might be a long war. Iran obviously can't sustain a daily rate of 50+ missiles for long, so they need to conserve.

Also, it's likely that Israeli war planes bomb bunker entrances regularly to disrupt Iranian missile attacks. It takes time to clear up the tunnels.

>>507760653
Maybe they had a bunch, but they sure as fuck don't now. Their response is hilariously pathetic.

>>507760815
Mission accomplished, huh?

>>507760538 (OP)
Wow just like RU. What are the odds? Better break out the shovels, eh?

>>507760538 (OP)
Probbaly holding back for a US attack.

>>507760538 (OP)
Why are jews so desperate for help?
Retards lying.

>>507760538 (OP)
>>507760889
>IDF bot thread
TKD solves this forever.

>>507760538 (OP)
>stockpile shit for years.
>Fire like 300 rockets in 4 days, in smaller and smaller waves.
>He Is OuT oF mIsSiLeS!!
Why are people like this. Its obviously psychological warfare, and if you know war is coming you dont want to blow through your stockpile knowing it'll be shot out the air 50% of the time.

>>507760815
Other countries can send weapons

>>507760875
There's no benefit to letting military targets operate safely tomorrow, when you could have destroyed them today.

Israel's air defense will get replenished. Iran's just going to waste more missiles doing this piecemeal. Obviously they're doing it this way because they don't have the capability to do it any differently.

>it's likely that Israeli war planes bomb bunker entrances regularly to disrupt Iranian missile attacks
Iran's air defense was non-existent even when it was 100% intact. They couldn't do shit and gave up total air superiority on day one, it's only going to get worse (if such a thing is even possible).

>>507760538 (OP)
Tell John Bolton and Nimrata Haley, these war mongers wanting American soldiers to die for them. I want to see sabre rattling Bolton and Haley enlist in the front lines along with their family too, to show their patriotism, solidarity and leadership before asking the american public to go die for a proxy war in another country. Geopolitical stuff is important, but we need to focus within first before we can help others. Sorry but not sorry. How can I help you if I need to heal first? Plus I know what goy means and that is not very nice and now you want me to help you when you spit in my face? Why are you so aggressive and provoke war and hate? Like a bad girlfriend Israel. I just dont want to be associated with you like you was Diddy. Get it Bibi? Peace and love prevails. Remove nuclear weapons and weapons period from everyone in the middle east and we will have peace. We love you thank you for your service. United States citizens need you first. Stay safe.
>USS Nimitz you are the sacrificial lamb like USS Liberty, you will not be forgotten.

>>507760538 (OP)
So what, they game israel a beating and exposed them as weak.

>>507761115
When did Ukraine get total air superiority over Russia and bomb all their factories with impunity?

Russia built more missiles. Iran has no such capability.

>>507760538 (OP)
It's not really possible to infer Iran's missile stockpile from the intensity of attacks.

It might be a long war. Iran obviously can't sustain a daily rate of 50+ missiles for long, so they need to conserve. They need to save enough missiles for bombing American bases if that becomes necessary. They also need to save enough missiles to deliver nuclear warheads to Israel if it comes to that. Iran doesn't have a nuke yet and usual estimates are that it would take at least 2 weeks for Iran to build a nuke from the moment the decision to do so is made.

Iran might announce a large missile attack at time X or Y, but that might as well be a feint to make Israel waste warplane sorties on trying to hunt missile launchers that never exit their bunkers.

Also, it's likely that Israeli war planes bomb bunker tunnel entrances regularly to disrupt Iranian missile attacks. It takes time to clear up the tunnel entrances.

>>507760538 (OP)
> Israel cuts all live feeds.
> Claims Iranian missiles have run out.
Sure bud.

>>507760538 (OP)
>Totally btfo ran out of missiles!!!!!
Lol is NAFO being re-enlisted to shill for Israel now?

>>507760538 (OP)
one or two a day are enough to get the jews all bunkered up again and again they already destroyed key infrastructure

>>507760538 (OP)
We all know you would have gotten rekt in just a matter of time. You had no mathematical chance of winning. Be polite and say thank to you to your paypigs for bailing you out now, little Levi.

>>507760653
whichever narrative is more beneficial

>>507761432
Israel doesn't have air superiority over Iran though.

>>507761585
You're right, America does now. Iran is even more fucked.

as far as I can tell from what I've seen Iran is actually winning.
this shit is going to drag on for a long time, expect oil to keep going way higher. this wars an excuse for inflation from jews printing the fuck out of the dollar. see weimar germany for details in short, stock the fuck up

>>507760815
Everybody can go home then. War cancelled.

>>507761115
Russia isn't even using their missiles on Ukraine kek

its over

>>507761743
This just makes me think it was lie that jews ever achieved airspace dominance like they initially claimed. Or it could just be Zion Don stealing valor, as he and his kind (subhumans) are want to do.

Shlomo it's the 4th day in a row that you say that Iran ran out of missiles

>>507761307
>There's no benefit to letting military targets operate safely tomorrow,
Iran can't destroy the Israeli military resources that matter, which are the Israeli air force and the US factories that resupply Israel. Airfields are easily repaired. Aircraft can be diverted to Cyprus or Jordan until runways have been restored. US factories are too far away and off-limits for political reasons anyway.

Iran's strategy has to be to rely on counter-values strike against targets of economic value to deter continued aggression. Iran still haven't struck the juiciest targets in Israel such as semiconductor foundries, and Israel still hasn't struck Iran's oil export infrastructure, so clearly the conflict is not yet at the level of maximum escalation. Iran needs to conserve missiles for future escalation.

>Israel's air defense will get replenished
It takes months or possibly years to build meaningful numbers of interceptors, it's not a matter of days.

Two more weeks until Iran surrenders

>>507761743
Great proof Trump never lies

>>507760646
>NO MORE TANKS

>>507761464
They lose more missiles to Israeli domination of their airspace and launch sites than they fire. At some point it is legitimately "use it or lose it" and seems like they chose the latter.

>>507760538 (OP)
Ahh cool so the us can stay at home then?

>>507760538 (OP)
TKD.
Nuke Israel.

>>507761236
>if you know war is coming you dont want to blow through your stockpile knowing it'll be shot out the air 50% of the time.
War isn't "coming" it's already here for Iran. If all their missiles are good for is psychological warfare, and not destroying military targets, then they're fucked.

Guess they're either out of missiles or Israel is out of military targets.

>>507762595
>They lose more missiles to Israeli domination of their airspace and launch sites than they fire
How do you know?

>use it or lose it
If they keep missiles in bunkers, they can't lose them to airstrikes

>>507761389
We're past the point of posturing. Iran is even dumber than I thought if they think they can puff their chest out and negotiate a settlement.

Trump already set out the terms: UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER.

Better save those missiles for a rainy day, right? lol

>>507760653
Can we see the 'proof'?

>>507761517
Israel has like only 5 power plants and 4 water desalination plants.

If you're not taking out that infrastructure, don't pretend that you're trying to take out any infrastructure at all.

>>507760538 (OP)
>le Russia is out of ammo and men, Moscow will fall soon.

>>507763041
>If all their missiles are good for is psychological warfare, and not destroying military targets, then they're fucked.
So, why is Israel prohibiting/punishing it's own citizens if they take photos and videos of damage inside Israel and post it online? Why are they crying to Trump to intervene if Iran is 'so fucked?'

Let's hear a cope excuse if you can come up with one.

>>507760653
Yes and so was Sadam, Gadafi, Assad pick your dictator really.

Holy fuck who cares let the Middle east all have nukes and they can finally kill eachother so we don't have to do it. WHO THE FUCK CARES.

I can live with buying US and Russian OIL and some Venezuelan.

>>507762070
We saw collapsed apartment buildings in Tehran. That's not the work of a dinky 500kg warhead from a cruise missile. They were getting JDAMed in their capital on day 1

>>507760538 (OP)
>wasn't deterred
is Netanyahu still hiding out in Greece?

>>507760815
Israel is winning, that's why we are mobilizing. If Israel was losing we wouldn't be ready to join in.

>>507763682
In Ukraine there are many buildings collapsed from air raids, and that was the work of cruise missiles or glide bombs

>>507763643
It's basic opsec. America was always involved, Israel is just doing the dirty work of getting the fire cooking for their daddy.

>>507760538 (OP)
>Two days in and their missile stockpiles are already depleted.
I just watched them blow up an Israeli neighborhood so I think they still have missiles. Day 5 btw.

>>507760538 (OP)
Press (x) to doubt

Even if russia shits the bed, China and the Norks will supply all the munitions they will need.

We have to end the Iranian Genocide!!!!

>>507763789
yea, israel winning so hard they are even bringing and summoning all of Nato Zog to fight for them

>>507763983
>and that was the work of cruise missiles or glide bombs
>or glide bombs
FABs and JDAMs have the firepower to turn an apartment buildings foundation to rubble and collapse it, not these cruise missiles.

We saw tons of examples of Israel collapsing apartment buildings in Gaza with a couple well placed JDAMs.

You need air superiority to get into glide bomb range though.

>>507760646
jews being jews nothing fucking new.

>>507763492
It is said that Israel attacked some of the South Pars gas infrastructure and the Shahr Rey refinery
Iran responded by attacking the Haifa power plant and the Haifa refinery
So it seems like a gradual tit for tat has been going on

>>507764452
>30+ countries ganged up on Saddam, therefore he must have been winning

They know they're going to war with the US soon so they're preparing

>>507760538 (OP)
ok so what is israel gonna do now then? iran is not surrendering

>>507760538 (OP)
>1 out or 5 hits
What happened to Iron dome?

>>507764584
>You need air superiority to get into glide bomb range though.
In your opinion, does Russia have a similar degree of "air superiority" in Ukraine? The Russians constantly drop glide bombs on Ukrainians. The Russians also regularly post footage of Forpost, Orion and other drones sneaking past the front line and wreaking havoc behind the front line.

>>507761464
>It might be a long war.
Hence the reason the Iranian hardliners were targeted and taken out as well.

It's over. That's why President Trump is calling for them to surrender.

>>507764584
>>507765349

>>507764750
Saddam stayed in power when the entirety of nato attacked Iraq though. He wasn't killed until we went in with brits years later. Be careful not to come across like a retard, Israel doesn't want to look stupid because of some canadian who doesn't know history.

>>507763682
>We saw collapsed apartment buildings in Tehran.
Hardliners, who wanted war, being removed from the Earth.

>>507764750
>Just bring back your golems to do the Dirty job you don't want to

>>507764696
>Israel attacks with wonton aggression, launches decapitation strikes to assassinate your military leadership, bombs targets all across the country
>Iran response with half measures to demonstrate their restraint
It's hard to take Iran seriously. Putting Israel's oil refinery temporarily out of operation isn't a big deal, they can just import refined petroleum.

Given how Iran's attacks have gotten significantly weaker after just a couple days, while NATO shows zero signs of being deterred isn't a good sign for Iran.

>>507760538 (OP)
>A fucking (((leaf))).

the steady hand of a strong leader guides the israeli people and keeps them calm.

>>507760538 (OP)
>Trump: HAVE HAVE COMPLETE AIR CONTROL
>Iran launches 3 missiles
kek What a lying jew bastard

>>507765411
Just because they lost their commanders doesn't necessarily mean the organization disintegrates. And they failed to get the top guy.

Most of the assassinations occurred at the start of the conflict and happened because Iran was at a low state of alert so most commanders were at home rather in their bunkers. This was because Trump scheduled another negotiating round for Sunday and fooled the Iranians into thinking he was still willing to negotiate.

More assassinations have occurred since then, but I read that they recently banned all security service members from using any network-connected electronic devices, so it seems they figured out that was how they were being tracked and that the rate of assassinations will drop quickly in the future

>>507765349
Russia is only able to use glide bombs on the periphery of the front line, where Ukraine won't expose their AA systems by moving them up that far. They don't fly sorties into the heart of Ukraine because they don't have that degree of air superiority.

Iran apparently can't defend the airspace around their capital city from planes.

on the off chance you missed the 4x barrage on hasbara headquarters (starts about 20 seconds in).

>>507765619
Iran has a weaker hand so obviously they must be extremely careful in when they spend the few good cards they have. I think they're banking on Israel's relatively lower pain tolerance. Most importantly the strikes show that Iranian missiles *can* accurately strike and damage important infrastructure.

>NATO shows zero signs of being deterred
NATO countries aren't in range of Iranian missiles. Israel is. And Israel has apparently called Trump and told him they need America to bail them out. Trump seems inclined to do so despite the fact that it's going to split his base and might hurt him in the midterms. So it seems that Israel isn't feeling that the whole conflict is a cakewalk for them.

>>507765936
>happened because Iran was at a low state of alert so most commanders were at home rather in their bunkers
Big brained Iranian's at low alert when US was issuing public warnings to military personnel and citizens abroad to be on alert days before the attack.

>>507760653
6 million nuclear ovens

>>507760653
they 'had' before they got bombed and/or the launching bases bombed and/or the whole command chain got bombed

>>507766451
Evidently they're not interested or not capable of bringing Israel to that pain threshold, like I said there's only 4-5 powerplants and desalination plants in the country. That's a small number of targets to turn Israel into a completely dysfunctional country.

NATO has already made up their mind about regime change in Iran. This isn't Israel "dragging" the US into it, US was involved from the beginning.

>>507760538 (OP)
Hopefully the two sides can come to a peaceful agreement

>>507761280
No one likes Iran even their allies (Russia)

>>507766081
Iran is almost thrice as big as Ukraine by area, and they have far fewer AD systems (Iran didn't inherit vast amounts of S-300 systems from the USSR). Iran likely only has high-power AD to defend the most important areas. So cities like Tehran effectively become the "front line" of the air war even though they are far from Iran's border.

Iran's AD isn't exactly state of the art and has no AWACS support, while Israel has some really good glide bombs like Spice-1000 and SDB that have 100km+ range, and Spice ER with 150km+ range (going by wiki numbers). So it would seem logical that Israel should be able to safely drop glide bombs even on Iranian cities that have high-powered air defense.

>>507763492
This.

Iran has witnessed countries in their position fall and leaders violently deposed and mocked globally. The long considerate game is out the window in order for their survival, the more the US digs in, and it already has to an extent unreported, the shorter the life of Iran's regime. It really makes you wonder, I don't think it's all theater, I don't resort to /x/ Satan's dance reduction, but what the fuck is Iran doing? Russia already gave them the cold shoulder, no different than Syria and Assad. China isn't getting involved in this MENA shit, it's beneficial to remain far outside the lines and let America get sucked into another Iraq as Americans go at each others' throats.

Is this the other covert intention of Trump? To cause a civil war among his supporters? I'll be quite honest, I'm not living through another Iraq neocon fucking grift-attack-coup nor am I going to tolerate neocon boomers running their fucking mouths off the golf courses. This will be another terrible set back for American millennials who just prayed for two or four years of peace after Trump and Biden's plandemic. Nope, not even six months of hope, then trapdoored into Zio Hell as all these traitors including Trump Jr sneer at MAGA. This shit is truly incredible. Even Bush and Cheney must be in awe of ZionDon and J.D.League Vance. Newfags look up the JDLeague if you haven't.

>>507765936
>Just because they lost their commanders doesn't necessarily mean the organization disintegrates. And they failed to get the top guy.
Honestly, it's hard to imagine the replacements could be any more incompetent.
>More assassinations have occurred since then, but I read that they recently banned all security service members from using any network-connected electronic devices, so it seems they figured out that was how they were being tracked and that the rate of assassinations will drop quickly in the future
Whose bright idea was it to use western telecom hardware with CIA backdoors to run the country instead of switching to Chinese equipment?

There's no excuse for how unprepared they were.

>>507767166
>NATO has already made up their mind about regime change in Iran

absolutely insane how quickly it got to this point too

>>507766453
Yeah, idk why they were so gullible, thinking nothing would happen until after Sunday.

>>507760653
if the whole world collapses into the stone age, i hope at first we can see netanyahu drawn and quartered on live tv. this guy is a special kind of evil.

>>507760538 (OP)
don't tey got 4 nukes worth of missles, a domestic drone and missile factory?

>>507764160
china decide to wait things get calmer.
because of possible regime change

>>507761307
even pakistan vs. india had dog fights on the border, does Iran even have an airforce?

>>507767930
>the whole world collapses into the stone age, i hope at first we can see netanyahu drawn and quartered on live tv. this guy is a special kind of evil.
this I want to see him get shotgunned on live tv during one of his insufferable, lecturing speeches telling the US public that we should actually be "thanking" israel for starting this war, and "thanking israel" for saving us all by stopping Iran 1.5 seconds before they hit the the "kill the world" button le-extreme-evil sha sits on at all times

>>507760538 (OP)
Israel practices military censorship and hides anything that makes it look weak. The IDF is notorious among journalists for having a culture of lying. That's why Hamas records combat footage. They know the jews will lie and deny any losses they suffer for hasbara.

>>507760815
Damn you shitters really are repeating 2022 tier Ukrainian propaganda.

>>507765349
>s Russia have a similar degree of "air superiority" i
not at all

russia suffer because putin refuse to attack RADARs in europe

>radar show enemy aircrafts
>your aircraft don't need to use radar to target enemy

>>507760538 (OP)
I guess that's why Bibi is begging us to strike Iran

>>507766453
dude, iraninas killed their own president last year just to negotiate with usa

>>507760538 (OP)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/22/russian-invaders-have-three-days-of-supplies-left-says-ukraine-military
same bullshit propaganda..

>>507767795
Yeah, it seemed a lot of top level Iranians were quite gullible, naive and incompetent on security matters, and some "natural selection" might improve the average competency level. However such rapid promotions will cause some temporary organizational disruption

>instead of switching to Chinese equipment?
I think Chinese equipment isn't safe either, except maybe for some of the most recent Huawei equipment which has been completely indigenized. Most Chinese electronics have software or key hardware that is from the US or some US-aligned country.

I also read that they implored people to delete WhatsApp because it was working for the enemy. You could have the most secure device but if you're using Android or WhatsApp on it then what's the point?

>There's no excuse for how unprepared they were.
I agree, they should've figured out when Hezbollah leaders got assassinated last year that most of their electronics are reporting directly to Fort Meade

>>507760538 (OP)
It's almost midnight in Iran. If any of them are stupid enough to still be in Tehran they deserve what's coming. No joke, its coming in the next few hours.

>>507760653
>WMD
This time it's real. I swear.

>>507767709
I have no idea what Iran is doing either. Occam's razor says they're just inbred retards who are as hopeless as the rest of the Arab world.
North Korea showed the world that if you make nukes, people won't fuck with you. Iran's only had 50 fucking years.

>Russia already gave them the cold shoulder, no different than Syria and Assad.
Iran gave Russia the cold shoulder. Russia offered them the same military alliance that they entered with North Korea, Iran refused and they signed an agreement with zero security guarantees instead (which I don't even think Iran's parliament has bothered to ratify).

Iran and Russia both bailed out Assad the first time. What can you do to help a bunch of incompetent, illiterate, corrupt Arabs though? Assad had 5 years to regroup and dig in, and his army ended up losing the entire country in a couple days, while only managing to inflict like 10 enemy casualties. They're hopeless people that can't even help themselves.

Iran probably should have committed more serious reserves to Syria and manned the front lines themselves. Assad already had a plan: run away to his luxury condo in Moscow and live happily ever after.

>>507766112
Right in the middle of the day? Damn.

>>507768177
Pakis are evidently much smarter and more capable at modern warfare than Iranians. Iran has very good S-300 AA systems, but doesn't seem like anyone in the country knows how to operate them.

Wouldn't be surprised if their airforce was destroyed on the runway by drones launched just outside the airbase, like that attack on Russia's strategic bombers. Probably a ton of their AA systems got taken out like that too. There's probably an army of Mossad agents operating in country with relative impunity. Absolute dogshit state security.

>>507767166
>turn Israel into a completely dysfunctional country
If you're trying to do tit for tat retaliation then you have to be gradual. If you go for maximum destruction immediately, then after you've done that there's no longer much incentive for the enemy to stand down

>US was involved from the beginning
It seems to me they hoped Israel would've been able to do it alone. A surprise strike by both the US and Israel would've achieved much more than one by Israel alone, so if the US always intended to join they should've done so from the start. So I think Trump is reticent because he knows it's going to cost him a lot of political capital if the US gets directly involved.
It also seems to me that Israel has a lot of clout in the US, so if Israel can be made to exceed their pain threshold then it might make the Americans back off

>>507768453
Their delusion is insane, they're committed to weakness and groveling to the west for a deal.

>>507761432
what about the secret missile factories and many many decades of preparing for this day? dirty nukes are always an option too. depends on how badly things escalate

>>507768659
Huawei telecom equipment has been banned in the west for some time, before the chip embargos that forced China to modernize their silicon industry.
The chips running that infrastructure doesn't need to be made on the latest 5nm process. Older 20+ nm stuff probably works fine, it doesn't need to be super compact or energy efficient like a smartphone processor.

>You could have the most secure device but if you're using Android or WhatsApp on it then what's the point?
Most countries are woefully unprepared when it comes to protecting their information space. China is really the only country that has their shit together, with domestic tech platforms (like social media) and apps that aren't controlled by foreign powers. They're rolling out entirely home grown operating systems too, not based on Linux kernel or anything.

I dunno what Iran's problem is, not taking their security seriously at all. They should have been ass kissing and offering concessions to get some kind of security guarantees with Russia and China.

>>507760538 (OP)
The Ayatollah and his regime need to come to the realization that their worse enemy right now is not Israel or The United States. No, it is their own citizens that have eyes and ears on the ground. Iranian citizens are providing the IDF all the intelligence regarding troop movements, command and structure meeting times and places, even private residence addresses.

The Iranian people are ready for another life.

>>507760538 (OP)

Dirty jew detected

>>507761743
>this whole war was an infomercial to sell more american weapons to saudi arabia and eurotards

>>507771491
> it is their own citizens that have eyes and ears on the ground
If by that you mean their mobile phones that all report directly to Fort Meade, then I think you're right

>>507771213
>I dunno what Iran's problem is, not taking their security seriously at all.
The problem with securing your information space that is that you need an enormous amount of R&D and investment to replicate the necessary tech stack. Only China with its 1.4 billion people, as much as Europe and North America combined, can realistically do that.

One might think you can just tell people to ditch their phones and other electronics. However, it's probably extremely difficult to tell people that they and their families can't use consumer electronics for nebulous security reasons that they don't understand and can't see evidence of. I've experienced myself how addictive consumer electronics can be.

>>507769467
>If you're trying to do tit for tat retaliation then you have to be gradual.
>there's no longer much incentive for the enemy to stand down
You gotta wonder when, if ever, the gloves come off.
The West isn't going to stand down. This is a regime change operation, and some Israeli civilian casualties are acceptable collateral damage.

The longer the drag their feet, the more degraded their capabilities will be.

>It seems to me they hoped Israel would've been able to do it alone
There's zero reason to expect Israel to be able to finish the job alone. Nothing Israel does is on their own, like Ukraine it can only happen with a steady supply of US weapons and money.

>A surprise strike by both the US and Israel would've achieved much more
I think much of the effectiveness of the surprise strike was ground assets deployed throughout the country to drone attack AA sites and various things. Israel also depends on American ISR, so the US was 100% involved from the start.

> Trump is reticent because he knows it's going to cost him a lot of political capital if the US gets directly involved.
Trump doesn't give a shit, he was already elected for his final term, he doesn't need votes anymore.

>>507772644
They could have used more Chinese stuff. It's not like they had to worry about invasion from that quarter.

They stuck with compromised western systems and paid the price.

>>507772052
I think it's much more than that. Look how bad Syria was compromised, even the top generals were the payed off and didn't mount any defense.

These places are highly corruptible, there's no shortage of people eager to sell out.

>>507771964
Shit sales pitch given the performance of American AA systems.

It's about regime changing Iran to further isolate Russia and China.

>>507772687
Obviously, no one could've expected Israel to to do it *entirely* on its own. Israel surely receives critical intel from Chantilly, Langley and Fort Meade on Iranian targets. Israel will surely be resupplied with munitions from and US, if it isn't already happening. US planes help with shooting down incoming Iranian munitions.

>You gotta wonder when, if ever, the gloves come off.
I don't see it as there being any gloves that come off or stay on. I think it's more an attempt by Iran to signal that there will be a gradual tit for tat. You blow up one of our items of value, we blow up one of your items of value. You blow up one of our refineries, we blow up one of your refineries. You blow up some of our gas infrastructure, we blow up one of your power plants (Iran's gas infrastructure is almost entirely used for domestic power generation). Etc. So the goal is that Israel will be incentivized to stand down or at least limit what types of targets they strike in Iran, and since Israel has a lot of clout in Washington, it will also similarly restrain the US. At least, I think the Iranians are hoping so.

>he was already elected for his final term
Partially this is true, but he still has to think about the midterms. He also has to think about getting an ally elected as successor in 2028, or he might be prosecuted and go to prison.

>The longer the drag their feet, the more degraded their capabilities will be.
This is true but it's not a very great problem I think, because they hide their most critical assets in bunkers.

>>507773893
such regime changes just tend to not work. they tried so many times and just made things worse

>>507773072
Maybe, but that probably wouldn't have been enough if the Chinese devices all run Android and people use apps like WhatsApp. It was only recently that Huawei rolled out a 100% indigenous software stack, and I think they still don't have an attractive app ecosystem for the foreign market. But you're right, this is a life and death situation, so the Iranian gov should've taken it more seriously and made great effort to force everyone to only use secure electronics.

>>507771491
This. Just like every Arab country. They hate each other and themselves more than they could possibly hate Israel or America.

>>507760815
Nigger, they can buy infinite missiles from China in exchange for oil.

>>507760653
2,000,000 missiles? Who said Iran doesn’t have 20,000,000 missiles? Iran does have 2000,000,000,000 missiles and if they’re not shooting them that actually means they’re winning.

>>507773415
I think the problem in Syria might have more been a problem of morale: there was no belief that victory was possible. Hezbollah had been shown to have been made mostly irrelevant by Iron Dome, so there was not much reason for Iran or Iraqi PMF to come to Assad's rescue. Hezbollah itself was busy for obvious reasons, as were the Russians. No one was coming to bail out Assad, which both anti-Assad and pro-Assad factions realized, hence why anti-Assad factions decided to make a move and why all the top pro-Assad guys were busy packing their bags rather than mounting a defense. Thus everything rapidly collapsed like a house of cards, similar to Afghanistan in 2021.

>>507774134
>it will also similarly restrain the US. At least, I think the Iranians are hoping so.
That makes sense.
They also need to preserve plenty for when the US formally enters the war, there's lots of military bases that need to be struck.

> He also has to think about getting an ally elected as successor in 2028
I don't think he really gives a shit. He's 80 years old, its a 1 party system, doesn't which "side" wins, there will be a continuity of agenda.
As long as Trump's a good sport and doesn't retaliate for the previous legal actions against him, I'm sure all will be forgotten and Washington will remember Trump for his good service.

>>507774492
Yes, the lack of seriousness of these commanders is astonishing.

Iranian generals using western apps is a clear proof of iranian amateurism

>>507771213
you could use 90s chip tech that's more than adequate for this function

>>507775486
The Islamic Republic has always been retarded that way because their military doctrines are heavily inspired by Maoist ideas of people's warfare--all you need is a rifle and a Koran in your hand and Allah will guide you to victory, even though of course the 80s war with Iraq disproved that at a few hundred thousand killed or wounded.

>>507774708
Nigger, they can't pay with oil if they have no way of delivering the product.

We'll have to see how China decides to support them. Iran collapsing is bad for China, but it might be like Syria where they're just to useless to keep alive. Russia supporting Syria turned out to be a total waste of effort.

>>507760538 (OP)
Not going to the Middle East
>>507775084

>>507774708
No way for China to get missiles there outside shipping them through the Gulf which is easily blockaded.

>>507774708
>with their oil
uh yeah, about that...

>>507760653
They took out over 50% of their missile batteries in 3 days. Iran doesn't fire large swaths anymore because it reveals where the batteries are and they get targeted and destroyed.

>>507776212
Forgot: Their oil production is all in the Gulf thus incredibly easy to disable.

>>507774708
China has already told its citizens to leave Tehran. They don't give a fuck about Iran. Even if they did, their batteries are destroyed. What's going to launch them? Hope? Angry Islamic prayers?

>>507775070
Morale was obviously shit, quality of life was in the gutter due to sanctions, both the oil and food producing regions in the east being occupied.

Fear of the head chopping ISIS should have been enough motivation to keep fighting.

Poor morale is expected to affect everyone down the chain, but if hand picked loyalists appointed to top command positions are hopelessly demoralized and just praying that Mossad will offer them a juicy bribe, it's beyond over.

Hitler replaced all his generals that didn't believe in final victory. It was hopeless and delusional, but he didn't tolerate demoralized doubters in positions of high command.

>>507761140
Chileans are the Jews of Latam

>>507760653
It's both, retard. You're living in a post truth world. You can't trust anything, especially during war, because both sides indulge in disinformation campaigns because that is also part of war. Stop being retards and falling for it.

>>507776599
>Hitler replaced all his generals that didn't believe in final victory. It was hopeless and delusional, but he didn't tolerate demoralized doubters in positions of high command.
And how did that end? We should've just surrendered 1943 or killed Hitler like the Italians did with Mussolini, 4 million Germans would've lived

>>507775870
Yes, demagogy is what kills progress.
They could have invested in anti aircraft warfare and counterintelligence.

The two advantages Israel has over them and they didnt plan well enough.

If they don't collapse from this war, they need to ditch their commanders and replace them with rational individuals.

>>507776078
They could ship them by rail through Kazakhstan, then barge across the Caspian sea.

Not much point to trying though if Iran doesn't have any semblance of control of their air space. The stuff would get destroyed before it could be properly deployed.
Also Iranian's failed at using the AA systems they're already trained for. Introducing new and unfamiliar systems won't deliver the results those systems theoretically provide on-paper.

>>507760653
Back to 2003 "weapons of mass destruction"

>>507760538 (OP)
Russia ran out of missiles in March 2022, and they're still able to pack a punch.

>>507764907
Iran is begging for a ceasefire. That's not what you do when you win.
Iran will be reduced to a bunch of whiners not being able to do shit, like Lebanon now. Hezbollah didn't surrender but nobody pays attention to them anymore.

>>507765198
Iron Dome was designed for short range missiles (from Leb & Gaza) which move slower. Iran uses ballistic long range missiles which run faster.

>>507760889
They changed their strategy to firing 3-5 every hour. Basically this keeps the sirens going constantly and prevent Israelis from sleeping. Will be fun to see the psychotic breaks this causes in the notoriously mentally unstable Jewish population.

>>507761307
You really don’t seem to understand just how low the production rate of anti ballistic missile missiles is.

>>507761236
Well no, they fired like 10,000 missiles towards Israel last year. Once that failed they went dark until just the other day.

1 out of 3 hit? Didn't israel claim a 99% interception rate?

>>507760653
200000 i thought it was 2000000 missiles

>>507777163
Badly. Germany's just lucky they didn't manage to hold out long enough to get nuked.
You were fucked when Hitler got into war with the UK with no plan on capitulate the Brits and end the naval blockade.
Doubly fucked when he backstabbed the USSR and believed they'd surrender like the French the moment he "kicked the door in".
Triply fucked when he declared war on the USA just so they could go from arms shipments to bombing German cities and demanding nothing less than unconditional surrender.

>>507760815
Weird how this didn't stop Ukraine from fighting indefinitely.

>>507777412
Russia has a much greater industrial base and it was never under siege.

The two situations aren't comparable at all.

>>507760960
kek.

Parade Zion Don in a convertible through the rubble of Tel Aviv

>>507760538 (OP)
>3-5 Launched
>1 Hit

Ummm 6% chads, what's going on?

>>507760538 (OP)
It only takes 1 nuke

>>507778902
>At least one.
Minimum hit rate of 20%. Wonder how deep into the stocks Israel’s reaching. Think they are getting to using expired stocks yet?

>>507760653
Picrel proof

>>507778075
>Ukrainian's hate Russian's more than they hate themselves.
>White men are fare more competent at operating advanced weapon systems
Yugoslavia and Iraq both operated the same Vietnam war era S-75 AA system. Yugo's shot down F-117 stealth aircraft, Iraqi's didn't shoot down shit cause they didn't understand how it works and immediately turned off the ground radars before the missiles reached their target, rendering them blind and unguided.

Iran's going to have to rely on resupply from ports in the Caspian sea. Doubtful they will be able to keep that infrastructure intact.

Ukraine has tons of rail connections to Europe, and Russia hasn't even tried to shut down shipping to Odessa.

>>507760653
Surely after the strikes they have a lot less than 20,000. Or at the very least, far less launchers which are required to actually use the missile.
/pol/tards cannot comprehend this because they are braindead retarded

>>507761464
>estimates are that it would take at least 2 weeks for Iran to build a nuke

>>507760538 (OP)
>Iran's cooked
lololololololololol

>>507760538 (OP)
why is it that 'cooking' or 'cook' is good, and 'cooked' is bad?

>>507780234
obviously old footage

>>507760538 (OP)
Says the kike. Im sure they are cooked. isreal is just peachy though. luckily most kikes arent even in isreal. they are scheming in parliaments and central banks around the world.

iron dome is 3...2...ACK

>>507779481
Ooooofffffff lol. New salvo just dropped btw.

>>507763682
We have seen collapsed apartments in Israel as well

>>507778075
Ukraine has infinite EU and US weapons.

Just as an aside, can American aircraft carriers intercept hypersonics?

>>507777593
It's not the range of the weapon, but the nature of the target.

Iron dome and Patriot AA can shoot down planes, drones, basic rockets that Hezbolla uses that burn their fuel in the initial stage then proceed on a ballistic trajectory, and old shit like SCUD missiles (though apparently they have a problem with targeting the decoupled booster rather than the warhead).

New hypersonic missiles that are rocket propelled in the final approach to the target have a very poor interception rate.

>>507780280
You want to be the grill master doing the cooking, not the meat being cooked.

>>507765820
Are you muslim? Only way you can be this dumb lol

>>507780535
and soldiers.

>>507780829
Of course they simply need to sail into the landing zone and intercept it with their deck.

You are aware carriers themselves have no defenses, right? It’s the rest of the battle group that has those.

>>507760653
Can't launch any of them now that their batteries got BTFO.

>>507767508
Russia has been being humiliated for nearly 4 years by a small group of drunken Jewish nazi trannies with drones and throw away burger pews.
Putin can't do anything.

>>507781136
kek. Yeah I remember reading an article a little while ago about aircraft carriers being effectively obsolete against any legitimate threat but wasn't sure about how interceptions etc are handled.

>Iran's cooked.
Don't care. Fuck Israel. Fuck Trump for being a kike dick sucker.
They could be promising each American a truckload of gold after this, fuck em
TKD

>>507780829
The US navy uses Patriot AA missiles. They've proven incapable of protecting themselves from hypersonic missiles. Plenty of footage from Ukraine of Patriot batteries firing all their interceptors, then getting hit by the missile they failed to intercept.

>>507781855
No. The navy uses the SM series of missiles. Primarily SM-3s and SM-6s. We used up two years worth of production against Yemen….and now don’t have enough to fill all our VLS

>>507780897
Iran just hit maor airbase.
Iran is firing a lot of missiles again. Stupid doomer

>>507760538 (OP)

missiles are very easy to replenish and build actually

>>507782165
Kek, you're right. Patriot is meant to be an upgrade to the SM missiles in order to counter hypersonic threats. They haven't made the switch yet, and Patriot has already proven it's inadequacy.

Patriot interceptor production is a joke too. 650 units per year. That's dick all when doctrine says to launch 2 per incoming target, and they're failing to intercept stuff while firing 4 or 8.

>>507782272
>Iran just hit maor airbase.
Israel's flying out of "neutral" airbases, like Cyprus. They're not leaving valuable military aircraft sitting on the tarmac in Israel.

Putting a crater in an asphalt runway isn't going to do shit. It's like their previous Red Flag of Vengeance attacks on empty bases. More for show than tangible results.

>>507783531
So if the US joins and Iran sees those bases as fair targets, then what?

>>507783531
They just destroyed thaad launchers.
They killed a high ranking officer in the Israeli airforce before.

>>507782322
>missiles are very easy to replenish and build actually
Not when your factories can be bombed with impunity, port facilities storing things like hypergolic fuels are getting nuked (https://files.catbox.moe/qcd5sa.mp4), and launchers are getting taken out by drones deployed by saboteurs right outside your military bases.

>>507766688
checked

>>507783924
Yes, the ones in the gulf states will be fair game, but the US will have surely evacuated valuable targets in advance.
They'll probably operate out of bases in Turkey, they can refuel over Syria before entering Iran.
Doubtful they'd attack Turkish bases if Turkey hasn't officially entered the war, just like they haven't yet attacked US bases yet because the US is still pretending they're not at war.

>>507765728
how is this webm relevant to Israel retard? It's in Georgia

>>507784076
>They just destroyed thaad launchers.
>THAAD can't protect itself from the very threat they're designed to defeat
Why bother wasting missiles on thaad batteries instead of just taking out the thing they're supposed to be protecting?
>>507784076
>They killed a high ranking officer in the Israeli airforce before.
They still launched their missile strikes at night to minimize casualties. Israel assassinates their nuclear scientists, and Iran has the courtesy to blow up the Israeli research center at night when none of their scientists are at the office.

>>507780088
Honestly they're incompetent for failing for 50 years. Korea and Pakistan both made nukes.
They don't even necessarily need nukes for a WMD deterrent. They have the delivery systems to hit Israeli cities, nerve gas could inflict mass civilian casualties if they can't figure out atomics.

>>507763983
UKRAINIAN WOOD AND DIRT BUNKER VS IRANIAN SUPER CONCRETE BUNKERS...LOL

>>507780495
AA is a meme when it comes to defending against modern missile threats. Anyone who tells you otherwise is huffing copium or trying to sell you a THAAD or Patriot system. Iron Dome is just American AA tech with a "Made in Israel" sticker on it.

What we're seeing is the limits of Iran's ability or willingness to hit back hard. If ability isn't already the limiting factor, which I suspect it is, It's only going to decline further with every day of western attacks.

>>507760538 (OP)
Like Rashia in 2022, yeah, get new material you maple (curry) nigger

>>507760538 (OP)
Great, then you kikes can stop trying to drag the US into your war.

>>507781506
>drunken Jewish nazi trannies
yea russia is the one who is humiliated.

>>507787134
i kinda said that. except iron dome is worse because its just a full on psy op grift. those things were useless before hypersonics. regular ballistics can beat them a lot of the time. they were really made for shooting down fighter jets and bombers.

>>507777696
>Will be fun to see the psychotic breaks this causes in the notoriously mentally unstable Jewish population.
Like how the Canadian trucker convoy drove the people of Ottawa to the breaking point with incessant honking, but then got threatened and went home and everyone forgot about it.
>You really don’t seem to understand just how low the production rate of anti ballistic missile missiles is.
Show me the money. Israel and Iran both talk about Iran's missile production, but the results are pretty feeble so far.
Deterrence? Zero.
Damage? Limited.
Future capabilities? Questionable.

>>507788452
>>Will be fun to see the psychotic breaks this causes in the notoriously mentally unstable Jewish population.
>Like how the Canadian trucker convoy drove the people of Ottawa to the breaking point with incessant honking, but then got threatened and went home and everyone forgot about it.
no like the way the kikes stole every dollar they earned. arrested them, false flagged them. then rose the price of diesel for over a year. you are dense on purpose or a kike?

>>507781033
noooo this kind of stuff always makes me so sad
like what if the cook had been excited for that grill session all month/year and like cant afford to splurge like that often or it was a big occasion and it all goes to shit

>>507789013
One side is playing to win, the other side is satisfied with getting some social media updoots for their efforts.

>>507789761
ruining a bbq is a small price to pay to go viral. most people can only dream.