How bad is it? What is the true purpose of chemo? Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?

>>507817945 (OP)
> Are there any other treatments
Chemo is bad
Depends what cancer you have?

>politics

>>507817945 (OP)
Getting infected with a very strong virus like rabies. A man had cancer. Got bit bu a rabid dog guy got rabies and was treated for rabies then the doctors discovered his tumor was gone.

>>507817945 (OP)

Practically they putting poison to your veins....you will coming so sick than you hope to die....After treatment your body will be long time so weak than minor fly can kill you....many dying.

Chemo was derived from mustard gas. This should tell you enough. Also, when you get to the kemo part, they also need to do a bunch of shit to balance the damage they are doing to you (you get blood transfusions and other shit).
Usually that once you get there it's over.
PS: a cancer survivor is counted as someone who makes it 5 years into the battle with cancer. Even tho it may kill you later.

Anon posted this once so im paraphrasing
>don't have cancer
>go to doctor
>you have cancer, get chemo
>do chemo, now you REALLY DO have cancer
>die within 5 years
>darn, we tried our best...

>>507817945 (OP)
>Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?

Extreme fasting

My father in law is undergoing chemo for poor blood cell production because they assume there is malformation leading to poor production of blood in his bones. He works a physical job and the chemo seems like it has done nothing. No benefit, no loss, just nothing. They haven't detected cancer and they have him undergoing chemo which did nothing. So for all intents and purposes, chemo does nothing, not even the commonly associated weakness which might be just radiation therapy, and is wealth extraction from poorly informed sick people. As always, no matter what your political opinion we should remember that doctors are the third leading cause of death explicitly due to malpractice.

>>507818346
Does it do anything about the cancer or just mask the problem? Is it like the Covid-1984 shot where the "cure" was the actual problem?

>>507818397

My bloodline has weakness to get cancer...my dad died it too....I have already desided not taking any treatment if I get cancer. Fuck all quacks.

>>507818397
Yep, many such cases

>>507817945 (OP)
I don't know but i know a woman who was given 8 months to live due to cancer.
She refused their "help" and now dtinks 3 litres of carrot juice. Its been 18 months now. She swears by it.

>>507817945 (OP)
>Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?
Yes: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/18/medical-cannabis-cancer-study

>just put literal roundup poison into your veins
>make your body so deathly ill even the cancer doesn't want you anymore
>literally profit billions

Gee anon...idk

>>507819938
Whose fault is this? Who needs to die?

ask steve jobs

>>507817945 (OP)
Chemo is insane if you know what cancer is. Cancer is cells that mutated because of tumorous masses which appeared because the body is failing to deal with some form of chronic damage. The body relies on white blood cells to remove dead cells and when it can't they accumulate as tumors. Poor white blood cell production and some form of chronic damage can overwhelm the system and the cells mutate as a last resort to dealing with the tumorous masses.

Chemo doesn't address it at all. It just attacks the cancer cells, which should be viewed as a symptom and not the cause. It can only cause additional damage that the body has to repair even though it's likely already in a compromised state.

If you're curious about this, look up Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He advocated for the primal diet as a treatment and cured himself of cancer doing it. He then mysteriously died by falling from his balcony.

>>507819457
That's what Aajonus started out with, raw carrot juice. While not the best food in terms of micro nutritional content needed for the body to heal, it does work by elimination of other potentially harmful foods. The modern food supply is just pure poison and is the reason bowel cancer is showing up sooner in the population.

Fasting is proven to stop and even eliminate cancers. Chemo induces fasting by making people sick. This is why sometimes the chemo "works".

>>507821101
This is one of the bigger loads of horseshit I have read on /pol/. Canadians truly are retarded.

>>507817945 (OP)
Purpose of Chemo is to kill the cancer cells and hope it doesn't kill you along with them. Good luck sir.

Doctors get people with a low chance of survival on chemo making them feel even worse in their final days. Don't get a blood transfusion either.

chemo is controlled poison, there is more of your good body than your cancer body, the hope is that if they pump you with poison they will kill the cancer and then the good thats left can rebuild itself afterwards.
its not a good option but if surgery isnt possible its the best we have, its either that or wait and see how it goes, some people live a long time with cancer others die within months.

>>507817945 (OP)
Chemo is bad.
I had a friend who had cancer, almost died of sepsis from the chemo. I looked into it, had he died of sepsis it would have been counted as "died of cancer" despite the fact that it was caused by the chemo. If you look up the number of deaths caused by chemo rather than cancer you'll find it's not really studied and no one knows.
So in practice, it's very likely that most "cancer deaths" are really "chemo deaths" but no one even talks about it because people are too scared to face the reality that we don't really know how to treat cancer.

Look up the mortality rate of your cancer for your age. Doctors often don't want to tell people bad news so they string them along like dummies until they stop showing up for treatment.

>>507817945 (OP)
hang on ofr about 10 years op. they fully expect ai to cure cancer soon.

>>507821857
Cure cancer then die of a heart attack. Death will not be cured.

>>507821777
lots of people are diagnosed with fatal cancer and they have zero hope. none. doctors give them chemo tho they know they have no hope. nobody wants to be without hope. most people would rather die a painful death from chemo with small hope than do nothing and die of cancer.

Water-fast for 40 days. Ketosis and cellular autophagy. Bonus if you dry-fast for the first 10 days.

>>507821101
So should I drinkcarrot juice to prevent cancer?

>>507818604

To make that poison work doctors destroying your natural immunity system with medicins which means than you get killed even by normal flu.

>>507817945 (OP)
Medfag here, you literally kill all the cells in your body in hope to kill the cancer first, thats why you fuck up your hair, skin and get AIDS due to eradicating all your white cells

>>507817945 (OP)
>Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?

Turmeric, laetrial(apricot seeds, apple seeds, grape seeds. Nature's chemotherapy), sour sop, cannabis oil, and carrot juice.

Most people don't even die of cancer. They die of the chemotherapy itself. They just count the death as cancer.

Monoclonal antibody treatment is new for cancer. Seek it if possible

>>507821101
humans have like one gene variant associated with dna repair. tortoises have lots of them. it is why they live so long. cancer is malfunctioning genes caused by damage over time. the damage causes the genes to produce junk. one day we will be able to increase the gene variants in humans that repair this damage and cure cancer.

>>507822161
steve jobs drank it all the time and he died of cancer.

My mother had Breast cancer. They removed the tumor and had her undergo a second surgery to make sure all of it had been removed. Then they scanned her whole body and found no trace of cancer cells. Once they declared her cancer-free they told her "It was a really aggressive cancer, you'll have to do chemo and radiotherapy." she told them she wouldn't, because she was cancer free, and then they spent the following year calling her every few days insisting that she NEEDED the chemo and radiotherapy, JUST IN CASE. She refused, and Thank God it never came back. Doctors are butchers and lack all semblance of empathy.

>>507822785
He died of HIV/AIDS. They just covered it up as cancer to cover Apples reputation.

>>507817945 (OP)
Combination Therapy, basically combine two therapies at once.

Also take ivermectin, avoid sugar and PUFAs, and spend an hour in a sauna 3x a week. These help your immune system identify aberrant cells.

It’s a last ditch effort to destroy cancer by attacking the fastest repricing cells.

It can be tailored to the specific cancer as most have mutations in specific sections of the cell cycle like disruptions in protein P51, MYC or P53 in the cell cycle that control START. Depending on what’s. Broken you can try to poison those mutant cells.

More hopefully stuff like CAR-T immunotherapy and RNA interference techniques are in human trials. The immunotherapy basically genetically engineers extra aggressive t-cells programmed to identify mutant proteins on the cancer cell and to eat the cancer and the RNA interference techniques make the cells produce complimentary RNA or DNA specific designed to attach to the broken DNA or RNA in cancer cells and bind them up to prevent cell division and protein expression. Very exciting stuff.

>>507817945 (OP)
If you can get the cancer surgically removed do it that way don't fuck around with chemo because post chemo increases chances of having another type of cancer due to the exposure of radiation, also many of these "natural" methods like fenbendazole doesn't work.

>>507822416
it's so obviously insane as a treatment
>if we poison you're entire body maybe you'll get lucky and the cancer will die in time for there to be enough of you left over to not also die
anything other than catching it in time for total incision just seems blatantly retarded and kind of cruel to put someone through instead of just focusing on making them as comfortable as you can
i want to believe fasting works (autophagy magically targeting weakest/junk cells first) but i really don't know

>>507817945 (OP)
Serious answer.

Each time a cell divides, the complete genome inside also divides in half. Each daughter cell gets half the DNA and an enzyme completes the missing part. Cells divide when they cannot detect their neighbors anymore, like healing a cut. But environmental damage can cause the cell to be deaf and begin to divide when there is no damage.

Two main lines of defense for cells that go rogue like that.

Step one is the body orders the cell to die. Cells are capable of suiciding when ordered (apoptosis) and have zero reluctance. This can fail because the signal isn't detectable by the cell or it's otherwise unable to comply. Both are caused by damage. (radiation, chemicals, injury)

Step two relies on telomeres. Each time the DNA divides, a piece is torn off both ends. This would be catastrophic if information was being lost, but there are around 100 repeating TG sequences that don't code for anything (no start code at the beginning) so when they are torn off, it isn't fatal. But when the cell detects it has only a few telomeres left, it will refuse to divide. It is perfectly functional otherwise, it just isn't capable of repairing damage.

Incidentally, this is the reason we grow old and die. Eventually most of our cells are unable to repair damage. Our skin wrinkles, our eyesight dims, our hair goes gray, bones become brittle, then the flu takes us out.

Chemo and radiation therapy are designed to destroy cells in the target area as precisely as they can manage. The hope is that new, undamaged cells will replace them. This is called 'remission'.

>>507817945 (OP)
>how bad?
bad
>true purpose
To give you a chance of surviving your disease.
>refuse to acknowledge
Well, when oncologists get cancer they sit for chemo, so if those treatments do exist, I admire the dedication to the lie.

>>507823302

>>507818398
also known as fasting

>>507817945 (OP)
just do a parasite cleanse

>>507819780
>tfw too high to die
B^)

>>507817945 (OP)
>noo don't get chemoo
>just let cancer advance unopposed
This thread

>>507822785
>>507822911
Steve Jobs died from PC (pancreatic cancer) from being an absolute idiot retard

chlorine dioxide cures everything

>>507823302
'Chemo' is a large group of chemical interventions, not just one shot. The chemical chosen depends on the type of cell that needs to be destroyed and the sensitivity of neighboring cells to the same chemical. The hope is that intervention can be as targeted as possible, limiting the deliberate damage to the cells that have gone rogue.

Radiation obliterates cells in the area just below the probe and is like a shotgun approach when chemo isn't possible or isn't capable of targeting the specific cells well enough.

>>507823560
there's another way to stop fast growing cells, stop eating lole

>>507823302
Also incidentally, the chances that cells will be damaged is pretty high in one's lifetime. For example, when sperm meets egg, we have one fertilized cell. Within 9 months, that ends up being something like 12 trillion cells. Shit is guaranteed to go wrong with so many doublings. This is why we end up with skin tags, moles, birthmarks, etc. Cell lines go rogue, refuse to die, and the Hayflick limit kicks in to turn the tissue benign.

Surfers, boxers, miners, and any lifestyle that involves constant low-level damage to the tissues therefore reduces our lifespan. Even bodybuilders are doing harm to their longevity when they deliberately cause their muscle tissues to tear and need repair, which is why they grow back larger and thus the person 'bulks up'.

>>507821777
Trips of truth.
My father died of sepsis roughly a week after a nurse came in to his room with a snivel. A slight cold.
I don't know of course but he died within months of starting the chemo. Radiotherapy massively reduced the brain tumor, but it feels like all the chemo did was reduce him to living, biological waste.

btt I heard Vitamin C infusions and artificial fevers (hot, full-body baths) are extremely helpful against cancer. I think if I ever get diagnosed, this will be part of my effort to regain health.

I recommend sleeping 24/7 it’s the only way to be safe

>>507817945 (OP)
Cancer is parasites. Chemo just makes the environment better for them, so basically the cancer gets worse.

>>507817945 (OP)
You should get surgery first. Even though they won’t tell you that.

>>507824096
i already megadose vitamin c, bought a 5lb bag years ago

>>507823991
i'm starting to think this hayflick fella is a real jerk

>>507824388
I hope you eat plenty of fresh fruit, anon. Pure ascorbic acid can be harmful if it doesn't align with your everyday diet.

>>507821857
Cancer cure is already known but no doctor will speak of it to you because they aren't needed for it.

One is fasting as most cancer cells can't metabolize ketons but depend on carbs so you not eating anything will basicly starve them to death.
Second one is getting your temp to above if I remember correctly 39 degrees celsius for prolonged time as in getting malaria for example.

It's speculated that's why african population have lower cancer rates, cancer cells can hide from your immune system if your body temp is normal but after certain threshold cells to survive need defense against heat and cancer cells basicly sell themselves out to your immune system.

So yes, boosting your immune system is also important that is getting enough sun/vit d3 aswell as other macronutrients.

Does any cancer doctor tell about it? None, zero, fuck all of them for every person they kill in name of big pharma treatments

>>507817945 (OP)
Its fine in lower doses, the state of the art is platinum based chemo with immunotherapy. The chemo agitates the tumors and therefore your supercharged t cells get rid of the rest

>>507822836
Cutting your tumor out is probably something I would absolutely never undergo no matter fucking what. If they cut out 100% of it, cool, you are good to go.

If not? Body rushes all nutrients to this place to heal it, guess what happens to left over cancer cells? They get basicly boosted building blocks for them. That's why you often hear: oh he head tumor, they removed it and somehow it spread through whole body and he is dead. Yeah no shit sherlock.
The more you know the more you cannot hate those crooks enough.

>>507823541
Religious retards will never accept this. That's okay, let them die off. No more wars for Israel without them.

>>507824519
if it was this simple they wouldnt have let stevejobs die

>>507823312
Not everybody has to be in on it. Systematic deception doesn't require elaborate orchestration.

>>507817945 (OP)
Not all cancers require chemo (not required if they can surgically remove all the cancer) The purpose is to kill any remaining cancer cells or shrink it down to a more manageable size, there are hundreds of different chemo agents, some target specific cancers, they all have side-effects and will also damage healthy cells.

>>507825030
Yet it is, nothing I said is not known by the ones studying it but none of the things mentioned benefit big pharma so they don't fund and promote studies that make their cure as the number 1. Seriously, start digging yourself, it's absolutely horrible how corrupt the system is.

>>507820766
who the hell is Steve Jobs?

>>507825030
Steve Jobs was such a clown, he had a rare pancreatic cancer that was easily treatable, like the only pancreatic cancer that is treatable, but he opted for some dumb meme alternative treatment by a quack and got ack'd.

>>507818658
check out royal rife device, you can destroy any matter with targeted frequency resonance

>>507825460
I think he signed the Declaration of Independence

>>507825652
Complete quackery, there are real ultrasound obliterators called histotripsy thats aproved for use by the fda

After seeing what it does to a person, I really don't think I even want to know if I have cancer. What's the point in getting chemo if you're going to spend your last year of life puking your guts out and laying miserably in a bed unable to do anything? Die a skeleton after enduring torture... I'd rather liquidate and just wing the rest.

>>507820766
>>507825460
Didn't Steve Jobs die "from cancer" just after starting chemotherapy?
lol

>>507818293
You don't get "Treated" for rabies. You just die. Like 100% of the time There have only been a handful of survivors documented ever in all of recorded history, and they were never normal again.

>>507817945 (OP)
Redpill on what. The idea of chemo is simple, cancer cells require a lot more energy than every other cells. You heavily poison yourself in hopes to kill cancer before the poison kills you. It's crude, inefficient but it does sometimes work. It's basically throwing a MOAB on the neighborhood because your neighbor has a roach problem.

>>507825725
>aproved for use by the fda
>aproved
so its shit, gotcha m8 - remember to booster

>>507817945 (OP)
Unironically methadone. There were once a few miracle cures in Germany and the cancer league even financed a study. But then I never heard anything about it again.

>>507818293
They did that around 1900. The idea is that an active immune system can recognize and attack cancer.

>>507818353
Correction it's 5 years AFTER it's considered gone. A lot of if not most cancers don't kill you in 5 years, e.g., prostate. This is also the reason they stop screening for prostate cancer after you're 70 because there's simply no point, your life expectancy is lower than even the most aggressive version of prostate cancers.

>>507817945 (OP)
>take poison to hopefully kill the cancer first
>repeat until cancer dies or you do
fun

>>507825030
Steve Jobs like everyone else are just useful idiots to those at the top and they have no problem sacrificing them.

>>507817945 (OP)
>trial and error back when doctors had discretion to do personalized 'anecdotal' trials/experiments
>first leaps in treatment begin in WW1 trench chemical warfare, and it inducing blood conditions (leukemias are the most treatable/actually curable as a result)

Tumor metabolism's glutamate based in a large spectrum of cases, fasting autophagy, Vitamin C & hydrogen water, dogshit poison in food and water ... there's too much to go into. But there's still good science being done with cancer treatments that work-- the trick is 5 year mortality and most healthcare spent in end of life care (and Boomers - after Coof & jabbings - dropping the American Life Expectancy for the first time recently)

>>507821777
>checked

The trouble with chemo-immuno suppresion is the oncologists not having the latitude to adjust the treatment schedules according to their blood panels (and those measuring relevant white cells & platelets being expensive), especially if they're participating in studies for the kickbacks on certain treatment things. I opted out to retain that discretion and could easily have seen three or four bad potential outcomes without that option.

>>507824388
>you have to have a doctor inject vitamin c

>>507824096
>btt I heard Vitamin C infusions and artificial fevers (hot, full-body baths) are extremely helpful against cancer. I think if I ever get diagnosed, this will be part of my effort to regain health.
That's quite literally the opposite of truth. The thing with cancer, there are ways to prevent it. There are diabetes drugs that have shown that if they are regularly consumed they greatly reduce the likelyhood of getting cancer. But nothing works once cancer has already bypassed your immune system and managed to create a foothold. You can't starve out the cancer, yes keto diet works to PREVENT cancer but it can't starve out the cancer. Cancers can create new vascular systems to sap nutrients from the body. Only reason chemo works is because of how inefficient cancer cells are compared to regular cells. However, there seems to be a possibility of new treatment on the horizon. There seems to be a new treatment on a horizon, it's injecting you cancer with the only other known cell that actually uses more resources than cancer and that's brown fat. In mice studies, it's been noticed that when brown fat is activated (body is in 16C environment) brown fat outcompetes cancer and greatly shrinks it. Also because it's fat there's no risk of rejection if we started injecting tumors with brown fat.

>>507825652
very hit and miss. Cancer cells, at least Myaloma also tend to multiply more with excess electricity passed through them.

>>507826769
>at least Myaloma also tend to multiply more with excess electricity passed through them.
I'm genuinely curious what all the SpaceX satellites bombarding down on the 2.4-4mm frequencies will end up creating health issues with.

Celltowers in the sky, what can go wrong lads

Been studying naturopathy and holistic practice for decades. Fruits, berries, melons and proprietary herbs are the cure to every chronic degenerative disease. Dr Robert Morse (morses.tv) has the answers. It’s very real.. cancer, aids.. it’s all curable in the botanical kingdom.

>>507817945 (OP)

Cancer isn’t difficult to cure. Get your kidneys filtering the accumulated lymphatic waste build up from eating all the wrong foods. Fruit only diet cures cancer.

unironically poison and the funny part is boomers pay like two hundred grand over here for "treatment" all this cancer shit is just a way so boomers will sell there houses to the younger generations and recycle all there assets back into the economy

>>507825908
This isn’t true. He was clearly talking about vaccination against rabies. But the virus’s lethality and transmissibility is very open ended. Hydrophobia is entirely psychosomatic, the first ever case of rabies just happened to be decades after WW2 and the subsequent judeo-science cult growth, for two examples, but you didn’t even think about that. If a person comes in with rabies-like symptoms and an animal bite story, regardless of diagnoses, they will be retroactively told it “can’t be rabies” when they survive ESPECIALLY if it’s without mainstream medical treatment. This happens every year. Of course, if you Google it (like you did) you get 6 million results telling you it’s a wondervirus (lol, lmao)
I’ve been there my friend. Only reason I’m being rough on you. Do not vaccinate your children; thank me later.

>>507817945 (OP)
> Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?
Accepting your own mortality and the inevitability of death, in doing so, seize on the opportunity to grapple directly with fate; rather than running from it, or having it sneak up on you unaware.

It’s that or poisoning yourself into miserable agony for the off chance at prolonging the inevitable. Just do whichever sounds healthier.

>>507817945 (OP)
Well, your body becomes a chemical toilet and your hair falls out. They give it a cutsie name like "chemo" as 8f it were some dumb whore tik tok challenge

>>507817945 (OP)
>something is killing you
>we can give you something that kills what is killing you
>It might also kill you , but slower than what is killing you because we try to kill it inside your body
>also please pay us thousands of dollars.

unless it is really early, you prolly better to ride out the cancer, ngl.

>>507817945 (OP)
>how bad is it
very. but it is its "badness" what confers it its healing capacity. you *will* be poisoned by it, and feel awful. it is the only reliable method of survival.
>true purpose?
to save your sorry butt from certain death
>any other treatments
not really, fenbendaloze (sp) and ivermectin has shown some efficacy when combined with chemo, but results are really variable, and it quite frankly depends on the situation. many, many people see no increased medical efficacy over chemo and other traditional methods on their own, but miracles are possible.

you okay anon?

literally all you have to do is go keto for a few months until the cancer dies. chemo is poison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vYxOztmmfM

>>507830645
dont listen to this person. listen to your oncologist.

>>507830747
yeah trust the le science

My grandpa chose death instead of doing chemo again so it has to be pretty shitty.

>>507830825
in this case, unironically. there are also exist targeted gene therapies that can eliminate the cancer, but you have to be willing to be a guinea pig, which, when compared to death is an easy choice.
keto wont cut it on its own, and if it does, we categorize that as a miracle.

Ivermectin+fenbendazol people have yet to prove that it doesn't work. Do it along side chemo. Do everything.

>>507830982
there is no "proving it doesnt work", it works sometimes, but rather rarely.
i am in agreement with you that you should do everything you can and are comfortable with, in this situation.

>>507823302
Eh close, chemo is not precise. Chemo often interferes will replication, so the cell dies or is told to suicide. All cells are affected by chemo but the hope is that the most rapidly diving cells take up more of the drug, and die faster/first.
Some cancers can even turn off the immune checkpoints on the cell surface so that it becomes invisible to the host immune system and can't be detected

>>507830559
The issue with cancer is that it's not really a disease that can be cured. It's functional issue in your body which immune system does not recognize. Best way to cure all forms of cancer would be technology that allows immune system to detect it.

>>507817945 (OP)
Put it this way, it's so bad, if I get told I have cancer I'd rather die of that than waste the few remaining months or years that cancer hasn't made life a living hell.
Chemo makes your hair fall out, you feel shitty for months/years and cannot do life things properly until after the treatment and to top it off, it sometimes doesn't even fucking work so you wind up wasting the time where you weren't even that fucking sick to begin with going in and out of hospital for regular treatment.

I'm sure the hospital loves it though, they get to employ more staff and get a big payout for each person treated, and if it doesn't work? oopsie you died of cancer (not the shit treatment not working!).

>>507831255
It depends what cancer you have. Some cancers are highly treatable with the 99% of patients still alive after 5 years.

>>507831244
correct, its more akin to a dysfunction than a disease, be it bacterial or viral.
i have seen many serious strides made in "curing" it, in my lifetime, i pray we keep making progress.

>>507823991
>>507823638
>>507823302
Interesting. So, where does stem cells come into the picture?
Can we actually figure out how to allow these cells to divide for twice as long, effectively allowing people to live up to 200 years?

>>507817945 (OP)
for some people it works. it's still toxic chemicals. i wouldn't tell someone not to do it but i wouldn't recommend it. you're probably going to die from the cancer anyway. might as well just get it over with instead prolonging your misery.

>>507818293
Tumors disappear for no reason all the time. People have cancerous tumors all the time that just disappear again. Your anecdote doesn't prove that the rabies treatment works to remove tumors even if everything you say is true.

>>507817945 (OP)
Do you have people and a life you care about?
You should change your eating habits potentially, try to stay mildly active and do chemo. Chemo sucks man theres no curr for cancer but chemo sometimes adds months or years to peoples lives.
If you have a life and people worth doing especially if you are a father do it.
Be a man and deal with whatever pain will come with it
Ultimately deaths coming for you and the last days will be painful

>>507817945 (OP)
They say apricot seeds kills cancer

>>507817945 (OP)
the cure to cancer is fasting indefinitely, until the cancer is gone. starve your self to the brink of death and your body will eat the cancer

>>507817945 (OP)
Nigger cancer is a parasite that gets put inside you when you are born. If you are a poor retard that cannot afford quality food, less stress, not smokin like a chimney because of said stress, not taking care of yourself, etc, that parasite starts to grow inside you. That dewormer for dogs should do the trick. All along with basically taking care of yourself and stop stressing about all the shits around in this world. In my house we do not give a fuck about anything. You should all do the same. Stress is the killer. Nothing else. Plus you are all getting this placed inside you by your own minds. Just don’t give a fuck.

>>507831392
don't all men on a long enough time line have some form of testicular cancer? like most 80+ year old men are walking around with cancer ridden junk, but it's not that which kills them first, always some other disease or natural/unnatural cause. either way, in this life, I am avoiding chemo. Maybe I risk surgery or do nothing about it whatsoever.

>>507831766
This too, fasting is a way to make it go. I have done a fasting for 1 month. Only eating like a pinch of bread every now and then and drinling plenty of water. My body became nine million times stronge. If I survived that, nothing could beat me while I got food in my huge bear belly that hits your mothers head while she sucks me off

>>507831991
>>507831766
you die of insufficiency

>>507831766
>>507831991
this will not help in the way you both characterize. chemo will do most, if not all of the heavy lifting.

Depends from person to person but side effects are usually shit. It's used when your tumour is inoperable, needs to be reduced in size for surgery (neoadjuvant therapy) or is metastasized (you're basically fucked and chemo is used to prolong your life).
There are other treatments but most of them haven't be trialled on a mass scale yet and cost so much they probably won't be accessible to public with our shitty failing health care (most optimistic being gene therapy and immunotherapy treatments).
>>507825782
No, the retard died because he stalled for a like year trying some alternative hocus pocus medicine like homeopathy so by the time he decided to have the treatment it was over.

>>507832325
the implication is fasting would be applied as an alternative to chemo, not both.
i think it is a matter of just how far the cancer has spread already, and whether you have the aggressive or weaker variant. I can't imagine there is anything to heal stage 5 prostate cancer

>>507832534
*4

>>507817945 (OP)
Depends on the type of cancer (and its stage and characteristics) and chemo drug, there are dozens of chemo drugs.
Standard old chemo is surpassed at this point and the one still used will become more and more less used and replaced by "biological" drugs (target therapy).
Fasting is a meme, same for stupid shit like ivermectine and similar cospiracy theory meme medicine.

My uninformed suspicion is that by engaging in regular intermittent fasting, limiting carbohydrate intake, and doing heavy barbell training can greatly reduce the risk of cancer, as well as all the modern day chronic diseases.

Pretty much everything seems to be heavy influenced by insulin resistance from eating sloppa, and just simply eating all the time. We evolved to binge and fast, and not to graze.

Caveman kill animal. Cavemen eat 10k calories. Cavemen no eat tomorrow.

>>507817945 (OP)
My old man had bowel cancer.
It spread to his liver and a few other places.
Surgery + Chemo fixed him up.
That was about 20 years ago.

It's a necessary treatment but it doesn't always work.

>>507832534
sure, but id be hesitant to rely on fasting as a means to save yourself. autophagy only goes so far, even in the most treatable cases.

progression is the most important variable in treating cancer, youre correct on that.
i experienced a miracle with my uncle, who pulled through with only a 5-10% chance of survival; he only discovered it when his shoulder blade popped out of place from the tumors. i know that he's not supposed to still be here, but managed and is in okay shape all things considered.

a decent addition to traditional treatment, and in my opinion the most effective, is exercise. as soon as your doctor clears you for any physical activity whatsoever, walks/light jogs outside in the sunlight and fresh air, are going to help you. as soon as youre cleared for jogging/light running, do it. then move up to light/full running.
i feel that was the only thing that saved him, but again, my story is anecdotal; he was *toast*, and very ill, even under treatment.

>>507833106
running is fucking retarded compared to squats and deadlifts.

>>507833197
not when youre with stage 4 cancer. i stand firm on what i said.

>>507833106
>he only discovered it when his shoulder blade popped out of place from the tumors
that's fun to think about
congratulations on your uncle beating it, must be quite an inspiration
if it was me i, excercise would definitely be on my mind, as usual. i would just keep walking all day

>>507833329
>have cancer
>be wasting away
>favor catabolic activities over anabolic
?

>>507833197
my uncle did this, he had the cancer coming back all the time until it killed him after a couple years. but maybe he was just too much of a pussy unlike the other anon's uncle, or just unlucky. his case was quite severe though, brain cancer that eventually spread to his lungs

>>507833466
it looked like the dorsal fin on a shark, according to my aunt. he beat it almost 25 years ago. still going strong.
stay healthy anon, gonna head off, its technically morning already, and i have to get up early

>>507833561
its not that simple.
when youre wasting to such a degree as you do in stage 4, even mild physical activity will build you up.
combine the walking/jogging/running with a full as possible diet, and you will make strides against the wasting you would suffer sitting in a bed waiting it out.
i have no reason to lie to you, or mislead you.
off to bed with me

>>507821777
>but no one even talks about it because people are too scared to face the reality that we don't really know how to treat cancer.

We actually do know how to treat cancer and have for 90 years, the actual reality of the situation that people are too afraid to face is that our medical industry is actually killing people on purpose and is there to steal all your money while it does

>>507817945 (OP)
>How bad is it?
Dreadful.
>What is the true purpose of chemo?
Agonizing death and obfuscation.
>Are there any other treatments they refuse to acknowledge?
Antiparasitic/fungal protocols. Cancer is in 9/10 cases a consequence of parasitosis: critters feast on/in their host, ptocreate, defecate and die. Some form cysts to avoid immune response (e.g.: echinococcus multilocularis), others are trapped inside cysts by the immune system in a bid to limit the damage.

>>507834944
>>507827180

>>507817945 (OP)
>What is the true purpose of chemo?
last resort choice on attempt to inflating the bill to its limits before the poor soul passes away

hospitals are evil nests

>>507835175
>Ivermectin
The whole telemarketing gayop of the past five years hinged on technicality. E.g.:
>spike protein
What else can be described as vaguely spiky clumps of protein? Parasites.

Arsenic Trioxide is used in some chemo "drugs". Arsenic Trioxide is also used to pressure treat wood. It costs a boat load in the chemo format and basically nothing for wood treatment. >>507821101
>Cancer is cells that mutated because of tumorous masses which appeared because the body is failing to deal with some form of chronic damage
Given the medical industry claims not to know 100% why people get cancer it is interesting you are so sure this is why.

>>507824096
>btt I heard Vitamin C infusions
Vitamin C is an antioxidant. Vitamin C shuts down detox. Cancer is a result of decades of failed detox because of high amounts of toxins we now consume as well as shutting it down with things like C. Maybe in the short term C will help, but longer term it is working against you.

>>507818293
>Getting infected with a very strong virus like rabies.
Viruses are not real.

>>507819780
My grandfather smoked at least 2 joints a day his entire life and still died of cancer. Badly.

>>507817945 (OP)
My mum said she just wanted to die when she was on it (she was terminal). Everytime I visited her she was vomitting. Shit sucks.