>Sir, your donut costs $10
>Here anon, take this bar of gold and cut $10 of it

Why the fuck are boomer fags so annoying with these shiny rocks? They do not serve any purpose, are not limited and are extremely overinflated in value

>>507836538 (OP)
If you ever read anything about history of money, you would gold and metals were used exactly because it is easy to cut 10$ out of gold bar you uneducated retard.

Currency is just a middle man. Why not cut out a middle man? You know, cut out a bank?

>>507836596
>>507836615
BITCOIN SOLVES THIS /POL/ ANONS

>>507836538 (OP)

Boomer Toomers and "fellow whites" and NPCs all understood the price tag of everything but the values of nothing, Anon

TBTD (Total Boomer Toomer Death)

TKD

TFYFWD (Total "fellow white" death)

Etc etc

>>507836538 (OP)
Gold is harder than diamonds op, your right this is retarded never buy gold poorfag.

>>507836710
Sure it does when there's no electricity.

>>507836596
The history of gold as money never revolved around its valuation in dollars. You are fucking retarded.

>>507836538 (OP)
>>507836710
>>507836722
These are jews

>>507836710
yeah.
precisely in war times when there is no even electricity

>Stocks crashing
>Bitcoin stagnant and crashing
>Cash more worthless by the day
Gold fags have won. I have shat on them for a long time but in the end they were right.

>>507836538 (OP)
Au, or 'gold' has a lot of uses within the aeronautics, aerospace, and weaponry, as well as nearly all electronics, dipshit.

>>507836710
Bitcoin is also a currency with fake value just like all money. Imagine an MMO where your gold or wealth is nothing but numbers on a screen. Completely artificial and the value is because someone says so. Imagine an admin having a bad day and he’s like “I’m gonna put a one in front of all these zeroes.” But why stop there? He doesn’t need the money when he can just spawn gear.

>>507836538 (OP)
So you want the fuckin joooooooowe to own all of it?

>>507836538 (OP)
Somehow a $10 donut isn't the problem, it's using the currency people have used for thousands of years, that's the real problem.

>>507836615
>>507836596
>>507836538 (OP)


The problem is just a private owned bank (jew invention).
There should be 1 bank, state owned 100%. It should be giving its citizens loans with 0% interest (which is jew invention anyways and root of all economic problems and catastrophes in the last few millenia), it should just work as a tool for the society to advance, where you have a possibility to get loan for business. to buy property it should be different - you get the property in your name and pay monthly to the bank (kinda like paying back the credit, because you OWN the property, before you even paid it fully - small changes in the legislature)

only option which benefits the population and not the banks (the jews)

>>507836538 (OP)
Year 2000
>Sir your burger costs x grams of your gold bar
Year 3000
>Sir your burger costs x grams of your gold bar

>>507836538 (OP)
low iq post you use silver coins for small purchases

>>507836596
>history of money
Vae victis
Is the history of money fool

>>507836538 (OP)
>>507836596
before coins they used to have these wire bracelets, and would cut off the amount of gold or silver wire to make a purchase

>>507836894
>>507836918
>>507836920
>>507837009
SHILLS

How is the Jewish banking system any better than bitcoin?

How is the Jewish banking system any more resilient to loss of electricity than Bitcoin?

>>507836710
>JOIN MY ELECTRONICAL SCAM
Lol.

>>507836596
if you'd read it, you'd know economies devolved into barter because people couldn't decide how much a gold coin was worth without a central authority capable of enforcing their value

>>507837246
Why have any currency? Currency is Jewish. Money is a middle man like a Jewish merchant.

>>507836538 (OP)
If the shit hits the fan, you'll be able to trade 10 gold bars for a donut
stock up on dried rice and beans and sell it to gold fags when they figure out they can't eat gold

2020
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $2
2021
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $3
2022
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $4
2023
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $6
2024
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $10
2025
>wage is $15/h
>sir you donut costs $15

>>507837246
What do you think which one will be more efficient to crush your fag skull in those time;
a heavy metal brick
>or
a promise about a virtually existing wealth on a chinese plastic pen drive?

>>507836538 (OP)
That bar is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars shillboy. Obviously nobody is going to use that for daily transactions. You'd have silver coins that equated to $10, $20, $50 or whatever and possibly copper rounds or something for smaller increments. It isn't a revolutionary idea, in fact it's how humanity operated for most of our fucking history.
>>507836710
Retard.

>>507837065
>private owned bank
every single "bank" is a communist structure. No centralist religious freak show calling itself "state", no banks, no demand for their "service"

>>507837428
I live in reality, where you can choose between:

>banking system where money goblins control your wealth
>Bitcoin where you control your wealth, as a part of the greatest p2p electronic cash network on Earth

>>507837392
great idea anon you could call it "bartering"

Gold/silver/platinum have a ton of uses.

Like allowing your stupid fucking subhuman ass to type all this dumb shit low IQ crap on 4chan for example.

Wanna try using 4chan without a circuit board?

Well, you need gold, silver, and platinum for that.

>>507836538 (OP)
I’ll buy every bit of gold at donut weight = $10

>>507837408
>If the shit hits the fan
Not in the USA.

>>507836538 (OP)
if you're in a situation where you're buying and selling using gold i doubt dippin donuts is still around

>>507836538 (OP)
>Why the fuck are boomer fags so annoying with these shiny rocks? They do not serve any purpose, are not limited and are extremely overinflated in value
You don't seem to understand the fundamentals of "what is money?".
We have a thread like this every week, if not every day.

Let me put in a way that makes sense, even to retards :
So you think FIAT money, aka paper money has more instrisic value than gold?
You think a 10$ bill has more of a "purpose" than an actual precious metal like gold that has actual applications and is highly desired?

The only reason paper bills and virtual dollars have value is because everyone agrees and plays along, with the state enforcing the value of their own money, by force if necessary.

Gold doesn't work like that.
Gold is always valuable.
There's plenty of applications for gold, from jewelry to electronics, but that's not the point.
The point is that gold is used to STORE VALUE THROUGH TIME.
That's the key.
So people like of OP need to ask themeselves : "What is the function of money" fundamentaly speaking.
Yes, money is used as medium for exchange, but the other function is to "store value through time".
If I'm a farmer, and sell potatoes, I need to transfer the value of my potaoes into money, because after a while food spoils, so it doesn't keep its value through time.
That's an essential function of money.

Gold's main strength is exactly that.
Gold has always been highly valuable, throughout the vast majority of time and geography.
Gold was a valuable 3000 years ago and it will still be highly valuable 3000 years from now or even 30 000 years from now.

So that's the reason Gold is so popular, it's because precious metals are considered among the safest of investments.
It's a very limited ressource with a steady and predictable flow of new gold with adds 2% to the total amount of gold every year, making it incredibly steady.

That's why Gold is Based.

Even brown people can do it

>>507836538 (OP)
If only there was a way to shape them into thin cylinders with fixed values. You could even stamp the value on the gold. We can make the edges ridged to prevent jewish tricks. I call this invention a "coin".

OP why do you have an IQ that is lower than sub sahara africans?

>>507836538 (OP)
ever hear about hacksilver?

>>507836710
>Sir, your donut costs $10
>Here anon, provide me with an inturdnet connection and buy a computer, then register with the jew to get yourself a digital wallet and an exchange that links to your jewish federal reserve voucher bank account and then devote a year studying blockchain so you understand the mechanism and don't get scammed, and then create a digital invoice so i can calculate how many meme coins $10 is and lets agree on your preferred unit of memecoin and then I'll digitally verify the transaction with my crypto login security key and then you can wait for the bank to give you $10 but I want donut now.

Why are millenials such faggots for jewish toys and gimmicks?
>muh. Boomers don't even go everywhere with their iphone. They're so backwards man!

>>507836538 (OP)
>extremely overinflated in value
it's your piece of paper that's losing value.
The shiny rock has pretty much the same value.

>>507836538 (OP)
That's what silver coins are for.

Money is the perfect filter for pretentious midwits. People who claim that money is not worth anything are extremely retarded yet they think they are doing some sort of profound analysis. Learn Austrian economics school, retards, especially Menger.

>>507836710

Bitcoin is just another vapid investment tool with no real value that has been co opted by mainstream bankers as Way for people to invest their money in anything but real commodities, which would drive inflation

>>507836955
do aerospace and weaponry fags have food to trade? 60iq nigger retard

>>507837422
If your wage is $15 an hour in 2025 you should kys McDonalds pays $18 an hour starting

>>507837232
I think i saw this at that archeology museum in dublin

>>507838536
>Muh slide thread
>Never mentions what is being slid off the board

>>507836538 (OP)
>Don't buy this solid thing
>Buy my fart in the wind
>If you don't buy it my ponzi scheme will collapse

>>507837065
>There should be 1 bank, state owned 100%
Yes.
>It should be giving its citizens loans with 0% interest
No. Central Bank shouldn't loan anybody anything. Central Bank should print money. That's all. Every citizen should have account in central bank. If central bank prints money these money should be equally transfered to all citizens accounts.

Citizens are free to open banks and loan and borrow money. But one condition. No fractional reserve loans. You have $100, you can loan no more than $100.

>>507841862
However strictly controlled it all starts out inevitably someone will show up who will say "but you know what, maybe we lower reserves to 85% and look how fast the economy line will go up on the charts! sure there were problems before but we know more now and we're ready to deal with any issues as they arise" and then you got another cycle of same old shit.

>>507840122
you can still make soup from the bog man

>>507842209
>but you know what, maybe we lower reserves to 85% and look how fast the economy line will go up on the charts!
If you want more money supply Central Bank is just free to print more money and economy line will go up on the charts!

That is key point. Fractional reserve banking is money printing. Money printing should be absolute monopoly of the Central Bank, and all printed money should go directly to the pocket of the citizens, equal shares.

>>507841862
>have 100 $, loan 100$, get 110$ back + costs
>no real benefit, earned 10$

why do people still excuse interest? it is retarded to even try to give an argument which supports it. unless you are a jew and your brain is corrupted by moloch/devil. which too is retarded but on another level

>>507837246
bitcoin became part of the jewish banking system you fucking retarded cunt

>>507843634
how? you stupid fucking coward

>>507843327
>i lend you $1000
>if i had left that money in stocks it would be worth $1070 at the end of the year
>at the end of the year you give me back $1000
>because of inflation the money has the purchase power of $930 compared to the $1000 i gave you

>>507836538 (OP)
>what is silver

>>507836710
>sir your donut costs 10 $
>>uhm yeah sure, lemme just wait here for an hour to send you the 0,000000001 bitcoin needed to pay for the transaction.
>sir, just hand me a 10 $ bill please. fractional silver is accepted aswell
>uh no, i don't subscribe to shiny rocks and FIAT MONEY SCAM, i'd rather wait an hour and pay 20 $ in transaction cost on top

>>507845322
>sir you cannot make this withdrawal from your bank account?
>>uhm, why not?
>because we said so
meanwhile bitcoin
>*sends transaction*

>>507836894
If the world has gone so far to shit that there is no electricity, i will not pay for anything. I am an armed man in an unarmed society. I will be a king.

>>507845469
>>507844867

>Sir, your donut costs $10
>Here anon, take this cow and cut $10 of it

>>507836710
>CBDC SOLVES THIS
thats what you meant

>>507837009
You just described ach/fiat retard
Btc is the exact opposite of that

Goldbugs are a funny breed. The whole thing is disingenuous as fuck,
They say they're just protecting their wealth, yet everyone is for some reason waiting for a massive gold bubble priced in fiat currency. Definitely not so they can unload their gold and buy a lambo.
If people want to know whether metals will be used, just look at Argentina. They've been in huge inflation for ages and people still don't want to use metals at all.
They'll tell you to fuck off if you try to pay with gold or silver. Selling it for fiat will make you take like a 50% premium hit.
When society actually reaches a point where gold is used for currency, that's such a big SHTF situation that you'll be better off peddling food or bullets than metal.
Treat metals like any other investment and you're good.
Apply any lofty ideology to it and you'll be paying big in terms of opportunity cost, as your gold does nothing 99% of the time and then goes into a short bubble every 30 years.
You can absolutely time that market.

>>507844818
nonexistent problem in my solution above. also, there is a clear distinction between investing in stocks and lending.

this is, has been, and always will be the only real currency.
convert all your resources now.

>>507836538 (OP)
The Nazis extracted gold from the teeth of Jews.

>>507836538 (OP)
>yes, goy! Only uncool boomers own useless gold or silver! All the good goys own shekelbergstein trademarked all-digital eurodollars at shekelbergstein bank!

>>507837246
Kike shill. Gold doesn't disappear when the power goes out.

>>507839724
Is this coin thing the trickery you do in Zurich nowadays, Helmut?

>>507846535
The worst part about holding physical assets like gold is that they can be stolen by niggers or confiscated by big nose governments

>>507836538 (OP)
it comes in dust also

>>507836538 (OP)

>muh boomers
fail
no 25¢ for you

>>507836538 (OP)
what donut costs $10?

>>507836538 (OP)
As opposed to magical e-money or a fucking paper.

>>507837325
Using gold in transactions is barter, retard.

>>507848005
Your mum's

it would be pretty easy to cut a gram or an ounce out of gold. you could probably do it with a sharp knife if its pure.

>>507840122
>>507842235
This Geodude needs a Max Revive.

>>507848728
based GO player

>>507836538 (OP)
You're impressively stupid if you think precious metals have no use outside their monetary value.
Thanks for letting us know you have the education of a 12 year old.

>>507836907
No shit you retard the fact that it is easily divisible is part of why it was considered money you kike

>>507840122
I've been there as well, very cool museum

>>507838097

aaaaaaaahaha get a load of this retarded boomer wearing LITERAL jew-brand ugly 80s piece of shit on his fat unaesthetic wrist, what an idiot haha

>>507836538 (OP)
Nice color

>>507836538 (OP)
>reductio ad absurdum
>meme flag
See, now this is how we know you're a jew.
You don't want anyone else having a go at your jew gold, so you try to make it sound useless as well as clumsy to use
You want us on the fake "digital currency" slave plantation
Digital currency - it's just electronic coupons with an arbitrary expiration date
So no saving wealth, goy, and you will participate in a system you loathe whether you want to or not - like a good little tax cow - because "use it or lose it".
"Money" is whatever people assign value to. PM's are genuine "money" because their refinement into a useable state requires "sweat equity" - the value is intrinsic.
And, since they are forged in the heart of a dying star, that's pretty fuckin cool...
You don't buy bricks of gold, kike
You buy silver in pre-vetted known denominations. Gold as well but not nearly as much.
Truly wealthy people in history had about 10,000 ounces of silver to their credit. That's 625 pounds.
We don't have that much, but we're trying.

>>507836710
>BITCOIN SOLVES THIS /POL/ ANONS
You cannot use memecoin as a currency
Memecoin is not stable
You cannot have a functional economy where the currency you are using is worth X one day and then X+50000 the next day.
You need something that will be worth, generally, the same thing it was yesterday, and the day before, and the day before....

>>507837232
>before coins they used to have these wire bracelets, and would cut off the amount of gold or silver wire to make a purchase
FerFal went though the Argentinian collapse they jews put them through 20-some years ago.
He did something similar.
Bought old 10k and 14k necklaces. If they needed groceries, he took a small bit of the necklace and a pair of nippers with him.
Haggle over price, clip off the number of links you need. They were weighed, assayed and then he went home.
If he got robbed, he would not be out his entire stash...

>>507851008
>Digital currency - it's just electronic coupons with an arbitrary expiration date

What a GOY! Don't you know that the value in Bitcoin is solving evermore complex algorithmic mathematical puzzle in exchange for US dorrars?!?

You think Buttcoin wouldn't pump past 100k if it wasn't for its main intermediary and vacuum cleaner for peoples real-world money aka USDT?? What a COPE.

>>507837065
you need some commonly accepted means of payment for a society to interact marketwise. preferably unfalsifiable and unclippable. and there's the problem, as it deals with malintention, something that shouldn't exist. someone would have to create and issue the common means of payment. in an advanced homogenous society you could use a completely intangible version, like electronic balance. many good ideas around on how to do economy, alas all utopia for as long as there are parasites. and a long way from here back to homogenous anyway. fucking kikes.

>>507851420
Zdravo prijatelju
I do not speak Croatian. Just paying you respect. My people are from nearby - Elbe Germans. It has been a long time since I set foot in your part of the world...
When you can invent infinite electronic currency on a whim, it can hardly be said to have value. And that kind of power will breed corruption on a level not seen in human history.
And it will be in the hands of jew bankster fuckheads.
Sorry. No.

>>507836538 (OP)
>>507836710

>>507836615
Then you'd have to factor trust into business once again. My word is my bond. Something which is critically lacking in modern society.

>>507851917
Jews are a low trust race of kid-fucking parasites
Europeans are largely high-trust.
Jews are incompatible with Western Civilization.
Just look what we have had to do to our coins to keep them from fucking with them - an entire methodology mapped out and special machines constructed to make marks on the edges of coins - simply to keep them from being parasitic anal worms and not fucking over the rest of civilization

>>507851973

WTF COINLET DETECTED!

>>507851917
i never said anything against money, since it is ok invention since there are now too many people in the world and gold is quite scarce. but there should be no possibility of printing money when not even an ounce of gold is brought into the (state owned) bank-reserve (i.e. the country/society had a good year and can afford to increase their (communal) wealth)

>>507836538 (OP)
>They do not serve any purpose
gold and silver and mercury
are keys to free energy devices
this is why jews hoard on it so much
to prevent any white person of having enough
to rebiuld atmosphere free energy gathering devices.
now you know

>>507852475
>COINLET DETECTED!
XD
You know where they keep the world's gold?
Mostly under the big national banks. NY City. I know of some in Switzerland.
But the biggest surprise I have learned in my life is about half the world's gold - set aside for the sake of humanity itself: we're talking trillions of dollars worth of physical gold - is in the Philippines.
Yes, really. Thousands of tons of the stuff. Underground. The jew bankster fuckheads know it's there - they refuse to release any of it and they trade on it among themselves.
>But how can they do that??!
Remember when the Germans wanted their gold back a few years ago? They sent a guy to New York to get it back.
Things went quiet for a day or two, and then the Germans went on TV and said it was a misunderstanding and they trust the bankers...

>>507836538 (OP)
>meme flag shilling against gold

Gold prices about to jump up

What's stopping people from putting a similarly dense material inside of a bar of gold and just having the outer layer be real? Like sure if you're selling kilo bars they probably xray or whatever, but small 10-50g bars aren't going to be cracked to look in the middle surely?

>>507836710
Jewish currency, anon.

>>507837065
While you're at it, why not make it a tax-funded bank where the gouvernment has no social programmes and only charges a 1% general tax, and legal citizens can apply for 0-interest loans from that tax bank if they wanna organise a social programme, and you put the military in charge of the vetting?
Let's go crazy and come up with more fun and crazy ideas.

>>507836538 (OP)
>rock
Looks forged. Not a rock, dumbass.

>>507853315
The chinese do this with tungsten already.
Chinese are basically yellow jews.
Very low trust.

>>507849722
If you can't tell why he is retarded then you are just as retarded as him. Actually worse because you still felt the urge to reply despite being just as retarded as him.
Retard.

Boomers are often aweful to other people due to their spoiled upbringings. Theirs videos of ww2 and gen zones admitting on camera that they personally fkd up raising the (boomer) children and they worried for the future.
I'm utterly unsuprised. I worked my ass off only to get nowhere in every job I was in. Why? Boomers that won't retire, boomers gate keeping jobs or industries with over regulation .Heck alot of them can't even be pleasant. Take my boomer father for example. If you don't work 60 hours a week according to him your unemployed, if you don't work in an office your unemployed, if you work on a computer your playing games. They're so mentally deluded the only way for you to be a "proper person" in society is to reject all technology after 1940 and be born a boomer. These fucks then wonder why their kids don't visit.I never wanted anything from my father except some basic compassion and I couldn't even get that. Failure of a generation that caused damage through the following ones. They fact I'm not a gang banger or meth addict is nothing short of a miracle.

>>507836710
Why not crypto backed my metals?

10 dollars for a fucking donut???

>>507836710
If you were old enough to experience the internet before 2007, you would be able to see how centralised its become and extrapolate. Bitcoin has no future and its just a token of a bygone internet era. The crypto boom cycles happened because millennials had a little money but not enough and saw an opportunity to gamble on crypto in a shot to make it. At least people in a casino aren't deluded as to why they're there.