Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?
If so, how'd you go about it and how successful were you?
Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
I plan on taking some this weekend, haven't in a year.

And the political question so its on topic: How would the treatment of mental disorders change if shrooms were federally legal in the US?

>>507892318 (OP)
In small doses (Think .5 grams), all it does is make you laugh for like an hour. Very therapeutic.

Shrooms are not a remedy for anything; especially, mood disorders and psychiatric conditions such as depression. If anything at all, shrooms enhance the underlying emotions and/or cognitive state; giving it a dreamish/nightmarish quality at extremely high doses and merely adding more depth to it at conservative doses.

The propaganda being spread far and wide that "psychedelics are for...x, y, and z, with infinite benefits and spiritual awakenings" is just bullshit. Drugs are for experiencing altered states of consciousness; not for whatever bullshit excuse you needed to work up your courage to try them or to justify your usage.

By all means, get yourself some magic mushrooms and eat as many as your stomach can hold. After your "trip," you'll still be the same piece of shit that you were before but now you can have this DRUG FOR YOUR PERSONALITY.

Fucking faggot. Shrooms are for faggots. The reason psychedelic drugs are being pushed here is because they make users passive, docile, and borderline in every bad way.

>>507893292

.5 grams is not a standardized dose because such dosing is impossible due to variances in tolerance amongst different individuals.
Also, .5 grams of one strain might prove more potent than another; even from batch to batch, flush to flush, potency can vary.
And not every has a pleasant time on psychedelics. Anyone considering trying them based on dumb ass advice on /pol/ is gambling with their mental health.

>>507894943
Listen, when I buy weed today I know exactly how much THC and CBD to expect in it because it's legal. When I was a kid and weed was banned here, what you got was what you got. One day you'd get 5% THC weed that does nothing and the next time you'd get 25% weed that'd knock you out.

It's not a problem with the drug itself but entirely because of regulations.

Regardless, if he's just trying to get the aforementioned effect of laughing for a while, he should be working his way up from small doses anyway.

To actually get hallucinations you need to take a lot more and you can still tell they're not real. It's just amped up pareidolia with increased self-awareness.

>>507892318 (OP)
auvelity changed my life. I almost killed myself and now I'm a functional member of society.

It's basically a low dose of dxm.

>>507895479

To get the effect of "laughing for a while," he'd have to have a sense of humor to start with and then his mind would have to be prone to such ideation. Otherwise, the drugs are just going to bring out or to the surface what's already there.

As far as modern medical grade marijuana is concerned, it's all garbage that's been breeding for a few certain genetic markers. It's literally trash these days; so much so that it's lost all it's appeal and sobriety is more enjoyable.

Then, I'm sober minded, analytical, and prone to wrath; I don't need anything trying to cloud my judgement or cut my balls off chemically. I'm better off huffing gun oil and bore cleaner than smoking that garbage.

>It's just amped up pareidolia with increased self-awareness

I have this naturally, really don't need any help. For me it's LSD

>>507896896
Ergot looks like a mushroom under a microscope.

>>507896256

>auvelity changed my life.

Faggot shit

>almost killed myself

Weak

>functional member of society

This is a euphemism that describes being placed in the "holding pen" with the rest of the NPC cattle to await the day that the kosher abattoir has opportunity to slaughter you.

Drugs are for the fearful and lazy.

>>507897132
At least he's not an asshole like you, fr.

>>507897264

Drugs tend to take the asshole right out of the users; it makes you passive, lazy, docile, and almost certain of failure in a survival situation. I hate junkies no matter what their drug of choice is because they are a liability to themselves, their families, and society. You can disagree with the tone of the message but it's the truth.

Do better. Be better.

>>507898124
Berserkers were known for consume copious amounts of drugs before entering combat and their reputation is so strong people still talk of them turning into animals in fights.

>>507898404
for consuming*

>>507898404

Drugs are for the fearful.
The "beserker" consumed copious amounts of drugs to quell his inner coward.
And he had no choice in war; either fight or the king will kill you himself. At least, in battle he had a chance to prevail over the enemy.
But look around you and acknowledge the date of the beserker. Extinct. Forgotten. Or otherwise remembered as a troubled soul or burden upon their family. This is the fate of junkies.

Do better --> Be better --> Do better --> Be better

>>507898404

This is also a funny comment because you're implying that junkies are useful idiots for the state to use in the commission of murder. Enjoy your psychedelic buffet; the government must have a program for you to enlist or be drafted where upon your altered mind can create a windfall of gold coins for them. Truly, you are the enlightened one - beserking your way into a hell you helped create for yourself.

>>507899674
Your claim was that it made people passive, docile and most likely to die, so I pointed out an example of people who were the exact opposite to prove your point is fucking retarded.

>>507899933
either way drug addled morons should be killed, violent or not

>>507900151
Start with the politicians and see if that fixes it.

>>507900254
regardless of their profession

>hey anon, take this drug it will help sort you life out
>cue 5 hours of hellish, nightmarish "introspection" where the only conclusion is how bad you fucked your life up

>>507900533
I met God. What have you done?

>>507896896
interdasting. I was looking for the green text schizopost talking about how fungi is an invasive alien species, it's connected to the whole we wuz giants n sheeeit thing. can't find it anywhere

>>507892318 (OP)
The fact anything that grows freely in nature can be banned is asinine.

>>507901032
Anon, they ban math and physics.

Psychedelics are the anti-jew vaccine and are thus, based. All detractors are JIDF bootlickers. Fuck Salvia though man. Fuck that shit.

>>507900862
I took over 5 grams and when I closed my eyes I could see mycelium networks and they were telepathically communicating with me "We've been here for millions of years". It was not a pleasant experience.

>>507900533

This.
Drugs are only enjoyable by the lowest IQ denominator of mankind; any type of person who has the capacity or tendency for honest self-reflection and a conscience is likely to have a bad experience.
All you guys who listen to the psychedelic shills on /pol/ would be wise to research just how horrifying a "bad trip" can be; even experienced users have reported PTSD and life changing consequences - some even attempted suicide to end the trip.
>disregard this warning at your own peril

>>507901092
>Fuck Salvia though man. Fuck that shit.
>[DRUMS IN THE DISTANCE INTENSIFY]

>>507892318 (OP)
I've had shrooms several times, they're mid. I don't like them. They make you feel nauseous and uncomfortable for the first hour, then you're an overly emotional embarassingly talkative retard for the next 6-8 hours, you get nothing done all day, they just suck.
I wanna try LSD and DMT and hopefully get an actual enjoyable trip out of them. I don't think I would ever willingly do mushrooms again.

>>507901275
If mushrooms make you legitimately try to kill yourself you're a pussy dude.

>>507901482
>They make you feel nauseous
Nauseous means that it causes people to be nauseated. So unless you were shitting your pants I don't think it made you nauseous.

>>507901324
>Drums
More like, head to toe intense pins n' needles sensation that gets progressively worse and worse.

>>507892318 (OP)
>>507892318 (OP)
>>microdose shrooms every day
>>work from home and make over 6 figures
>>grow them too b/c it's easy as fuck and doesn't require any special lighting

anybody that opposes shrooms either hasn't taken them, is a glownigger, or is a retard

People have been taking shrooms and other psychedelics since humans have existed.

>>507901713
Oh, I get that even when I'm sober.
Nerve damage is real fun.

>>507892318 (OP)
>depression
Nope just to trip and see the pretty waves but I never had much of a problem with depression
>go about it
I have seen some people say you take a large enough dose to experience ego death and this helps you overcome your issues it can also help unlock repressed memories and you facing them and over coming them plays a part in elevating the issues.
>most enjoyable
For shrooms it was probably sitting inside a giant hollowed out redwood tree that was hit by lighting and tripping out and talking to the tree and listening to its wisdom. Trees are very wise they have seen alot. But my absolute favorite thing while tripping was candy flipping at rave with hot chicks “falling in love” with each other banging them and then never calling them back. I miss candy flipping so much it’s unreal

>>507892318 (OP)
It is best to think of psilocybin mushrooms as a nootropic.
>remedy for depression?
most depression is caused by poor habits, diet, and health choices. Exercise is the best cure for depression.
>If so, how'd you go about it and how successful were you?
it's not a narcotic. you can't get addicted. Its already decriminalized in most places. America only made it illegal to possess very recently.
>How would the treatment of mental disorders change if shrooms were federally legal in the US?
It's not a narcotic. It's not a fix for poor life choices. You can't take it everyday.

Some people do not respond well to psychedelics. My theory is people who are most capable of abstract thinking respond well to psychedelics particularly mushrooms. A person who is unable to understand where the origins of their thought come from and make a distinction between that and external stimuli is more likely to have a nervous breakdown. So I would keep it illegal and just do it anyway.

>>507892318 (OP)
they just grow in nature
you just have to know where
if you don't know, google, observe
unless you live in a city hellscape you're fucked
also look up doses before you fuck yourself up, sure 10 hour melting and breathing forest with fucking loud screaming and someone yelling go to underground for after the fullon onset and constantly vomiting everywhere and shit your pants
when they're good they're good, second one went so smooth, half of the day I was feeling happy and occasionally seeing squares inside spheres and bommmmmmmmmm sound, I remember remembering nothing for a while and just feeling light on my skin warming me up and just remembering that I really should just let go and I will feel happy after serious lightshow
everything was cool
kissing boyfriend at the time was awesome after

protip, cow pastures for cubes, dry the amanitas or drink reindeer piss

>>507894943
This is a jew

>>507901662

Apparently, whatever a bad trip is must be the equivalent of hell on earth. At high enough doses, users reported forgetting that they even took a drug and had no idea why everything was so terrible.

There's a reason why psychedelics are being pushed on /pol/. Anons used to be highly intelligent and extremely elusive for propaganda to influence them; these days, it does seem like this is a board for the weak and foolish.

>>507892318 (OP)
not a big fan of psychedelics tried them before and I don't really find the psychotropic affects appealing and im skeptical that they have any medicinal or even great recreational value. prefer cannabis and opiates

>>507901482
interesting I feel the same sickness and ginger chews help mitigate it, I prefer them alone.
But when I do talk with people, I don't feel this urge to withdraw or find something else to do and I can enjoy benign conversations. Contentment like that is something I wish I felt all the time.

>>507902465
In fairness, it's entirely possible it affects his brain differently than mine. I'm a Nordic/Celtic hybrid, so YMMV.

>>507892318 (OP)
I would buy them and eat them if it was legal to do so

>>507892318 (OP)
Psychodelics aren't for everyone expect a couple of legit schizophrenic hurting themselves or someone while under the influence.

>>507892318 (OP)
>what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
Sex on mushrooms is unreal.

>>507902586
It does, and it's apparent

>>507894943
Psilocybin promotes neurogenesis and can be used to treat brain injuries. Psychedelics are proven to be effective at treating depression and PTSD.

>>507898124
nah your just a dick lol
look inside yourself

>>507892318 (OP)
i dont think it'd matter too much if you truly care to take them you would. lsd and shrooms shaped me to who i am, i didnt really have much but lsd and shrooms made me realize how little nothing i truly had and it took such a load off my chest i really didnt give a fuck after

>>507902756
It's also the best treatment we have for cluster headaches (AKA "the suicide headache" for reasons you can surmise).

>>507892318 (OP)
Not depression exactly but they've definitely helped me become more confident and okay with myself.

>>507897007
Well DUH ergot is a FUNGUS dipshit.

>>507894943
Mushrooms tear down the ego and allow the person imbibing them to view things through different lenses. They're only illegal because they cut into the profits of the pharmaceutical companies. If you believe otherwise you're either a kike or brainwashed by them.

>>507892318 (OP)
>Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?
>If so, how'd you go about it and how successful were you?
Not really, but they helped me get through sad times
Shrooms connect you to your subconscious, you cant lie to yourself while on shrooms.
If you are being a lazy fuckup, you will know it and get REALLY PISSED at yourself, which promotes change (at least this is what happened for me). If you are doing everything right, you will be in peace.

>Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
Taking a shower.
If you have a bathtub, fill it half way, submerge your ears, start humming like some Mongolian throat singer.
Go to youtube and search "psytrance cartoon", it's pretty entretaining
Shadowbox and do pushups while listening to the dragon ball soundtrack

Fapping is also great. I put "broken latina whores" on, and pretend I'm a conquistador doing them.
It's hard to cum on shrooms though. Waste of time most of the time, I don't do it anymore. Weed is the superior fapping drug.

Sometimes you just feel like vomitting and shitting for a couple of hours. Doing it in the morning on an empty stomach mitigates that

>>507901733

THIS GUY IS A LIAR.
Growing shrooms requires grow lights to insure potency and a meticulous attention to cleanliness.
Look at his green text.
It's a fantasy of encouragement that features a slippery slope fallacy any lazy, fearful, person with a interest in psychedelics would use to justify trying them "just once." What's the worst that can happen - I'll make SIX FIGURES?
This is propaganda.
This is that faggot bullshit you were warned about.

>People have been taking shrooms and other psychedelics since humans have existed.

No source. But that means you should take them too.

>anybody that opposes shrooms either hasn't taken them, is a glownigger, or is a retard

According to the meme flaggot.

All antipsychadelic fags are NWO kike puppets.

>>507902544
>At high enough doses, users reported forgetting that they even took a drug and had no idea why everything was so terrible.
This kinda happened to me on my worst trip and it was extremely horrifying, but coming out of it felt great and I have no regrets about it

I did shrooms many times and I can guarantee you that they wont heal your depression. When you have a good trip they will make you feel better for a little while and when you have a bad trip you will suffer, that's it.
If you want long lasting changes try metta meditation - just remember that it can be difficult at the beginning but be consistent.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/nanamoli/wheel007.html

>>507892318 (OP)
How can you ban a mushroom

>>507903254
You're the liar, faggot
Go home

>>507903254
This poster is a fucking kike shill. Disregard everything Xir says.

i like going on walks :)
drugs aren't for treating depression but shrooms/psychedelics can help in seeing things from different perspectives, and increase empathy. i don't recommend doing any psychedelic trip more often than about once in 8 months

terence mckenna said something like "If you're worried about your career at the box-folding factory, then you probably shouldn't take psychedelics." i can't find the exact quote. but all of these systems within your mind, your path on your career and such, are going to crumble. everything is going to absolutely crumble. so it's really something you shouldn't play with unless you aren't super attached to your status in society and your path of advancement and stuff like that

>>507903254
>Growing shrooms requires grow lights to insure potency
lol they're fucking mushrooms dude, they grow in the dark

>>507903355
How can you get groomed by a paki?

>>507898124
How can something that forms zero addiction cause someone to be a junkie?

>>507892318 (OP)
Well, if you eat the ones in PICREL you DIE....

So, fuck off OP.

>Beware Unearned Wisdom
Jesus Christ is God

>>507903254
Why are you so concerned over an issue that doesn't affect you?

>>507902114
mushrooms are "magic" because reality is experienced and projected mentally. Mushrooms dissolve mental ruts and reality filters that our minds self-impose because the truth and information our senses are awash in is overwhelming for our mind to deal with without desensitizing (ignoring, filtering).

The magic lies in the realization of illusion. That is, magic (illusion) is realized (made real) by our belief in it, and realized (seen for what it is) by magicians. One and the same. A magician realizes illusion. Mushrooms aid in this by removing the veil of mental filters and well-trodden paths (your pic related).

If you're depressed shrooms will help you.
BUT if you're not depressed shrooms will keep pushing you in that direction until you become trans.

>>507903254
This guy is a retard, mushrooms thrive in the darkness, and growing them takes a squirt of rubbing alcohol to the equipment you're using. They're easier to grow than weed and that shit literally grows like weeds.

>>507902465

Jew jacketing doesn't work in the context that you're attempting to apply it.
You, as an advocate for using psychedelics, are basically a shill in an off-topic thread that will likely reach maximum thread count.
Between the two of us, who is likely a jew? Me, for telling you dumbfucks to stay sober and vigilant? That's an absurdity that makes your accusation something closer to CHUTZPAH than accurate observation; which, if you had discernment, you'd know from my posts that my warnings are for healthy anons who wish to stay healthy. Definitely not jewish behavior.

>>507903470
By letting the kikes live long enough to import them to your nation.

>>507903503
>UMMMM LE FLY AGARIC WILL LE KILL YOU
Dipshit retard. They've used for thousands of years. Every psychedelic could be considered a """poison""" if you take them like a thoughtless retard.

>>507904014
Literal kike faggot JIDF well-poisoner detected.

>>507900533
> cue 5 hours of hellish, nightmarish "introspection" where the only conclusion is how bad you fucked your life up
some times this is all you need
better to face your inner self head on, than taking some (((anti depressant))) that turns you into a zombie, or spending thousands of dollars on some asshole therapist that doesnt give a fuck

"Red Flesh" didn't mean human or animal flesh. It meant Fly Agaric.
All of you were told they were cannibals or "sacrificing animals to their gods", but that was a lie the whole time.

>>507903503
If prepared correctly they are safe to eat with psychoactive effects. And have been used in Europe and asia in that manner for millennia. HOWEVER "white fly agaric" apparently called "destroying angel" in english is really deadly. So regular fly agaric has a worse reputation than it deserves due to
1. retards not preparing it correctly
2. retards mixing it up with the white variant and dying as a result.
>>507904444
It will kill you if you prepare it incorrectly or eat it raw.

>>507902756

In a clinical setting, under the direction of physicians trained in that type of therapy or treatment. Perhaps. But this thread is encouraging anons to self-diagnose their conditions (e.g, depression) and then prescribe a drug ( shrooms) and just DIY program of dosing until cured. That's just stupid and I'm calling it out because there's absolutely no benefit to experimenting with drugs known to cause schizophrenic breakdowns, suicide attempts, and other lasting negative consequences. Especially, not for for some anonymous faggot on a fed Honeypot board who only has a trust me bro source to back up his bullshit; even if he posts research papers, I'm still calling bullshit on the diy part of sourcing the drug, dosing it appropriately, and then dealing with the fallout if the consequences are severe. Most anons here seem to be having a difficult go at life already...this seems like throwing accelerant on the fire.
>disregard this warning at your own peril

>>507904980
>It will kill you if you prepare it incorrectly or eat it raw.
Bullshit. The worst it does is cause severe nausea and excessive salivating. Dipshit lying kike cocksucker.

>>507905085
Shut up, nerd. No wonder you have a bad time, being such a neurotic faggot lol

It’s not something that should be readily available to the average American with zero impulse control, we’d be surrounded by schizos even worse than the tweekers

>>507896896 is a retard and not really worth listening to. Expanded pattern recognition is not the same thing as Pareidolia. Normalfags certainly experience the latter far more often, but it doesn't render the former non-existent.
>>507900862
They weren't "giants', they were just comparatively taller.
>alien species
Someone fumbled the Telephone game here and you're now left with "alien species" when, in reality, the fungus simply connects you to what retards keep calling muh ayleeums. I assure you that they're retarded, they're not "aliens" and that if you too "consumed the flesh (of the mushroom; see Transubstantiation)", you'd easily understand that they're far more familiar than you were coaxed into believing.
>muh tall white people with funny features are aliens
That's not right either, before one of you idiots even tries it.

>>507903254
>Growing shrooms requires grow lights
Kill yourself. Unironically.

>>507905085
>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST THINK FOR YOURSELF NOOOOO
NPC babbler

is dmt more similar to shrooms or lsd
i like lsd but im not too big a fan of shrooms

>>507905085
>there's absolutely no benefit to experimenting with drugs known to cause schizophrenic breakdowns, suicide attempts, and other lasting negative consequences.
This guy's a fed, everyone.
It's a fed. It'll try to insist it's not a fed. But I'm telling you it's for sure a fed.

>>507903470
The same way your wife kisses nogs in the street while you stand nearby looking upset as mutts cheer all around you as you try to hoverhand her away

>>507892318 (OP)
The shrooms in your image are not banned as far as I know, but they are not “shrooms”-shrooms those are fly agaric which are an entirely different thing with an entirely different effect to Psilocybes. Since the way the government went about banning their sale here was illegal they left a loophole, if you don’t know that they are magics you’ve committed no offence.

>>507892318 (OP)
>Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?
no, I use them because they are absolutely fun to ingest

>Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
listening to music is an entire new level, you get to see sound

>>507901482
if you would have lemon teked your shrooms you would have dodged all the stomach issue
>DMT
now that is a schizo drug if you are ever chasing it


>>507905085
>you NEEED all these hurdles and boring rules and structures to enjoy things that literally grow from the ground!!
I can tell you never actually did shrooms, stop posting here with the big boys

>>507905085
They're mushrooms mate, not heroin.

>>507905085
I didn't read much of what you said but I guess the gist of it is that you've never done them? I don't do drugs anymore. I used to do a lot of tripping 20 plus years ago. In my early 40s now and I never ever get depressed. I only get angry. I attribute some of that to taking large doses of hallucinogens. The shit that I had seen then and tripping as much as I did actually helped all this. I've seen the face of the devil and I've felt hell in my life and it was because of hallucinogens amongst other things. I attribute the fact that I don't get depressed ever or too angry or too happy to mostly hallucinogens. What are you going to say about them apples huh?

>>507903221
that wouldn't surprise me, but to even know their power you would need to take them, its impossible to explain their effect. it's like speaking monkey to a fly you'd have to an udder schizo to even attempt to do such a thing, this is what schizophrenia is you trying to be a medium between taking a trip to a retard normie. it's just simply impossible to tell them to cause they would have already unless they are literally completely ignorant to their existence, but most people are firmly planted on their side if they are good or bad, and joe rogan wont do much to change that im afraid

>>507905640
They're only similar insofar as they all make you "see crazy shit, maaaaaan lmao".
You probably care about the duration they last primarily. To get an idea, DMT doesn't last very long at all, but time is diluted so there's no real concept of time tracking during the 15 minute or so experience. Fungus can last somewhere around 6 or maybe 8 hours. It depends on several factors, like your tolerance level (reverse tolerance for most people iirc), what you ate (or didn't) that day and how you administered it. LSD lasts around 12 hours or so, but you'll feel an afterglow for the rest of the day or so, most likely. They'll all have an afterglow, really, but LSD was most prominent in my experience.

>>507905460
>Someone fumbled the Telephone game here and you're now left with "alien species" when, in reality, the fungus simply connects you to what retards keep calling muh ayleeums. I assure you that they're retarded, they're not "aliens" and that if you too "consumed the flesh (of the mushroom; see Transubstantiation)", you'd easily understand that they're far more familiar than you were coaxed into believing.
Many characters in the Bible are mushrooms. Aside from my pic, theres jesus

>>507905978
>you get to see sound
This is called synesthesia. I get it from large doses of cannabis.

>>507894943

This guy needs to do shrooms.

>>507903221

If you believe otherwise...then you're a kike...

This is material implication. Literally, the linguistic structure of "IF X, THEN Y."

Nothing about what I've posted implies even a hint at my ethnicity but that I consider psychedelics dangerous and junkies intolerable.

Your use of "jew-jacketing" implies that you want anons to disregard my commentary based on an appeal to antisemitism.

And again it's a MEME FLAG accusing me of being a jew. You've had your warning. If you're determined to eat psychedelics, no one can stop you.

All I'm saying is to consider the OP's intentions for posting yet another off topic thread about magic mushrooms. There's a reason why these threads go to full thread count. There's a reason why psychedelics are being pushed here and legalized in states that already have legal marijuana.

If these drugs were the magic cure for everything, like these retarded junkies/shills claim, then you'd never be recommended to use them.

>>507892318 (OP)
If yo have a predisposition for mental illness, and I'm talking actual disorders within you or your bloodline, stay away from intoxicants. If not, you'd be better off not doing drugs, but just microdose things til you find your vice.

Personally, the gym and outdoorsy shit is my drug, but I have friends who swear up and down that psychotropics really enhance their mindset. Granted, I also view all of my friends as retards, so take that as you will.

>>507905640
No comparison. They're all incredibly different.

DMT (assuming smokes) has very fast onset and is very short duration. It will transport you to another dimension for 7 minutes in the appropriate dose.

Shrooms can maybe do that shit to you if you take a ridiculous amount, but the visuals are also different in my experience. Though that may be because I associate different things with them. A lot of what you see is subconscious so the more I tell you the more it's likely to alter what you would see.

>>507905640
Neither DMT sends you to space it only lasts for about 5 minutes but you lose track of all time and it feels like hours. Acid and shrooms have pretty visuals but you are still very much in this world. DMT is more like being transported into a different dimension. It’s hard to explain to people who have not done it. It was like I went through a wormhole where I was looking through a kaleidoscope in the cosmos and I met these very nice almost angelic beings of bright light they were very warm and loving. They just kinda watched me and made sure I was safe. I see why people say they are like elves tho because elf like is how I would describe them but they were very bright and warm like pure love. If you know what dark watchers are (they are supposed to be crypids in California) they were like them but these ones were bright watchers. They were pretty chill.

>>507892318 (OP)
>Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?

Me.

>If so, how'd you go about it and how successful were you?

Took 8 grams of Golden Teachers on a Halloween when I was very suicidal and wanted to die. It totally reset me. It helps I have tons of psychological knowledge from William Walker Atkinson books. You're highly suggestible on them so set and setting and just program yourself. You'll believe what you think then and make changes.

>Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?

Cycling. I can't stop flopping around like a fish on them and I have super human strength and balance but on a bike I can seem normal enough as long as I don't try to talk as that will result in shrill laughter.

>I plan on taking some this weekend, haven't in a year.
>And the political question so its on topic: How would the treatment of mental disorders change if shrooms were federally legal in the US?

All psychedelics are actually beneficial, actually helpful. I believe in legalizing all drugs because I'm a social darwinist and want to see fentanyl addicts die but psychedelics actually save lives. The only reason to keep psychedelics banned is you want your population to be miserable, depressed, and helpless.

>>507894943
Total disinformation.

>>507905640
DMT is the big daddy you retarded psychopath. They're not even remotely comparable.

>>507898124
Shrooms give me super human strength and balance and are the ideal drug of choice I'd take into battle. Does come with intense empathy and also ability to read people too.

>>507906062
You're misunderstanding. You're confusing the Dionysian or Demeterian concepts with retards who get counter-signal interviews on Gaia, talking about how "biblical figures were mushrooms lol".
I highly suggest some Frazer to round out these misunderstandings. He'll help you understand the whole "eat the dead guy" thing, the dying and rising god and why people keep mystically becoming deities-plants-food like Mother Ayahuasca and Jesus.
In all cases, the Sacrament itself isn't just a portal (Gateway) into the deity, it, for all intents and purposes, is in fact that Deity. It's like naming a street after someone - the street definitely has that guy's name, but he's also evidently still Steve. The road may lead to his house reliably and everything, but the road isn't necessarily also him even though they share an overarching connection. Obviously that gravel piled in a line on the ground isn't "Steve".
>fungs
The fungus is not a biblical agent. It pervades many other systems, some local and some not. Jesus was certainly not some fungus. Adam and Eve also were not fungus. The "Red Flesh", however, which certain rituals connecting these themes, you'll find with a careful eye and serious research, is a nod to the fungus.
>Transbustantiation
Jesus didn't "become wine" and he didn't "become a mushroom" (again, see Dionysus/Demeter) either. He actually was offering people his blood. They did in fact imbibe it. The catch is the reasoning for this is so heavily obscured from your culture that me explaining any more would make you enter a catatonic state of disbelief and proceed to disregard anything I ever say to you again. That's how thick the programming is on this subject. It's some literal Black Mirror shit.

>>507899674
It's opiates that sometimes make people really passive and only sometimes a lot of fentanyl users are violent as hell.

fear can program your DNA. Psychedelics can remove that fear --that's the basics

>>507900151
Just ban narcan and legalize all drugs and let nature sort things out. For me psychedelics + nootropics improve my memory, visualization, math, etc. and have made me far more efficient and capable person. If you met me before shrooms and then years after it's like two totally different people.

>>507907230
>fear
This topic reaches far, far beyond "fear", anon.

>>507900533
Better than going in circles for life not knowing where you fucked up and never having quiet in your mind. It's nice to know you're absolutely fucked and you truly can't do anything about it.

>>507903428
haven't watched McKenna in a while, but he has a way with words. I don't plan on taking anything near heroic doses tho because I believe ego is necessary to the human experience, what is a person without a semblance of a self.
>>507903636
you had me in the first half, when you say magicians do you mean like in the jungian sense, like someone who is proficient and wise and would be a shaman/community leader in ancient tribes?

>>507901482
DMT is better but you also should be doing lemon tek instead of eating the chitin of the mushrooms which causes the nausea. Strain all the chitin out. Also combine with lion's mane and other nootropics.

>>507893292
Browsing /pol/ on a low dose of shrooms makes the memes more funny.
I tried 3g max and it did not improve anything.

>>507907661
Tolerance builds extremely rapidly. You'd have to wait a while and then try a big dose at once.

>>507907411
yes that's why i like running as well, nothing better than having ran 5 miles and realizing fuck i dont want to run anymore but you still have to get home so you make it work

>>507903254

ALL THE RESPONSES THAT CLAIM YOU DON'T NEED GROW LIGHTS IS COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER GROWN SHROOMS.

VERY LIKELY FROM ANONS WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN EATEN SHROOMS.

RESEARCH IT.

BETTER YET, SINCE YOU'RE SO DETERMINED TO TRY SHROOMS,VWHY DON'T YOU GROW YOUR OWN.

GROW ONE MONOTUB IN THE DARK; ANOTHER UNDER MULTISPECTRUM GROW LIGHTS.

TEST IT FOR YOURSELF.

I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND I'M NOT A FUCKING JEW.

>>507901482
they only last like 3 hours. Are you larping?

why are you showing picture of amanita muscaria? fly algaric? that shit will kill your ass if you don't use it in precisely the right way, and even then you'll fuck your organs up if you do use it "right"...you're clearly talking about psilocybe cubensis....and everything is unbanned, anyone can get shrooms anywhere, legality has nothing to do with use rates, pot became legal, did "everyone" rush out and get weed? no, no it just cost less, so people aren't doing shrooms all day all the time because they don't want to be incapacitated for 8 hours out of the day very often

>>507908137
This guy is retarded. I've grown plenty of shrooms.

They do need some light, but not anything fancy. Just put them somewhere they get ambient light on/off at least 8/16 hours. They do fine with less though. They do not photosynthesize. The light is just another signal for them.

>>507908137
>ALL THE RESPONSES THAT CLAIM YOU DON'T NEED GROW LIGHTS IS COMING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER GROWN SHROOMS
Kill yourself.

>>507907433
You don't have to experience a more coherent awareness or higher state of consciousness to "notice lies" like anon is saying. Many "Magicians" (yes, in a Jungian sense) certainly do not have the gift. Hell, I'd wager the majority that do have the gift never even learn much about Magic (most of them are harassed to suicide and/or drug addiction/"schizophrenia").
"Magic", anon, is essentially just doing things other people don't understand. No, I'm not talking about a guy wearing a fun hat that we find out later contains a rabbit. I mean interfacing with "spirits" (or "aliens" if you're retarded), "deities" and more, which you'd call Theurgy. I also mean Thaumaturgy too, which is more practical stuff.
To be clear, fungus isn't Magic, it's a Gateway. You perform "Magic" by using the Gateway, however. It's an Implement. Think of it like having a Hall Pass to another place you don't normally interact with or a state of mind you can't usually access.
>>507907661
>>507907739
>Tolerance builds rapidly
Leaf, this is sort of comical, but rather irresponsible. The tolerance doesn't "build rapidly", you dunce. Why are you building a tolerance in the first place? This is the wrong way to do it entirely. You need to cycle your serotonin. Don't be an idiot.
>>507908159
Anon isn't LARPing, just a fucking moran. I don't suggest further engagement. People like this will give you awful advice.
They do not only last 3 hours. Again, it depends on how they're administered, how much you've eaten or not that day and several other factors. I've never experienced a 3 hour window, however. 6 is about right for me and pretty reliably.

>>507892318 (OP)
>Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?
If you are fucked up, it will just make you more fucked up. It guides you if you are balanced and seek truth.
>If so, how'd you go about it and how successful were you?
It is not a depression drug, I would not use it for that or you will probably risk a bad trip.
My GF was depressed and it made everything worse.
>Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
Saw the universe.

>>507906954
>The catch is the reasoning for this is so heavily obscured from your culture that me explaining any more would make you enter a catatonic state of disbelief and proceed to disregard anything I ever say to you again. That's how thick the programming is on this subject. It's some literal Black Mirror shit.
Explain it to me, daddy

>>507894943
shroom denier

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A

>>507902544
I'm just going to make this very clear. All they do is amplify your consciousness. Anyone who does meditation, knows psychological techniques, knows how to use their own mind can benefit from psychedelics amplifying their consciousness. That is all they do.

>>507908545
based
what strain?

>>507908137
They literally grow in nature dipshit, lmfao. They grow in fucking pastures on cow shit and under/around trees. LMFAO.

>>507892318 (OP)

All I know is Aaron Rodgers posted back to back MVP years after his ayahuasca ceremony

>>507906019

I just think that over the last 8 years, this board went from hosting some of the most intelligent, and dangerous, anons to being a cesspool of irrelevant threads and trivial controversies. I find it highly suspicious that there is a big push for anyone who is not already using psychedelics to "give them a try because they cure x, y, and z."

In light of the overwhelming negative energy and hatred spewing out of this website in nearly every thread, I just doubt that suddenly there's a beneficial intent behind the content posted here.

DRUGS ARE FOR FAGGOTS. EVERYONE OF YOU HERE PROMOTING DRUGS IS A WEAK BITCH. I DON'T ACCEPT ADVICE FROM WEAK MEN.

>>507907230
>fear can program your DNA. Psychedelics can remove that fear --that's the basics

Here, we show that a single administration of the psychedelic DOI produced
fast-acting effects on frontal cortex dendritic spine structure and acceleration of fear
extinction via the 5-HT2A receptor. Additionally, a single dose of DOI led to changes in
chromatin organization particularly at enhancer regions of genes involved in synaptic
assembly that stretched for days after the psychedelic exposure.

From https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.24.432725v1.full.pdf

Pic is baby Jesus all wrapped up in a blanket

>>507907433
magicians create illusions, which to those who cannot perceive them as such are reality. The distinction between reality and illusion is therefore one of perspective, with solipsism completely blurring that line to the point of erasure.

The relationship between the conscious and subconscious mind within and its symbolic correlation to the world without has very much to do with the ancient hermetic principle "as above so below", and perhaps the modern holographic principle, all of which are indicative of the mental nature of reality. A magician is someone that understands this and uses his mind to modulate reality.

>Le fly agaric will HECKIN' KILL U!!!
You are not immune to propaganda.

>>507909315
This nigger got molested by the dude in the DARE lion costume, LMFAO.

>>507906613

THIS MEME FLAG IS A LIAR.

Psychedelics will amplify your emotions. Depression + psychedelics = bad trip.
Go to the shroomery forums.
Create a account so you can browse and comment.
These dumbass shills on /pol/ are giving you bad advice on purpose.

DISREGARD THE WARNINGS AT YOUR OWN PERIL

>>507905085
Alcohol is a very harmful drug that doesn't really have upsides but shrooms on the other hand save lives. Knowledge of psychology is a prerequisite for making the most of it, don't just watch the electric jew while on shrooms or something stupid like that.

>>507909315
Druggies are fags but drugs are fine and everyone should try all of them. People who dont know what they are talking about shouldn't be trying to tell people how it is thats why everyone should get drunk and high once in a while

>>507892318 (OP)

Muscimol's not a controlled substance, though, in neither Europe nor the US.

>>507905085
>even if he posts research papers
Imagine living in the Land of the Free and policing what someone can ingest. Drug addicts don't make very good worker units it's not about personal freedom.

>>507909315
>Y-you're WEAK!!!
Go through a genuinely bad trip and then you can talk to me about being "weak" faggot.

>>507908349
>why are you showing picture of amanita muscaria? fly algaric? that shit will kill your ass if you don't use it in precisely the right way, and even then you'll fuck your organs up if you do use it "right"...you're clearly talking about psilocybe cubensis....and everything is unbanned, anyone can get shrooms anywhere, legality has nothing to do with use rates, pot became legal, did "everyone" rush out and get weed? no, no it just cost less, so people aren't doing shrooms all day all the time because they don't want to be incapacitated for 8 hours out of the day very often
No, friend, I mean Amanitas...you just got to dry them out. They work on different brain receptors than cubensis, which makes more serotonin. It's a whole other experience for sure

Picrel Jesus in the manger

>>507905215
Anyone with no impulse control needs to be weeded out anyways. Just make them available for everyone. The stupid would hopefully cull themselves and the smart will make the most of it. I really have little hopes though for the potential of shrooms to cull the retards, they will probably just make them more intelligent and increase their pattern recognition, which could result in unprecedented levels of anti-semitism as people start noticing on a massive scale.

>>507909069
That was B+, I had some teachers going at the same time and was also growing normal edible mushrooms from packs i bought online. Lions mane and pink oyster mushrooms are incredibly tasty.

>>507905640
I've not done LSD but shrooms and DMT effect me exactly the same way just different intensity and duration. DMT is shorter and more intense, shrooms can be just as intense at really high dose but lasts longer.

>>507892318 (OP)
They aren't "illegal"
Not really.
You just can't sell them.
You can buy the spores online and grow them yourself
Your picture however, is not psilocybin.
You can get those on Amazon in gummy form.
I recommend the Road trip brand. They absolutely have an effect. It's not trippy, more relaxing, but you will definitely know you took something.
Otherwise, psilocybin is perfectly legal so long as you don't sell them, or drive while on them.

>>507910278
>>>You can get those on Amazon in gummy form.
I recommend the Road trip brand
They very clearly state that there is absolutely zero psilocybin in any of their products it's a "LaB gRoWn AlTeRnAtIvE" dipshit.

>>507909193

APE, TRUE ALBINO TEACHER, JEDI MIND FUCK, JACK FROST, and many other top tier cubensis strains do not grow in nature.

Liberty Caps, sure. But for the absolute most intense strains that have been bred for potency, no way.

There are mycology forums and online communities that can educate you on the issues you seem determined to disagree upon. Grow lights do increase potency.

>>507906362
The government should not be allowed to make decisions on what people ingest, inject, etc. and should only police their behavior in regards to such things as theft and assault and vandalism. The government also shouldn't be trying to save retards from culling themselves.

>If these drugs were the magic cure for everything, like these retarded junkies/shills claim, then you'd never be recommended to use them.

I've actually cured a thermoregulation issue I had for years with DMT and I cured two chronic pain issues. I've had no downsides either. Weed on the other hand gave me bronchitis.

>>507910105
Pink oysters look good, I'll be growing some of those soon.

>>507910105
I've grown B+ and Cambodia.
Wet B+ were by far the best.

>>507892318 (OP)
I eat a handful or so a few times a year. Feels great man. Unlike with other psychedelics, I generally feel in control of my faculties while on shrooms. Sometimes I can even have a perfectly normal conversation. So they're good to take in small amounts in appropriate social gatherings, I find.

>most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
Back in varsity two chinas and I chowed a lot and decided to go downhill skating down a very steep, winding road down a hill near the university. We all got a little injured but I was mostly winded from laughing so hard.

>And the political question so its on topic: How would the treatment of mental disorders change if shrooms were federally legal in the US?

No idea. I know in SA, legalization of baggage is a complete joke. Ostensibly (the reality is very different), only medical doctors and...'traditional healers'...can prescribe weed. Doctors and witch doctors, basically. Another of our simian governments attempts to equate their backwards savagery to the way we do things.
Nowadays, I don't trust the US not to shit the bed on a sensible legalization policy. Like SA, they'll find ways to make the whole thing silly

>>507908137
Cultivating P. cubensis: Light and Tryptamine Are Key for Controlling Psilocybin and Psilocin Levels

No light and increasing tryptamine in the growing medium leads to more psilocin but less psilocybin in the mushrooms.

https://psychedelicreview.com/cultivating-p-cubensis-light-and-tryptophan-are-key-for-controlling-psilocybin-levels/

>>507911411
>drug-addled degenerate falls upon Jewish psychedelics as his country is taken over and his race destroyed by niggers

>>507910517
I didn't say there was any psilocybin in the Road trip gummies. Work on your reading comprehension skills please. I was clearly referring to the OP picture. Which is muscimol.

>>507911637
>The anti-jew vaccine is ACKCHUALLY le Jewish trick!!!
Shut up, KIKE.

>>507908137
Rafati et al. – The Effects of Light on Psilocybin and Psilocin Levels in P. cubensis

This 2009 study analyzed the amounts of psilocybin and psilocin in P. cubensis grown under three conditions: bright, indirect lighting, dim lighting, and in the dark.7 The analyses were done using GC-MS (gas chromatography-mass spectrometry).

The GC-MS data revealed that the levels of psilocybin and psilocin in the three groups of mushrooms were significantly different (p<0.001). The mushrooms grown in the dark had the highest levels of psilocybin and psilocin, while minimum levels were found in those grown in bright, indirect light.

Interestingly, psychedelic mushroom expert Paul Stamets hypothesized in his book Magic Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide, that ultraviolet radiation from the sun reduces the potency of psilocybin-containing mushrooms.1 “I observed that sun-struck Psilocybe cubensis appear weak in comparison to those found in the shade,” (page 36). This study by Rafati et al. was the first to report data on the effects of light on psilocybin and psilocin levels in psilocybin-containing mushrooms and supporting Stamets’s hypothesis.

>>507911637
I just like a bit of mushroom fun from time to time, nothing to get hysterical about.

>>507908137
Someone in the comments is saying this one 2009 study has been refuted and never reproduced btw.

>>507909315
He figured out the game. How do we spin the narrative shroombros?

>>507911980
>that headline

For all we know this guy was a psych ward escapee who does this stuff to himself on shrooms or not.

How many people have stabbed themselves in the brain on alcohol yet alcohol is not banned?

>>507910787

All I'm offering is a word of extreme caution to anons who might actually find themselves influenced by the REPETITION of magic mushroom threads and the "encouragement," positive testimonies, and latest research posted by anonymous users (who may or may not have good intentions) who definitely shouldn't be trusted as a source for medical advice.

The intensity of pushback for advocating for sobriety is not characteristic of well-intentioned anons. There's zero harm in sobriety and zero risk of negative consequences. But there's plenty of risk in using psychedelic drugs; I've seen it firsthand that they can cause schizophrenia and even just disrupt a person's ability to hold down a job. I've seen what can happen when someone overestimates their ability to handle these drugs and gets taken for a bad trip.

>>507909713
>Psychedelics will amplify your emotions.

Yes.

>Depression + psychedelics = bad trip.

Not really. Depression is characterized by anhedonia, vagueness, not being able to process things correctly, not having joy in anything, having no motivation, etc. Shrooms can make you in touch with those darker emotions and thus process them. I don't know why you'd call that a "bad trip".

>>507894943
I did 20 grams last month and I feel great.

>>507912348
you'll never know if you can fly if you never jump

>>507912348
Tell us in detail one anecdote of someone you knew who went into a total schizophrenic mode and never got out of it and also were they taking the shrink drugs and other drugs and also were they progressing that way into schizophrenia already and shrooms just helped them get there quicker?

>>507892318 (OP)
If you think a ban is stopping people from doign shrooms you are retarded

>>507909713
>Depression + psychedelics = bad trip.
Idk im perma depressed and everytime I take shrooms I feel joy again.
I dont get how people have bad trips, the closest thing was some paranoia at the end of a trip but even that wasnt like terrible

>>507912236
How many cases of jabbing pencils into your brain through your eyes does alcohol have?
>The young man described in the case report had a medical history that included attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and hypertension, which he managed with daily medications. He had no known history of depression, self-harm, or serious psychiatric illness. On the day of the incident, he returned home from work and consumed an unknown amount of psilocybin mushrooms.
>Soon afterward, his behavior changed drastically. According to family members, he became agitated and paranoid—classic signs of a “bad trip.” Despite attempts by his stepfather and brother to calm him down, he broke a glass vase and began injuring himself. Then, in a horrific act, he placed a pencil upright on his desk and repeatedly drove his head onto it, penetrating both of his eye sockets. The pencil lodged deeply in the left eye and continued into his brainstem.
>Emergency responders sedated and intubated him before transporting him to a hospital for advanced care. Initial brain scans showed that the pencil had punctured the pons, a region at the base of the brain vital for breathing and motor control. Imaging also revealed bleeding in the brain, skull fractures, and signs of vascular damage. Although the right eye had suffered a blowout fracture, the pencil had traveled through the left orbit and into the brainstem, causing a pontine hemorrhage and disruption of blood flow.
>Over the next few days, a team of neurosurgeons and ophthalmologists worked to stabilize the patient and remove the foreign object. They used advanced imaging and surgical techniques, including vascular embolization and careful dissection, to extract the pencil. Despite these efforts, the patient’s condition worsened. He experienced ongoing brain swelling, additional bleeding, and increasing intracranial pressure. Eventually, he lost all brainstem reflexes and was declared brain dead five days after the injury.

>>507892318 (OP)
It would massively disrupt the mental health pharmaceutical industry. It has completely changed me for the better, saved my marriage in the long term and I'm a spiritual person now, overall way happier. One session saved me.

Here is my advice on shrooms and DMT if health and safety is a priority for you.

1. If you're doing shrooms at a very high dose have 8 hours set aside for this and have yourself a tard wrangler to keep you safe. Ideally you should be in a locked room and someone should be observing you. You will piss yourself in there.
2. Go into with a mindset of getting in touch with your subconscious and working out things there.
3. Have knowledge of mentalism, psychology, meditation, astral projection, etc. read William Walker Atkinson books beforehand and practice for a long while before you bother amplifying your consciousness with psychedelics.
4. Have a clear intention in using this stuff. Don't do it just for entertainment or for the sake of partying.
5. Once you're familiar with how it effects you at various doses you can start doing stuff without a sitter and maybe in a park and so on.
6. Don't do it in a national park. My sister is a national park ranger in Jasper Alberta and has so many stories of idiots being found freezing and covered in scratches and mud and naked or getting in fights with bears and mooses while on psychedelics. Also water is a serious risk, two people have drowned on DMT for example, one in has bathtub and one more recently at a dock.

>>507912566

I'll tell you two anecdotes from personal experience.

The first, my cousin, during his early twenties experimented with multiple drugs; research chemicals as well as magic mushrooms, dmt, and eventually he decided meth was his preferred substance. He has been in and out of mental hospitals for the last twenty years. The drugs brought out a latent potential for schizophrenia that has to be treated with antipsychotics full time now. In fact, he was recently sober for a couple months out of a rehab program and doing well. Relapsed, went to the hospital psyche ward, stayed for a few weeks until stable, and is back in rehab.

Worst of all, I told him not to risk it with drugs. He was smart, articulate, and had potential for something far better than his current lifestyle of schizo meds and drug addiction.

A more recent example is from an experienced psychedelic user who didn't mind bad trips at all; he would ride them out. And he tripped on high doses so frequently that he developed HPPD, lost his job, and is currently out there somewhere unemployed and possibly homeless.

Both of these users have other drugs in common aside from shrooms. So, make of that what you will. I make of it: don't do drugs.

>>507911411
story sounds like bliss.
and SA government sounds like a bad comedy bit about America in 20 years

>>507913665

Should add that his HPPD went away by itself after a couple weeks. He's very accustomed to eating shrooms and working a full shift (restaurant washing dishes) but HPPD fucked his shit up so bad he couldn't maintain. He said he felt like he was going crazy.

>>507911126
They unironically taste like bacon, theyre great.

>>507911259
Far out, look at those little suckers. B+ is by far my favourite strain.

>>507912825
Was it his first time on shrooms? If not was it his first time on a high dose of them?

>>507913665
>The first, my cousin, during his early twenties experimented with multiple drugs; research chemicals as well as magic mushrooms, dmt, and eventually he decided meth was his preferred substance
I did all that including meth and decided meth wasn't for me, now im quite literally a 6 figure corporate chad.

I actually ate these bad boys raw
It hurts your stomach

It's the weirdest stuff you ever had, I wouldn't recommend actually trying getting high of it unless you are under supervision.

You can just boil it and drink it... drink just a small dose, there is a dangerous threshold when you can lose your mind

Otherwise I can't wait for these bad bois

Warning, don't fucking think this like shrooms, this is serious

>>507892318 (OP)
I thought they were legal in a few states

>>507892318 (OP)
what if LSD something legal prank people with that

>>507894943
Dude is lowkey right, shrooms really won't change you're life. However they are fun.

>>507903254
>meticulous attention to cleanliness.
these niggas grow in cow shit

>>507914829
>You can just boil it and drink it.
Excessive heat breaks down psilocybin, keep the water temp under 70 degrees centigrade.

>>507902114
It didn't cure my depression. It made me realize I didn't even have it and was making shitty excuses for myself to not move forward. Allowed me too lay out issues on the table that weren't really important to ruminate on to begin with. No urge to do them again, I was experimenting with different doeses for about a year. I wouldn't be against macro dosing sometimes. Sit back and listen to a nice playlist at the beach. People must be taking stupid amounts that they would be so against it. Or they've never taken them at all

>>507903636

>>507894943
>Anyone considering trying them based on dumb ass advice on /pol/ is gambling with their mental health
You are right in most of what you said, however most drugs and mental health treatments are a gamble nowadays, people like to gamble on shrooms under the perspective they can be cured in one season

>>507894943
>>507896256
>>507898124
>>507905469
>>507915123
this nigga never did shrooms lol

>shrooms dont require light to grow
they do, you're retarded.

>>507913665
Meth is fucked and probably did the most damage to him. Being more suggestible (something psychedelics do) can make it easier for people to influence you and give you other drugs you wouldn't have done before. It is important to not keep bad company while using psychedelics.

>>507915123

I know. But growing them indoors and growing the top tier shrooms, like Jack Frost and APE (which do not grow anywhere in nature because they were created in a mycology lab through breeding experiments), requires extreme cleanliness to reduce contamination which can and will reduce your yields; if not destroy your entire monotub if caught too late.

>>507894943
You started off passive, then you ended up sounding like a faggot. Which means you’re either a puritanical WASP or a duplicitous kike. Either way, you need to die in an oven.

>b-b-b-but this one guy i cherrypicked isn’t a complete hippy burn out scizo retard after using psylicobin/LSD/LSA/5meoDMT!
nah fuck you shroom heads. fuck stoners. fuck drug addicts. fuck alcoholics. to be sober is a superhuman trait. even you caffeine speedfreaks are lesser humans. addict freak. i can survive on rain water and raw beef alone

(i was chonged on edibles for 4 years straight and i drink like a fish)

>>507915533
Light just alters the ratio of psilopsybin to psilocin according to one study and in another study it is suggested that if there is light given at a certain stage it will develop larger fruiting bodies.

You don't need light but light can alter the properties of mushrooms.

i ate 400 morning glory seeds some days if not 6-8 hawaiian woodrose seeds and after the nausea i was in a headspace where i felt like i should glean something but never actually felt anything. no epiphany. no magical third act where everything turns out alright. no overall change. we are systems with input and output. just unseen because of the many different configurations we can have

>>507915533
Well I guess im wrong then for successfully growing mushrooms in my wardrobe with occasional exposure to ambient light when fruiting.

>>507892318 (OP)
amanitas are poison, worthless.

>>507915708

Once at a house party, there was a group of three guys in their late teens to early twenties who bought an ounce of shrooms to split. These were just your ordinary shrooms, nothing fancy, nothing exotic.
They each ate roughly a quarter bag each. Two of them tolerated it very well. But the third guy had a complete ego death/dissolution experience where he became HIGHLY SUGGESTIBLE.

He was having a bad trip for sure. And to help him out, we gave him COMMANDS IN THE THIRD PERSON. E.G., Josh is going to be okay; Josh is getting up off the floor now; Josh is calm now; Josh is ready to lay down in a dark room and relax.

We put him to bed with direct commands and suggestions given in the third person. It was at that moment that I knew how dangerous these drugs could be if you were in bad company. And these days, bad advice is everywhere; music, movies, random encounters, etc. could cause a bad trip or a high dose experience to escalate into tragedy or just ruin a life.

I know everyone wants to party. But shrooms are not a party drug. After some of the trainwrecks I've witnessed, mostly from meth users, I would never advise anyone to use drugs; even the ones I've tried myself.

>>507901032
>cannabis seeds: legal literally everywhere
>cannabis seed that falls into soil and grows: illegal
?????

>>507915908
you seem like a level-headed, chill guy to hang out with.

>>507915868

EITHER/OR

This is linguistic faggotry intended to persuade others to dismiss a legitimate warning. What you've proposed here doesn't necessarily follow logically. And why is jew jacketing so common on /pol/ these days?

>>507916801
>third guy had a complete ego death/dissolution experience where he became HIGHLY SUGGESTIBLE
Creepy that you exposed an npc among you. There was no soul inside.

you can turn CBD isolate powder (cheap) into primarily delta-8-THC and some delta-9-THC (the THC we all know and love) by heating it with zeolite clinoptolite powder (also dirt cheap) - an FDA food safe “supplement” used for metal detox or some gay hippy shit. dont believe me? google it. learn some basic chemistry (i was doing this shit on the hob and in my oven, i’m not a chemist) and been high as shit for years daily.

DO NOT SMOKE ZEOLITE MADE THC. EDIBLE ONLY.

>>507894943
Shrooms are for sodomites.

MDMA is the best drug on Earth in moderation (no more than once a month max and no double dipping). It’s literally impossible to have a bad experience on molly and it’s proven to treat PTSD. Psychedelics (even weed) are too prone to paranoia and extreme reactions.

If I had my way E would have been legalised before cannabis or shrooms.

>>507908551
I'm not suggesting he abuse mushrooms, I'm saying that taking mushrooms daily would be pointless from a recreational standpoint because your body won't care after a few days of consuming a steady diet of them (which honestly probably happened to our ancestors a few times during famines).

amphetemine is just phenethylamine with a MAO-B inhibitor included. you can make crank with plants, my niggers

>>507892318 (OP)
>anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression
Yes
>how'd you do it
Regular mushroom trip once every two weeks with the frens then microdosed sporadically throughout the week when I felt I needed a booster. Occasionally I'd start the trip with a small dose of pure MDMA to get rid of the pre trip anxiety. It's okay to cheat to be happy sometimes anon, just don't regularly dose that shit and keep it small or you will fry your brain and make shit worse.
>how successful were you
Once you face your trauma you realize it was all fake and gay and in your head and you move on with your life. It's not really a chemical imbalance like the experts say.
>what was the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms
Spent $2,000 on Webcam models in one night making them do insane shit for me.

>>507918239
Teen girls literally die on it because they don't know it makes you overheat.

>>507918742
Shouldn’t give drugs to teenagers then. Also I think MDMA is misused as a rave drug. It hits so much harder if you’re around a bonfire on a beach with a few frens.

>>507919226
serotonin

>>507915222
>Excessive heat breaks down psilocybin
It has no psilocybin
I am talking Amanita Muscaria

TAKE TOLERANCE BREAKS
TAKE TOLERANCE BREAKS
TAKE TOLERANCE BREAKS
STOP WASTING PRODUCT

>>507918239
>no double dipping
With mdma I like to take multiple 30mg doses instead of one 100mg. I also load up with a ton of antioxidants since most of the neurotoxity is caused by the fact that it overwhelms the bodies antioxidants immediately after dosing. Quercetin, vitamin C and NAC is like the MDMA cheatcode for no hangover

Muscimol will make you relaxed and sleepy. It's actually a good sleeping aid.
Getting high from these red bad boys? Be careful.

I've only really tripped hard twice but I microdose now and then and it's the only thing I've done that makes me stop being a neurotic fuck worrying about minuta and the future and enjoy the present moment for what it is.

>>507919301
Yes it zonks your serotonin. An absolute max of once per month and no double dipping policy is enough to stay healthy. Plus the comedown is enough to not make you want to touch the stuff for a long while afterwards anyway.

>>507919483
Gonna try this next time. Thanks anon.

>>507892318 (OP)
They are legal, you can get it online right now

>>507918239
You grow out of molly in your 20s, coke is way better.

>>507916801
I talk to myself in third person while on psychedelics and whatever I command ends up manifesting in my body you can literally heal yourself and change behaviors and feelings. Something is not proper in how you behave or feel you can change it. Just don't do these drugs when you don't have a full day set aside for it and the right company or just yourself.

If you want to go hardcore viking mode you feed it your mooses(or maybe some other deer) and then drink their piss!
That's what vikings did.

Of all the drugs including alcohol and so on listed in order of which ones are known for the most harm shrooms are the absolute least harmful drugs.

>>507920458
ok pencil brain >>507911980

>>507919827
this is a fallacy. your serotonin isnt just made from thin air. it comes from resources you consume. it’s all well and good to say “yeah just use it only X amount of time”. you’re not a chemist. i’m not a chemist. you’re not a doctor. i’m not a doctor. people’s body’s differ in size and every individual organ inside every person is different. stuff like MDMA scares me because it depletes a very vital brain neurotransmitter. you need to look at this the same as money, and be a frugal jew cunt. same with sleep “debt”. you need to take care of yourself.

i know guys who done MD every weekend for years and they’re not the same guy they were at 20yo :(
not at all

>>507920700
If you're worried about it depleting your serotonin take 5 HTP 48 hours after your trip, your body metabolizes it into 5-HT and helps restore it to regular levels. Also using melatonin as a sleep aid will theoretically increase serotonin levels as well, since you'll have to produce less endogenously.

>>507892318 (OP)
I went to the lake with my girlfriend (she's in her 20's, I'm almost 40) for a little vacation just hanging out in a camper starting fires and having sex. Her "grannie" who is just a family friend who is a crazy lady who lives in the woods gave us some shrooms so we ate them. It was only like 2.2 grams a piece, but it severely affected me. It was wonderful. I felt the grand unison like I haven't felt in a decade.

You know, all that basic bitch psychadelic shit that's actually true - we're all one, we're all connected, God is real and loves us, etc.

But honestly these things should be kept from the general public, and most people (including my own intelligent self) should severely limit their exposure - MAYBE once every couple years or so.

Truly wonderful substance. Fuck israel btw

>>507920394
>That's what vikings did.
My apologies.
It was syberian tribes. Still fucking mental and metal.

>>507921129
no man!!! do not be eating 5-HTP pills or even fucking turkey meat to restore your “serotonin levels” it doesn’t fuckin work like that.
>just do MDMA once a month brah, be grand!
IT DOESNR WORK LIKE THAT!!!
YOUR BODY DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT!!!
CHEMICAL REACTIONS AND CASCADED EFFECTS TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN YOU OR ME CAN EVEN COMPREHEND. WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND EVEN THEY ARE JUST DRONES REPEATING SHIT FROM THEIR COLLEGE TEXT BOOKS.
BE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE.

>>507920670
One anecdote is all you got there meanwhile instances of self-harm and mutilation and death on alcohol are enormous.

do not fuck with your serotonin by throwing your brain on a rollercoaster of ups and downs. you will breed mental illness

In a newly reported case, a 21-year-old Hispanic man in Texas died after stabbing himself in both eyes with a pencil during a bad psychedelic experience at home. The disturbing event, published in the American Journal of Ophthalmology Case Reports, provides a rare but sobering account of how the effects of psilocybin—the active compound in “magic mushrooms”—can, under certain conditions, result in tragic outcomes. The patient suffered severe brain damage after a pencil entered his skull through his eye socket, ultimately leading to his death despite intensive surgical care.

While psilocybin is being actively explored for its potential to treat mental health conditions like depression and post-traumatic stress disorder, the report underscores the need for greater awareness of potential psychiatric side effects, particularly when the substance is taken in unsupervised settings.

Psilocybin is a naturally occurring psychedelic compound found in certain species of mushrooms. Once ingested, it is converted into psilocin, which alters perception, mood, and thought patterns by stimulating serotonin receptors in the brain. Although it has a long history of traditional use, psilocybin has reemerged in recent years as a subject of modern medical interest due to its possible benefits in treating mood disorders.

Use of psilocybin has surged in the United States since 2019, following changes in public policy and a wave of scientific studies showing promising results. A recent analysis of five national datasets found that lifetime use of psilocybin among American adults rose from 10% in 2019 to over 12% in 2023. Past-year use jumped even more sharply, with a 44% increase among young adults and a 188% increase among those over 30. Despite growing interest in its therapeutic uses, psilocybin remains a federally controlled substance, and adverse events—though rare—can occur, particularly when consumed without medical guidance.

>shrooms killed one spic, based

>>507920670

>The young man described in the case report had a medical history that included attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and hypertension, which he managed with daily medications.

So we're going to ignore he was on kike psychiatric drugs? Those kill people for real.

I don't want to be an asshole that promotes some dangerous shit. Realistically when you see them red Bois just take a bite if you are curious, don't eat the whole amanita because your stomach won't like it. Despite its name amanita contains almost none of that toxic muscarin.

Islam actually works.

Have you tried submitting to God?

if a mushroom has a nipple it will get you fucked up. i had liberty caps growing in my back garden

why is my ID changing every post
DOCTOSSSS

>>507921727
>noo it doesn't work like that
It does actually.
>we are not medical professionals
True, however everything I have recommended is the very basics of harm reduction when it comes to MDMA and comes from medical professionals directly.

>>507922922
but look at it this way, you throw gas on the floor and light it and let it burn. you wash away some of the scorch marks (taking 5-HTP) and then throw gas on the floor and light it again. that floor is gonna have a tar black mark on it again. i’m not anti drugs, i’m anti killing yourself for no reason

I'm lucky to live in one of the few states where psilocybin is de facto legal, it seems like a nice white drug, ironically it's a million times worse in muh heckin red states where you have trailer trash shooting up some of the worst stuff imaginable. >>507921145
>my girlfriend (she's in her 20's, I'm almost 40)
Why did you feel the need to mention that?

>>507918239
>MDMA is the best drug on Earth in moderation
most dangerous to society? yes. 4MMC is the pinnacle party drug, more dopamine than meth, on par for serotonin release with mdma and shit tons of norepinephrine as well as a triple reuptake inhibitor.
>>507919972
mdma is fun once in a while, but 3mmc is better than coke.

>>507923412
>i’m totally enlightened bro
>still feels the need to lowkey brag like a teenager who got laid for the first time

>>507908712
It turns out the word "Vampire" comes from the word "Oupire" and you're not allowed to know about these subjects. They lie to you about his progeny, about what they did, about his kin "eating people" and hurting kids.
His blood was special (you know what having special blood means, surely), just like some of those around him. There wasn't only one ritual (or two), but those belonging to a certain bloodline have blood that contains special capabilities which range from synthesis of hormones (the scale is more what's important) and the susceptibility of certain interactions, to vaguely explain. Being that his blood contained special sauce, it was able to be mixed with other agents, thus producing an altered state of consciousness. What they did during this episode, why they did it and who all genuinely participated (along with to what degree) is all up for debate.
That doesn't mean no one drank some funny wine in a necropolis somewhere either, to be clear.
>that's sort of underwhelming
Until you understand the implications, I'm sure it might.

>>507892318 (OP)
I take golden teacher on a monthly basis. It is fun but I dont pretend it does anything for me other than being a giggly retard. The only actual spiritual or mindbending experience I had was on amanita muscaria and that shit sent me to hell.

>>507892318 (OP)
For depression you want to either microdose and go about your day or do a heroic dose (5 dried grams on an empty stomach, alone, in full darkness and silence) and confront the source of your depression. Obviously do it where you won't be disturbed for the duration and where you feel comforable, prepare food for the comedown and preroll some joints to change the scenery if you don't like it etc etc.
>Lastly, what would you say is the most enjoyable thing you've done on shrooms?
Hiking through pretty nature with a bunch of friends in the summer and then chilling at a lake while peaking. My stomach hurt from the laughing (ideal dose like 2-3 grams for that)
Never do 1 gram, it's the worst dose, too much for microdosing and too little for a proper trip, I always found this dose uncomfortable. If you want to do shrooms at a party with a lot of people just do half a gram.

>>507918343
Yeah, maybe I was just sperging over word choice. This post is accurate.

>>507922922
Medical professionals recommend you jab yourself with pfizer and get blood clots. There training/education isn't amazing, they don't have critical thinking skills or do actual research and experimentation.

>>507894943
>>507915118
>you're
>british also
slave driving niggers
you are the fucking faggots

>>507904136
you need to stop being a fucking jew for 5 minutes
all you did your whole life so far is swallow their formatting
you can't escape the mental framework the jews installed for you, can you?

unironically
>just stop caring bro
is the best advice i ever got, i just didnt understand it

>>507919483
>no magnesium
>no 5-HTP
Amateur. Should've known from your retarded method of intake. Multiple times 30mg never gives you the right peak. When I used to do MDMA I would premake at least 0.25 to 0.35g (rarely 0.4) capsules. The best part of MDMA is the peak when you're melted as fuck. And then making out with yo girl.

>>507892318 (OP)
>Anyone use shrooms as a remedy for depression?
yeah i used them once it was amazing experience i felt like a kid again and then my major depression was completely wiped out and then that effect was fading away gradually with each month being weaker and weaker but still significant after 4 months, at 8-12 months it was unbearable again

don't listen to idiots like him >>507894943 he doesn't know what he is talking about, stfu you normiefag you never had a depression never felt pain

>>507924683
i love kissing

>>507924711
>polish retard cries about depression
It must be hell living as a gay slav

>>507923475
I just can't handle the next day comedown from molly. We dont get that fancy stuff over here. My biggest problem with molly is after 6 hours I want to go to sleep but that shit always kept me up till the morning, at least coke wears off after 3 hours. If I want to stay up all night on drugs ill do acid and bask in the week long afterglow.

nigger

>>507926009
mu guy you had like 10% MD 30% amphetemine and 60% filler bathtub chemicals. that doesnt sound like MD

>>507907661

>>507905469
Imagine thinking fungi needs lots of UV. What a fucking idiot.

>>507912825
>How many cases of jabbing pencils into your brain through your eyes does alcohol have?

>>507892318 (OP)
I took 0.8g one time and it worked great for me
Gave me a different perspective on my crappy childhood, also gave me more empathy yet less tolerance for bullshit
No visual disturbances or anything like that, just felt relaxed and wanted to chill out watching Youtube videos/sitting in the grass
Would recommend

>>507892318 (OP)
is this mushroom edible?

>>507894943
You can dose psilocybin though.
You can by psilocybin edibles legally in Canada. Most weed shops sell it too.
Mushrooms are still illegal. I think mainly because they can be moldy or tainted and make you so sick you can die.

>>507901275
You're retarded and I don't like you but this is true.
t. took shrooms and genuinely thought I was going to die, never again

>>507909315
While I'm surprises thread still here. Yeah I wouldn't recommend hallucinogens for about 90% of people. But if you have a tough mind to begin with they can definitely help you see the bigger picture in life. Don't know how else to put it. They can open a door that nothing else will. I mean with hallucinogens I've literally seen what the mind can do and that's why I believe in aliens and higher beings God's devils witches. The mind is capable of extraordinary things. I get the drugs are for weak bitches. I don't do them anymore and I can't handle them anymore. It's just not fun anymore. Not even drinking. I don't even enjoy that. Getting old sucks. Used to get baked and get into whatever my hobbies were. Can't even do that anymore. Think it's just a brain chemistry change. But I will take at least one last trip it's been about 15 years or so. Take a small dose and see what happens. One of these days. I used to be able to imagine something and then see it 360° in front of my face while on hallucinogens. Like you could grab it almost. Like it came to life. I could see an aunt on the ground and look at it closely and a magnifying glass would pop up in my vision and then I would see that Aunt being a foot big. Believe me or don't but hallucinogens are amazing. Other times I had horrible trips. This is on top of all the crazy anxiety you get while you're on it.

>>507928435
All mushrooms are edible if you first soak them in brine for 24h

>>507926009
have to have something on hand, I like some 7oh after a 3MMC goon sesh or acid adventure to get some sleep.

>>507924683
>multiple 30mg never gives the right peak
The positive effects peak at ~50mg for me. Taking more is useless, 30mg is the sweetspot. Sucks if you need more bro. I also use it exclusively with psychedelics nowadays.
>no magnesium
I take this daily with zinc because I'm a gooner, it's unrelated to my mdma use.
>no 5htp
In the next post

being wide awake for days on end FEELS LIKE SHIT I DUNNO WHY YOU GLORIFY THIS

my id changed again fucking nihher

>>507927705
I've had good molly before and I know the difference between that and stuff that's been cut with bathtub gak, and I actually prefer bathtub gak over molly.

>>507929936
So many things wrong with your post it's not even worth responding to seriously good lord

right now i have four quart jars full of rye almost ready to spawn to bulk
when it's all over, i plan to take at least 20g shrooms with lemontek and go somewhere else for a little while
i hope i find something there

>>507930193
your heart valves wont
my heart is calm as shit when im on any speed. it’s the day after in the detox phase when it’s going BABUMP BABUMP BABUMP, not durinf the high

>>507930194
>can't even name one thing
Retard
It should be noted stimulants produce zero euphoria and only atarxia for me. Suck my nuts faggot

>>507930399
Are you okay potatoanon
Do you need an intervention

>>507930685
i know you fuckers are holding out on good weed, you fuckers grow it in shipping containers. i remember blueberry kush and those bags of weed actually stank of blueberry. now all we get is stardogg or ass-smuggled hash that’s it. stop holdin out britanon

>>507894943
nah, it cured my depression permanently. now i can only get sad and disappointed but not suicidally depressed anymore. it replaces extreme suicidal behavior with "meh" feeling. and it was a one time treatment with a friend and drawing silly pictures together and having a good evening watching anime while microdosed.

>>507931104
you coulda got that with lions mane fruiting body without the scizophrenia

>>507929361

/Pol/, what has happened to you?
You are host to a thousand fleas sucking the blood out of you one stupid comment at a time....

>All mushrooms are edible if you first soak them in brine for 24h

Properly identifying a mushroom that you intend to eat is a lifesaving skill. Toxic or poisonous mushrooms can often look similar to edible ones; the consequence of making a mistake in identification is deadly as irreversible organ failure and an excruciatingly painful death will become inevitable.

>>507931646
if the print doesnt come back purple i dont want it