Thread 507911663

Say the US gets involved, one bunker buster over Fordow.

How does this end? Best case, worst case? Is it truly one bomb and we're done?

>>507911663 (OP)
The Iranian people will welcome us with flowers after just one bomb.

>bombing a nuclear site
have we thought this through?

>>507911847
Current rhetoric says mild release of radiation
I've heard it's the equivalent of a chest x-ray

>>507911847
>have we thought this through?
uranium hexafluoride is highly corrosive and toxic, they will not rebuild the facility

>>507911663 (OP)
IT NEVER ENDS

Tora Bora vibes

it's all a larp, the centrifuges are too deep underground, they would have to drop endless "bunker busters" to make actual damage
they might drop a few bombs and claim they've destroyed Iran's capability blahblabh but it's going to be face-saving lie
Iran will replace the buildings and personal, and continue like nothing happened, and probably go ahead an build atomic weapons because they clearly need them

>>507911663 (OP)
>Say the US gets involved, one bunker buster over Fordow.
>How does this end? Best case, worst case? Is it truly one bomb and we're done?

You remember Chernobyl?

Well its gonna be 100 times worse.

That means lethal radiation in Pakistan India and Russia!

>>507912335
achsually I hear US bombs can literally be dropped in the same hole for cumulative penetration

>>507911663 (OP)
>one bunker buster
The leaked WARNO said they'd be using 6
180,000 tons of FUCK YOU

>>507911663 (OP)
One and done is optimistic. 5500 sq m, the bunker buster bomb supposedly explodes 600 metres wide, so you'll need a few more. There's a good chance someone will survive the explosion for some daft reason like leaving a window open or because nobody is home.

Even if you take out the site they can just build another. There is no long term solution to this other than bombing Iran forever.

>>507911663 (OP)
>one bomb and we're done
You're gonna spend the next 20 fucking years there before you pull out in disgrace.

>>507911663 (OP)
>Is it truly one bomb and we're done?
Iraq II excuse was "saddam has WMD and he can't be allowed to have them".

Saddam is gone, he never had WMD, and we are still there. 22 years later.

>>507911663 (OP)
>best case
the bomber is shot down by israel
>worst case
they drop the biggest most beautiful most american best ever bomb on it, trim off a bit of the rock on top and everyone laughs at the orange retard.

This place is not "in" that mountain, its under it retardedly deep. At best they can fuck up the entrance but it probably has a dozen other entrances drilled from the inside ready to be blown open if needed.

>>507912838
BOMB + REGIME CHANGE

NO MORE AYATOLLAH ASSAHOLA AND HIS ISLAMIC REPUBLIC

THE W*MEN OF IRAN WANT TO BE FREE AGAIN
LIKE DURING THE SHAH

>>507912765
>leaked WARNO
what type of retard do you have to be, to believe that horseshit?

>>507911847
The contamination will be contained underground in Iran. It couldn't be less of a problem.

>>507912838
Nah Iran will be easy pickings now that they don’t have Russian support anymore

>>507911663 (OP)
They've had days to shuffle their crap to other tunnels or dig in deeper.
Whatever material is still in the centrifuges at this moment in time isnt going to affect the current conflict.

>>507913178
>now that they don’t have Russian support anymore
lmao thats the best part, this *is* iran with FULL russian support

>>507911663 (OP)
Yea, just one bomb. That's why there are 3 carrier groups, 50 aerial refuelers, and 10 fighter squadrons deployed to the middle East right now. To watch 1 B-2 drop 1 bomb then clap and go home.

>>507911663 (OP)
Can’t win a war without occupying the enemy, israel can’t do that, USA will somehow someway have to do it for israel

I just don't see how you can look at the billion other examples of government failing, and in particular several examples of failing at regime change in the Middle East, and even entertain this retarded ass idea. It will be a massive disaster because the American government is doing it, there is no other possible outcome because that is the only outcome we ever receive from our inputs. Why the fuck would it be different now? If you can't comprehend this basic logic you might as well just kill yourself.

>>507912564
>worse.
>lethal radiation in Pakistan India and Russia
This is somehow bad to begin with?

>>507911663 (OP)
>one bunker buster over Fordow.
How deep is the bunker is a better question, limit on u.s hardware seems to be 200 feet.

>>507913056
The kind that wants a happening but never gets one

>>507913338
nigger if airplanes could flap they'd be helicopters...or faggots with canards, goofy seal looking faggot planes...

>>507911663 (OP)
One isn’t enough and when warmongers tell you they’re 100% going to succeed it’s usually not true and being done with the pretext of further escalation when it doesn’t work

In other words we will put boots on the ground

>>507911663 (OP)
most likely iran already have T BOMB. that tech is old tech

>>507911847
Modern nuclear weapons DO NOT have the radiation problem that older nukes had!

Have we had the big surprise yet? It's only early here, i have quite a hangover

>>507911663 (OP)
according to the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3cQY4TFVwI
predicted to take weeks/longer of precision strikes by US heavy bombers on the same point to destroy sites.
2 sites are discussed in the video. one, natanz?, is covered in earth which is easier to displace and get to the site underneath. the other, fordow, is covered by granite which will just fall back into the hole, taking longer, and its 600km inside the interior.
tldr: netanyahou never had the capability to do what he said he set out to do. USA doing it for him was the plan all along.

>>507911663 (OP)
Either scenario will result in a large increase of terrorist attacks against the US, both abroad and at home. Worst case probably involves us not stopping their production and then a nuke or dirty bomb is smuggled into the US and detonated. Either way we need to tell the kikes to fuck off.

>>507912593
oh, correct, but we're talking about turning a big mountain into a huge mile-deep crater...
I guess it's doable, but it would take like A LOT of bombs

>>507911847
It's just a bunch of centrifuges there, it's not like it's Chernobyl.

>>507911663 (OP)
I would guess at 3-6 bombs being dropped, depends on how many B-2s are flying the sortie.

>>507912564
>That means lethal radiation in Pakistan India and Russia
And the bad news is...?

>>507911663 (OP)
It will be more than 1 bunker buster. Furdow will get multiple to make sure Nothing survives. Then they’ll drop a few more at other underground targets. That should be it, then they can go back to just shooting down Iranian missiles and drones and let Israel do the rest.

>>507913664
you're the kind of guy who tells everyone about adblockers and then everyone uses it and it gets blocked. Stop telling people, when nukes go off tell everyone the water is poisoned by radiation then you get more water for yourself retard.

What kind of absolute fuckin moron looks at the us track record in the Middle East and says with confidence how easy it’s gonna be lmao stupid fucks

>>507913923
China is just waiting for the U.S to get dragged into boots on the ground in Iran as soon as that happens they're snapping up Taiwan.

>>507913728
Israel attacked the Qatai/Iranian south field gas field. This was an invitation to Iran to attack the Qatari North field.
Not to doom monger but China, S.Korean, Japan, and a bunch of Euro states rely on Qatari LNG, so terrorism is probably the least bad thing that can happen. If you add a closure of hormuz strait then its even more apocalyptic.

>>507913298
I feel like Russia could have just had jets circling over Iran at all times and this would have completely prevented Iran from being struck. It’s a fascinating relationship in which Iran helps Russian air superiority by sending drones, but Russians don’t bother sending some jets to just Hawkeye over the nuclear sites.

No one cares about the nukes, that’s just marketing. Also the centrifuges are too deep all you can do is hit the entrances and power stats delay it. They could do a commando op, but they won’t. What this has been about forever is getting rid of the Iranian regime which is a major security threat to Israel via proxies. Israel wants the U.S. to help with regime change. Not an actual invasion I think Israel understands by now that the U.S. military can no longer do wars, but it could still pummel the regime until it falls apart from internal pressures. The IAF is too small to do it on their own and it’s the only serious combat branch of their armed services.

>>507913571
The trick Israel has been using is to drop repeated bunker busters on the same point, to go deeper. Like hammering a nail

You would several dropped with pinpoint accuracy then regular bombing rubs to stop iran rebuilding their various facilities.
There are no short term options

>>507914311
exactly
this is the aftermath of a failed regime-change operation

>>507913862
Fucking britnigger KIKE.

One likely isn't enough. You would need to bomb on the same general area with bunker busters several times to "dig" to a depth to get it.

Then, depending on the size of the facility, that might still not be enough and you'd have to "bunker bust" in a few different locations to make the facility inoperable.

>>507911663 (OP)
>Is it truly one bomb and we're done?
it's 400m underground in most places bomb does 60m if lucky more like 40m. so no it's not.

>>507913571
ive read low estimate is that the bunkers are like 250 feet down, high estimate 300+

>>507911663 (OP)
>Is it truly one bomb and we're done?
Of course, one bomb and it's done, nuffin to worry about

>>507914026
The U.S. will be in Iran for less than 9 days. China won’t have enough time to move. and also American troops being in Iran isn’t that far form China and fighting two wars would be very possible especially considering that it’s obvious Moscow will betray Beijing if what you’re saying ever happens

>>507914311
How are bombing runs going to cause regime change in a country with a population of 90 million? The only country it worked on was Libya which is a lot smaller

>>507911663 (OP)
Without boots on the ground, the best we can do is push them into China's pocket.

>>507913714
TONIGHT THE WORLD WILL REMEMBER THE GREAT DEEDS OF THE AYATOLLAH FOR 1000 GORILLION YEARS

>>507914332
Yea but strikes aren't perfect and if they're building bunkers, lots of U.S bunkers are like 500 feet so i don't think you'd get perfect hits down to 500. Best you could do it destroy any in/outs to the facility and make sure you get all the hidden ones too.
>>507914472
I'd sell you water like a real jew but you already have that so...
>>507914529
Yea i have no idea how deep this one goes and it might just be too deep to get which is why they might just target any entrances and exits instead.
>>507914610
>be in iran in 9 days
>be in iran for another 10 years
lol
>china wont have time to move
yea ok sure buddy
>fighting two wars is possible
>be magatard
>no new wars
>ok maybe 1 new war
>ok maybe 2
I'm sure that'll go down well.

>>507914861
>Yea but strikes aren't perfect
no, what I hear is you can literally drop them in the same hole and be combat effective

>>507914218
They "sent" drones at a wildly jnflated price paid for in gold bullion. There is not a real military relationship between the two countries and in fact Iran purposefully wanted no part in such a relationship — when they figured that they were the ones who would be depended on. In reality, as we can see, Iran ended up being a clown joke country which couldn’t protect itself from Israel. They can build crappy ballistic missiles using American off the shelf electronics (which trivializes these things any retard can plug them into a circuit board following simple instructions and get a fully working flight control and navigation system) but a real AD network was simply beyond this comically corrupt low-IQ shithole, this is their destiny.

>>507912593
The problem with that is that once their is a deep hole it will refill itself after every strike. My money is on the usa getting friend zoned and not being able to penetrate.

>>507914935
It's one of those things where you have to see it to believe it regarding this particular bunker. Dropping perfect bunker busters over Gaza or some other shit hole might be a breeze but yea we'll see, hopefully because it would be cool to know they can do that.

>>507913559
>>507913856

They will nuke you. This is why it is bad.

>>507915271
death to american and britain?
that's good actually.

>>507915266
MOSSAD FITBIT MAPPED ALL OF IRANS DUMBS

THEY KNOW JUST WHERE TO LAND THE BOMBS TO TURN THEM ALL INTO BIG TUNNELS OF FIRE

>>507915493
was unironically thinking of your pic when the guy was saying they can drop perfect bunker busters into the same hole

>>507914626
The regime is very small, this is a hyper-corrupt peasant kingdom where the vast majority of people are non-participants.it can be hurt enough to cause it to fall apart from internal pressures.

>>507911847
Doesnt sound like our problem.

>>507914610
Trump would be Impeached and imprisoned once the bodybags started rolling in, Iran is fucking massive and Inhospitable with 90m people, it's not the 90s anymore, the current usa millitary would get fucked

>>507915760
sounds like any european country

>>507913728
The only one who is going to nuke you guys ever will be either Israel or China/Russia in a retaliatory attack. Israel will do it just for any reason even when it doesnt make any sense.

>>507913571
>limit on u.s hardware
It's not a hardware limitation, it's a physical limitation that the universe is demonstrating.

Functionally, you get a snow ball impacting against a wall and splattering instead of penetrating the way that a bullet would. But you're not using a snow ball or a bullet against a concrete wall, you're using a missile against hundreds of meters (or more) of solid stone. Pushing through dirt is easy, but dealing with stone... If you slam missiles into the side of a mountain and start "digging a hole" with the explosions, you'll undermine the material above or around the hole and cause a collapse of new material into that hole, functionally setting you back to square one; with more material you need to move out of the way. Each explosion can only move the larger stone so far away from the hole, eventually with a hole so deep that all the ejected material WILL fall back inside of the crater, resulting in no progress... Just an ever-churning mass of ever-finer stone fragments and remnants of prior missiles.

You're not getting through a deep mountain bunker with a single bomb or even multiple bombs. What will happen is that the major vehicle-sized entry points will get collapsed, and the people inside will be evacuated through personnel escape routes, and the utility of the facility will be delayed for months until the entry points are cleared and made ready for use again.
Then they get bombed again.
Then cleared again.
Then bombed.
And cleared.
Bombed.
Cleared.

An endless money sink for the GDP of the USA, until Iran rolls over politically from pressure by its own citizens who are sick of the terror bombings from who-the-fuck-ever wants in on the campaign.

>>507911958
3.6 roentgen at worst.

>>507912564
That makes no sense considering the prevailing winds blow west to east.

>>507915975
If i wanted a chat gpt response i'd ask for it thanks.

>>507915975
>will be delayed for months until the entry points are cleared and made ready for use again.
no, if they suffer uranium hexafluoride leak they will never use this place again

>>507911663 (OP)
They can't bomb it, but they have trained to assault it.
Spec ops on entrance, spec ops in ventilation vents, lol I hope they try this part.
All those mutts killed in Iran will be kino

>>507915271
The street shitters can tongue my anus with the chinks and ziggers waiting. They won’t do shit.

>>507914026
China will lose millions of men on the twelve hour crossing.

>>507915927
wrong, europeons are the most docile niggercattle in history.

>>507912593
That deep it would only colapse and the hole will have a nice tungsten cap

>>507916288
I hope it's televised.

>>507913338
I’m pretty sure they’re there to dissuade third party interference

BTW the real reason why Russia is just sitting back and not even doing a token optics support like sending a few ships down is because Russia values its relationship with Israel much more. That’s all.

>>507915975
it doesn't use explosions to create a hole stupid niggerfaggot.

This is all mis-direction. Israel is dropping a tactical nuke on the Iranian nuke sites. Should happen by Saturday or early next week. You are in a movie and watching one at the same time. On the ground operatives well you will see.

>>507913389
Is it a war or a military operation with the goal of: end Iran’s ability to field a nuclear weapon and talk later?

>>507912564
In terms of fallout - nothing will beat Chernobyl.
A nuclear bomb is nothing in comparison.

>>507916143
Its not mission impossible mate, they are not getting through blast doors before reenfocement arrive and they could just fart in the ventilation system to wipe out anyone stupid enough to try. You would need to invade to get into that bunker and they could just blow it up with everyone inside

>>507916373
Me too. Imagine thousands of ships full to the brim plodding along, all under constant missiles fire for at least half a day. Then the crown on top. Four missiles slamming into the dam flooding 300 million Chinese homes.

>>507916364
again, what I hear is you can actually use it for cumulative hole blasting

>>507916565
I hope they do, it will be incredible to see how the kikes will spin nuking someone.

>>507916512
It kinda does retard

>>507916665
i remember watching iraq getting invaded on tv as a kid, dad bought us some takeaway and we sat infront of the tv watching the bombs drop, kinda wanna relive that.

>>507911663 (OP)
>over
That's not how bunker busters work.

>>507916378
One and done ezpz.

>>507916512
So gravity alone will push metal into a fucking mountain?

>>507916746
There are also teams on the ground in Iran with suitcase nukes. This is only the beginning. I have be outlining all of this is my posts for the last week.

>>507911663 (OP)
>How does this end? Best case, worst case?
It'll end with the millions of muslims imported into the west deciding to go full retribution and terror attacks and suicide bombings become the new normal and we will STILL be sent to prison if we question the merits of immigration.

This is gonna end with a lot more dead whites than dead muslims.

>>507916075
>If i wanted a chat gpt response i'd ask for it thanks.
nigger

>>507916087
the death of scientists working on the first atomic bombs did not stop the project for the USA as a whole, or shut down the site for further use.
they'll bring in some slave labor or death row inmates, tell them to wash the dust that makes the meter go beep into the drain pipes in the bathroom, and once the radiation is at a low enough level to only cause cancer after 3 years, they'll get back to work.
Iran is facing a situation where they can either continue to risk being turned into another puppet state by people more powerful than they are, or they can do a tech rush to nukes by shoveling more bodies into the furnaces to keep the machinery operating until they get their first one.

and then they either get nuked anyways, or everyone panics and suddenly there's a global coalition including the USA, Russia, and China to invade iran and play "capture the flag"
Then carve it up like post-WW2 germany.

>>507913856
If you thought Indian immigration was bad before, imagine when twenty million flood your country en masse to escape the radiation. There'll be millions for you, millions for Germany, millions for France, and tens of millions for the USA.

You'll be revenge killed by muslims in streets filled with shit.

>>507916024
Not great, not terrible.

>>507911663 (OP)
MIGA's won't want to hear this, but it will cost trillions of dollars worth of "bunker busters" to destroy the complex entirely. US and Israeli intelligence in this domain is shit tier. Iran likely has dug deeper and further than they can even imagine. A ground invasion would be equally expensive both in blood and treasure, and likely will be unsuccessful. But hey, companies will make tons of money off the US taxpayers for another 20 years.

>>507917045
Sadly this, fuck America for destroying western civilization.

>>507911847
would be buried under a mountain of stone

>>507916657
They already made the entrances missile resistance, they will have to drill, indeed is not impossible they will just need time, some YouTuber ex millitary talked the details, they have doing those exercises during decades. But I doubt they will have time and they will just die at the entrance

>>507913729
It requires a nuke, which will be detonated at ground-level creating huge amounts of fallout.

>>507917319
>Iran likely has dug deeper and further than they can even imagine.
US has muon and neutrino tomography mapping devices

>>507913716
This much is clear, but Israel is at least appearing to do the legwork and clearing out Iranian anti air assets. My guess is the additional fighter support is to deter Chinese or highly unlikely Russian involvement in opposition to a probably substantial bombing campaign to wipe out the underground facilities

>>507913664
>Modern nuclear weapons DO NOT have the radiation problem that older nukes had!
it will be buried in a salt mine but jews want to irradiate their enemies any way they can
that's why the buried battlefield 3

Space laser will drill a clean hole to the centrifugue chamber.

Worst case get floated out the sky emp down and everything is blown see the helicopter on osama.
Best case hit it and then trigger dominos that would lead to an even worse case. Gotta cia that one.

>>507916565
They're trying to convince Trump to nuke it so Israel doesn't get the blame and labeled a rogue state.

probably, yeah
but if you do that, then iran's only goal in life will be to nuke israel too

>>507916512

Throw a stick of dynamite into a sand dune, make a small crater. Throw another stick, the crater gets larger. Eventually the crater gets deep enough that all of the ejected material is flying out at a 45 degree angle. What angle does sand collapse at, and fall back into the hole, preventing further excavation?
But OK let's imagine instead of letting the dynamite land on the surface, you use a stick to push it 10 meters into the ground and then you detonate it. Where does the sand go?
Nowhere, because the sand wasn't ejected and refilled the void that the explosion temporarily pushed out.

> But there are videos with modern open-pit mining techniques where a set of explosions totally fuck up the rock!
And that rock goes right back into the fucking hole that was made. What do you think the next missile gets to deal with? The same fucking rock that fell back into the hole.

They won't likely breach the facility, if it was built properly (read: deep enough to where the physics of reality tells the bunker buster to fuck off)

They'll bomb the entry points, which are weakest, and DENY ACCESS to the facility. Simple as.

>>507912564
Who knows what effect it will have on the water table/aquifers. Will probably spread for thousands of miles.

>>507917655
Uh huh. Must be how they saw the WMD's in Iraq.

>>507911663 (OP)
Iran fires at US bases and now we have the war niggeryahu wants.

>>507917254
Get this poster to the infirmary!

>>507911663 (OP)
Israel knows GBU-57s won't do the job. Its just an excuse for land invasion, the only way to destroy Fordow.

>>507918448
What about B61s?

>>507916819
I remember when my uncle got back he showed us footage of them rolling into Baghdad on HMMVs with their machine guns out and everyone had guns pointed out the doors and tanks were rolling in. It looked so fun.

the manufacturer of MOP claims 8 meters of concrete. Irananian super hardened concrete how far do you think it will go? I would love to hear from the manufacturer what their estimate is.