Could the US really hit Iran's nuclear infrastructure and or overthrow their government without facing any type of repercussions from China and Russia?
>>507928538 (OP)They want us to bomb the mountain and then back out. It's a dice roll. Can we get away with that? They don't care they're going to play the cards.
We should swoop in and attack both of them while they are distracted.
>>507928538 (OP)Won't happen. Israel already said they'll do it alone, which means Trump has rejected their proposal.
Get ready in the next week for Kike seething about 'lives being lost' because Trump wouldn't act. The turn around will happen fast.
>>507928538 (OP)from china absolutely
from russia, maybe some repercussions
iran is russia's caspian sea neighbor, it's only gateway to the mena region
>>507928699>They want us to bomb the mountain and then back out.Even Israel knows this won't really work. But it knows its just a way to entice the burger into using his special toys which will eventually require ground forces to complete.
>>507928538 (OP)Yes. China and Russia only support Iran in the sense they are a pain in the ass for the Western world. They dont actually care and them getting toppled isn't significant for their economy in any way
>>507928538 (OP)didnt pakistan say they would also get involved or was that just for a nuking situation
>>507928538 (OP)Humanitarian help only
If they wanted to give any security guarantees to Iran they had years for that. It's not in their interest to face the wrath of Israel.
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iranian-american here to give my diasporoid opinion
>1) Can the US damage Iran's nuclear infrastructure?
The us may be able to take Fordow out of operation. Even if they are able to disable the site, they are probably not likely to destroy it. And even if they were able, the Iranian state has other sites and other stockpiles which may be secret
>2) can the US overthrow the government?
not through air strikes alone. it would require a ground campaign which isn't coming. Overthrowing the government will require the participation of the Iranian people. The people by and large want a new government. They are very unhappy with the current one. But they don't want the country to come apart at the seams and they do not want chaos. At the same time, Iranians are very scared by the bombings and there has been a rally-round-the-flag effect. I think if there is a ceasefire and things cool down for a while, people will get angry again and an uprising against the Islamic Republic may materialize
>3) can they do this without facing any repercussions from Russia and China?
yes probably. The Chinese and Russians are best seen as "partners" of Islamic Iran. Not "allies" in a traditional sense. I think both the Russians and Chinese would be happy to see a new government that was not religiously ideological and was a more rational actor. Both China and Russia have ties to Israel and China's reliance on trade with the west is well-known. But the iranians have tricks up their sleeve as well. if they choose to they can severely hamper or close off entirely the oil trade through the Persian Gulf and could destroy the oil and gas facilities in the Persian Gulf. They can do this from land using anti-ship, cruise, and ballistic missiles. Whether or not the Iranian regime will do this is I think unlikely. The regime's number one priority now is survival. But if they chose to do their own "Samson Option", the world would see economic consequences not seen since the oil shock in the 70s.
>>507928538 (OP)>Could the US reallyyes. there is not a square inch within the solar system we could not anihilate.
You exist because we allow it
>>507928699>They want us to bomb the mountain and then back out.the nuclear plant they are kvetching about is 90m underground, US bunker busters can penetrate up to 60m.
It's not in any way just a quick in and out bombing run
>>507929709>60mThats the kinda bomb we share with bitch-ass countries like yours (1/100th the size of the US economically, in land mass and ball size).
We really have weapons that would turn the earth's core into vapor.
We should've bombed your country during ww2 btw, you've proven to be a useless ally
>>507928538 (OP)we could overthrow russia and china and they wouldn't do shit
>>507929517It would be interesting if they can withstand the regime change attempts.
Also i heard kikes already have chosen the new Iranian leader. Which amusingly is the son of the shah. How ridiculous is that.
Anyway all the strength to the people living there. Hopefully they manage to resist kikes and its vassals onslaught.
>>507929929>ahhh you see goy we have secret bunker busters that we only use for emergencies like our Israeli mastters being attackedYou live in an occupied country mutt
>America big and strong>*gets completely subverted and corrupted by a group of parasites*nothing more cucked than a patriotic Amerigolem, if you forget who owns you take a look at yopur mutilated genitals.
>>507928538 (OP)China doesn't want any of that smoke, not even a little. Russia is probably going to send chinesium drones and ordnance, though.
This is somewhat beneficial for Russia and China
Of course they don't want Iran to fall if possible
But America being stuck in the middle east fighting insurgents for decades more gives them more options
>>507928538 (OP)>russiawon't do shit
>chinawill probably sell weapons to iran for lulz, and america won't do shit.
china and russia want to do the bare minimum to help iran as long as they don't crumble
they are hoping iran is a third afghanistan/iraq and all the ammunition gets depleted here