can an oldfag explain the ron paul era to a retarded zoomer? what was he missing to be as successful as trump and MAGA

He tried to stop this

>>507933258
He wasn't one of (((the tribe)))

>>507933005 (OP)
>what was he missing to be as successful as trump and MAGA
Jewish media support.

Trump's job for his Jewish owners is to co-opt Ron Paul's very popular agenda, and murder it.

Ron Paul would be leading in all GOP polls and straw polls until the RINO-ZIO faction could steal back control.

Trump himself said the GOP was even worse that DNC when he was killing RINOs in 2016 and DNC was screwing Bernie.

>>507933563
PS-when Jewish media is hand wringing about Trump being a disruptive destructive force Americans need to be warned about, that is The Jews going all in FOR Trump as a fake anti-system guy.

>>507933005 (OP)
Social media wasn't as widespread when he ran, and the media was able to completely ignore and stifle him. It was sad to see.

>>507933005 (OP)
The media completely railroaded him. Fox News only reported on other candidates, even though he was still in the race. I am old enough to remember one news station even did a segment where the reporter said
>”And on the other side of this bus is candidate Ron Paul”
As in they wouldn’t even show him on TV. They went to the other side of a campaign bus and broadcast from there.

>>507933005 (OP)
Social media was a big part of how we got here, /pol/ didn’t even exist at the time yet for the first run.

>>507933005 (OP)

He didn’t have charisma for an avg crowd. He appealed to libertarian men but felt kooky to everyone else.

If he could have normiflaged his ideas and be a good public speaker, he coulda gone places.

Also, the msm empowers that be had no interest in promoting him since he wasn’t their shill.

>>507933005 (OP)
The zog disease was terminal by that point in time newfren. Many could see still see the truth but were silenced and so severely outnumbered by the cattle that it never had any hope of succeeding. Contextually it was near the zenith of the empire and the average person was still doing quite well. Within a decade it had all come crashing down.

>>507933005 (OP)
The Ron Paul movement was a rejection of the wars, bailouts, and loss of civil liberties in the 2000's, along with a call to return to Constitutional values. The nation wasn't ready for it then, and especially after Obama, the world isn't ready for it now.

>>507933005 (OP)
Trump won because they didn't take him seriously. They encouraged him to rise in popularity because they thought he would lose to Hillary. If they knew he could win, he would have been kneecapped like Ron Paul or Bernie early on.

>>507933005 (OP)
Like others have said, unless you lived through it, you wouldn't believe just how crushing the media censorship was when it came to Ron Paul. For many, it was our first redpill. This is a pretty good compilation of some of the more obvious examples, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_uvhsvPdEo

>>507933005 (OP)
Ron Paul was a 80's era porno actor famous for having a giant hog. Picrel is what he used to look like.

>>507933005 (OP)
>what was he missing

Mostbof country getting news from TV.

>>507934100
>He didn’t have charisma for an avg crowd. He appealed to libertarian men but felt kooky to everyone else.

He felt weak and that was a big deal.

>>507933005 (OP)
A personality. He comes off as a stiff old man.

>>507934713
>rejection of the wars, bailouts, and loss of civil liberties in the 2000's

It amazes me how the left wing was once against all this until Obama started doing it and they just hopped on board with it. That guy was basically a bigger war hawk than Bush during his first term and massively expanded the NSA surveillance program during his second.

It's also disheartening how much digital decay has erased much of the great stuff that was out there at the time, either by becoming lost media or by being completely hidden by the algorithm. Pro-Ron Paul videos would regularly get hundreds of thousands to millions of views on YouTube.

>>507934465
This is true too, OP. All you gotta do is watch the exchange from 56:33 - 59:00 on this video
https://youtu.be/bQKG3CDFV5Y?t=3394 to get a gist of the zeitgeist of the times and how neocon the general Republican was.

libertarians were only cool because post cold war the western left/communism was in a coma and the far right were a joke. So you had libertarians, are the cool republicans who smoke weed calling out the neocons.
Unfortunately for them they had no answer to the question of demographic change or immigration so they fell off in the 2010s. also trump winning woke up the far left from its coma. and the alt right made being fashy cool for a time.

>>507933005 (OP)
The boomercons hated Ron Paul and his platform. They treated him like a pariah. Between limited media coverage and brainwashed boomers still drunk on the neocon kool-aid, he had no way of winning the primaries.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2831296/posts

>>507933005 (OP)
He just wasn't charismatic enough. The only two groups he really appealed to were neo-confederates and dude bro weed types. He was an outsider in a time where outsiders had no chance of winning.
Plus the media cuckolded him beyond all belief.

Same thing will happen with massie(nu-paul) btw, and it will be funny to watch /pol/ cope if it's still around. Literally his only hope is to run as an independent, which is an electoral death sentence. That, or he becomes AOC's VP.

>>507936608
Massie would be a decent governor. I think that is his ceiling. He was friends with Ron DeSantis for years, seems like a similar trajectory.

>>507933005 (OP)
Basically this,
>>507936169
>>507936492
Plus people trying to get their blogs to be popular, and trying out this newfangled thing called YouTube and starting the first sprouts of this new website called WikiLeaks.
Also 3d printing guns got off the ground and people still thought Bitcoin could overthrow the federal reserve system once enough people bought into it.
To be this young and idealistic once again, I wish.

>>507933005 (OP)
The problem is you, zoomer:

Ron Paul actually had principles. You retarded niggermonkeys have none. That's why you are so gullible to fall for the mouthpiece of oil barons and corporate monsters Donald Trump.

So, basically: Your parents, who are also retarded, were too fuckin' stupid to listen to a little bit of uncomfortable-but-sane reasoning - and they started chimping out via the teaparty.

There hasn't been a smart Republican since Bush Sr. and it's a reflection of the increasingly smooth brains of the Republican voter

>>507934713
I swear democracy is most brain damaging substance on earth.
how any /pol/ regular can voice opinions like this and not see the problem is that democracy is fake and gay, that TPTB just shove whoever the fuck they feel like into the role of figure head fake leader, the most butt hurt causing, demoralizing antagonist they can think of, well it's beyond me frankly.
ron paul never had a chance because nobody has a chance. only the most colossally selfish retards on the planet, the male brain equivalent of tiktok whores, the most clout hungry, entitled no self awareness retard faggots will ever be chosen for these jobs because they are the golems among golems. you don't get good government because fuck you that's why. government is about control and control is about fear and misery. they are only here to terrorize us. the actual management of this planet happens because god is providing for us in spite of all the oppression. these fuckers have zero control of the economy, they only control the market of fear mongering.
imagine thinking the government would ever do anything that wasn't just pure evil and absolute lies.
Jesus Christ.

>>507933005 (OP)
republican party wouldn't let him campaign and sabotaged everything he did basically

>>507933005 (OP)
Fox News was basically the opinion maker, and they shat on Ron Paul, mocked him, ect. Treated him as a joke candidate. So all the normies just accepted that. Explaining why he wasn't successful is the same discussion that would explain how powerful legacy media still was.

>>507936810
>There hasn't been a smart Republican since Bush Sr.
He was CIA director for fucking Reagan during the height of Iran-Contra and coke smuggling into the US. He's as guilty as the rest, fuck off.

>>507936608
post trump i could see massie winning. that libertarian guy won in Argentina, so its not completely impossible, especially in the internet age

personally i think libertarians are dorks though

>>507937074
Anon, you retard, I said 'smart' - not 'ethical'.

There hasn't been an ethical Republican since Lincoln, and there hasn't been a smart Republican voter since the Dixiecrats became the Republicans.

Anyways: You're a retard. Gain some reading comprehension.

>>507933005 (OP)
Great man but lacked the charisma that trump has.

>>507936810
Ron Paul would literally kill any service ever provided free as a governments responsibility and poor every ounce of federal taxes into corporate socialism, stazi level police to boot stomp any dissent and ten trillion a year for the military if he could.
Then this little weanie cried like a girl and called the cops after his neighbor tackled him for refusing to respect property line boundaries.

I’m literally so fucking sick of you slimy faggots that would suck the balls of any politician or candidate in the world that isn’t part of AIPAC but is an honorary meme jew by behavior alone.

>>507933005 (OP)
rizz
he had the memes but it was too early for a meme president
4chuds signal strength was not yet enough

>>507937556
No gamer gate

>>507937385
I am actually interested how you think Bush sr is “smart” and Trump somehow is not smart?

>>507937550
> poor every ounce

Russbot detected.
Ivan's opinion disregarded.
Try harder, bot.

>>507933005 (OP)
Allegiance to Israel

>>507937550
That was his son who called the cops

>>507937674
nta but nixon and bush sr were smart but evil.

bush jr and trump are kind of dumb but have charisma so they bulldoze through the competition of robot politicians

>>507933005 (OP)
>what was he missing to be as successful as trump and MAGA
He was old as shit and didn't have the charisma or a catchy slogan like Obama did.
He also didn't have the backing of the RNC at that level. No amount of votes will get a candidate through primaries if you aren't endorsed by your party apparatus.

>>507937674
Bush Sr.: Naval Pilot (requires brain), Yale as an Alma Mater (requires brain), could actually speak clear, coherent english (requires brain).

Trump: Born into his parents real estate business (Retarded), Was a massive pussy and claimed bone spurs to avoid the draft (Fake, Gay, and Retarded) ,Business Major from Wharton (Retarded), can't form a coherent idea to save his life without a crowd of assistants around him clarifying 'what he really meant!' so you retards can act like he isn't worse-off than Biden ever was.

Anyways: It's Joever for you

>>507935900
Just like how the right used to be against these things but now deep throats the boot when trump does it. Almost like 99% of people are retards who have no beliefs beyond "us good, them bad".

>>507933005 (OP)
Fuck THIS! Fuck you! He NEVER called OUT THE JEWS! GO TO HELL.

I don't think Ron Paul realistically could have stopped this. Congress has super majorities to simply override any veto and he endorsed the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan which showed Ron Paul would bow to pressure to invade.

>>507933005 (OP)
he never really did anything. he didn't pass any libertarian legislation while in congress. he couldn't get anyone behind him in a group, always standing alone and constantly complaining without ever having any real power.

and then, years later, when he is invited to work with the DOGE team- he says 'no.' what the fuck was his problem? why wouldn't he take power when it was offered to him? why was his role always limited to being an obstinate complainer and nothing more?

>>507937385
> Lincoln ethical

kys zog

>>507938108
You sound like an insufferable fag , is that coherent enough for you.

>>507933005 (OP)
It was the first russian psyop.
It's sad to see that everything that comes out, doesn't matter if good or bad, it's always a psyop by someone trying to subvert

>>507933005 (OP)
The 2011 debate where they completely ignored, drowned him out and the audience of scumbag rich bitch donors boo'd him for being sane was when I realized there is no political solution.

>>507938493
hahaha, stay butthurt

The confederacy lost, and we'll kill it again! :D

>>507938588
I accept your surrender, weakling.

>>507938440
He wasn't offered a serious position within DOGE, and besides that, he's fucking 89. He was born in the same year as Elvis Presley.

>>507938755

>>507933005 (OP)
The debates are comprimised of questions that require hour long answers but only have time for 1 minute voice clips. While Ron Paul had detailed, logical answers, none of that mattered because everyone's attention span could only last for a 30 second clip on whatever news program they happened to watch.

Ron Paul wasn't the first one of his kind, there are people like Ross Perot who also had answers that he could explain to the American public, but they shut him out of the debates. He then used his wealth to buy his own air-time, not too dissimilar to Trump using Twitter and Facebook in 2016, to circumvent the political machine.

The best thing about Donald Trump was that he was a media guy and understood how people consumed the news. Long complicated answers to long complicated questions would never get you anywhere with the American public. You need to have quick snippets that entertained the masses.

There will be "Oldfags" that try to insult you for being a zoomer, but trust me when I tell you that nothing has changed. Tiktok hasn't done anything new, people have always had shitty attention spans, they just stopped shoving Ritalin down your throat these days.

>>507933005 (OP)
Ron Paul had the most 20/20 hindsight of anybody out there.
He was like Barry Goldwater, but enormously more faggy.

>>507937385
>muh smart vs ethical
I wonder how smart it is to consistently take advantage of one's constituents like a cynical piece of shit in the way that Bush Sr. and the rest of the Republicans did, especially the neocons.
People like you kill countries and nations, go fuck yourself.

>>507933005 (OP)
The Republican Party was never going to allow Ron Paul on the ticket

>>507933005 (OP)
The media blacked out. And the internet culture, which was still mostly nerdy white men due to absence of iphones, was divided into either seeing him as a joke or supporting him. Libertarians were often mocked as weird cultists obsessed with gold/silver. This is because the fraud of the Federal Reserve Note wasn't quite as obvious as it is today, you could still get a McDoubles for a buck and rent a 2 bedroom apartment for $450 a month. It is like the Titanic, the first lifeboats that deployed almost empty because no one really thought the ship was going to sink. by the time people realized the ship was sinking and sinking fast, there were almost no lifeboats left.

>>507933005 (OP)
There was a total media blackout on him. That's what really killed his campaign.

>>507938440
>always limited to being a complainer and nothing more?
our guy

>>507933005 (OP)
He had the best policies for the people but was against the fed which is obviously a no no because so many ((people)) are in power because of the fed and fractional reserve banking. I'll never forget the news showing the front runners for who got most donations they showed the top five but started with number two. RP was number one, of course but that's the shit they were pulling back then and today and for always

>>507936073
Very insightful video fragment. Thank you.

>>507933005 (OP)
>what was he missing to be as successful as trump and MAGA

Boomer loyalty to the Status quo, media black out, slander, "Kooky". Trump took all of Ron Paul's popular topics and made them his such as State's rights, reduce spending, slash size of Government, Alternative currencies.
Basically Trump is popular because he tried to copy Ron Paul's message, although he's not living up to it.

>>507939376
Quick, anon - say this while also saying you voted for Trump.

Prove you're retardation with this admission, please.

The problem with Ron Paul was his fanbase was 99.9% internet derived in an era where the internet didn't drive the overall culture anywhere close to it does now. Was Ron Paul super popular in internet spaces? Absolutely...internet spaces where normies had never heard of, let alone browsed. More importantly though, people don't really like libertarianism all that much. Ask Democrats if they support broad legalization and no wars, sign them up. Ask them if they love deregulation and as little taxation as possible, and that's a no-go. The opposite is true for Republicans.

>>507933005 (OP)
>what was he missing to be as successful as trump and MAGA
Lies.
Comforting and audacious lies.

>>507935292
This is EXTREMELY enlightening, thank you very very much for this link

>>507941438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM

>>507933005 (OP)
The dissident right wing wasn't strong enough and established enough to capitalize on his wins at the time.
Some will point to that the political environment wasn't suited for him winning, but it was how their establishment wronged him that we noticed.
Pattern recognition.
Trump broke through by destroying the safety barriers that the GOP establishment set up in his campaign.
Through the adversity over 10 years, we became stronger and wilder with each era and adapted our politics accordingly.
Memories from that foundational time erode, but it was what led us to our current political development.
We will be free.

Time is a flat circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4B8XVqBUmM

>>507935292
Jesus I didn't remember how bad it was.

>>507933005 (OP)
He's an old loon who's politics comes from the 1780's.

God I wish is son was based.

>>507937550
>Then this little weanie cried like a girl and called the cops after his neighbor tackled him for refusing to respect property line boundaries.
That was RAND PAUL, his son you stupid monkeh

>>507935292

he was a lolbertarian. everyone hates them