So, just like there are economic markers - re - a gallon of gas usually costs the same as a gallon of milk, and the Pizza Principle (a subway ticket and a slice of pizza cost the same in NYC) - what is the corresponding value/price indicator for the housing market? It got me thinking - if we can identify whatever that thing is - it would make it easier to see when housing got totally out of control. surely there is a correlating marker. what is it?

>>507975935 (OP)
A house cost the same as adopting a child without papers.

>>507976233
that's one idea. Grok said maybe the price of gold is correlated.

~260 ounces of gold.

https://www.longtermtrends.net/real-estate-gold-ratio/

>>507977515
thanks!

>>507978391
What's the deal with Italian real estate prices, population decline?

>>507978537
Not decline, but stagnation. Which is of course a good thing, because only retard would think the limited Earth can house unlimited growth of population.
Also unlimited population growth reduces wages while increasing cost of housing, having infinite cheap labor stifles innovation and creates another india - what is the incentive to innovate or automate when you can buy a dozen jeets for pennies to do what a robot would do.

In fact the Black Death killing 1/3 of Europe's population is what led to abolition of serfdom and ultimately industrialization - when the worker's bargaining position improves his salary and living conditions to the point he is "too expensive", then industrialization and automation follows to replace him, freeing him up to better more productive things

As long as jews are alive and flood White countries with infinity jeets, we will never get a techno-utopia where most of the labor is replaced by automation.
Compared to pre-industralization where 90% of the population worked in agriculture simply to feed themselves and a few others, we already replaced most of that labor with machines.
And we can always go further, the only thing stopping us is the jews and their jewery, who don't only want to not work but also to not innovate, they thrive in parasitic enterprises like banking and rentiering which provide no value whatsoever - no innovation nor labor.

Combine this with the fact that currently in our advanced economies, the incoming third world masses do not actually improve our economy but they COST us, we are being immensely held down from our path of progress due to kikes and niggers.

>>507979739
If we were back on track and got our White ethnostates back again, the prosperity we'd have after removing the parasites would be immense. In fact that is how NSDAP Germany SEXTUPLED their economy in just SIX YEARS, lifting Germans from being poor shackled to jewish bankers to becoming the richest-per-capita in the world, was simply by removing the parasites and creating sane economic policy that benefit the Whites.

Some people are so full of jewish propaganda that they really think that having (((international financiers))) sucking all our profits is achsually good for us and it trickles all down or something.

For example, a israeli jew called Chaim Zabludowicz (croatian for "deceiver son") owns 40% of all land in downtown Las Vegas.
This means that every person living on that land, improving that land, using it for business, etc. basically half the people doing anything in Las Vegas are paying billions in rent to a jew that does absolutely no labor.
This makes no sense, and is absolute insanity, why the FUCK should someone from a foreign hostile tribe own your tribal lands just to rent them back to your tribe?! Total and utter insanity. Foreigners should not be able to own White lands.

>>507979848
And if thats not enough...it only gets worse.
Because some jews fuck the White people twice.
Not only do they have to deal with depressed wages and rising housing prices because of all the non-whites, but in cases of socialized housing like section 8, the non-whites gets housed on Whites dime and the jew gets the rent-check.

So not only did you have to buy a much much more expensive house than it should have been, but you're now paying taxes to pay the jew a rent-check to house non-whites.

Example Section 8 rent-check for 2BR ghetto-ass apartment in NYC is $3,027/month
>https://www.nyc.gov/site/nycha/section-8/voucher-payment-standards-vps-utility-allowance-schedule.page

So it goes like this
>be Jewish
>jewish in-law who works at the bank makes sure you get approved for a loan
>buy 20 nigger storage units
>niggers come in with section 8 vouchers in hand
>get paid $3,027/month per
>$60,540/mo or $726,480/yr of completely free money, extracted from the backs of the White taxpaying working-class
>money which the kike worked 0 hours for
>all the while enjoying watching White society disintegrate itself and Whites paying Jews for their own destruction
>the entire business model is scamming Whites
>they already functionally have a thousand gentile slaves each paying tribute

>>507979893
>How to make housing affordable again?

When the White family no longer has to compete with the rent checks that 20 jeets put together are going to pay the jew that is going to buy the house for rentiering purposes
>oh sar you whitey are too princes you must live in squalor like we jeets do 20 to a house
No, fuck off jeet, get the fuck out of my country.
>shlomo here, you should allow me to buy lands and properties in your country so i can rent them to jeets or even back to your own people
No shlomo, you need to be put in a gas chamber

In a nutshell what we should do
1) laws that ONLY native Whites can own land & property
2) laws that ONLY native Whites can go into parliament, government jobs, or any positions of power
3) laws that ultimately will close the doors from nonwhite foreigners, strip the citizenships from nonwhite people that have gotten them and expell them from the country

And if you think 3 isn't possible, thats just the jew talking to your ear. In 1923 America, before jews removed the White-only immigration laws, there even was a Supreme Court case (United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind), where a jeet had slithered into USA and then tried to "we wuz Aryan" so he would not be deported. The Supreme Court laughed out the jeet out of the country, and they ruled that not only must that jeet be deported immediately but that if there are any jeets in USA that have been accidentally given citizenship, their citizenships must be revoked and them deported immediately too.

It really is that simple, by implementing those 3 options housing prices will immediately fall to normal levels.
Of course NatSoc type laws where families get zero-interest loans and 20% get forgiven for each White child, plus disincentivizing parasitic practices like rentiering would further help the economic situation of families and from that also the White birthrates, but that isnt as important as keeping foreign parasites out of your housing market.

>>507979937
In fact, most of societal ills can be melted away with two simple steps

1) kill all the jews
2) deport all the non-whites

It's literally that easy to fix everything from stagnating wages, to societal decay, to crime, to affordability of housing.

>Why the order is important?
If you don't do 1 first, the jew will try to sabotage you every step of the way of taking your White country back. Remember, it was the jew that destroyed the White-only immigration policies in the first place, and it will be the jew fighting you trying to reinstate it.

However, dead jews do not push for multiculturalism.
Dead jews won't stop you from taking back your country.
That is something that alive jews do.

>The reason you fight for an open society is because that's the only society that you can live in, as a Jew unless you become a nationalist and only fight for your own rights in your own state.
- George Soros (NY Times 17/7/2018)

>>507975935 (OP)
price per square foot, politics?

>>507979739
It’s always fascinating to see how many different people claim the wage-productivity decoupling as proof of their own argument.

I have seen it posted as obvious, unequivocal proof of the effects of
>exiting the gold standard
>globalization of trade
>peak oil
>the postwar reconstruction of Europe
and now immigration

>>507975935 (OP)
A house used to equate to one year of the purchasers wage. At least that's what people who bought their house in the 40s told me

>>507980114
The problem in the US is that Whites abandon their neighborhood as the house gets old and then either poor move in if the house sale is affordable, or a wealthy foreigner moves in demolishes the house and rebuilds it.

This leads the entire neighborhood eventually getting bought up by people who are poor (niggers, spics, chinks) Or wealthy globalist foreign bankers (Jews) who are will increase Jewish activity in your city.

All the Whites end up moving slightly outside of the city into suburban areas, gated communities or country clubs.

So lets say you are a poor white guy and just want to play vidya and work your shitty job and escape the rat races then you have no choice but to move into poor neighborhood with all the niggers and spics.

>>507980060
Those would be false. Immigration, i.e. supply of labor, obviously has a direct effect on cost of labor that is unequivocally true for anyone that is not a fucking retard.

>exiting the gold standard
That was untenable from the start, capitalism simply cannot work with the currency tied to anything tangible. To be able to make profits, the amount of currency in circulation needs to constantly grow, and if you don't realize why this is impossible if its tied to a tangible finite item then you are complete retarded.

>globalization of trade
This can move production to elsewhere in the world, and obviously lose jobs somewhere and bring them somewhere else. It has nothing to do with the wage-productivity decoupling though, as the graph is looking at it locally, so argument that globalization is behind it is simply retarded.

>peak oil
Again nothing to do with the wage-productivity decoupling. If anything the rising energy prices leading to less use of energy could - but not necessarily does - affect the productivity slowing its growth. It has nothing to do with the coupling of productivity to wages, though.

>the postwar reconstruction of Europe
This is the same argument as globalization. Nothing to do with it.

Only two things can affect the wage-productivity coupling, one is supply of labor, and another is legislation.
So the two sides of it is artificially increasing supply of labor by importing the third world to first world countries. This side will depress wages regardless of the policies.
Other side is policies like taxes and regulation. The worst of it started in 80s with Reaganomics, where Ronald Reagan's jewish hollywood friends told him that he should both cut the taxes for the rich but also remove all the regulations from financial markets, leading to widespread financialization of everything that made the economy "fake" filled with complex derivative financial instruments. Thatcher did the same in UK, and the rest of the White world followed.

>>507975935 (OP)
>a gallon of gas usually costs the same as a gallon of milk
Guess how we all know you still live with mommy and she does all the shopping.

>>507981104
>That was untenable from the start, capitalism simply cannot work with the currency tied to anything tangible.
This is by the way what it means in national socialism that the currency is "backed by labor".
What it really is that the money will be printed debt-free interest-free by the State Bank, instead of the current central banking system where the money is created by "loaning" it from the jews, i.e. you are on the hook to jewish private bankers for the loan and its interest even though it came from thin air.
So instead of being printed from thin air by jews, its printed from thin air by the government and given out as exchange for labor, building infrastructure projects, teaching kids at schools, fighting fires and crime, etc.
That is the "labor" it is backed by, but essentially its still backed by nothing just like the currency currently isn't.
The thing is that the currency we now use is really actually backed by nothing, because the jews that "loan" it dont provide anything of value, no labor, nothing, it just gets printed into existence without anything in return. The current system is completely insane, so insane that the jewish (((international financier))) will do anything to keep it alive, including sending golem forces to destroy Germany that extricated itself from it.

Plus the economy is structured in a way that disincentivizes parasitism like rentiering, and also shuts out foreign investors, keeping all the prosperity inside the nations borders, no international jew stealing the profits that your people worked for.
>https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf