Are you physically weak, /pol/?

>>507998708 (OP)
I can go years without lifting and still deadlift 500 pounds.

No.

This isn't political either.

Just because some pseudointellectual political grifter moron is talking about it doesn't mean it's relevant to /pol/itics.

>>507998708 (OP)
>molymeme
>in 2025
Got back to /fit/ faggot.
We are all gping to make it gay brehs kek

>>507998843
>Let's stinger men define hin

I'm so sick of these grifting faggots. We are not part of the same tribe, we don't even live within a few hundred miles of each other. Me being "weak" doesn't effect you, for Christ's sakes we have guns. Get another hobby roid fag, your genetics are aesthetic only in our modern world.

>>507998708 (OP)
Why do fags want me in the gym all the time?

there are natural limits to this
>>507998803
there are natural limits and it's clear he knows nothing
>if you're physically weak
bro come on

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting doesn't necessarily make you strong tho. I don't lift but I have worked with large animals most of my life and can push them around. Are you stronger and weigh more than a bull? A horse? A pig? Doubt it. I will use leverage and damage you permanently. I don't need show muscles.

>>507998708 (OP)
I'm glad our irish friend has found lifting in his old age.

wtf - when did he became culturist? I remember him as some scrawny lolbert desu

>>507998708 (OP)
Every single time

>>507998708 (OP)
Practical strength and stamina is built with the kind of hard work only a man can do. Only homosexually coded metropolitan substance abusers lift in worship of their own narcissism, fundamentally on every level just women in men's bodies. Only a female brain can envision something as asinine as paying some limpwrist in a speedo to use his gym when you can build something useful out of stone in your back yard for free.

>>507999130
are you overweight?

>>507998708 (OP)
I don't lift and I can already tell you that's fucking bullshit.
In fact, faggots who lift to "fit in" and "be attractive" are whiny cunts.

I don't care what you think of me. I don't care if you think I'm weak. You can try fucking with me and find out.

>>507999315
I've had these fuckers who go "So whats your gym routine?" and its like "fucker I build houses, that's it" and one had the gall to be like "lol you must miss out on a lot of exercise!"
just hate these goddamn zoomers whose life is "the gym". I work out too I don't do it with energy drinks and vapes and tiktok you little faggots

>>507998708 (OP)
The riddle of steal. I'm capable but choose not to. I'd rather create something.

I do lift and im half jewish. How u gonna let a jew like me manhandle you /pol/??

>>507999428
I >>507999618
have manhandled people like u multiple times. Yall dont understand how physics works.

>>507999361
No. I have some stores, but I drink alot of beer and eat like shit. I'm like 6'1" and 225. I'm 40. But I can work hard in the field all day digging holes like a nigger, if I feel like it, sweating like a slave. Playing sports when you are younger helps alot too. Muscle memory and building structure and shit.

>>507998708 (OP)
I know a lot of corn-fed Midwestern boys - they look fat, but they are deceptively strong under the blubber. They don't lift, but they can put you down in a single punch - they push farm animals around and throw hay bales all day, and a cow weighs a lot more than you, no matter how much you deadlift.

I also know a lot of guys who look skinny but they're built like snakes - they're whipquick and got those long twitch muscles that can do a lot of damage, even if they look like twinks.

The gym is for show muscles. You don't need show muscles to be strong.

>>507998708 (OP)
i have the exact same opinion but instead of lift it's rape

>>507998708 (OP)
this entire thread will be filled with overweight bald losers coping why they don’t lift or work out

>>507999474
They're always the first to quit on jobs like that too even if they're 260lbs of benchpress ham. I remember watching one guy force down a huge tub of ravioli at lunch, I warned him he'll be puking his guts out within an hour, but he said he had to for steady gains. I sure as fuck didn't hold his fabio hair for him at the portajohn.

>>507999851
I'm also 6'1. Technically, over 200 pounds is medically "obese" for a man our height, but that's different from "morbidly obese". 225 is about what I weigh too. There's a lot to be said for weight and reach in a fight, even if it isn't "gym muscles".

>>507998708 (OP)
Post me one fit pic of this guy lol

>>507998803
So you are 6"6, 300lbs? Nothing to brag about.

>>507998708 (OP)
i know this is a slide thread, but non-lifters will disagree

>>507999907
I'm not bald.

>>507998708 (OP)
That's just gay, if he was at least talking about martial arts it would have a point

>>507999769
ruh roh
>>507999618
quick! call your murika friend to defend you
>friend
>singular.

>>508000071
I forgot to mention I move alot of boxes and materials too. Loading and unloading up trailers/trucks. I've one punch knocked people out before.

>>507999769
>muh physics
You have a glass jaw.

>>508000336
Muscles trump martial arts unless u are at the top of your skillset. If u are skinny fats and u dont knock a lifter out before they get their hands on u they will fold u like a pretzel. Skinny fats dont have enough power to land a lunch like that no matter how good their skills are, its basic physics

>>507998708 (OP)
Dream grind > lifting.
Wayne Gretzky didn't lift a pound.

>>508000520
U have no neck muscles, talking about the jaw thinking thats what will knock u out...

>>508000520
I knocked a guy out with a rib punch once, just horsing around.

Reading all these replies reminded me of that communist meme about working out and how they wanna write poetry. /nu/pol kinda things I guess.

>>507998708 (OP)

>"For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come."- 1 Timothy 4:8

You will never be satisfied with yourself, your body, your achievements, your wealth, your status. There is only satisfaction in Christ Jesus, the Son of God. God is perfect, looking at Him is satisfying because in Him is no deficiency or need for betterment.

>>507999618
>>507999618
Not bad. Healthy bf% and good arm, delt, core development. I would say work on your pecs more, but I can see you're cursed with a chest gap like me.

>>508000678
Wayne is a hero of sports in general. Train the game, not external garble.
He did warmups though.

>>507998708 (OP)
>Stefan Molyneux, Massive Asshole
lawl
it's funny that he still thinks he's relevant, after cücking on every goddamn issue

I couldn’t do half the feats I’ve accomplished in my life if I had lifted

>>507998708 (OP)
I do BJJ and batter blokes bigger than me all the time.

>>507998708 (OP)

>>508000795
I dont have a chest gap, I am cursed with narrow shoulders though

>>508000476
So have I. Felt bad about it, but hey, he wanted the smoke, not me. Mr. Molyneux is strangely obsessed with what other men do with their time/bodies. It's vaguely homoerotic, really.

>>507999618
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA MANLET

>>508001167
5'10 I'd only a manlet on the internet. I can fold any lanket into a pretzle..

>>507999618
>manhandle
Alright, calm down there, shortstack. You aren't exactly threatening, so stop beating your chest like a nigger gorilla.

>>507998843
Yes is it. Being physically underdeveloped doesn't make you smart. It makes you an overcompensating coward who thinks and acts like a woman.

>>508001388
Wether I look threatening is irrelevant. Its simply a matter of fact that im a threat to ANYONE with no muscles, like u

>>507998708 (OP)
No, but I am quite fat.

>>508001133
Yeah, that's why I don't like bar fights. Too easy to manslaughter someone accidentally if they crack their noggin falling down or something.
I don't even know who half the fuckheads are lol I come here to bullshit when it's too hot outside. I'll do some work later. Maybe.

>>508001434
And being physically overdeveloped doesnt make you dumb, but that's irrelevant - this is a board about politics, not a board about some random shit that people remotely involved in politics say. Take this shit over to /fit/.

>>507998708 (OP)
That's not an argument.

>>508001093
I guess it's just the lighting and the chest hair then. Good lats, you look strong. Keep up the good work, anon.

this is the dumbest fucking cope imaginable

>be a huge fucking dumbass retard
>lift weights, get big
>assmad that nerds still won't take you seriously
>"if you don't have muscles your opinion doesn't matter. hurrrr."

i started lifting solely so that i could get bigger than these fucking retards and then tell them that they were retarded in a way that, by their own fucking standards, they had to accept.

sadly it didn't work because they're just that fucking dumb. but i guess i am the dumb one for even trying.

we should just kill these people.

>>507998708 (OP)
Being strong is genetic, if you don't have good frame and underlying musculature then you'll never be strong. People like this are just bragging about something they didn't actually do anything to earn.
>"BUT I LILFTED SO MUCH!"
Yeah, and another guy could lift three times as much and still have very little to show for it. It's all just genetic.

>>507998708 (OP)

fuck this faggot he sent white men against white women the jew bastard, he needs a fucking hiding he did this shit for years to bring on the race mixing bullshit, fuck him he should be publicly hung drawn and quartered

>>507998708 (OP)
There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy

>>508001553
I've known so many dudes like you. All "yip yip", like a dog. Chihuahua Syndrome at its finest. What do you think you're trying to prove, shitposting on an anonymous Persian Historical Society imageboard like this?

>>507998708 (OP)
How to deal with chronic injury???

>>507998708 (OP)
Based Stef calling out the weakoids

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting is cope for people who don't train in warfare

>>508001906
What kind of injury?

>>507998708 (OP)
if you're lifting but tossed out by society, it won't fix shit, just smoke weed and play vidya games, just don't become a fat disgusting slob so that when you do have to go back and engage society, you only have to workout like a couple weeks before your body is back on track. Otherwise no, lifting is a meme, it's good for a spell but like anything it loses it's impact rather quickly, especially if you aren't obese.

>>507998708 (OP)
no, if that is your opinion then you are a normie

>>508002037
To be fair, warfare does require great physical strength and endurance. The two are not unrelated. It's simply the absurdity of suggesting that "only real men lift" or whatever Molyneux is saying that's concerning. Kinda a No True Scotsman fallacy.

>>508001877
Dude u are the one yipping, im calmly warning you goyim..

Also, like I said, im half jewish and can manhandle any Persian
>>508001724
T-thanks

>>508002247
Warfare is about outsmarting the enemy.. nerds sit in cubicles whole chad dies in a ditch

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting weights is literally the most impractical and least productive way to build strength. Muscle size ≠ usable strength. This is the most retarded midwit thing I've read in while

>>508002374
Alright, whatever jew boy, warning noted. Now scamper off.

I lift 3-4 days a week. Would I call it "thought itself"? No, it's a pretty mindless task

>>508002436
A society that separates its warriors and its thinkers will have its fighting done by cowards and its thinking done by idiots.

You need both brawn AND brains. They aren't exclusive.

>>507998708 (OP)
one.
dollar.

>>508002247
Strength and endurance are two very different things. Strength gets overemphasized because of bodybuilding and vanity. It has its place, but people neglect endurance, and they especially neglect skills. Anyone who really gave a fuck about being weak would be doing wrestling and kickboxing.

>>508002612
That would be true is rockets and drones didn't exist. Why would u put a nerd on the battlefield??

>>508001640
Bar fights are fun, but never start one yourself. If a dude knocks over your beer and doesnt buy you a replacement though, it's fucking game on.

>>508002453
don't even need weights either, just situps and pushups, maybe some dumbells and squats, pullup bar even, those exercises result is useful muscles that also look good. Weights, stupid waste of time and money.

>>508002047
shouldah

Lift all you want, you can still be killed by a 10 year old girl with a pistol.

Embarrassing thread.

>>507998708 (OP)
>lifting
>not working a hard physical job daily
The vanity of gymfaggots reveal their homosexuality. Only women and gays care that much about their own aesthetics

the mind is masculine, the body is feminine

>>507998708 (OP)
I might be the only person on /pol/ with 1.5/3/4/5+ lifts who is also able to complete ironmans in under 11 hours, it's a good result, but hardly best of the best. I've noticed way too many fat fucks justifying their physical abilities by their strength numbers alone, in a few lifts, as lifting has become more popular and it's just dire. There is nothing virtuous about physical activity either, cringe shit.

There's some truth to that. Try doing Lalanne push ups. Jared Taylor makes it look a lot easier than it actually is.

>>508003025
nah, workout even with a physical job is a good combo, not weights, but the basics, situps, pushups before you head out, you get all your stretching in and are all warmed up for things that way, job goes much more smooth, just eat well or you'll look like bones with muscle hanging off though.

>>507998708 (OP)

>>508003371
kek you have never worked a real day of work in your entire life, memeflag

>>508003371
Found the homosexual. Then again, the meme flag also gave you away

>>508003447
>>508003454
nope, I out perform all colleagues this way, higher energy, better performance, better pay, more bitches want to fuck me, get dunked on fags.

>all shut-in incels do is conform

Uh

>>507998708 (OP)
I mean I have nothing against lifting, though most people could get away with body weight exercises.
But unless he just started, he's always been scrawny.
Does that mean he never knew who he really was or what he believed?

I literally do not have the time or energy to lift. This juden system denies me the opportunity

>>508002697
Oh, for sure. Both are important.

>>507999428
I’m 6’3” and I have a sizable penis but I never lift or exercise and I still completely mog most guys who do when it comes to women’s attention even though I have a Hank Hill body

>>508002770
Why would you put a retard there either? You seem to be caught up on this idea that you can either be strong or smart. You can be both. I promise, it's possible. The brain is a muscle too, that's what meatheads don't get. And the nerds in the office can't get every meathead with drones - what do you think happens when the lines break and the nerds in the office get taken to pound town by the Chads?

You need both. Brains AND brawn. One is not more important than the other.

>>507998708 (OP)
A real man doesn't need muscles to feel confident. Muscles are a shield you put in front of your fragile self-image.

>>508002842
A 10 year old girl is going to struggle even racking the slide. And besides, that's what ambush is for - you can have the best pistol in the world but a random junkie with a knife can be on you before you even clear holster.

>>507998708 (OP)
Kek, Molymeme is grifting as a gymbro now?

>>507999315
>>507999474
Fat angry boomers detected.
The Greeks, who went to war every season and grew up working iron and carving stone, laying imperial foundations heavier than anything you have ever lifted, they went to the gymnasium every day.
The truth is there is no “functional strength” there is only strength.
You may say “but my labor makes me strong” but you deprive yourself of how strong you could have been had you labored AND lifted.

You’re fat and lazy. Cope.

>>507998708 (OP)
>All you do is conform
>get in shape for Israel, goy

Said the guy that conformed when corona happened. Get the fuck out bro, i'm not dying for israel in your shitty wars, i will continue to be fat, disabled with soiled pants and ready to piss myself at the first knock on the door.

I deadlifted 583lbs in competition with 2 destroyed hips. I used a cane to walk to the platform and had bilateral total hip replacement a month later. I'm not just strong, I'm dumb as fuck and my pain tolerance is off the charts.

>>507998803
The onus is on you anon, until then, you are fake and possibly gay.

>>508002791
>>508001640
>>508001133
>>508000476
>boomers larping as toughs on the internet
LOL
Post your papers or fake, gay, larp.

>>508002697
Bodybuilding is actually insanely unpractical when you look at some of the bodybuilding junkies who get winded on 2 floors of stairs. IMO the best strength building is going to be gymnastics and rock climbing. You wanna test your body those will do it and chances are you'll feel totally buck broken the next day from it even if you're at the gym all the time

>>507998708 (OP)
sounds like he's on Test.

*flexes in Greek

>>508003844
Turns out, lifting has always been for fags. Gym bros get more male attention than they do female, hilariously enough. As long as you start lifting with that expectation, you'll be fine. Otherwise, lifting is sort of a waste of time if female attention is all you're looking for.

>>508002037
Warfare is cope for those who don’t go into robotics and engineering.

>>508004187
I'm 31, fuck you.
>>507999948
Yeah. Had to work with a lot of them and goddamn they always bitch out.
You called that guy out perfectly lol.

>>508003844
>>508004458
Larp.
ALL studies on men getting laid show the absolute biggest factor in having regular sex isn’t money, status, it’s not even facial looks, it’s bench press. It is straight up benchpress that is most highly correlated with are you getting sex from young women or not.

Go to the gym.

>>508004151
That why I would give my daughter a revolver.

>>508000071
"Obese" is bullshit. All that matters is having body fat percentage of under 24% and visceral fat of under 4% if you're over 40

>>508004187
They went to the gymnasium every day because they lifted nude. Lots of young, nubile male flesh to gaze upon for the older fags. They were notoriously gay, the Greeks. Or rather, they didn't think it was gay unless you were a power bottom - being a top was MORE masculine to the Greeks, which is fucking weird and gay but there ya have it.

>>508003643
>colleagues
KEK

>>507998708 (OP)
Its true. If you neglect your body you are a disgrace.

One. Fucking. Dollar.

>>508004653
Spiritual boomer is not literal boomer.
Physical labor is the job of slaves. I never built muscle while working as a cowboy and I was lifting heavy objects for 10 hours a day.
That job was shit. It was slavery and the people who enjoyed it were subhuman Angolems who had that Briton slave look.
People who take pride in labor are slaves.
I got rich on memecoins and I lift. Never been stronger or had more honor than I do now.
Boomers are crafted by ZOG to be golems.

You know in your heart it’s true.

>>508004377
no. I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet to feel good about myself.

>>507998708 (OP)
>Molyneux
When is this faggot gonna make Fable 4?

Some faggot retard posts deep thoughts by jack handey, usually as some roman statue vague invocation of antiquity account because that's what faggot retards think a smart person looks like, and then you have other faggot retards here who repost it incessantly and rewire their swiss cheese brains around it. Every day, day in and day out.

Why is Moly being pushed on pol all the sudden? Reminder, he's a jew.

>>508004882
Sorry that my dad started roofing and siding and then expanded into building houses, and I learned with him for free and now do it myself. So sorry about that manual labor. Wow. Geez. I'm sure you prefer the taco tuesday mexican labor group to assemble your slopshacks.

>>507999003
Because I want to sniff the bench when you're doing doing your sets.

>>507998708 (OP)
I bet momey that guy is a faggot, but unfortunately he is kinda right

>>507998708 (OP)
I dont go to the gym because I work for a living. I dont need to lift weights in a regulated environment like a pussy office worker

>>507998803
Same. Check out my most recent pr.

>>508004711
>homosexual fantasy
Typical Repressed boomer.
The Gauls also lifted and we know this from bone pitting on their skeletons. ALL Gallic males had skeletal wear similar to that of modern wrestlers and body builders both of whom lift weights non-stop.

Weight lifting is the domain of men.
Physical labor the domain of slaves.
Please go on and tell me how gay the Wild Teutons were as they wrestled Auroch and fought the legions of Rome to a standstill for two decades.

>>507998803
It’s not that impressive if you weigh 600.

>>507998708 (OP)
>Muh do u even lift bro
Fuck off nigger

>>508004882
You weren't a cowboy. You were so ranch hand nigger.

>>508005021
He posts these threads himself or gets people in his cult to post them. In 2015 it was always a Canadian flag posting them. He's probably running low on money and trying to make it big in the grifter circlea again.

>>507998708 (OP)
cool story, the IRS should audit him to see if he conforms to paying his taxes

>>508004699
Oh I agree. The term has been given a lot of negative connotation, even though it's technically correct. Bodyfat % is a far more important factor than weight.

>>507998708 (OP)
If you get over your insecurity faggotry whichever way it doesn't have to be lifting you will stay that way permanently for the most part. Alpha males as they get older still feel like alphas.

I'm almost a weak as I was before I started lifting weights but I'm more confident as a man than I was when I was at my peak.

>>508004884
Then post your papers? Tough guy.
You have nothing to lose by lying on the internet.
>>508005045
Cope. Your dad is a slave and so are you.
You’re not an artisan you’re a slave. Laboring for subsistence.
You could be an aristocratic individual if you lifted but you simply don’t have what it takes.

>>508005198
>DO YOU SUPPORT ME GETTING SHOT???

>>508005259
OK buddy

>>508005077
I dont go to the gym either, I have a workout room with all the shit I need.

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting isn't even 100 years old. Fighters don't lift, athletes don't lift. Lifting is for women who desire the LOOK of someone who has given themselves to their craft. When I hit gym bros it's like a different creature. Your muscles are super soft and squishy, you gas in under 20s of adrenaline. I could rape any gym bro and he can't stop me. FIX YOURSELF. You're a man not a woman.

>>507998998
This is the worst part, not only gym bros but normies think for whatever reason you are strong or threatening. Couldn't be further from truth. Same reason you can't beat gretsky at hockey or mj at basketball. Lifting will make you a worse fighter every single time.

>>508004694
You'd be better off teaching her to never walk around unescorted by a male guardian, or if she does, then her greatest odds of survival or avoiding harm is to run away screaming at the top of her lungs.

Any good self defense instructor is going to tell women - don't bother carrying a weapon. In an ambush, your weapon will quickly become your attacker's weapon, and now you're in an even worse position.

>>508004187
The Greeks were literally gay and were defeated by less gay people for a reason

>>507998708 (OP)
No. I also agree with what he is saying except the "and thought" part as that part makes no sense. Should have just ended with "it is integrity".

>>508004852
this will forever be funny to me.

>>508005259
Which papers? Be more specific? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you think I'm gonna post some documents you're a god damned retard. So, what the fuck are you asking for?

>>507998803
Oh yea? Well I can deadlift my dick into your mom!

>>508005179
I was a literal cowboy riding a horse and a truck to drive cattle.
In addition to raising barns and fixing various mechanical equipment.

It’s a retarded job and only moronic boomers who idolize Westerns think it’s le romantic. It’s stupid and boring filled with stupid and boring people. The novelty of working with animals wears off quickly and this only accelerated when your coworkers are also literal animals with sub 90IQs.

>>507998998
You remind me of my obese hoarder shitlib parents.

You have no excuses. Life is fucking hard and there's many circumstantial bs things that happen but you can at least be strong. Get strong or kill yourself, you may as well be an eunuch.

>>507998708 (OP)
this is what you sound like the first month of lifting. yeah it’s healthy but dont make it your lifestyle. i dont even want to show off abs anymore because it’s gay vain shit. i want to be able to rough around in the grass playing sports with my grand kids at like 70, and be able to take a fall when im like 80-90

>>508005088
You misunderstand me. I'm not saying that one shouldn't lift, nor am I saying one should lift. I'm not making an ought claim. Lifting has many positive health benefits. It's also somewhat homosexual. Do with that knowledge what you will.

>>508005544
I guess you didn't build any character then...

>>508005589
Lifting isn't strength. Calisthenics and learn how to fight. Gymfags are women.

>>508003990
Extremely retarded post by a joe rogan type guy who thinks he's smart. You're glorified trench meat. Nerdy people can pull triggers too.

dont make it your personality*
do make it lifestyle

>>507998708 (OP)
I like him but remember that time he used the wrong account and left a comment on his own video purporting to be a mother who agreed with his message, that was lame, and I cant get past it

>>508003990
You don't have brawn though, you just look like you do.

>>508005377
This, I'd rather be lean and wiry than a bloated roid monkey with edema. Plus, the Talmud says "the more flesh, the more worms"

>>508005687
Based Spartan

>>507999851
I work in the field extremely hard too. Been moving 44 yards of woodchips and spreading it around a hill, planting, digging, etc. then after I also run and hit the gym. I often push myself too fucking hard though and fuck my recovery, lay in bed all night with adrenaline unable to sleep, my progress could be better if I relaxed.

>>508005303
Cope.
>>508005419
>they were gay
Source: professor Goldberg told me
They weren’t gay. t. Classical Education
Still no answer on The Barbarians also lifting weights. I presume you concede then?
The Norse also lifted weights and it was specifically, according to the Sagas, reserved for nobility and free men.
Slaves, much like in Greece, were forbidden from lifting.
All our ancestors knew physical labor loses hard to the noble lifter.
>>508005484
Larping boomer. You never knocked anyone out.
Why lie? Sad old man who’s coping for his wrinkly balls not working anymore. Not even a man at all. Age has made you into a tranny. Something unmannish.

Maybe if you lifted more.

>>508003990
>the brain is a muscle
No it's not, it is made of grey matter (neural cell bodies) and white matter (myelinated axons) which is all nervous tissue not muscular tissue.

>>508005687
calisthenics is girl shit. all MMA guys light weights. all boxers hit the bench press. you’re a retard

>>507998708 (OP)
There's something so embarrassing about dudes who get zero physical results from lifting so they harp on and on about the philosophical benefits

>>508005900
Yeah, you gotta know when to stop before you get heat stroke...

>>508005807
Function over form. I don't care what I look like, I want the best possible performance I can ring out of this body. Speed and power, lifting a rock is very way beyond my abilities is something that can be done with literal cave man shit like a stick and another rock for a fulcrum.

>>508005694
Sure. Once again, you need to get over this concept that they're mutually exclusive. They aren't, nor should they be. I don't know why you seem to have this hard-on for the "smart guys" and keep shit-talking the meatheads. I know some gymbros that are the kindest, most awesome dudes you could ever know, and I know a lot of fucking nerds that are losers and will never amount to shit in life.

You sounding like you're just coping for being a weak fag and you're hiding behind your "smarts" as an excuse for why you're weak. That's not an excuse, bro.

>>508005913
Yaaaawn. Shut up faggot.

>>508005784
Intimidation is a mostly psychological thing anyway.

>>508005967
Lmao, you just make shit up buddy? Any boxer you know is fucking bum loser.

I get this hurt your little girl feelings but why would I care about that? I'm a man.

>>508005615
>strength is homosexual
If you are having intrusive homo thoughts when seeing Strong Males, it’s not the strong males that are homosexual.
It’s (You).
>>508005642
Retarded boomer. There’s no such thing as “character”. Boomers say this and it’s code for buck broken.
Boomers unironically were buck broken by manual labor that’s why they’re a perpetually ignorant slave caste content to labor for their masters.

If your personality has to be “built” you had no personality at all. No spirit and no soul. You never existed.

>>507998708 (OP)
Rucking up mountains and weighted push-ups are better for functional strength.

The fatty cope in this thread is truly something to behold.

>>508005913
dang your bait sucks

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting isn't that serious. It is quite literally the easiest and simplest athletic pursuit. If you've ever done a real competitive sport, you'll know just how easy lifting is.

>>508006141
It's genetic. I have no big man or nigger fear like you do.

>>508005377
They all lift actually and lifting is thousands of years old.
Neanderthals lifted. It’s older than the human race.
>>508005807
>you can either be weak or a roidtroon
Staggering analysis. I can see you have also chosen to be lean of the mind as well as the body.

>>508006213
Which cowboy palpated you that you are so butt hurt?

>>508006327
That's the problem most don't or haven't competed in anything. Lifting is the ultimate false confidence source and I'm sick of it getting people hurt or turning them gay.

>>508005913
I wonder how much ghengis khan benched. Must've been ridiculously high considering how great of a warrior he was

>>508006112
Take meds, boomer.
>>508006272
Cope

>>508005687
I have over a decade of Judo training under the Olympic Canadian Gold Medalist Wayne Erdman.

I do calisthenics, isometrics, field work, iron man's (triathlon), rock climbing, yoga, a bit of everything except sportsball shit which I did also in the past but hate so don't do anymore.

There is nothing wrong with the gym. I know a stone mason who after he's doing working with stones all day he goes to the gym after. He does lighter workouts after working with stones and harder workouts on days when he's not doing masonry. I know farmers who also work hard and then lift on top of that.

The gym is therapeutic and can help you avoid injuries and work on weaknesses and imbalances.

I also know a guy who does the fake tanning thing, has tattoos, smokes, and does body building. His health is total shit and he has no stamina. In fact that's the guy who runs the local crunch at night time. He's very chill dude I like talking with him but he's not healthy.

Saying that the gym is for women or gays is ridiculous. Just don't be a body builder. Don't make lifting your whole thing. Do all the other stuff like swim/run/bike/climb/hard-physical-labor.

>>507998708 (OP)
I'm 5'8. Lifting won't stop me getting mogged by lanklets. It's just coping. I still try though.

>>508005916
Christ above. It's a saying, you autistic fuck, not literal. It means you need to exercise your mind as well as your body.

>>507998708 (OP)
Some kind of fighting sport > dumb bulls.
Roidheads are empty displays, a man half the size trained in a fighting art could take him down.

>>508006197
i get you may be all hopped up on andrenaline from watching fight vids but you are dumb as shit if you think the pros dont lift weight and manage their diet to get into different weight classes. it’s very obvious to tell you never been in a real scrap btw

>>508006005
I wanted to get it done before the three days of rain that was coming was expected to happen. Luckily it was overcaste/cloudy the first 2 hours I was working but the next three hours it got pretty sunny and then after that I did a 12 km walk and I got a little bit of burning on my wrist that got a bit too exposed to the sun despite my clothing.

>>508006448
About tree fiddy

>>508006446
I love lifting btw, dont get it twisted. But unlike real sports, you get unlimited rest times, no ones pushing you to perform when you're gassed, and you dont get humbled by other people. It shouldn't get you hurt though. I've been lifting consistently the past 5 years and only once got a minor overuse injury that has since cleared up completely.

>>508006423
>boomer projecting his molestation fantasy onto others
Hate to see it.
>>508006448
Probably a lot. He made Bokh training mandatory.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_wrestling

>>508006349
I don't either, so I don't know why you're suggesting that. Does someone not agreeing with your view on lifting make you that insecure that you gotta fling out random baseless ad homs as a result?

>>508006651
Lifting is training for real sports you retard.

>>508006491
This is very sensible. As I'd expect given your resume. You must know I'm not talking to people like you who obviously know what they are doing. The Mai issue here is them being women like and gay. False confidence and literally 100% focus on how they look. I don't like this for our fellow men.
It certainly makes things much easier for us but, it just makes me sad brother.

>>507998708 (OP)
Do normalfags really feel that they have to conform unless they can physically overpower another person? What a pitiable existence.

>>508006780
I dont see how that disagrees with anything I said, retard.

>>508006491
That stone mason is literally refining his art lifting weights.

People who do weights apropos nothing are just weird though.

Agility games you train with the game, for example. Having dumbbell muscles adds nothing to that. Probably a liability too.

The muscle for its own sake fucks are just there to make betas crazy over protecting their girl.

>>508006608
Nigger I'm a pro fighter, read the rest.

>>508006657
Ok hayseed.

>>507998708 (OP)
I pick things up and put them down.

>>507998708 (OP)
I can't really afford the food and equipment/gym to build strength properly atm so still a weak poorfag for now. I'm decent at bodyweight stuff and cardio though which is better than nothing I suppose.

>>508006780
Define "real sports". Is soccer a real sport? Because soccer players do some lifting, but most of it can be replaced by body weight exercises, don't need a gym for that. Soccer players mostly just do a lot of running. Like, a lot. So much running...
>source: PTSD from playing soccer since 6 years old.

>>508006733
You do, you're American it's in your blood to worship niggers

i can never take anyone with sloped shoulders seriously

just troon out or something

Had people stalking me for years treating me as some violently threatening strongman... I'm a wimp who got physically abused in childhood. It was dumbassery from people who hated me too much to tolerate a reality check. They treated the fact that I fought back when literally assaulted as proof that I was violent, ignoring the fact that the only time I ever initiated a fight in my life was against a sister who had previously ambushed and beaten me on many occasions. Yeah, you omniscient dickheads, if you attack someone enough they might hit back... but even then, I never physically injured someone, not even her, and I was a vocal pacifist the entire time. Instead of blaring in deniable channels and a fucking whispering campaign about how improbable it was that I was a pacifist, why didn't the corrupt assholes who hated me just TALK to me? Why couldn't they admit that they'd made a mistake? Why did they have to spend years insisting on their own infallibility? I spent those years socially isolated by a rumor mill in a milieu that made it implicit that if I wasn't sexually serving people, I was being a bad disagreeable person who deserved ostracism. The threat of social punishment if I ever disappointed anyone was a constant reality of my life. I definitely wasn't allowed to get angry.

>>507998708 (OP)
I'm not gay so I'm not interested

>>508006833
The solution to the thing about looks is to make them have a greater awareness of what corresponds with what. Like once you know what a fake smile is you see it everywhere and are disgusted by it whenever it appears, or when you see onions face and know what it means (submission) again you are disgusted, well there's all these subtle things in people's appearances that tell you something about them and the best look is only attainable with actual genuine health. If there is something wrong internally, bad vo2 max, bad heart, liver, whatever it manifests in some way in the appearance of the body. People really need to put their internal organs and bones as a priority over muscles, muscles develop faster but the other stuff takes longer. Lots of isometric work (hold for at least 15 seconds, after 15 seconds the bones benefit) will help people a lot. Stuff like rock climbing and pranayama and running and mobility training is excellent for cultivating perfect health and perfect looks. The best looking men and women are usually Dutch farm boys and farm girls who have simple high quality fresh and clean diets and never ever put on cosmetics or anything weird. They just end up having natural beauty as a consequence of their lifestyle, getting rest, getting the right exercise, etc.

>>507998708 (OP)
No, and I don't lift, either.
Martial arts and hard work have an intrinsic value. Gym is just a crutch for those that can do neither.

>>508006866
Normalfags live in a world of insecurity and self-esteem issues. To them, the world is a big, scary place. They conform to the strongest member of the herd because that offers safety. If they become the strongest in the herd, they have earned the right to set the direction the herd goes.

Autistic, antisocial losers like us here don't find the world scary. It's mostly just dumb, fake, and definitely homosexual. We lift if we want, we don't lift if we don't want, and the opinions of the herd like Molymeme hold no weight. Because it's emotional manipulation ultimately, and we're autistic. We see through it.

>>507998708 (OP)
Yes, I'm weak and I don't know why. I lifted for years, people are surprised by how weak am because I look pretty swole. But I lifted for years and never got past like 115 lbs bench for 8 reps lol, meanwhile all the guys on /fit/ start at 225 lbs on their first day. I can do 12 pull ups which I think is good, all my other stats are really bad.

>>508007157
Isn't it such a relief to free yourself from those social chains? Not allowed to get angry? According to whom, the mice scurrying around you?

>>508006907
I have lots of dumbbells and find them useful.

Do you know the best thing for my pull ups is just shoveling truckloads of dirt?

Every year there's like a month where I move a lot of dirt and don't even do any pull ups and after that month is over suddenly I can do way higher quality reps, more of them, and for longer, and with less effort. Digging with a shovel translates so well into pull up strength.

One good way to use the dumbbells is to have some not very heavy ones and do the running up and down a hill or if in the gym you use the stair stepper machine. Gets you drenched in sweat, gets heart rate up, gets the whole body worked out very fast.

They are also really good in mobility training and if you get an injury you can rehabilitate yourself with them.

I also don't really do anything with lifting weights on a bar unless with a friend who is doing it. Dumbbells work the stabilizer muscles that bars / smith-machine don't.

I do a lot of different types of workouts too. Like extremely high volume low weight ones I do a lot, I do isometrics, I don't just do the standard 7-12 reps and put the weight down I change up my exercises constantly and dynamically. I make things work depending on what I'm doing that day and the next, changing up variables like intensity so I can still get my work done.

Btw those /fit/ meme guys who complain about no face gains and who have insane muscles but a soft face that's because they don't work on their VO2 max. When I had bronchitis for awhile my face looked like shit. When I got my lungs into peak condition again my jaw and eyes changed. Went from incel mode to chad mode. Breathing properly and having great lungs does wonders for the face.

For most men lifting is just making up for a lack of confidence due to what society deems lacking such as height, looks or being a social retard. The main goal is to find love. It's conforming 101.
Training and practising fighting is much more useful, the amount of gym junkies who come to the gym I train at and think they are going to beat the shit out of everyone in sparring is funny as they're usually out of breath just warming up and are too muscle bound to throw effective punches even on pads. They usually only come for one or two sessions then are never seen again.
If youre talking pure strength the strongest bloke I ever saw was a 65 year old man who drove one of the last brick trucks in Sydney and would hand load and unload thousands of bricks every day.

>>508007524
>all the guys on /fit/ start at 225 their first day
Seems this is also your first day on the internet, friend. I'd say welcome, but you ended up in the gutter of the net, here on /pol/. As is the traditional greeting of our people: fuck off and neck yourself, newfag.

>>508007735
Got that old man strength. Anyone who's ever been in the ring with an old dude like that knows what that means. Those fuckers are MEAN and they can hit like a truck. You don't fuck with dudes like that if you're smart.

>>508006349
This. He's projecting his own inferiority complex to everyone else. If a big man still thinks his size has any more relevance in the modern era he could fafo or throw a tantrum online like a woman railing about the true natural order of things.

The mercantile class is superior to the warrior aristocracy class and it is more noble. The mind has conquered the body and is at the helm of civilization. Those who are the most powerful in modern society are people who are most aware of this.

Society is so advanced, the traits necessary to contribute to its advanced state so superior and valuable that they will be protected with priority over the masses rabble you could replace with any other meat head. This guy >>508006072 acts like there's a shortage of meat heads to plug gaps with .

>>508006072
You're the one making a false dichotomy by implying that smart people that don't care to lift weights and are physically weak are also morally weak.

Faced with confrontation all that's need absolute moral resolve. You don't need a 3plt bench press to pull a trigger. And it's a sad fact you're so afraid of death you've decided to pack on some muscled to give you some sense of security as if they could stop bullets.

>>507998708 (OP)
its just for retards to mentally masturbate to themselves while doing nothing that real strong men have done. "oh bro i know how to lift heavy things and that makes me a strong man" yeah you know who else lifted heavy things, woke up early and did hard work? the fucking greek helots and you think they are known as being strong men who created good times? no, they are known as the biggest cucks who were the first greeks to be enslaved, kinda like you cucks but keep sharing photos of your silly bodies while myostatin inhibitors would produce the same effect

>>507998708 (OP)
>Physical strength is the only kind of power
Retard

>>508007157
Bro I've dealt with some similar issues and one day I actually figured out the key to understanding these people.

They use words as weapons. Not to reason with you, not to understand you nor understand their own self--but rather to belittle, beguile, and berate.

When you understand they are just saying shit to hurt and bamboozle you and treat conversation as like a war then it becomes apparent how pathetic these people are. The best way to understand the difference is to meet people who genuinely communicate and to have the contrasting experience between that and the people who just use words to mess with you. At some point you'll pick up on the pattern and know who is worth conversing with and whose just an immature fuckwit talking shit about you.

Some places are absolutely infested with those types and other places they are rare so it can seem like everyone is that way but all you might have to do is get into a different social circle and it's like the whole reality changes for you.

>>508007735
its all retarded cope for a silly unserious slave class of people

>>508007733
Sounds like the dumbbells are redundant then.

Having an honest frame is a lot more real IMO.

>>507998708 (OP)
>grifting isn't just life - it is integrity and thought itself.

>>507998803
deadlifting your own bodyweight isn't very impressive, anon...

>>508007157
Something else I must tell you is this. There are people who will never ever admit they hate you, who will always manipulate the conversation, and they may be your parents, your coworker, or someone who says they are your friend. If you learn mind-reading and tell them their own thoughts (which they conceal and which are at odds with what they say) they will be horrified, uncomfortable, etc. and likely ghost you. If they are a better person they will instead be curious, intrigued, surprised, want to know how you did it, admit what they thought but respect you, etc.

Anyways you can tell those people apart by the lack of balance in their personality. Sometimes they are church types who say shit like "hate the sin not the sinner" and are conditioned that "being mean is wrong, being hateful is wrong, so I can never be mean or hateful" so they still are hateful and mean but do mental gymnastics about it. Sometimes they are secular types too but the same mentality of you can never offend, you can never be abrasive, etc. so they end up doing all these things... hmmm there is one mentalist on youtube that explains it who is from South Africa but right now I forget the terms... I think one of the terms is "malicious positivity" or something like that. People will not say they hate you but if you know how to read them it'll be apparent they hate you and just can't admit to themselves or anyone that they do so.

It's nice to be around Dutch people btw because the Dutch don't do this shit. It's more of a problem with people from the UK and I have a theory as to why. The people in the UK got dominated by knights long ago and had to be submissive so they developed a culture of "politeness". Dutch people can be direct and honest and just say what they actually think and feel because they have a different history.

>>508007966
Oh, you misunderstand. I'm not supporting the "meatheads" any more than I'm denying the "nerds". Moral failure abounds on both sides.

I'm simply denying your lionization of the nerds. It isn't necessarily a moral failure to be weak, but it's not a moral virtue either.

>>508007255
These false dichotomies are stupid. Just don't make the gym your life make it a supplement to your martial art or sport or labor. If you do decide to make the gym your life make it all mobility training and work on bones/organs/lungs/flexibility and not just strength alone.

>>507998708 (OP)
i am naturally fairly big and strong but i am 90% core and legs from playing hockey growing up then working a fairly intense manual labour job through my 20s and early 30s. i dont watch my diet so i am a weird case of strongfat with good cardio

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting is for fags. Join a fighting gym and run. Big strong guys can’t fight and have no endurance and are useless in combat.
>t. Bodybuilder turned kickboxer

>>508007524
Do internal work. Go shaolin monk mode. Don't stop lifting but put it on the backburner a bit to make time for other kinds of training. You will make easy muscle gains when your heart/organs/lungs/bones/etc. are strong.

>>508009054
hand to hand combat is also useless you sill mental masturbater. ultimately if youre not studying how to create a decentralized society and military doctrine youre just a cuck of the highest order

>>507998708 (OP)
Yes but i also have an illegal handgun so i feel strong

>>507999618
Relax lol. No need to get physical.

>>508007743
Point taken, but still. Back when I did kempo I'd spar with guys that I had 10 lbs on, like just some yellow belt and just feel the power difference and think to myself, "god damn I'm glad this isn't a real fight cuz this guy would kill me."

>>507999184
lol

>>507998803
Yeah bc you lift 500 lbs every day just getting out of bed, fatass
>>508005140
This

>>508008491
They are not. They are complimentary.

Do you know about... Dr. Mike talks about this... how the muscles adapt and become more efficient if you do the same exercises always? So you get less results in terms of hypertrophy? Constantly confusing the muscles changing things up results in better long-term gains. People like to see quick progress though so often will do the same routine and not change things up. You don't see quick progress doing what I do because I work out so many different things and make sure to progress every aspect of my body but the end result is really good. I believe something along the lines of what the shaolin monks are doing is the absolute best overall physical conditioning and much of what I do is similar to them.

>>507998803
gymbros compensate for a passive lifestyle. Men dont need to lift.

>>508009426
is it a mental thing? are you like 5'5" and 140 lbs?

>>507998708 (OP)
I know this is comparatively minor, but I cannot fucking stand it when these effete """intellectuals""" espouse lifestyles they clearly do not pursue as virtuous. Molyneux looks like he would get folded by a moderately large 12 year old that does bicep curls twice a week. So if lifting is so important, why am I listening to this cocksucker? Hit the gym old man.

>>507998708 (OP)
Why the fuck do I as a man need to give a fuck what another man thinks?

>>508009054
My biggest health issue right now is my very broken nose. I need surgery for it.

If you are fighting you may get your nose broken a lot and end up with cauliflower ears too.

An ideal martial art would be something that allows you to effectively deal with opponents, cultivate yourself internally, and avoid injury all at once.

Try not to get your face smashed or get any other injuries. Most people including me only learn about it all afterwards but if you can learn how to avoid injury beforehand that is better.

>>508009321
Based. If you could hook me up with one too that would be great. I also need DMT vape pen.

>>507998708 (OP)
Based. I'm glad he's back.

>>507998708 (OP)
Molyneux is a gigafaggot.

>>507998803
>I can go years without lifting and still deadlift 500 pounds.
no you can't. you wouldn't even have the grip strength to get 500 a single mm off the ground if you went years without lifting. and even with straps, you wouldn't be able to. for an actual multi-year break from strength training i could maybe see someone still being able to pull 3 plates, with straps. absolutely not 500 though.

>>508009656
He definitely does his workouts he even does them during his interviews.

He is old and spends most of his time on philosophy so of course you can oust him.

If you don't want to listen to him because he doesn't have credentials then go study what Olympic athletes have to say.

Molyneux is pretentious but he's echoing Socrates:

No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training…what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.

And yet what has to be borne by anyone who takes care to keep his body in good condition is far lighter and far pleasanter than those things subjected to the out of shape person.

The results of physical fitness are the direct opposites of those that follow from unfitness. The fit are healthy and strong, and many as a consequence save themselves decorously on the battle-field and escape all dangers of war; many help friends and do good to their country and for this they earn gratitude, glory and honor that leads to a better life and provide their children a better means of achieving a livelihood

For in everything that we do the body is useful; and in all uses of the body it is of great importance to be in as high a state of physical fitness as possible

Why even in the process of thinking and not using our body, it is a matter of common knowledge that grave mistakes may often be traced to bad health. And because the body is in a bad condition loss of memory, depression and discontent often attack the mind so violently as to drive out whatever knowledge it contains.

>>507998708 (OP)
Yeah

I was doing really well with lifting and losing weight until my knee randomly started hurting.

Year of doctor appointments later and it's still just "Patellar Tendonitis" that can't be fixed, even with resting, stretching, etc.

>>508009656
Besides, it is a disgrace to grow old through sheer carelessness before seeing what manner of man you may become by developing your bodily strength and beauty to their highest limit. But you cannot see that, if you are careless; for it will not come of its own accord.

Surely a person of sense would submit to anything, like exercise, so as to obtain a well functioning mind and a pleasant, happy life.

I tell you, because military training is not publicly recognized by the state, you must not make that an excuse for being a whit less careful in attending to it yourself. For you may rest assured that there is no kind of struggle, apart from war, and no undertaking in which you will be worse off by keeping your body in better fettle.

But a sound and healthy body is a strong protection to a man, and at least there is no danger then of such a calamity happening to him through physical weakness: on the contrary, it is likely that his sound condition will serve to produce effects the opposite of those that arise from bad condition.

>>508010598
He could have myostatin deficiency, or he's getting abducted on the regular by Nordic Aliens and forced to train hard and just can't remember any of it, or he's a giant and he should be able to lift way more and he's relatively very weak for his size and bodyweight, or maybe he works concrete or something all day and his strength is maintained that way.

>>507998708 (OP)
He says that and will curl 25lbs for 15 reps.

Is that weak? Idk I curl 85s because I'm smart enough to fail at low reps (under 5). Most men in the gym are hilariously weak and use stupid training methods. That one set shit is legit and do weight that's high enough to FAIL, it should compromise your form for the last couple reps.

Millions of strong men out there, with assets and resources. None of them will organize and sword and fire Israel.

>>508010715
This is why tendons/heart/lungs/organs first and muscles last should be standard for everyone training.

I fixed a similar issue with shrooms and DMT btw. Somehow the psychedelics allowed me to command my cells to do what was necessary to fix itself on the inside. Fixed a right hip and right shoulder issue that gave me issues for almost a decade. Try doing exercises from these books for like a year and then add in psychedelics to make your meditation way stronger and complete the process: https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1906-04psychichealing.pdf
https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1912mindpower.pdf

Is what worked for me and you can benefit in many ways from this knowledge and its application.

>>508009550
It's all about how threatening the body looks to paired men.

Pure sports bodies give off less danger cues because there's some larger purpose tied to it. Pure muscle for its own sake just screams "player". Or even "gay".

>>508010598
You absolutely can. Myofibrils never go away, they just lose conditioning. It wouldn't be wise to jump into heavy weight like that, but under extreme adrenaline you're gonna rip that shit off the ground if you already have decent muscle fiber mass. Muscle fiber mass (myofibrils) is different from just muscle mass because bodybuilding training just bloats the sacroplasms with glycogen and water. Quite literally fluff or "empty muscle." A bodybuilder will lose what they've "gained" when they stop training, because the body immediately eats glycogen like it's supposed to. It's carbs. That's where the myth "the body eats muscle as fast as it eats fat" comes from. Your body doesn't not eat myofibril fibers unless you're in an extreme state of starvation or rhabomyolosis.

>>507998708 (OP)
I can carry heavy shit and chop firewood. I don't need or want to pay someone to perform useless work with a bunch of sweaty guys. If you want physical activity either play sports or do yardwork, I truly can't think of a bigger time waster than gym

>>508009550
It's all about how threatening the body looks to paired men.

Pure sports bodies give off less danger cues because there's some larger purpose tied to it. Pure muscle for its own sake just screams "player". Or even "gay".

If you find sincere happiness in your whatever that's important metaphysically too. Question is if you're making it harder for "us" betas for no reason, particularly if you don't even like doing it.

>>508011202
I respond well to high volume and high time under tension.

I did the really low reps thing for some years when I was younger and never made progress, mind you sleep issues and mental issues also impeded progress.

House of Hypertrophy has a good video on youtube about low volume vs high volume studies.

The conclusion is that most of the people in the studies are in the middle but a few are the extreme outliers who only respond well to high volume or only respond well to low volume.

You might be someone who does well with low volume.

With diet and exercise you have to be mindful of the reality of biological differences between individuals and groups. We're not all the same, contrary to popular egalitarian delusions.

>Multiple skin infections that refuse to go away no matter how much I take care of them so I'm exhausted all the time
>Can't afford laundry more than maybe twice a month
>Exercise both irritates my infections and radically increases how often I need to wash my disgusting buttery sweat off my clothes
>Haven't been able to lift in over a year
>Growing depression has created a drinking problem
>Getting fatter and fatter no matter how much I avoid eating or go out to trudge around town trying to prevent it
>Suddenly getting pains in my gut that reach around to my back
>Catscans show my guts are fine and there is no visible issue
>I'm just in pain all the time now
>Medical industry doesn't really give a fuck that I have the energy and strength of an 80 year old man at age 32

I genuinely want to die. I feel so fucking trapped and hopeless. I just want to be able to work out without intense pain or wallowing in infectious waste again.

I really don't know how to ever bounce back from this. I feel dead already.

>>507998708 (OP)
For just 1 dollar

>>507998708 (OP)
Why would anyone want advice from him. He's like Jordan Peterson but worse: this weird intense emotionally disturbed faggot who always has this look in his baggy eyes that he's about to cry, trying to give other people advice. When they are on the edge of sanity and know happiness and joy so little they believe it doesn't exist, people like him believe innocent simple happiness is a pathetic myth because they are incapable of experiencing it.
Lifting is a good idea though.

>>507998708 (OP)
I lift this thing every day. Probably gonna buy a 100 pound one soon cause this one doesn't really give me a pump anymore, weights are so expensive now though. Especially heavier ones

>>508011454
you sound extremely retarded

>>508004187
More exercise does not equal more strength. What matters is stimulating muscle growth and this is achieved by exhausting the muscle and then you just rest for two to four days. Lift as heavy as you possibly can for 8-10 reps 1 set for each muscle group and you're done. You can easily lower your workout time to 2 hours per week and get amazing results.

>>508011526
You know steroids weaken the bones and body builders are already not strengthening their bones with isometrics a lot of the time so making them weaker is really not good.

Some Germans I know (who had some of their toes fused together because genetic condition) also don't swim and they have these really heavyset skeletons (maybe neanderthal genetics?) and they are very hard for anyone to hurt and can shrug off anything.

Also Muay Thai has become a fad lately (it's really for Asians, not for white people) but it's all about having a leg bone that is so strong it can break a baseball bat in half.

Strong skeleton is so much better in an accident or a fight than a focus that prioritizes muscle alone. Muscle is certainly helpful and needed but never at the expense of bones. Bones should get priority. If you want to be a soldier, fight people, etc. iron body training is great. I in particular did some exercises to strengthen my skull and I never wear a helmet. Been in biking accident, been hit over the head with a metal bar while being assaulted by a Scottish hobo, etc. and every time I don't have any signs of damage when checked out in the hospital. That metal bar really rang my skull like a bell btw. I'd probably be dead if not for my skull being so thick lol.

>>507998803
That means you probably lift random shit all the time and don't consider it lifting because it's not a barbell

>>507999618
Weird somewhere between DYEL and getting there, keep it up you rancid tapeworm

>>508001739
He's right though, if you can't even take care of your basic physical health you're a retard
>t. retard

>>508011788
I tried everything for 15+ years and the only thing that's breaking my late stage natty plateaus is low volume and protein spamming. I drink a half gallon of milk a day and eat a lot of meat. Limit to 3 meals to stay lean, there's no "stay anabolic" by staying fed bullshit, like I said above the body does not eat muscle. So long as you get decent protein in it will build it and keep it. The best lazy low effort routine I've come up with is:

1 day one set routine failing around 5 reps
Rest day
1 day one set routine failing at 5 reps
Rest day
1 day training in field, endurance and bodyweight exercises (circuit training or function training type shit)
2 rest days

The field day is because one set doesn't do much for endurance, it's better to train it separately and get full performance out of both types of training. The reason one set works so well is because your fatigue meter is low when you go for a max. Noobs would probably blow their connective tissue if they just jumped into a max though, but I specifically train connective tissue for higher strength capability. No I'm not curling with bad form Steven I'm curling to work my elbows and you're fucking weak and retarded if you don't.

>>508011605
Fast gains fast loss. Slow gains slow loss. I have an Austrian friend who tells me I should optimize my workouts to get maximum results in the least amount of time. My mentality is other way around; spend all my waking hours working as long as I possibly can fuck having a social life and all that. There is something to working out a minimum of 5 hours to as much as about 14 hours every 24 hour period that has done somethings for me... a lot of it is strengthening of the will power I don't believe my training has been optimal... I need more sleep and I actually do need to socialize but my life has been troubled so maybe in another life I will get to do everything right and balanced just not this one, didn't have the best parents and circumstances in this life... but I make the best out of the situation I am born into.

>>507999618
You need to get wider little bro

>>508012064
Take a ton of nootropics if you can afford them, take up swimming, stop drinking alcohol, and if you're really fat just fast for a month no food just water, kombucha (optional), and electrolytes (mandatory). Fasting clears up inflammation and skin conditions and also removes the fats on your internal organs that can't be removed by exercise (can only be removed by fasting).

Can you breath properly? Do you have a deviated septum?

Also how is your mental health? Make your thinking purposeful or don't think at all. Use thoughts to uplift yourself instead of tear yourself down, to be constructive or imaginative, to have fun. Don't go in circles over issues outside of your control, be stoic, and when you think something through write down what must be done or just store it in your memory and remember it later. Good company also will help you but bad company is better than no company if that's all you can get for the time being, just don't let people rob you or assault you.

>>508012149
Pfft Jordan Peterson is way worse than Stefan Molyneux but I do understand the comparison they have those things you mentioned in common.

>>508012064
Have you had a hospital stay in the past couple years? I swear the fuckers gave me so many x-rays I got radiation poisoning.

>>508012794
That's a fast way to get yourself killed, lol. Stop working out so much. You're losing muscle mass. Think about when you get injured by let's say a small cut, how long does it take to heal up? That's how long you need to rest for a normal 40 minute heavy duty workout. 5 hours is some endurance type shit that won't help with muscle growth and 14 hours is asking for fatal injury, gonna end up in the hospital.

>>508012234
How so? Would I sound smart to you if I neglected myself and did not heal my problems? Would I be smart if I took the shrink drugs and become flabby and destroy my internal organs and let my mind rot? Do I need to waste my time watching television shows instead of listening to audiobooks and working out to be respected by you? Is being smart remaining weak and pathetic like you? Such a "smart" man you. Go smoke a cigarette and drink a beer and watch niggers play with a ball with the other dying boomers while the pfizer jab clots you up. UK is trash btw your people have serious problems. Cursed island.

>>507998708 (OP)
Imagine dying for isra5

>>507998843
>pseudointellectual
In what field is your masters?

Non-lifters criticizing lifters is plain cope. Everyone that lifts or has lifted seriously knows all its benefits

>>507998708 (OP)
>I will never beat gravity and it makes me sad.

>>508012238
This is true for muscles now post the formulas for bones/tendons, and for the lungs and heart, and also for the nervous system. Each requires a different style of training. Bones/tendons means a lot of isometrics that take hours, stuff like horse stance. Lungs/heart requires a lot of endurance training, hours and hours of running and swimming and biking, usually in heartrate zone 2. Nerves require all out sprints and max intensity efforts that take everything you got to give out of you in a mere moment and lots of chi gong style training (Robert Bruce Energy Work is a good book) which is basically shifting around the awareness in the body and naturally producing higher levels of CBD and all types of exercises focused on the "mind-body" connection.

>>508012642
Very smart and I'm glad this is working out for you and that you got a mix of both styles of training.

>>507998708 (OP)
Strong enough to handle a $1 donation

>>508001434
>It makes you an overcompensating coward who thinks and acts like a woman.
Yet women are statistically outperforming men. They have more close relationships, better mental health, more offspring, more sex, they outperform men in every educational institution and now they're even starting to earn more than men. Women now account for 50.7% of the college-educated labor force, having surpassed men as of 2023. According to a McKinsey & Company study, companies with female leaders demonstrate higher success rates in organization and financial performance. Your physical shape doesn't mean anything in the modern world.

>>508013783
I have problems with schizo and insomnia.

Had chronic pain for the longest time and constant adrenaline keeping me up.

I finally relaxed more only two months ago when I did DMT and solved three of my issues (thermoregulation issue and two chronic pain issues).

Now I actually take time to rest and am getting better results from more rest.

For the longest time though I could not rest. I'd lay down and just be in pain, wreathing around, and going loopy from sleep deprivation.

I'd end up doing things like wandering around 5 days and nights outside on the streets.

It all was not good but couldn't be helped.

I'm glad I can finally rest now. Like today I got 3 hours of sleep and yesterday I got 6 minutes of sleep so at least that's something.

I still push myself too hard fairly often... but not constantly like before.

The more rest I get the stronger I get.

I am an example of person who over-exercises... similar to David Goggin's.

It's not good. For me exercise is not the mystery or the challenge, it is relaxation and sleep that is the mystery and challenge in this life, if I can master those two I'm set.

>>508014931
Everything you said was true up to this:
> Your physical shape doesn't mean anything in the modern world.

BS. It's a virtue. It's good and important, benefits everything in life. Don't create false dichotomies. All the things you listed are important, so is physical condition. Anyone who is very sick and body not in a good condition would trade all the wealth, relationships, etc. in the world for a healthy body.

>>507998708 (OP)
entirely wrong

>>507998708 (OP)
Lifting weights in a gym is a surrogate activity, there's nothing masculine about it. Maybe in the 90's the weight rooms were full of guys but now every gym is 60% girls. I'm not anti lifting weights, it's good for you and I've been doing it for 20 years, but I'm sick of dyel retards like this pretending it makes them tough or something.

>>507998708 (OP)
I've always been strong. Should probably try to push the limit before it's too late tho.

>>508005084
immaculate form, anon.

>>508015114
Try antiparasitics.

Also, that girl that broke your heart is making you mad.

Go vegan. Plant. Pull aunt.

Crystal clear mind, and fenbendazole the worm down (it's your worm-man!)

Quantum entangled. See her through a pinhole in your mind.

Get comfy, do work. Rush.

Maybe wear a red hat. Blocks spirit rees.

>>508015778
The Ancient greeks who were lifting weights as well would you say they were doing a "surrogate" activity?

I think weights is a complimentary activity for soldiering, laboring, etc.

>>507998708 (OP)
Did this nigger forget we have guns?

>>508016432
Pineapple is an anti-parasitic and I eat a lot of that too. I also consume beneficial mushrooms, cinnamon, and a ton of other things that either help the good guys in my body or kill the bad. Vegan sucks, I did fruitarian before mostly because of poverty (fruits are the cheapest most easily available thing here) and was not well at all, I find eating Schnitzel and Saurkraut and salads and fruits and sourdough bread off of the shelf is good, anything fresh and high quality and from the farm is good, while the stuff from dumpsters, discounted because old and stale, and goyslop is all bad.

I've been experimenting with different clothing colors. For the longest time I only wore black, then I started wearing all blue, recently I've been wearing all green. My hat though is black I don't have other color hats.

I'm not sure if your post is AI, word salad, or what btw. Like what do you mean by "Blocks spirit rees" and "Pull aunt" these seems like random words to me and I don't know what you are saying.

I don't have social life I am a hermit in the forest. Most interaction I ever get with females is talking a little with the life guards at the pool.

>>508017076
Vo2 max is the greatest predictor of longevity. Vo2 max is a result of lots of cardio exercise. Exercise in general including strength training prolongs life. It also improves quality of life. So you not only live longer but you live better. You want to have a steady hand and shoot well and get your ruck through a forest? You need to exercise. You having a gun is great but other people have guns too and then it's the other variables that come into play to decide who survives.

>>507998708 (OP)
Every time I do push-ups, I lift the entire weight of the Earth itself.
Yes, I lift.

>>508017511
What I mean is more related to his point, all the working out in the world isn't going to make me conform to you no matter how many times stronger than me you may be.

>>508004187
>gymnasium
wow youre gay lmao

Yes. I'm one of the hardest motherfuckers on this board.

>>507998880
Moly is an OG member of our coven.

>if you don't lift heavy objects you don't know who you are
well, i know i'm not a faggot with body dysmorphia who likes hanging around with other sweaty female-brained queers

>>507998708 (OP)
your daily routines should be enough to maintain muscle mass. whole lifting thing is a scam since all you're really doing it for appearance. no different than women doing bbl

>>507998708 (OP)
If you arent strong enough to work construction between jobs you're not going to make it.

>>508005084
at last, a warrior worthy of facing spencer-sama

>>507999863
t. Boomer retard