Thread 508020768

>>508020768 (OP)
Swiss arent germs so no we dont reall want them
Id reather have west poland

>>508020768 (OP)
Give the western half of Anatolia to Greece and we're good

>>508020768 (OP)
what did montenegro do to deserve this?

>>508020768 (OP)
No... not at all

>Muh big russia
>My split up UK
>muh united Gran Serbia
>muh just through macedonia and bulgaria together
>muh no more hohols
>muh anschlussistan

Why does every Amerimutt "I FIXED EUROPE!!!!" map look exactly the same?

We're taking Iceland.

>>508020909
>Id reather have west poland
Only a good deal if it comes without the Poles

>>508020909
Why do you say that? They speak German and look just like any other German person. A lot of them are Catholic, just like Austrians and Bavarians. What really is the difference, besides their unique system of direct democracy?

Why delete my black mountain niggers, the fuck they ever do to you?

>>508020768 (OP)
If i am the king!

>>508021116
They're Northern Italians that speak German.

>>508021116
Swiss Germans are extremely autistic and dull even by German standards.

>>508020768 (OP)
Nigga copied my map :georgedroyd_sad:

>>508021295
>They're Northern Italians
Aren't Northern Italians majority Celtic and Germanic? They're descended from the Lombards

>>508021395
Yeah... you're reddit. This is every alt-history reddit map ever made.

>>508020768 (OP)
>ITS THE NOOOOOOKSSSS
>IRAN IS ABOUT TO GET THE NOOOOOOOOKSSSSSS

>NOOOOOOOOKSSSSSS
>NOOOOOOOOKSSSSSS
>NOOOOOOOOKSSSSSS

Israel is pathetic

Siberia is mostly populated by Slavs. It should be counted as Europe.

>>508021395
I've never seen this map before lol, but there's several differences. Britain is split up, Alsace-Lorraine and Luxembourg are given to Germany, South Tyrol goes to Germany, Herzegovina goes to Croatia, Romania gets Budjak and Northern Bukovina, Galicia goes to Poland, and Carpatho-Ruthenia goes to Slovakia to name a few differences. I also didn't give Scania to Denmark. I do like what you did with Greece, I might incorporate that in my next version. I just found it too unrealistic initially since the Anatolian part would have three times as many Turks as there are Greeks in Greece. It also makes Europe go into Asia

>>508021642
Not really. The only unrealistic part here is the Greek expansion. What else is unrealistic?
> Hungary owns Southern Slovakia (because it is still majority Hungarian today)
> Russia annexes all Ukrainian, Belarussian and Russian-speaking lands
> Everything else literally a copy of OP's map

>>508021116
>They speak German
No they speak French Italian and some of them speak german but that doesn automatically make them german
Swiss live in the alps and are isolatesd from most of europe and devolped their own culture thats not german and not Italian/French
They are their own people

>>508021838
I know, it was a joke+wanted an excuse to post my own take

>>508020768 (OP)
What is it with third worlders and their obsession to redraw Europe

gives us wilno and abolish norwa and we're good

>>508021934
>t is still majority Hungarian today
It's not. It's majority Carpatho-Rusyn and Ukrainian. Hungarians are only an 11% minority

>>508021008
We're kissing ass to become part of the EU. I guess that's what people want.

>>508020768 (OP)
ugly we will need some of belarus too

>>508022147
> Southern Slovakia
> Posts Zacarpathia instead
Anon...

>>508021107
yes the g*rman likes it with mohammed and rajeesh

>>508020768 (OP)
No, germany needs way more lebensraum

>>508021302
>Swiss Germans are extremely autistic and dull even by German standards
This, I am extremely autistic and dull.

why would any country take so many ukrainians? it's suicide

>>508022314
Sorry, I misread that. Borders are more than just ethnic lines, you also need to consider geography and economic factors

>>508022084
Are you Germans historically into that?

>>508021302
looks like some fucking siberian is jealous of our wealth. cope and seethe.

>>508020768 (OP)
Koenigsberg is rightful Teutonic clay and should be it's own Germanic state. Otherwise, I don't care.

>>508021008
I realize now that you meant the border, I just took a quick glance. I don't care one way or another, but I have a Serbian and an EU passport and I would like to chill here longer than a couple of months at a time. Either Serbia and Montenegro need to reunite, or Montenegro needs to join the EU, both work for me. I don't care about retarded Balkan border redrawing games (anymore).

>>508020768 (OP)
this is probably the best map i have seen
100% support

>>508022437
Economic factors are temporary. When a chunk of land gets disconnected from its usual economic routes, it restructures to accommodate to the new economic reality. Refusing to give ethnic lands to its ethnic homeland based on these temporary factors is wholly unreasonable

>>508022456
It's an anglo thing. Why do you think Germany wasn't a country until 1871?

>>508021045
kike detected

>>508020768 (OP)
Not under kike rule

>>508021934
And villages in northern Hungary are full of Slovaks because houses there are cheap kek

>>508022703
The poor bastard that had to redraw the HRE map every 2 weeks when another Count of Shittelstein-on-Rhine died and his inheritance went to 7 different entities because he refused to marry his second cousin

>>508021045
I fixed Europe.
Fag

>>508022927
You are a Slovakian. No matter what kind of argument I would give you, you'd never concede on giving land to Hungarians, so arguing with you is pointless

>>508020768 (OP)
Baltics + Poland then you have a reasonable map

>>508021045
> Why does every attempt at fixing the map just puts everyone with their respective ethnicites...
Amerimutt brain does not comprehend this

>>508022965
Yeah, supporting a thousand different families and their claim to 5000 acres was a great strategy until Napoleon came along

>>508023006
Lebensraum*

>>508021116
most swiss germans from the regions that are actually relevant like zurich & basel are protestants unlike austrians or germans and we dont want to join those countries with their crazy high inflation (they can thank the jews) and their cuck laws like getting up to 20 years of jail time just for making the nazi salute or saying heil hitler in public. let them rot in misery with the euro crashing forever against our swiss franc. it was their choice to create and join the european jewish union, now let them deal with it. black friday sale every single day.

>>508023006
>entire Europe becomes Deutschland
>Merkel comes out of retirement and becomes chancellor again
>imports entirety of Africa to Neues Deutschland
Not sure I'm liking this plan

>>508023006
/thread

>>508022965
>Shittelstein-on-Rhine
Also, kek'd

>>508020768 (OP)
I assume in this scenario russia has been depopulated?

>>508023330
What if hypothetically Germany wasn't so cucked, and was under a good regime? Do you think things would change?

>>508023330
Sure, that's a sensible position to take right now. I agree with you. But if politics were to change, would you have any reason to oppose German unification?

>>508023095
And you are either a Hungarian on a vacation, in which case arguing with you is pointless for the exact same reason or you're a Spaniard who knows fuck all about how things are here.

I have seen Atlantic Council maps showing Europe extending to Azerbaijan but not Moscow.

>>508023640
Northern, Atlantic, Latin (Greco-Roman), Eastern

>>508020768 (OP)
>REdrawing Europe
Has Europe been like that at some point in history?

>>508023569
I am actually neither lmao. I have so little skin in the Southern Slovakia game you wouldn't believe.

>>508020768 (OP)
No, Germshits still exist

Georgia is not European and We're all tired of pretenting it is

>>508023640
>>508023798
on further thought iceland might have to be part of northern europe

>>508023349
Surely the Kaiser or the Habsburgs have some surviving distant relatives with more legitimacy. If that doesn't work out, just drown them in a river or shoot them in an ally. That's the real selling point of monarchism.

>>508023925
We can push all the nons into israel or something

>>508020768 (OP)
It’s halfway decent but not perfect. Also
>All of Tunisia, Libya, Anatolia, and Northern Algeria not included as white settler colonies
>Georgia, Armenia, Artsakh not included
The map is unrealistic in terms of ever happening, why not aspire to retake our lands?

>>508023925
Pretty sure nobody in this thread claimed otherwise

>>508024123
the next in line habsburg is on twitter

It's in the usa best interest to have a West Europe and Eastern Europe to play off each other like coke and Pepsi, or apple and microsoft, or nividia and and

We really like duopolies, if east/west is too samey we can do north/south, or southwest/northeast for balance purposes

>>508024297
That ugly little gremlin from game of thrones? Funny that even the distant cousins look inbred as fuck

>>508024366
Wouldn't this have the potential to backfire though if the competition pushes Europeans to advance far beyond America? It's like induced darwinism on a national scale

>>508024508
He was on got? What?

Based as fuck. Hail the 4th Rome

>>508024366
Not anymore...not really ever because you got cucked by jews but anyway not now because youre fading into irrelevance and balkanization and need europe to balance the ME china russia (and future brownmerica) axis

>>508023923
who would finance your jobs and government if they didn't?

>>508023914
Good for you. Second option still applies I believe

>>508020768 (OP)
Ah, the shitskin's favorite past time.
Redrawing maps for people they will never be.
Muh based russia, muh khohols hahahaha

>>508023505
if politics were to change and germany would be absolutely freed from jewish control, then wihtout a doubt. hitler may have despised us (see operation tannenbaum) but he would have simply annexed the germanic part, because at the end of the day we are germanic and 'racially suitable'. also most of the poorer cantons (aka 'states' in the US) in switzerland are in the french speaking part (besides geneva) and ticino is the 2nd poorest of them all (the italian one) and we have to pay for their debts so yeah.

>>508025071
>Haha you got subverted by jews
Nigga you live in Canada, we are both fucked

Yes but if its a commie hellhole like (((EU))) then no

>>508024291

claiming dagestan and chechnya is europe but georgia is not

>>508025090
>Atlantic Council
> G-good for you, I don't care! (I still respond and argue with you but trust me I don't care at all)

>>508025577
They are painted this way because they are part of the Russian state, not necessarily Europe
Also, still nobody claimed Georgia was European

>>508023855
The re- prefix does not imply restoration to an exactly identical previous state. Only if used in junction with words such as back or towards. If you are redirecting an action, it simply means to change. It doesn’t imply going back to a previous state unless you said something like “redirect back” or “redirecting towards the previous (insert previous object)”

>>508025577
They’re all Europe

>>508025730
Stop, we're Caucasian not European, deal with it already brown guy

>>508020768 (OP)
Russia belongs in Asia. Fuck off.

>>508025730
that negro is baiting you hard Mooranon

>>508025927
>NOOOOOOOO we’re not white I swear guys we’re heckin BIPOC!
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

>>508020768 (OP)
>Dietsland
I approve of this.

>>508021982
Americans are so muttified that they cannot comprehend what you just wrote.

>>508026495
Yeah this kinda gave it away >>508025927
Too obvious even for my autism

>>508021982
Then Bavarians/Austrians aren’t German, which also means all Alemannic people aren’t German, because they’re the same as the Swiss. According to you, essentially speaking, only Saxon-derived dialect speakers and dialects with heavy Saxon influences are German.

>>508020997
split greece between all of its neighbors then toss every byzlarper greekjeet into the sea and we're good

>>508028564
Why do you hate Greece? Are you Albanian or something?

>>508025731
Thanks for info, anon - much appreciated, as I see religious /pols/ saying “reconvert” without ‘back to’, and they use variable meanings of it.

>>508028877
No problem

>>508020768 (OP)
Hmmm no, If we want it, we must solve lot problems inside Russia.
Ethnically dream? Yes.
2025? No.

Russia is not ruled by Russians, I don't know about other European countries.
if the governments of all European countries will be NORMAL, decent people with honor and nobility - oh yes, I will be immensely happy about rapprochement. I love you all, white people.

>>508020768 (OP)
Better, but give Czechia to Germany and let Poland have the Russianized bit of Prussia.

Romania should give back north dobruja fucking stealing bastards.
Still love ya tho

>>508026735
"Dietsland" = Duitsland = Deutschland = Dutchland ("Germany")

>>508024685
Nah, talking about this thing. Supposedly it has some lineage to Habsburgs

>>508029579
Why do you want Ukraine and Belarus so badly? I mean I understand historical irredentism, but you have to think in the long game. Ukraine and Belarus are both Rus-origin people, but that doesn’t mean they’re Russian. Rus is synonymous with East Slavic. They all have their origins in Rus but they all diverged. Ukraine is as Russian and Russia is Ukrainian. They are cousins, not the same people with an identity crisis. Unless they were allowed to keep their identity and language it would be immoral and cause problems. Why look to the West for lands which would turn your fellow whites against you when they have taken lands from you in the East? Kazakhstan used to be majority white, they have ethnically cleansed the North, which was overwhelmingly Russian, of its historical population. Wouldn’t it make more sense to take Northern Kazkahstan? Also, if China were ever in a state of total war or extreme instability, it would be wise to take large parts of Chinese Manchuria. The Chinese seek, at minimum, all lands on their side of the Amur river, which means Vladivostok and all the coast would be lost. At maximum, they want all of Manchuria back, and to divide Russia by creating a Siberian puppet state including all lands East of the Urals

>>508020768 (OP)
No need to redraw borders. I think we need to continue expanding Europe incrementally. We should bring Montengro into the EU and the UK back into the EU. Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland, too. We should take back all of Thrace. Redrawing borders between European brothers can be done later.

Europe should have good relations with BOTH Russia and the US. US - EU - RU brotherhood

>>508028426
based. you're missing eastern thrace through

>>508031419
Lol i think thats a joke about how ugly she is senpai

>>508031538
Honestly, If I'm the US president, I'd have a hard time supporting Ukraine at all. Like I don't Ukraine deserves to even exist. It's not a real country. Neither is Belarus. Most of Ukraine and Belarus should be Russia. Kalinigrad should be recreated as Prussia and join the EU. Resettle Kaliningrad (East Prussia) with Mennonites from the Americas. Give them free land. In 1991, EU should've taken Kalinigrad and made it its own country with resettled Germans from Central Asia and the Americas

>>508031831
Fuck, it's so ugly that I missed the joke and assumed it must be true. Especially with that jaw

>>508032189
Totally understandable

>>508031958
Why? I like Ukraine. They do have their own unique identity and language, they don’t want to be a part of Russia, and Russia trying to annex them would only further divide Europe

>>508033080
All of you burgers talking about Eastern European geo-politics like some kind of informed genius war generals is the most cringe thing ever.

>>508033080
> They don't want to
Not how geopolitics works. The US didn't respect commie Cuba, neither will Russia with Ukraine. National security and interests always dictate international politics, not morality or consent

>>508033346
>Not how geopolitics works
Exactly. The fact that popular opinion doesn't fucking matter is Geopolitics 101

>>508033441
Yeah, also "would divide Europe" is funny. As if European jewigarchs were united in anything but wanting Europe filled with niggers

>>508023330
Utterly based.

>>508031538
You ask a very good question. The answer is simple - an anti-Russian government at the head of Russia. I do not think situationally, I am an artist, I am interested in history and think about time. You can find many arguments that Ukraine had to be attacked, and even that there was no other choice. But from a historical perspective - this is all about the destruction of the Russian people.

>>508033624
It's so sad because I actually am a pan-Europeanist. The structure that we have with the EU is a good thing. Schengen is great, unified currency is great, unified Border Control is great. The issue is current EU leadership is fucking terrible and using the union for the wrong things. Europe should be united (not necessarily as one country per se'). We need a pro-European EU.

>>508033177
All of you burgers talking about Eastern European geo-politics like some kind of informed genius war generals is the most cringe thing ever.
I’ve been interested in geopolitics since I was a little kid. It’s my main interest in all of life, dumbass. I’m not giving some unwarranted opinion on something I know nothing about. What does a Bulgarian know?
>>508033346
>Not how geopolitics works. The US didn't respect commie Cuba, neither will Russia with Ukraine. National security and interests always dictate international politics, not morality or consent.

Wrong. Communist Cuba was blatantly anti-American and actively sought to destabilize the United States while using the Soviet Union to intimidate them into nonintervention. Also, we absolutely respected Cuba’s right to be an independent state. That’s the difference between the Cuba issue and Ukraine. Russia wants to annex a large chunk of Southeastern Ukraine while installing a puppet government in the remnant state and encouraging Russification, while eroding media independence and societal freedoms to suppress popular dissent.

>>508033441
>>508033441
>Exactly. The fact that popular opinion doesn't fucking matter is Geopolitics 101

The fact that popular opinion DOES matter is Geopolitics 101, fucking dumbass. Iraq, Vietnam, Argentina, and Afghanistan called, they want their retarded nigger back (you). It absolutely matters. If your own populace is staunchly opposed to a war it can seriously undermine the war effort, especially if that extends to the military itself. If the populace of the country being invaded opposes you, you can expect much greater resolve in the war effort, less opposition to draft, increase in voluntary conscription, and partisan guerrilla action deep behind the front, as well as in areas newly moved into. When America invaded Cuba and the DR to liberate them from the Spanish, they were practically worshipped as gods. 90% of Ukrainians hate the Russian government, and only roughly half of the people in the “Pro-Russian” areas such as Donbass and Crimea like them (40-65% depending on specific region).

All of you are retarded fucking animals, please go back to playing Paradox games

>>508034475
Kazakh niggers should be cattle prodded onto reservations like what we did here with our Indians in the US. Russia built all of Kazakhstan and the natural resources under the land is rightfully Russian. The land is also rightfully Russian

Picrel is what I call the Blue Line. It's a very fair division between EU and Russia. West of the Blue Line is EU. Right of the Blue Line is Russia. Once this is established, no more wars needed and Russia can focus on Central Asia and Siberia, which is where their attention should actually be focused

>>508034744
I would disagree with the Pan-Europeanist cause. Firstly, aren't you an American? Or are you the second coming of Francis Parker Yockey?
Secondly, what you propose would lead to the ellimination of linguistic and cultural identities, as well as ethnicities, which would be terrible and would create a weak sense of identity across Europe, kind of like the pre-civil war US had.
If you are an American I'd understand this oversight, as almost no European with a sense of sanity or awareness of our cultures would ever suggest that

>>508028426
total luxemburg death

>>508035104
Europe should be a Confederation, not a unitary republic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riUfmvNzI-A

>>508020768 (OP)

Fixed Europe, looks perfect now.

>>508034853
> Wrong. Communist Cuba was blatantly anti-American and actively sought to destabilize the United States while using the Soviet Union to intimidate them into nonintervention
Yeah yeah, none of that violated US sovereignty. Sovereign Cuba wanted missiles from sovereign USSR, the US (rightfully) didn't give a shit and threatened WW3 if missiles weren't withdrawn.
> Russia wants to annex a large chunk of Southeastern Ukraine
You mean the majority Russian-speaking one? Oh no the horror. The US never ever annexed land from anyone by force.
Oh and btw, Ukraine joining the West is a threat to Russia. US weapons on Russia's most important border in Europe
> while eroding media independence and societal freedoms
Oh sorry sir, you are a cuckservative "muh free speech" guy. You actually care about muh democracy while it destroys everything you ever loved about society, and will defend it to your last breath. I got it sir, I'm so sorry sir, carry on

>>508035327
Doesn't matter, you missed the point: free movement of people, free migration within the EU (Schengen) leads to this erosion

>>508035104
>American
Yes.
I'm also European by default. Or genetically, I should say. I also have EU citizenship in Germany and Italy and have been to Europe more times than I can count.

>propose would lead to the ellimination of linguistic and cultural identities, as well as ethnicities, which would be terrible and would create a weak sense of identity across Europe

Even with all the EU integration we've seen already, this hasn't occurred to the degree that some might expect. English is an international language, and that is reflected in much of Europe. That doesn't mean that even in countries like Denmark, the Netherlands or Sweden that people have stopped speaking their own native languages and have lost their own culture (excluding culture loss due to urbanization and modernization), even though all these countries have like 90%+ fluency in English.
I personally think the lingua franca of Europe should be Latin and should be taught alongside native languages across Europe as the second language. I do not support complete distinct culture loss, but I also understand there will be some unification in culture as we see more European integration and that's not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.

>>508034475
>You ask a very good question. The answer is simple - an anti-Russian government at the head of Russia. I do not think situationally, I am an artist, I am interested in history and think about time. You can find many arguments that Ukraine had to be attacked, and even that there was no other choice. But from a historical perspective - this is all about the destruction of the Russian people.

(1/2)
I appreciate your viewpoint, but do you really fear the destruction of the Russian people? Is this a common belief?

The way I see it, Putin is damning Russia. You can see his policies of bringing about permanent demographic shift within the Republic, and even in the newly annexed territories, he has filled Mariupol with Central Asian inbreds. I don’t think anything he has done will work for Russia’s survival or prosperity. China has made plans on you which they hope to enact sometime within the next few decades. The West will not invade Russia. I think it is hard to see now, but if Russia would have simply negotiated for an extension on the port lease in Sevastopol, or even demanded permanent ownership, everything would have been fine, with no war. NATO knows that even if a ground war could be won with Russia, they still have nuclear weapons, the ultimate deterrence. Even if Russia had still gone through with full annexation of Crimea, I think this would only be a temporary roadblock in relations between Russia and the rest of white civilization.

>>508034475
>>508035901

(2/2)
I think what really concerned Western leadership was the full-scale invasion of 2022. We do not want to destroy Russia, there is only a small number of deluded liberals that nobody likes who proudly promote Russophobia. Most pro-Ukraine right-wingers such as myself like Russia, and show special appreciation to the Russian Volunteer Corps and other organizations. They are true Russian nationalists unlike Putin, because they do not seek multiracial ethnic federalism and the mixing of Slavs with Muslim Tatars from the Volga and East of the Ural, but rather a White Russia.

>>508035957
Ukrainians are a subgroup of Russians.
You can agree with this while also disagreeing with Putin's exporting of non-Europeans into Mariupol and other Novorossiyan cities

>>508036093
*importing is probably more correct

>>508021409
No, they are closest to Iberians

>>508036093
>Putin's exporting of non-Europeans into Mariupol and other Novorossiyan cities
I thought he was sending the ethnic minorities to the frontline?

>>508035518
> You mean the majority Russian-speaking one? Oh no the horror. The US never ever annexed land from anyone by force.
Oh and btw, Ukraine joining the West is a threat to Russia. US weapons on Russia's most important border in Europe
It’s not majority Russian speaking, nigger. A majority of people can either speak or understand Russian. That doesn’t make them Russian, or pro-Russian annexation, fucking buffoon. Did Nigerians turn into 6’4”, blonde haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxons when the British Empire taught the Igbo and Yoruba to speak English? The land was inhabited by a Ukrainian majority population, as well as the Don-Kuban region in modern-day southeast Russia. The Russian Empire started a settlement program there and hence it came to be called Novorossiya amongst expansionists.
> Oh sorry sir, you are a cuckservative "muh free speech" guy. You actually care about muh democracy while it destroys everything you ever loved about society, and will defend it to your last breath. I got it sir, I'm so sorry sir, carry on
You are like an animal. I did not say I am in favor of a system which has taken away what I like, you fucking idiot. Our system was subverted by people who deceived us into believing that the legal was illegal, and that the illegal was legal. That the moral was immoral, and that the immoral was moral. Our version of a constitutional republic with representative selective democracy worked just fucking fine and would have continued to do so if it was not for subversion, theft, and lies. Our founding fathers were not retarded. Our constitution, legal system, and national identity has been purposely reinterpreted by malicious actors who do not even consider themselves American. That being said, press freedom and fundamental rights, such as those laid out in the first 10 amendments of the constitution are fundamentally good things. I’m not talking about fag marriage and transgenders grooming children, you fucking idiot.

>>508035666
>American
>Yes
Being is not living. I spent 99% of my life here. Nobody wants their culture disappearing in the sea of homogenization.
> Even with all the EU integration we've seen already, this hasn't occurred to the degree that some might expect
I will respond to the entire paragraph here - this hasn't fully happened yet sure, but the process is well underway.
Firstly, about 35% of Iceland is currently speaking Polish. Entire communities here in Spain are full of Russians, others of Norwegians, and I mean entire large areas feel like Russia rather than Spain
With time this process, even if it does not accelerate, will move towards its logical conclusion. Elimination of barriers = eventual death of ethnicities. No thanks.
I would rather be a Russian vassal state than that.

This isn't meant as a gotcha, but your disconnect from the reality of Europe as an American is on full display with your views.
It is akin to American Blacks coming to Africa in the 20th century and advocating for Pan-Africanism - importing a European ideology to a continent foreign (and hostile) to it entirely. It ignored tribal conflicts, grievances, basic geography, and the continent's reality.

Same here, just less ridiculous than Pan-Africanism

>>508020768 (OP)
Fuck no. Not giving up on Bosnia. Not letting USSR 2 exist.

>>508036093
They’re a subgroup of Rus, not Russians. Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Rusyns are all descendants of Rus. They aren’t Russian. Rus is synonymous with East Slavic. Just because they were controlled by the Russian Empire for some time does not make them a subgroup of Russians. They are a subgroup of Rus, as are Russians themselves. A Ukrainian is as much a Russian as a Russian is a Ukrainian. It’s important to make this distinction. Nobody would say that Czechs, Silesians, Sorbs, and Slovaks are all subgroups of Poles. They are subgroups of West Slavic peoples.

>>508036639
I can see where you're coming from. But I don't this would be as big of a noticeable issue if the native Spanish population was also growing, which it is not.

>>508020768 (OP)
I prefer this.

>>508037011
What the fuck

>>508020768 (OP)
Looks the same to me

>>508036777
semantics, semantics. Russia (or whatever you want to call it) should include most of Ukraine and Belarus as per the blue line I drew earlier.

i don't care. why draw new borders if you make the ones you have meaningless by shipping in niggers?

>>508036543
> It’s not majority Russian speaking, nigger
Yes it is, nigger. Pic related
> They aren't pro-Russian annexation
Neither were the Mexicans of all the territory you annexed, retard. Literally do not care about what they want or think
> Did Nigerians turn into 6’4”, blonde haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxons when the British Empire taught the Igbo and Yoruba to speak English?
Wrong comparison faggot. Ukrainians of the East are already majority Russian speaking, looking the exact same as Russians, having nearly identical genetic makeup, with a culture that is a slightly different version of the Russian one. Try again, retard
> Our system was subverted by people who deceived us into believing that the legal was illegal
The system is working as intended and always had, you delusional motherfucker. It was always ruled by the interests of the wealthy, it's just so happens that now they are mostly Jews. Your country has been in nothing but cultural decline since the day you gained independence. World capital of degeneracy and a pioneer of new ways to have gay interracial sex. Literally kill yourself. Democracy was rigged from the start and you retards fell for it first.

>>508037011
> Me when Ordenstaat Burgund

>>508020768 (OP)

Be generous and give us access to the Aegean sea. It was supposed to be ours anyway, so why not?

>>508020768 (OP)
Meds are not true Euros.

>>508037461
That map is a fucking joke. Literal meme. It’s a bunch of fucking blobs, it looks like a children’s watercolor painting. Here’s a real map NIGGER. Imm not even engaging with the rest it’s so stupid.

>>508038051
> Donetsk majority Russian speaking
> Lugansk majority Russian speaking
> Zaporozhia 50%/50%
> Kharkov oblast 50%/50%
> Crimea majority Russian speaking
> Odessa oblast another 50/50
> And that is according to the Ukrainian government data
Wow, you really showed me there. Damn, in shambles. It's almost as if it proves my point, you illiterate nigger

>>508036897
Whether it is growing or not, the European migrant populations would too. Population growth also fuels immigration into other countries. In any case, Europe should have had an economic union and a military alliance, with only European states - that is sufficient

>>508034853
A Bulgarian knows what is to be under the influence or ''friends'' with Russia you piece of shit retarded illiterate burger. Have you ever wondered why all countries related with the USSR/Russia now are shitholes? From Cuba to Africa,South America, Asia and Europe. Do you know why you fucker? Because you Burgers are ultra out of touch, most of you haven't even being out of your state. The thing is that USA is like a live show 24/7 of retardation, streamed all over the world in all kinds of media, so we know how shit you are. On the other hand, you guys have no idea what is happening out of your bubble.

>>508038513
> Have you ever wondered why all countries related with the USSR/Russia now are shitholes?
Tbh that's entirely because of communism. If Russia was a regular Empire with market economics instead of a commie shithole, you'd have been fine

>>508038355
You’re illiterate you fucking monkey, I’ve already stated that the ability to speak Russian, and the use of Russian in day-to-day conversation does not make you an ethnic Russian, same as someone who only speaks and understands Russian is not necessarily Russian. Most of these people aren’t ethnic Russians, and not even all of the actual Russian-speaking ethnic Russians are pro-Russia. You just showed me a bullshit blob map which implies that the entire Southern and Eastern halves of Ukraine are 100% RUSSKYI MIR ROSSKISKAYA ARMIJA UKRAIJINA IS FAKE COUNTRY PIG PEDERAS BLYAT GOIDA SLAVA ROSSIIYY SLAVA PUTINA you dumb nigger

>>508020768 (OP)
russia should get the baltic states and maybe finland too (including poland would so pretentious) and poland, czechia and slovakia (united or not idc), hungary, romania, bulgaria and that big serbia under russian sphere of influence, maybe greece and/or albania too

>>508038746
> I’ve already stated that the ability to speak Russian, and the use of Russian in day-to-day conversation does not make you an ethnic Russian
And I have countered that argument, you then ignored it and focused exclusively on the map I used. Didn't read the rest, kys muttoid

>>508020768 (OP)
only if we get Konigsberg otherwise it's a headache with chimping gorilla warfare ukies for nothing

>>508038513
>We are all dysfunctional shitholes
>Also I know everything about your country because my news channel
You’re a retarded slave. Your news channels are just as sensationalist as our, but because they act like they’re formal and measured you take it as objective fact. Your news only covers rhe most outrageous of things happening in America, and even then they will grossly misrepresent what the real situation is, what people are saying. I know because I was forced to watch your news in school. Half the news in Germany is about America, and that’s not because America is so CRAZY KOOKY WOW CHAOS RETARDED MUTT BURGER, it’s because we have been so successful in accruing power and influence that we are simply that relevant, so you see more about our country than you do a neighboring one. Your nations suffer from a bar minimum of twice the corruption ours does in any given area and your ultranationalist organizations believe in theories more deluded and illogical than my local schizophrenic about issues that are ultimately irrelevant, there is an entire meme subculture about the ridiculousness of your region and you’re attempting to ridicule me. You can’t give a balanced analysis of my country yet you accuse me of being illiterate and lacking geopolitical knowledge when this has been my interest since I was in elementary school before I even knew what to call it .

>>508038861
I can speak English and Russian, learned them at school, no Russian roots. Does that make me Russian or sympathizer of Russia? No. In Bulgaria we have mandatory English from kindergaden or grade 1-2, depends on the school/kindergarden. Us knowing English as much as Bulgarian by the age of 15 does it mean we are English or half-Bulgarian? The thing is that in those zones all school were subjected into learning Russian the same way we are to learning English, this does not mean they are Russian.

>>508038861
You didn’t counter the argument, you just whined about me being wrong without an explanation and continued with your mischaracterization of the situation and insults. You’re retarded. You are from Spain. That’s all I need to say

>>508035901
>>508035957
1/2

Sorry, anon, I'm afraid I can't answer some of your questions about "real politics".
I see that Russians are deeply depressed. Maybe you know about the stereotype "Russians don't smile because it's their national trait"? This is a correct observation, but it's a false conclusion. Russians don't smile because we are deeply depressed. This deception within society (business, everyday), the deception that everything is fine has existed since the Soviet Union. If we watched movies from the USSR together (and I had learned English by that time), I would point out those rare movies where the director ridiculed Soviet reality.
This deep self-deception has been going on for more than a hundred years, deception is layered on deception and now we come up with the term "postmodern" to somehow describe reality.

>>508035901
>>508035957
I worked in a bakery and saw people coming to me, all the customers were unhappy, constrained and extinguished, in the end I couldn't take it anymore and quit. If I approach passers-by on the streets of my city (St. Petersburg) with a social survey and ask: "Do you understand why it was necessary to attack Ukraine?" I will not get an answer. When I write messages like these and use these arguments on the Russian analogue of 4chan (2ch) I get an answer, I can predict it: "You are a whiner" and they are right, but they are right in relation to the world they built. That is, our government is building and encouraging a Russia in which the target is not a person, but a state. Further, on our TV they propagate hatred of America, Britain, Europe as a whole for 24 hours and give arguments, but wow I google a picture of the artist Aivazovsky "aid with food" (I attached the picture) and I understand that the USA helped us a long time ago. Wow! That is, they lie to us that the USA has wanted to destroy us throughout its entire history. And there are a lot of such lies. you know, a person can be deceived - but the truth gives a smile, and a lie gives despondency.
sorry if I am not writing on the topic of real politics, but I really want to speak out. thanks for your interest.

>>508037011
this guy has my vote come elections

>>508039388
> I can speak English and Russian, learned them at school, no Russian roots. Does that make me Russian or sympathizer of Russia?
Read the reply where I actually address this. As I said, I addressed this point. I also never claimed just knowing how to speak Russian makes you a Russian. It's just that the Amerimutt can't read because his school got defunded to fund gay sex in Guatemala
>>508039393
> Still refuses to read my counter argument
> You are from Spain
No I'm not lmfao. YOU however, are from Amerimuttia

>>508039292
Idc, I have my own house, sports car, bachelors and masters in non-meme field, I am 31, have my own niche business and give no fucks about anything. I shitpost on 4chan, play PC games,go to local gym and spa, when in the mood go clubbing, I am financially safe, I have nothing in crypto, I live a happy life. hope you have it too <3 Also I am pretty good looking, so life is ez mode for me. Wherever I live, I will be fine. If I was in the USA or some other less retarded country , I would be probably a millionare.by now lol

>>508036768
I literally gave Herzegovina to Croatia

>>508021008

Serbia and Montenegro are so obviously one country it's not even funny, we have identical problems, identical politics, identical advantages, identical culture, almost identical rates of economic growth, extremely similar ethnic groups etc. Montenegro is unironically more similar to Serbia than either Bosnia or Kosovo. The idea of Montenegrin identity separate from Serbian wasn't even a thing throughout history, it's less of a nationality than Bavarian or Dalmatian regional identiities are

Literally the only reason it's separate is that Nato successfuly co-opted the separatist infrastructure put in place by the communists to hijack the small, weak republic (with a smaller population than the city of San Francisco) and make it a breeding ground for its pozzed influence

>>508020768 (OP)
We don't need Macedonia, give it to Bulgaria or Greece.

>>508035428
Too many Balkan statelets, otherwise perfect.

>>508020768 (OP)
fuck off nigger

>>508040404
It's literally part of Bulgaria

>>508039450
>>508039512
>>508040476
I understand completely, best of luck to you and your nation.

>>508031161
Dietsland is also the name for a unified Netherlands that includes Flanders aka Greater Netherlands. Diets and Deutsch do have the same etymological origin and meaning but in more recent times Diets has also come to signify the Dutch folk and language.

>>508020768 (OP)
Just one thing missing

>>508021395
Perfect, just give Königsberg back to Germany and then everything will be blessed

>>508022420
She moved to Switzerland with her family when she was 8. Also according to that artcile:
>In Switzerland, local residents have a say in a person’s passport application.
wtf? lol

>>508042459
unfathomably based

>>508020768 (OP)
Yes, Europe would be so much better off under Russian rule.