Huge amounts of Pacific Northwest public forest lands proposed for sale

>>508022045 (OP)
Not just there but all over the west. Trump is a nigger. He hates public land.

From one hand that's not mine to another that's also not mine

Federal Government was not meant to own all the land. Period. This is about weakening Federal government's power over and in States.

Also this is a good one which will keep Democrats busy for a while. Ever wonder why Democrats are still all about gun control? Because it costs the other side money and time to fight. Democrats want the Federal Government to own EVERYTHING including you! This will keep them occupied lol.

>>508022045 (OP)
Oh no this means home prices could come down

>>508023594
Lol it's all going to be bought by investors

>>508023411
i know the blm and epa can be used as a weapon but trump is a jew and I dont trust him. they want to do more FIRE economy low interest rates to developers to build more houses and fill them with h1bs and make them pay insurance to prop up fake economy

>>508023411
Cut down every old growth forest and sell the lumber to Asian billionaires.

>>508022045 (OP)
>dat Idaho panhandle
If I wasn’t such a drunk I’d start an LLC 501c and crowdfund /pol/ an ethnostate

>>508023553
And democrats kept republicans busy on immigrants so it’s tic for tac. That’s why I have to remains calm.

>>508023873
You're a kike, you trusted the Democrats as they declared more and more private land to be 'wilderness' and then sent in the mining machines. Al Gore's got leases on USFS land to mine as well as BLM which is the best non-black-nobility can do.

>>508024100
This. I heckin love capitalism!

>>508023594
Much of the adjoining land is already owned by logging companies who restrict access. We're going to lose a ton of outdoors and nice spots. I don't think this is a good thing.

>>508023745
In the Idaho panhandle a lot of land is owned by the John Hancock insurance company since they’re required to hold a mixed bag of assets. It might as well be public land since the corporations have it harvested but nobody actually lives there. I go panning for gold on John Hancock property and probably have a ton of pay dirt I’ve excavated but never got around to panning just sitting in a shed

>>508022045 (OP)
Alaska will actually lose the most public land under this plan. It's not actually popular with most Alaskans, since BLM lands and national forests are mostly open-access for hunting and recreation.

>>508024413
Just buy it. That much public land hitting the market at one time is going to crash the price of game land. Start a hunting club and fly in billionaires to a chalet in the mountains with no road access.

>>508022045 (OP)
Link to the sales?

>>508024694
Fuck off chang
AMERICANS ONLY

>>508022045 (OP)
feds selling land is bad, You faggot want to become fucking concrete jungles like hong kong.

>>508022045 (OP)
link please
t. oregonfag that expected this, gunna buy most of the umpqua
God bless Trump on this one.

>>508025149
oh stfu

>>508022045 (OP)
It should be opened for homesteading to minimum 8th generation US citizens, this shit's all going to be bought by foreign trash otherwise.

>>508025575
Remember, you voted for this

>>508025485
I live in the PNW and privately owned land is always restricted access. Wayerhauser and other big companies buy up huge areas then put big gates blocking them off with a hundred "NO TRESPASSING OR WE'LL SUE YOU" signs everywhere. Public forest on the other hand has freely accessible roads everywhere and it's very nice for hiking and camping.
Private land is also poorly managed. You'd think they'd want to protect their investment but no, they let it get overgrown with brush then they hope they don't have a fire.

>>508025240
nevermind. found it. part of big beautiful bill
https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-where-250-million-acres-public-land-being-sold-off-2086852

>>508026026
shut up, fedfag

>>508026026
Depending on the insurance they carry, it is sometimes cheaper or more profitable to have a fire than to harvest or develop particular areas of land.

>>508024169
This

>>508023594
It's going to be entirely section 8 housing
You will get to live within an hour of Mumbai or Mogadishu no matter which part of the country you live in now
All to pay off 0.00005% of the debt

>>508024169
Both sides are destroying the environment. We need a Hitler to come along and establish protected areas and gas everyone who is mismanaging the land

>>508025667
Oregon has had mail in voting since the 1970's and like a single red governor since. It's probably the blueprint for how they did it to the rest of the country.
>>508026026
It is shitty and it would be trivial for them to just monitor who does the dumping and pursue them instead. They just don't want us going anywhere but a vibrant inner city high density nigger hive.

>>508022045 (OP)
So fucking gay

>>508023411
Try not paying taxes on land and find out who really owns it.

this thread glows so bright

>>508022045 (OP)
This makes me a one issue voter. this needs to stop.

>>508023411
this, and checked

>>508023745
>Lol it's all going to be bought by investors
It will all be bought by Blackrock.

anything happening on the west coast is probably part of trump's trade talks with china he will sell to whoever is buying

I hope Blackrock buys it.

>>508022045 (OP)
>But we have a housing shortage and this should fix that: Senator Scott

>>508023411
That's not the plan, though. Giving federal land back to the states for the states to manage would be quite different from auctioning everything off to billionaires, foreign or domestic.

Good.
Manifest Destiny wasn't built on Feds owning land in perpetuity and only leasing it to Corporate Multinational Cronies. It's literally the most Un-American thing I can think of. Like the Revolutionary War in the first place one of its primary motivators was Britain saying "nooooo you can't go into Indian Territory and settle that's bad we won't help you do that" and the Colonists saying we'll do it ourselves then.

This is stupid.
The only reason half the nation is nice is because it is federal forests.
Private land is block off from most of the population.
That is why places like Texas suck so bad in spite of having a lot of freedom . All that freedom just means you can travel with your gun to a bbq restaurant to get fatter before going back home to wallow, and have little beautiful free places to enjoy and be active in. (With the tiny specks of public land so overloaded with hunters you are more likely to catch a stray bullet than in a Chicago, or Detroit, ghetto.

>>508026916
you think the feds just protect land?
nope, they make a fucking fortune selling rights to weyerhaeuser, mining companies, etc

>>508024413
Just go in and camp anyway. If they try to kick you out, shoot them. You're in the wilderness, they'll never know who popped them in the face.

>>508025485
A lot of that is also reservation land being counted as "government".

>>508027114
right on
this thread is fishy...

>>508027572
no it isn't, memeflag

>>508027338
Selling it to faggots and niggers is not the solution. The solution is to keep the land under public control and gas the subhumans who usurped the government.

>>508023411
wrong, because they aren't giving it to the states--they're selling it to their crony developers who want to mine it and build mansions on currently protected forests.

>>508026961
>Woman's name is almost literally Chingchong
kek

>>508023594
I live in Bend, and can't really speak for other areas, but pretty much none of the proposed land around here is suited for development, it's either isolated and far from town or has bad terrain. The biggest landowner in the PNW (and second biggest in the country, after a Canadian group that owns a bunch of forest in Maine) is a Chinese investment group and it's likely that they'll end up buying a lot of this too, and if not these parcels will just end up being some richfag's hunting land.

>>508027721
>subhumans who usurped the government
listen to yourself

>>508027834
The biggest landowner in the Pacific Northwest (PNW) is the Emmerson family, through Sierra Pacific Industries, according to multiple sources. They own approximately 2.4 million acres, primarily in California, Washington, and Oregon, with a focus on timberland. This makes them the largest private landowner in the United States.

ITT, a bunch of people not invited to Galt's Gulch.

>>508027730
Too bad California, Oregon, and Washington seem determined to give that money to illegal aliens instead of using it to buy forest land and preserve it. Tree hugging is a lesser social cause than brown people these days. But environmentalism is white-coded. Sending free money so illegal aliens can get boob jobs is brown coded so it will take precedence.

>>508028053
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Pacific_Industries

>>508028318
Bill Gates has more but a new unique shell corporation buys each parcel and he incorporates in Nevada so nobody knows (except the State Comptroller there) how much property he controls. The corporate veil is very strong there.

>>508028278
the fuck are you on about?

>>508028417
interesting

>>508025667
I didn't vote retard, not after the mess that was 2020.

>>508028428
He is saying that political leadership, at least in Oregon, is more concerned with spending money on trans youth tampon brochures and abolishing school standards because the brown people they are importing are too retarded to read. There is no concern for preserving the outdoor access (the only reason to live in the state) for their citizens, as most of the outside enjoyers are White.

>>508028053
>>508028318
Shit I misread the article, the Shanda Group (the one I was talking about) is the second largest *foreign* landowner, not landowner overall.

>>508028923
Yeah exactly. We'd rather sue small towns for the crime of some guy flashing a Bible near a school than buy up wilderness in the State.

>>508028923
oh. Well that's not true. and we are talking about federal land

>>508028933
>Shanda Group
cool, thanks. checked

>>508028933
Shanda is Hebrew for 'great shame' actually. It's a prank on the goyim.

private, state, and fed
sorry potato pic with no... the thing that explains the colors
so tired from driving I5 S. of Eugene. Fucking white knuckle. So many trucks

>>508029123
It is true:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/05/04/striving-for-menstrual-equity-oregon-puts-tampons-in-mens-bathrooms-at-public-schools-colleges/
https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2021/08/13/oregon-abolishes-academic-standards-in-the-name-of-equity-and-antiracism/
I could go digging for the guidance for elementary schools but you probably won't accept that anyway. Both are on going and you can spend an afternoon looking into it yourself. Also, obligatory: you're a nigger fag.
But anyway, the reason the state should be buying up the lands is to prevent it being lost to the public via private interests closing it off as they consistently do here.

>>508029244
too funny
chewish?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Danian
checked

>>508029732
I don't see the relevance. We are talking about federal land. It has nothing to do with the state, or state land.

>>508029732
nigger, I live in the valley. I know it's fucked.

>>508029792
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4045341/jewish/What-Does-Shanda-Mean.htm

I'm not kidding.

>shame itself is not bad
>only if you get caught and it gets pinned on you is it bad
>feel shame for getting caught, not because you did something shameful

It's fascinating.

>>508030069
it is fascinating. I'm so done with abrahamic shit

>>508030069
I bet we could could hang out

>>508030389
I'm a Christian you'd probably lose your shit.

But the real kind. You see Tucker's thing with Ted Cruz? Tuck's a budding Christian Identitarian.

>>508030299
and no, you don't want to move to Guyana. I looked into it. Pajeet land

>>508030506
I saw that. Tucker is great. I'm pretty much a Paultard.
I'm a Christian by default. '80s televangelism and churches turned me off.
I'm a Jeffersonian Christian at best, but have a ton of love for true Christians.

>>508024554
You're retarded. Alaska is starved for land. Less than 1% of the state is privately owned. We're reaching 50k/acre 30 minutes from town in fucking fairbanks, 1500/acre for literal tussock bog and hour from town. It's worse for the coastal towns surrounded by federal land. It's .5-.75% of their holdings, 1.1-1.7 million acres. It will make fuckall difference for hunting and an enormous difference for actually living.

>>508030506
My Mom and two siblings spoke in tongues, when it was fashionable.
That "gift" seemed to have disappeared in the '90s

>>508031075
this, so much

>>508030848
Bible is fascinating. Did you know Israelites built stone circles wherever they went and they're even in the Bible? Gilgal. It is retained as a place name far and wide as far as Ireland.

>>508031178
Suppression field kicked on - cell phones and such. 5G does beam forming so the local cell focuses a lot of energy on your phone as a pinpoint instead of just radiating omnidirectionally. So do multi-channel wifi devices.

I'm on 802.11b here still because it's the most benign. I run my router at 10% power (I have an older Apple router with a gay 'wifi safety'mode) you can't even connect to my wifi in my front yard.

>>508022045 (OP)
>blm land means anyone can drive out and camp, hunt etc
>now it will be sold to maga donating developers in private auctions normies will never even here about

Absolutely fuck trump for this. It’s unforgivable. Fag.

>>508023594
Housing prices are high because of regulation and labor cost, not lack of available land you fucking retard.

>>508031459
>Suppression field kicked on
no, it was just gibberish. Didn't, and most tongue speaking doesn't have...
glossolalia doesn't have enough binding words to be language

I respect your belief, but I think it's probably not real.

Me;
In philosophy, rationalism is the epistemological view that "regards reason as the chief source and test of knowledge"[1] or "the position that reason has precedence over other ways of acquiring knowledge",[2] often in contrast to other possible sources of knowledge such as faith, tradition, or sensory experience. More formally, rationalism is defined as a methodology or a theory "in which the criterion of truth is not sensory but intellectual and deductive".[3]

In a major philosophical debate during the Enlightenment,[4] rationalism (sometimes here equated with innatism) was opposed to empiricism. On the one hand, rationalists like René Descartes emphasized that knowledge is primarily innate and the intellect, the inner faculty of the human mind, can therefore directly grasp or derive logical truths; on the other hand, empiricists like John Locke emphasized that knowledge is not primarily innate and is best gained by careful observation of the physical world outside the mind, namely through sensory experiences. Rationalists asserted that certain principles exist in logic, mathematics, ethics, and metaphysics that are so fundamentally true that denying them causes one to fall into contradiction. The rationalists had such a high confidence in reason that empirical proof and physical evidence were regarded as unnecessary to ascertain certain truths – in other words, "there are significant ways in which our concepts and knowledge are gained independently of sense experience".[5]

Bump because this is unironically worse than war with Iran.

The public will never get these lands back for 1000 years if he does this. It’s same as ruining an ethnicity. You don’t come back from it.

>>508031874
fucking bullshit, memeflag.
building codes need to change, permit fees need to go down, but land cost is 2/3 of a home.

>>508022045 (OP)

Yeah, but it's in Washington state and Oregon with all the most retarded white liberals in the country. I'd rather just go to hell.

>>508032089
I'm only half kidding about the "non-ionizing radiation." Soviets were able to give people turbo-cancer with it, look up the Theremin bug case.

I don't believe humans are inherently rational and we are given a sense of gut feeling, it might be innate or inculturated or a blend. And this is useful to us so when there is a strong visceral reaction it must be weighed as strongly as reason and science. Your very cells are crying out.

>>508032296
Entirely area dependent. Not even remotely true with these lands that are far away from city centers. Could you be any more of a disingenuous faggot?

>>508032241
>The public
show your national flag
you aren't even close to a Libertarian, or limited gov person. Knock it off.

>>508022045 (OP)
https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/millions-of-acres-of-oregon-land-could-be-sold-under-federal-proposal/


It's real
https://www.reddit.com/r/PNWhiking/comments/1ldxa3j/huge_amounts_of_pnw_public_forest_lands_proposed/
>Why is this not getting more attention? Even most republicans would be against this.

>>508022045 (OP)
so many future walmarts

>>508032537
Oh I’m sorry, I couldn’t understand you with your throat full of maga cult cock gargling.

Fyi, YOU won’t be invited to the land auction, du,b peasant.

>>508032444
checked, and I half agree.
God love you, brother. I mean that, and by no means condescending or anything.
I hate condescending agnostics more than almost anyone.

>>508026241
he’s right you monumentally retarded faggot

anyway, bros
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph60b6c0f18851a
have some PNW outdoors sex

>>508032487
show your flag, cunt
t. trying to buy an acre and build a small dwelling for under 180K in Roseburg area

>>508022045 (OP)
They should bring back the Homestead Act. And land bounties for military service.

>>508032728
>big gov is good
show flag, fake ass Libertarian.

>>508032334
lol the PNW is more right wing than pol the moment you get out of portland, seattle, or eugene.

>>508032894
fedfag

>>508030069
>feeling shame after I do something bad means I'm actually a good person
This is so fucking jewish.

>>508022045 (OP)
Will never ever happen. You think race riots were bad.

>>508033352
it would be nice to see white people chimp out over it

>>508033031
What part of you won’t be invited to the auction do you not understand you selfish piece of shit? Do even know, without looking it up, where this bill even comes from? Trump probably doesn’t know or give a fuck about it. It’s all about returning favors to corrupt shitty politicians. This one is an Utah republican backed Mormon job to fuck the country. Nothing to do with small government.
Now you won’t get to hunt, because it will all be fenced.

>>508033179
It's also the serial killer capital of the world.

>>508033179
truth. Just got back from the South. Over the top right leaning. Still very respectful of the left, but soooo right. HUGE fucking flags everywhere. all the overpasses with flags, unsullied.
so refreshing.

>>508023594
Yeah, nope. Most of the West is waterless and barely habitable, for all its scenic appeal. Local building codes are what elevate home prices.

>>508033457
Meanwhile notice something about Montana? See any lands for sale in Montana on that map? No, you know why, because the repub senator from there knows this is ruinous shit and took a hard stance on it. Other states were spineless.

>>508022045 (OP)
Not a huge fan of this

>>508033457
>you won’t be invited to the auction
you don't understand the MLS at all, do you?

show your fucking flag

If you think this is a good thing, I hope you fucking die. We don't have a nation anymore, "Manifest destiny" is bullshit. The U.S. government isn't a great steward, but they're infinitely better than some kike developer. We don't get more land, you should cherish what we have. If you've never been on a backcountry hike, I pity you.

>>508022045 (OP)
I fucking hate this orange nigger

>>508033664
No. All you do is whine and can’t debate anything of substance.

>>508033665
lol, neighbor of the beast

>be retard
>make false claims on internet
no, devil-san, we are not selling the forests. we need trees for air, retard-sama. we have enough land for homes. we have enough resources for fuel. the forests are ok where they are.
not for sale.

>>508033734
show flag

>>508033179
Kinda Bend too, we've got a lot of liberal California refugees. Nothing close to the big CA cities, Portland, or the Valley though and the whole rest of the county is very conservative, along with like 49% of the Bend population.

>>508033266
>”the feds want to privatize the national land and park resources”
>”that is bad and gay for everyone but private equity firms”
>”you’re a fed for thinking privatization is bad”
??

>>508033665
Anyone that supports the selling of our public lands is an uncultured brownoid

You can just see nature in the internet. You don't really need it.

>>508022192
>T. zigger demoralization shill

Why the fuck should the government control the land, you commie faggot?? If that's how you want to live, then move to Russia or China.

>>508022045 (OP)
So gay. Public parks and hunting grounds are best used. Everything made private will just be mcdonalds strip mall.

>>508033841
yes, you are a faggot fed cunt if you are against privatization. Not sure why you're on this board.
BULLY! you fucking Roosevelt twat.

>>508032296
And (((who))) buys up land with the sole purpose of driving up cost and making a killing? Also, does not your family have land? Before Jews ruled everything, land was cheap, but kikes used high prices to bait whites into selling and leaving their descendants landless slaves. Real estate is the only thing kids should inherit.

>>508033942
MAGA defense force has arrived

>auction off the last free use land in the world (if you were a foreigner you'd know just how rare this is) so chinese billionaires can hoard it and (developers) can fit in infinity jeets and guatemalans so line goes up
if this doesn't radicalize you I don't know what will

>>508022277
nice numbers and recognition of truth

>>508033942
kill yourself, unironically

>>508033853
Probably. I've never seen brownoids innawoods, except when they head to the nat'l forests to trash them with gauche parties they don't feel like cleaning up after.

>>508027834
I actually bought five acres down in Christmas Valley for like 8k a few years back. It's southeast of Bend by about 2 hours iirc. Not much out there besides alfalfa it seems lol. But I did notice quite a few cool natural landmarks in the area. Good for recreation. It's too bad it wasnt over the lithium.

>>508033942
yeah just give the land to corpos so they can dump waste on it and mine the resources in ways that poison the water tables and ruin the local ecology of formerly beautiful public land. china has all the rare mineral resources because they have no problem doing poisonous mineral extraction on their land, which the US has tried to prevent for decades due to how bad it is for the local sexology. kill yourself you abject kike.

>>508022192
Your a nigger you nigger stfu nigger

>>508034038
I can’t wait for you to check your tops map, and start following a road that was blm land, only to find a big fat gate, and FUCK OFF written in Chinese because wumao inc. made a deal and bought half your state.

>>508026557
A lot of that land is the last remaining true Wilderness in the US. If they really want to address the housing shortage, why not re-develop abandoned homes in places like Youngstown, Detroit and Cleveland?

>>508023594
LOL

>>508034038
you’re remarkably fucking stupid and i hope your life is nothing but abject suffering

>>508033942
>Why the fuck should the government control the land, you commie faggot??
Because the alternative is corporations buying it and clear cutting it/developing it so that no one can ever enjoy it again. Figures a NAFO shill would also be anti-nature.

>>508034076
>And (((who))) buys up land with the sole purpose of
Me, to build a home on.
I had a family home in Salem. Sold it to escape Salem, and buy land away from the valley. But, it's all owned by the government. "public" is a joke.

>>508033989
Like 2/3rds of all of Utah's land is federal land. Over 4/5ths of all of Nevada is federal land. That is absurdly massive for a state to not control its own territory, and so much of that land is not national park status just random BLM land that already is desolate and can only be improved upon by privatizing or handing over to the states themselves

>>508034038
Or worse, Chinese investors using an elaborate system of shell companies (working with the Jews, of course) may buy it all up with their US debt. Say goodbye to remote forest camping! If you want to camp out, it's $30/night to be stuck around generators, screeching children and arguing parents in a cuckground.

>>508034316
no, I'm pretty sharp, and don't suffer.

>>508030299
>>508030553
What did your ancestors do before they became Christians?

>>508022045 (OP)
>Cuts down trees to supplement the oversupply in Lumber
>Creates housing land that can't be used because of zoning laws

It's an interesting move nobody wants

>>508033834
I heard that eastern Oregon wants to become Idaho. That's how much they disagree with whatever happens in Portland.

>>508034270
This has zero to do with the housing crisis. It’s an outright lie. It has everything to do with selling off previously untouched lands to inside cronies for profit. That’s it.

>>508034336
What the fuck is wrong with Tesla building a plant out in bumfuck, Nevada though? That's only an improvement over the land that even the pioneers wept they had to cross over.

>>508023594
>>508023745
They already are holding a ton of empty houses to deny the market, this effectively puts them in a position where they have to pay a shit ton of taxes or lose their monopoly.

>>508034598
What are you gonna do about it? No one gives a shit about nature.

>>508022045 (OP)
Not a single fucking red blooded American supports this shit, just kikes and h1b parasites

>>508034598
Exactly.

>>508034539
Well, English Quakers as far back as I can go.
Pagans before that. The history of England basically

based trump sticking it to big government by selling off land to rich foreign investors!!! M.A.L.P.
make america a libertarian paradise(shithole)

>>508034647
Most of the land is not desert. Most of it is rain forests, old growth forests, etc.

>>508026026
Buy it when it's for sale if you feel that strongly about it. Fuck the federal government and fuck their land hording. They owe money. Money they can't pay.

>>508023411
Yeah, just partition the remaining natural heritage of America between a handful of aristocratic families. That's great for the people of the west. Fucking faggot

>>508034407
Not even close. OP's map shows actual USFS plots within national forest declaration boundaries. Nearly everything along the roads is private. "Fuck off, we're full" is the norm. Newcomers not welcome.

>>508022277
>public land is not mine
nice astroturf kike, public land is all of ours and it's available for anyone to enjoy

>>508034702
Civilization is, by its very nature, a long-running Ponzi scheme. It lives by robbing nature and borrowing from the future, exploiting its hinterland until there is nothing left to exploit, after which it implodes. While it still lives, it generates a temporary and fictitious surplus that it uses to enrich and empower the few and to dispossess and dominate the many. Industrial civilization is the apotheosis and quintessence of this fatal course. A fortunate minority gains luxuries and freedoms galore, but only by slaughtering, poisoning, and exhausting creation. So we bequeath you a ruined planet that dooms you to a hardscrabble existence, or perhaps none at all.

-William Ophuls

>>508034702
clearly a lot of people ITT do

>>508034761
Most of the land to be put up for sale or most federal land generally? Because if it's the latter then that's definitely not the case, most federal land out west is practically desert.

>>508034751
I’m not even sure libertarians want this. The orange tard is just going to sell it all off to Blackrock and once again con the MIGAtards.

Like when he claimed America was ‘reclaiming’ the canal but it actually just meant blackrock buying up a couple container terminals which promptly got cock blocked by the Chinese government.

>>508034761
Ah yes the Reno rainforest is lovely during this time of year.

>>508033989
This.
I have a huge vested interest in this because the PNW is my home and I can't bear to see it spoiled more. It is already unbearable having to deal with darkies, kikes, and faggots that litter everywhere and make everything smell like shit from their gay fucking weed.
Last thing we need is more fucking corpos here.

anyway

>>508034794
So Jews are stripping America of its public land to service the debt? What's next? Every interstate highway privatized and turned into a toll road? $500 tolls for a passenger car to cross the country. I can easily see this happening.

>>508034929
The land that's being put up for sale. No one wants to buy a bunch of useless desert. It's the resources the corporations are after. Old growth trees in particular are extremely valuable. But those aren't a renewable resources. It's pure greed.

>>508034232
I've never been down to Christmas Valley but people here always talk about it like it's straight out of a hillbilly horror movie. Given the kind of people saying it I have a suspicion it might be based.

>>508025240
>gunna buy most of the umpqua
No you aren't, blackrock is, and then they are going to fill it with Somalians

>>508034508

>>508022045 (OP)
Horrible.

>>508028428
>>508028923
No no, what he was saying was;
>I don't have an answer to your criticism that this is just about selling our trees to foreigners, not state's rights or whatever bullshit I made up, so here's some bloviation about libruls and the homeless.

They will couch all this shit in free market lingo and blame the libs and whine about "environmentalism" and "hippies," but the fact remains that it's just Trump logging forests for temporary profits.

The lands aren't even going back to the states or anything! They just sell the logging rights to logging companies, the feds keep the land itself.

>>508033130
he's right pussy, there is absolutely no benefit to the average citizen for the firesale of national land to corporations. you're a retarded bootlicking piece of shit.

>>508034947
>I’m not even sure libertarians want this.
Libertarians are okay with anything as long as the market approves. They are backwards and put market approval before reality. Both Marxism and Capitalism are backwards in this way where they prioritize the economy to be a certain way and think improvements will just automatically happen downstream of that instead of just lessening or tightening government control based on circumstance and the needs of the people like Classical and Fascist economics do

>>508034555
Yeah. There's also the whole Jefferson movement that's been around forever, basically rural far NorCal plus everything in Oregon east of the Cascades except Bend wanting to become a new state that'd be very conservative.

>>508035021
I am completely fine with it as I use solar power offgrid, but trees annoy the shit out of me.

>>508033834
>>508034555
the west border of Idaho is super right wing, especially in cour d'laine or whatever

>>508034270
Leave Detroit alone my man Eminem is from there

>>508035021
What's truly sad is that we can log dead-standing trees. There's a window of like, 3 years after a fire where cooked conifers will be marketable. The problem with that is nobody wants to manage our forests sustainably. Why turn a marginal profit trying to make the forest healthier, when you can come in and high-grade (take all the healthiest, prime trees)? This is what Trump wants to do.

>>508035280
How do you go outside and keep your blood pressure down?

>>508034805
With no road access, you'd essentially have to fly in to your own property kek

>>508035280
>hurr turr me no like tree
get a load of this reddit bug person

>>508035596

reminder that the state controls zoning of private land, and feds have declared most of the state as fire or flood zone, so no insurance

>>508024146
There’s no water up in the national forests, it’s steep as fuck and rocky. A few lakes though.

"public"

>>508035807
lol
tons of creeks and springs

>>508033942
>Why the fuck should the government control the land
because they'll sell it to some company in a different country and they'll shitify it or charge you to even enter the area lmao

>>508035726
insurance is one of the most jewish industries in existence

NIMBY Oregon is in control. No doublewide ruining my view
anyone who has bough or sold a property knows this

>>508036065
true, but you can't get a home (((loan))) without it

>>508035726
It's crazy because there are floodout houses in Washington for like 400k right now despite not being able to take a loan, NIMBYs just aren't letting go.

>>508022045 (OP)
Some kike probably plans to buy it all and sell it for 350k per half acre.

>>508036216
I was looking at a prop in S. oregon near a creek. The only building allowed had to have a garage on the first floor with doors on two ends, so the creek could pass through under your dwelling. Fucking nuts. And shit ground water, but you can't legally pump and filter the creek water. Too crazy
a lot of people are saying fuck it, come and give me a stop build order, see what happens

>>508022045 (OP)
Gotta chop it all down for future low rent housing.

>>508036627
>so the creek could pass through under your dwelling
maybe, in the next 30 years, possibly, even though there are tons of established homes that haven't flooded in 100 years

>>508036743
yes, exactly. You know how much an apartment is here?
And there is so much undeveloped land here. It would take another million people to even make a dent.
But the planners...

>>508037086

>>508037403

>>508022192
the Feds own too much land in the west. As long as they aren't selling the national parks I don't really care

>>508034761
>rain forests
>in nevada

>>508034647
The federal government can make individual deals. Puting a bunch of prime open spaces up for sale is retarded, it will hardly affect the debt. The US having large swathes of nature available to thw public is one of its best features

>>508037977
>pacific northwest
>nevada

>>508038585
To everyone here that knows what this means. They are going to turn the entire west into the east coast.

Thanks trump you fucking faggot.

how is this thread getting slid so hard. fuck jannies, man.

What kind of fucking retard supports selling this land to private investors?
>b-but the government shouldnt own it!
I would rather the government own it because that is land that they legally cant tell me to leave. It is all public land. When some kike buys the land he will put up fencing and no trespassing signs, further restricting my access to nature and forcing me to stay in the disgusting urban nigger hives.

>>508033942
You are worse than subhuman. A tick with Lyme disease is worth more than you, a mosquito with malaria is worth more than you. In a just world if you said these things you would be tortured till the day you die naturally of old age.
You deserve to have the worst torture of all time performed on you daily and then put into a medical coma the moment you're about to die until fully recuperated so it can start over again. Every second of your waking existence should exist of nothing but pain, pain which is shown all over the world and cheered for by the masses for your crimes against not just humanity but mother Earth itself.

I hope someone rapes your neo-vagina and asshole simultaneously with a wooden bat that's splintered all over and stuck through with nails and light dusting of glass shards glued on.

This is what a just society would do to you.

>>508040426
>and that they legally cant tell me to leave.
lol
yes they can. huge swaths are leased to private companies already. You can go to the parks, sometimes, unless covid or some fucking fed stop work union thing

>>508035017
Was inevitable. Next time don't spend 100 years racking up debts for cheap chink trinkets.
Who am I kidding?
There isn't going to be a next time.

>>508041106
>you shouldn't have gone to the airport, I'm surprised, at you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTRl5qq-exQ

>>508022277
in idaho you can camp on and public land

>>508022045 (OP)
why do mutts take pride in some rich timber corporation that Trumps been bribed by cutting down the last of their old growth forests? like what do they get out of it they will never see a penny of what will be made by these corporations.

like just how retarded are these people its perplexing

>>508022045 (OP)
55 posts

>>508042960
the state of oregon controls zoning of all private property. The feds already sell right to timber, mining, water, oil, etc The feds determine land use on fed property, you fucking leaf

>>508022045 (OP)
Bro

Cheap homesteading land?

Im in for this new land rush

How many billions of dollars do we waste each year on forests that could be going to our seniors and veterans? The Democrats seem to be fine with veterans living out on the streets as long as the parks service get their money laundering.

>>508031874
least delusional kike on /pol/

you dipshits realize bthe feds own almost nothing East of the Rocky Mountains? Still massive amounts of unspoiled land there, under private ownership.
I want Oregon to be as affordable as the Carolinas
The West is a Fed piggy bank, and established after people would not allow gov land ownership back East

>>508022045 (OP)
>Trump is selling land oregon refuses to manage so they can let it burn and cry muh climate change moar taxesss instead
Based

>>508043300
That's the only way land should be distributed. Room for more WHITE families to live.

this thread glows
most of the not purple places have more nature than you could ever want to see, all in ebil private hands.
so much glow

>>508022045 (OP)
You are about to go to war with Sasquatch bro's. They are fucking huge, strong and fast.

>>508044386
whatayatakinabeet?

>>508044267
Absolutely. I hope I, and others can be good caretakers of these pristine lands

37% of posts by this ID

>>508044386
never exhale

>>508031874
Lol. An acre of land capable of being subdivided is 1 mil plus in my area. I guess ypu don't understand that developers will over pay for raw land if it means they get to buy all of it. Only a fool would see this proposal as a good thing for the middle class. This will benefit huge developers and investors. Don't get me wrong, it will never happen but if it did..

>>508046013
>An acre of land capable of being subdivided is 1 mil plus in my area.
CA?, PDX, Seattle? lol this fucking place

>>508046013
>it will never happen
if the big beautiful bill passes, it happens
kind of a trade off

Homestead squad where you at

>>508047548
back in time hours ago

>>508022045 (OP)
>for sale
To whom?

>>508023594
deporting shit colored non-Americans first would solve this

>>508044648
>>508044983
Based.

>>508048945
To Jewish investors on Wall St., of course

>>508026164
how can i get some of this land? as long as actual Americans are the ones owning this land, its good.

>>508046180
Yeah. It could be anywhere on the west coast along I5 though. We have so many jeets now it's unreal. They distract from all of the other unwanted racial groups which seem quaint in hindsight. We must have hundreds of thousands of them within 30 miles of me. They're everywhere.

>>508022045 (OP)
Another Blackrock win.

>>508049658
haha, lol, lmao

They're selling it to develop nigger housing. They should hand the land over to the states on the grounds that it be a nature preserve

>>508022045 (OP)
This is fucked. It better not go through. This is what makes America America. What a dumb nigger.

>>508034414
You fucking nigger. Have you ever gone hunting for fishing? You do it on BLM land. This is the end of the wilderness as we know it if it goes through.

>>508049658
It won't be us dude. Do you have millions in cash ready to go? Or access to some massive loans on raw land which I don't even know how that works. They don't like loaning money on land without a house or building already built on it. Just building an access road to some of these spots in areas I'm familiar with on the map would be a huge undertaking. My thought is this is meant to sell to timber companies as land for logging.

>>508050108
anon the idea they're selling 250 million acres to solve the housing crisis and write down the federal debt is such a bad faith argument i dont know what else to tell you. and selling it down to the states comes with the fact that states can barely budget the costs themselves, often leading to selling the land off anyway. all of this is just a literal plutocrat/kleptocrat scheme to privatize more of the country and sell it off to the globalist traitors who are sucking the country dry. i feel real bad for all the states getting fucked by this, as my states rep managed to keep us off of this awful "deal"

>>508044334
Is everyone here a nigger? Private property will never be wilderness. This is one of the few things we want to keep public. You can't go backpacking through people's fenced ranches. Does anyone here go backpacking?

>>508034245
local sexology?

>>508022045 (OP)
They says its for housing but the Americans arent having replacement babies. Houses for who? Blackrock and immigrants

>>508025485
Imagine how many jeets could fit in all that land!

>>508049658
stupid fucking nigger lmao

>>508050828
Niggers don't want to live in the middle of the forest. White "trash" stuck in Goldberg's Mobile Home Village deserve a chance to build a better life for themselves in the wild lands.

>>508022045 (OP)
I support the federal government selling land, but it needs to make sure to keep some of the land to use to build affordable middle class neighborhoods for the American people, as well as perhaps for future infrastructure going through land

>>508051256
Also the fed gov selling land needs to be done incrementally, carefully, and in the interest of the American middle class

>>508051256
ah yes, because that's exactly what we need
more designated rural and suburban retard breeding grounds

>>508022045 (OP)
Of course he has. Our politicians have done nothing but sell our land, real estate, natural resources and job opporunities out to foreign countries for the last 30 fucking years.

>>508051447
Yeah yeah, we get it. America needs more synagogues for the elites and diverse "walkable" ghettos with $800/month bunk beds for the slaves.

>>508022045 (OP)
Linkum pleasum?

>>508050108
Then we must all buy it NOW. If you really were all white men you'd join together and we'd all be doing this, do not allow niggers to take that pristine land, do not, do not, DO NOT

>>508022045 (OP)
>>508022192
This is what you west coast fags get for letting the federal government cuck you out of all that land.
It was never "public" land. It was always owned by Washington. You should've taken it back while you had the chance, but you didn't, and now it will be sold to the highest bidder.

>>508025485
I'm fully convinced that niggers who argue for LESS forest service/blm land are all just skinnyfat cityfags who have never even tried to go on a hike
>walking in a park with trees and a hill is not hiking