This is why Trump’s out - /pol/ (#508022526) [Archived: 1026 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: uGL/vrVPUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:10:34 PM No.508022526
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Basically told by the Pentagon the reality of the bunker buster working was law. They would have to use a strategic nuke to blow the mountain up before dropping the bomb and and there was a high likelihood it wouldn’t hit its target. Only way to stop Iran’s nuclear project is making Iran do it which would mean a full on war
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Anonymous ID: Bg/aDW3KNetherlands
6/19/2025, 11:14:40 PM No.508022904
>Internal weapon bay size on stealth bombers maxxed out
>Can't make a bigger bomb to penetrate deeper
>lack of stealth makes mission entirely unthinkable
Geeeeg
Their only hope is making like 60 custom super sized penetrator bombs and seeing if 60 B-52s is enough to make it happen
Anonymous ID: w097Lh+QUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:14:59 PM No.508022926
>>508022526 (OP)
What are the real reasons for them not wanting iran to have a nuke? We all know iran isn't going to nuke another nuclear power, because that would be suicide. If they were actually unhinged enough to do that, they'd have sent out lord of the rings style massive land invasion already. So what's the real reason?
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Anonymous ID: 7QnUfRa4Latvia
6/19/2025, 11:15:47 PM No.508022988
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>>508022526 (OP)
He needs thyme OK!!!
Anonymous ID: Hbc1NC4xAustralia
6/19/2025, 11:17:55 PM No.508023194
>>508022926
Nuclear bombs are the greatest defence against regime change. If Iran gets a nuclear bomb, Israel won't be able to kill its leaders and create a cluster fuck civil war that kills millions of people and causes another refugee crisis into Europe.
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Anonymous ID: hUU2oLZUUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:19:34 PM No.508023354
>>508022926
The Jews are famously paranoid
Anonymous ID: CbzAVzVnUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:19:47 PM No.508023375
>>508022926
once you get a nuke it's much harder to do regime change or to push them around, nuclear weapons give a sort of heightened sovereignty and the US doesn't want any countries getting them especially those not aligned with them
not that any of this is about nukes
Anonymous ID: xlne5crgAlbania
6/19/2025, 11:20:17 PM No.508023423
>>508023194
Iranian nuke is actually ideal from a Halachic point of view. Israel wants an excuse to use the Samson option, after being nuked first they have the retaliator's justification which YHWH accepts.
Anonymous ID: eSHEUiUmUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:20:51 PM No.508023479
>>508022526 (OP)
Yep
Seems like Trump from the beginning wanted this to just be a one-and-done strike like Soleimani but with that off the table he’s backing out unless Bibi can come up with something else
Anonymous ID: IePELvpsUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:21:50 PM No.508023578
>>508022926
Tell that to North Korea. It's the MAD doctrine - mutually assured destruction. Nukes keep your country safe.
Anonymous ID: AyIL7+I3United States
6/19/2025, 11:22:46 PM No.508023674
>>508022926
Destabilizing the Middle East and the oil supply. Iran gets a nuke can shut channel down and threaten other Middle East countries. This is why Europe does not want them to have nukes.
Anonymous ID: fygvUm3wUnited States
6/19/2025, 11:25:20 PM No.508023930
>>508022526 (OP)
Bibi really screwed the pooch on this one.
If he stands down then he's done politically, if he ratchets it up then Tel Aviv will look like Gaza.
Anonymous ID: pFbxPeJ1United States
6/19/2025, 11:30:26 PM No.508024463
>>508022926
If Iran gets a nuke that means a middle eastern country has sovereignty and can become an umbrella to protect or bully smaller regional powers, in opposition to US doing that. It means all our toppled satellite countries in the middle east now have a new potential patron who can take them and suddenly the west can no longer control middle eastern oil production and mineral extraction, ie no more dollar hegemony. It would mean there could be a third bases of sovereign power in the world, in addition to NATO and China, and that could have a domino effect granting Africa and potentially even south America their own sovereign basis of existence. Basically, bye bye new world order. I read in a book written in the 70s about how nuclear power meant a new world global governance was inevitable, but Iran getting nukes could throw that prediction into the trash, and might even potentially start a nuclear war. Developed countries have far more to lose in a nuclear war than undeveloped countries too, so they might be more willing to use them in a first strike than we are.
That is why they want Iran to unconditionally surrender. If they can take over Iran, then there will be no more middle eastern opposition, and the only countries left to contain would be Russia and China.