Thread 508065355

"For Spain, committing to a 5% target would not only be unreasonable, but also counterproductive, as it would move Spain away from optimal spending and it would hinder the EU's ongoing efforts to strengthen its security and defense ecosystem," Sánchez wrote in the letter seen by The Associated Press.

Spain was the lowest spender in the trans-Atlantic alliance last year, directing less than 2% of its GDP on defense expenditure.

Sánchez said in April that the government would raise defense spending by 10.5 billion euros ($12 billion) in 2025 to reach NATO's previous target of 2% of GDP.
>There really are plans to force a military in Europe
>The only reason our president wont do it is because he and his friends want that money for themselves
Lmao

>>508065355 (OP)
Sánchez wrote that the country is "fully committed to NATO," but that meeting a 5% target "would be incompatible with our welfare state and our world vision." He said that doing so would require cutting public services and scaling back other spending, including toward the green transition
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Too many old farts, muslims and gypsies draining the welfare lmao

>>508065355 (OP)
I hope the Russians like Gazpacho.

Amerimutts want Europeans to kill each other for their profit. This is at the same time that they have fertility problems and are getting ethnically replaced.
White men will kill each other for nothing again.

>>508065355 (OP)
>Spend more on defense
>"it would hinder the EU's ongoing efforts to strengthen its security and defense ecosystem"

wat

>>508065355 (OP)
What is 2% of your gdp like 3,5€?
Our retard chancellor happily wants to spend 5% which would be 220 billion or something like that.
Oh well but sadly he wants to cut my tendies bucks for it. Fuck that.

>>508065355 (OP)
Everytime I see him I confuse him with him.

>>508065620
Jews are demanding unrealistic shit
You wanted to kill whites now you have less whites and those remaining don't want to serve you
It's called consequences. Europeans hate their fucking leaders, why would we die for them

>>508065455
>would be incompatible with our welfare state

Our government quickly approved it before the elections. Now the government is demissionary they can't be send away anyway.

>>508065355 (OP)
During the first 20 or 30 or so years of Israel we spent 25% of GDP in the military.
In the 1948 war we had 100.000 soldiers with a total civilian population of around 600.000
Its normal in warrior cultures such as the ancient arabs or the mongols for every male to be a soldier. Like the entire population moves and fights

>>508066039
Is it warrior culture to throw grenades at factory workers ?

>>508065891
Theyre going to conscript you and close the borders

>>508065355 (OP)
These non-contributing leeches need to get the boot. Not just Spain, all of them.

>>508066303
That's your militarys plan. They will let the EU find itself while your military attacks China directly. All for globohomo

>>508065355 (OP)
>less than 2% of its GDP on mutt trash
Still far too much
For a tiny fraction of that 2%, we can just have good relations with Russia

>>508065355 (OP)
Spain needs to be kicked out of nato since they're not willing to pay the bill.

>>508065996
That would be like 62+ billion USD. Close to what France is spending today.

>>508065891
Theres nothing unrealistic about 5% defense spending. Not that Spain needs any defense, you should leave Nato, nobody needs you and Spain doesnt need any serious defense force

>>508066432
Why don't you just leave nato you cancerous kike slave

>>508065355 (OP)
It's starting, more and more real UFO's sighted in the skies, whatever you do, do not board the ships.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zP5w1o5VkBw

>>508066156
They won't. Leaders are too cowards and literally shat their pants when our 80 years old weak grandpas protested against losing 10% of their pension. How the fuck do they expect to drag younger people?
Same reason niggers were supposed to be your slaves and trump and jews are too fucking terrified of offending them/deporting them

>Spain being more fiscally conservative and responsible than Germany
Times are changing

>>508066479
>nothing unrealistic about 5% defense spending.
It's just retarded when there's no active threats to a country at all, it only encourages political adventurism especially among subhumans, such as yourself

>>508065887
Iberian phenotype

>>508066479
Same shit how nobody needs you jews, hell, countries would actually IMPROVE without jews, I don't think your interracial porn, cuck fetish, LGBT, feminism, etc etc mental illness is worth making American send you 20 billions every month

>>508065355 (OP)
For Spain increasing military spending pretty much means buying american weapons. That's what perro means with "hindering the EU's security ecosystem"

Besides, this nigger isn't gonna spend more than 2% on defense, it's just not gonna happen, slashing welfare and raising taxes would be suicide for him or whichever mongoloid happens to "rule" this maimed shithole.

>>508066483
Bitch, we ARE nato.

I'd love for the US to pull all military assets out of europe and let you pay for your own defense.

>>508066483
we ARE nato, you impotent bitch. if you want a euro only club, start your own.

>>508066638
Without you mutt golems stirring up shit for your kike masters, we don't actually need much defense at all
Just fuck off and never come back, nigger worshipping mongrels

>>508066039
Be grateful to American taxpayers rather than your mhu warriors' asses.

>>508066718
Take your faggy NATO with you then, and go die for Israel you mutilated little slave

>>508066575
hes right, whats the purpose of being in NATO far away from any problems in the world? literally pointless waste and risk as youre a target in a hypothetical ww3 scenario

>>508066039
>we spent 25% of gdp
whose gdp I wonder
>>508066303
fight your own wars moshe

>>508065355 (OP)
He is right, technology is changing so fast, the military stuff you buy today is probably obsolete/outdated in 3-5 years.

>>508066039
>warrior cultures
kike, you only won spying. Now Iran is turning you into gaza, RAT.

Bro you have to spend 5 percent of your total output as a nation on our shitty weapons that can't even beat Russia a country with a fraction of the population of nato countries please buy our marked up junk or the or you will lose your heckin freedom

>>508066039
is this before or after you poisoned the wells of civilians with typhoid

>>508066555
Naah the difference is just that Germany has relatively low debt and good finances and our chancellor is okay with cutting some welfare to pay for it while Spain is not.
I rather want big sexy bombs than spent even 1 euro on feeding a worthless nigger.

>>508066784
We were happier with our pesetas
Euro wasn't worth it

>>508067109
Enjoy becoming Spain mate

>>508066974
I didnt say we are a warrior culture. You retards cant read

>>508065964
A Spaniard stole your girl, didn't he?

This scummy free-riding piece of shit is more loyal to the cause of simping for Arabs than to the defense of fellow European nations. There's a special place in hell for traitors like that

>>508066720
>Nigger worshipping mongrels
>Has niggers im the caribbean that freely come and go to its faggot swamp.

Lmao

>>508067187
Why and how?
We will fuel our German arms industry which is a big exporter to the world too while a worthless nigger will never be productive.

>>508065355 (OP)
Fuuck I wish Poland had balls like this and didn't larp a fleshlight. 5% is so fucking much for old useless MITC trash (americans won't give us the useful stuff, just decommisioned waste), we shouldn't be a vasal state like that, I wish our politicians had the balls to go against US with the cyber-giant tax and going back to 3ish% for defence (or at least not buying shit from jewmericans).
Focus on building the millitary nessesities here, and buy other stuff only scarcely please please please, debt in own currency to pay for stuff in-borders is monopoly money for a country, USD/euro debt is a huge liability.

>>508067353
Difference is they're not worshipped, retarded zogbot, in fact antillians are openly despised by just about everyone

>>508067329
You jews are the ones who wanted to replace Europeans with muslims kek, why the fuck are you so fucking retarded? Obviously even your paid politicians will turn your back on you as soon as Mohammed appears stronger and with more money through the door

>>508067070
>>508066974
>>508066871
>>508066738
>>508066148
>all this seething
the jew is just posting an informative fact

>>508066638
>I'd love for the US to pull all military assets out of europe and let you pay for your own defense.
The US won't leave NATO nor will let Spain leave given its geostrategical position. If you do, you are taking the risk of letting Spain fall under the influence of another country that may not be in good terms with the US.
From the US perspective, the best solution would have been to root out corruption from this country to strengethen its economy (so we can afford to pay your weapons) while keeping the government as your puppet. But for some reason you didn't take enough care about your pet country and now we are seeing some of the most evident consequences.

>>508066784
>far away from any problems in the world
Spain's army is in shambles and Morocco is claiming our African cities and the Canary Islands while building up its own army. We need NATO as long as we are a weak country, and NATO needs us so we don't become a Chinese or Russian puppet country.

>>508066479
Shut the fuck up jew. You don't get to tell other countries what to do anymore. You still haven't figured out what is going on here.

>>508065355 (OP)
At this point at least 50% of our GDP goes towards giving Moroccan niggers gibs. This guy and his government are a bunch of fucking clowns.

>>508067963
Is Morocco really such a big deal?
Aren't they pretty much a non nation?
Why not give the canaries to their rightful owners the Germans and we will protect it then properly?

>>508065500
i hope you like iranian drones

>>508065711
The ride wasn't going to last forever. Thankfully you have no real threats other than Russia, and relations with them can be patched up

>>508066483
>get mad when someone suggests a single nato member pay what others are willing to pay
>your solution is to suggest something that would require the remaining members to pay even more
European emotional intelligence

>>508068314
The only real threat is the usa and their Jewish masters but we can't do shit against it until the usa finally balkanises in many smaller weaker nations.

>>508068199
>Is Morocco really such a big deal?
>Aren't they pretty much a non nation?
They are starting to be close to our military capacities. Their army is dogshit if compared with any serious country, but Spain is not.
>Why not give the canaries to their rightful owners the Germans and we will protect it then properly?
You already have the Balearic Islands. Don't be greedy.

>>508068409
Better than American Bureaucracy "intelligence"

>>508067783
What he's saying is that the kikes maintained their insane wartime regime with both official and unofficial financial support from the United States. Yeah, the kikes also may have made an effort to do so, as easily as possible. Still, this is a story from wartime.
So what? For European countries that face no direct threat, spending 5% of their GDP is a waste of money. They have no sovereignty, and even if their military is powerful, it will only be exploited by the ZOG while their countries are being ravaged by termites.
The kike have no self-awareness and just keep saying that they are working hard while the goyim are always lazy.
Just like how they forcefully impose the acceptance of those refugees on the goyim while imposing speech control through the mhu Nazis, and then lecture them about not addressing the issue of the muzzies.

>>508067783
who cares? israel basically lives off from USAID gibs

>>508068542
I'm talking about realistic military threats. Sure, the US could bomb you back into the iron age and likely would be able to propagandize your libtard masses into compliance. But that's just not going to happen
>>508068602
Your remarks to nothing to address my criticism of his suggestion and aren't even clever

>>508068546
>They are starting to be close to our military capacities.
What's their average IQ? You would likely still decimate them

>>508065355 (OP)
Spain would be stupid to increase spending on the military nobody is going to invade them expect migrants.

>>508068546
>You already have the Balearic Islands. Don't be greedy.
Hehe but this is really a leadership problem from your side since we're all allied after all and I'm sure if a war broke out it would be finally a righteous war and millions of Europeans would want to serve to kill filthy mudslimes.
You need to get away from retarded socialist leaders who give nonstop concessions to shitskins. Outsmart those slimes so they attack you first so you will have all of Europe automatically on your side.

>>508065355 (OP)
Reeeeeeee give kikes more money

>>508065355 (OP)
They should quit. I'm not saying this as a GTFO, but what does Spain need NATO for? They are isolated from any potential threath.

>>508065355 (OP)
Spain is smart. The whole NATO thing is US protection. Let the US pay for it.

>>508068904
>nobody is going to invade them expect migrants
Morocco

>>508068947
Let's do it like this. You reinstate the Kaiser and Prussia and we let you rule Europe (except the UK because it's full of pakis).

>>508068798
It's not only about current threats it's about investing in your own military industry and invest in technology.
We see with Ukraine that they only survive thanks to handouts from the west or Israel who gets most stuff from the usa but even the usa becomes more and more unpopular so it's a real national security risk when your nation is not able to produce everything indigenous.

This is an attempt to spread the so excessive military expenses of the amerishart Empire among its vassal states, where thier burden is only increasing without almost any benefits.
It would be an attempt to exploit Trumpism, temporarily stir up Eurocucks' anti-American sentiment, and then discard him after using him to the maximum extent possible to reinforce the existing imperial system.
Then, replace Trump with the next Democrat globohomo cuck, make peace with the Euro fools, and the farce will be over for a while. However, the system will not last forever, and things will not go according to their plan.

>>508069333
That's a more proactive approach and is a good way to frame it. My original point was that the era where the US was generally the biggest spender and arguably the backbone of NATO is ending. And the Ukraine war pretty much cemented that, I think even pre Trump 2 Europe had given more aid to Ukraine than the US

>>508069325
Ironically current heir of Hohenzollern wishes to reinstalling a monarchy and said it would help Germans with moral and a uniting force within the population which is obviously true.
Maybe in the future who knows.

>>508069446
The benefit is that the prior arrangement continues with slightly altered terms. Most people can't handle dramatic change and the same goes for markets

>>508065355 (OP)
It's starting, more and more real UFO's sighted in the skies, whatever you do, do not board the ships.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zP5w1o5VkBw

>>508069511
Overall Europe together gave much more equipment and money than the USA did and the only important part from the usa is giving Intel with your awacs always flying and your satellites together with all your advisors of course.

>>508067963
>we can’t handle Arab monkeys in Africa.

How Europeans have fallen

>>508065355 (OP)
5% GDP is an obscene number burgers are chastising us with these proposals

>>508067435
Spain is surrounded by seas and mountains far away from trouble you don’t have that luxury

>>508070014
Ye, but I am not sure that tossing american fat cats USD for decomissioned junk would help us, and any millitary engagements are (god I hope so, Russia invading Poland would be completely out of the blue, but on the other hand they do not have any different way to put us in their rotting sphere of influence) far enought away to try to relign ourselves away from america (maybe even towards china).

>>508065355 (OP)
Europe has been living in a dollhouse for the better part of a century. Spain doesn't even meet 2%

>>508069511
The problem is the price is too high. We don't want USA money if that comes with jews politics.
It's like what happened in Valencia with that flood, turns out neighbours managed on their own whole the govt did NOTHING and the sandniggers were stealing shops.
The govts and jews (since Americans don't rule, you are going bankrupt thanks to your retarded Jews) have been draining too much there is no point in anything
Sure why do we need weapons? We have sandniggers having kids every fucking day.

>>508068199
>Is Morocco really such a big deal?
>Aren't they pretty much a non nation?
Israel and the US are arming them

>>508065455
Oh no, the parasites!

>>508067261
no but a hundred million Spaniard mongrels invaded my country

>>508071543
You should worry about your kike problem first