Marcron wants Europeans to buy the Rafale. Will Europe be convinced?

>>508089144 (OP)
Is this the one they told the streetshitters to stop flying?

Are they still building Eurofighters

>>508089144 (OP)
Yes, we already bought them, they are great.

>>508089144 (OP)

No. It's shit. When has been in war? Libya with no air defense? The only time it's been in actual war it's had more losses. Scam artists. Not that the F35 is doing well either. But it's better.

>>508089701
Yeah. And it has never seen combat.

god i wish his husband would beat him to death

>>508091399

F35 has a history of recalls since launch and a number of performance issues and losses. Technically you'd assume the Mirage was better until India goes and loses a number. Its wartime debut. Where the F35 is actively on that field outside of patrols. Performing despite its numerous faults. The issue or topic is subjective of costs and repairs.

>>508089144 (OP)
no one wants them. India showed how inferior they are when used in battle. sorry but you will need to continue to buy American.

>>508091966
kek pajeet probably got diarrhea
Greece will show how good they are when the turkroaches get greedy again
>>508091966
>sorry but you will need to continue to buy American
if anything we should phase out American hardware completely, and if you don't like it elect more respectful presidents

>>508089144 (OP)
Yes if we get the nukes with it. We can drop that shity f35 failjet and get something real.

Rafale lost to a chinkjet

>>508094075
you make it sound as if it were a 1v1 when it was a battle of 250 fighters.
you don't know for a fact that it was a Rafale that went down, could have been any other of the 5 possible fighters they have, you don't know how it went down...if it were one out of formation fighter vs 10 or whatever, you don't know anything
you just look retarded

>>508089325
Yes. I wonder what they could be hiding.

>>508089144 (OP)
As long as they buy Embraer C390s too, it's fine.
Good prices

>>508089144 (OP)
Why the fuck would anyone buy the Rafaile over Gripen?

>>508089144 (OP)
>Secure our Europe
From who? The ones actually threatening are letting in freely by people like Maricon

>>508093843
phase it out and you will just get weaker and your enemies will buy it and destroy you instead. are you willing to send your soldiers into battle in cheap Russian and Chinese crap vs American designed and manufactured weapons of war? easy death sentence for them.

>>508095729
better weapons, Gripen deserves some love too tho

>>508089144 (OP)
This trash

>>508095729
It's single engine, it fails, you're ejecting.

>>508095729
The Gripen is a great aircraft, and in a vacuum it is better on paper for 99% of European nations(with its upgraded engine). However, the upgraded engine is the problem here because its American made and this entire push is about removing the American supply chain from European defense.

>>508089144 (OP)
as long as they don't have to fight chinese planes

Hurr durr me big expert stfu bong faggot

>>508089144 (OP)
Europeans should buy that eurotrash garbage. Who would not want to spent 2 times as much as an F-35 for less than half the capabilities.

>>508096086
Gripen is overrated. Rafale mogs Gripen in actual air combat exercises. Sweden’s supply chains aren’t as sophisticated as France’s even if we’re in the EU. Gripen is however great for limited regional air defense, I’d still like to see it in Ukraine.

>>508095417
they probably hacked the software wrote their own and it was a fucking disaster, sounds like a jeet thing to do.

>>508091399
>>508091805
Check out what the IAF are currently doing with the F35. Opinions may change

>>508089144 (OP)
Why when Gripen is the superior choice?

>>508089144 (OP)
3 European countries brought already. But since most european countries are US vassals (if not literally under US occupation), it kind of hard work.

>*mogs you*

>>508095729
Gripen got literally rapped by Rafale in every international competitions.
Your half swedish/US mutt plane stand no chance.

>>508089144 (OP)
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>>508091399
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>>508091649
Poos have humiliated the French arms industry

>>508089144 (OP)
I am not convinced after observing their poor performance against old Chinese jets.

>>508095729

>Why the fuck would anyone buy the Rafaile over Gripen?

Procurement of fighter aircraft is 95% politics and 5% performance.

>>508096086
This. America implied it's systems have kill switches.