Please explain to me - /pol/ (#508106094) [Archived: 959 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: ioJB3sPPIsrael
6/20/2025, 6:54:43 PM No.508106094
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How the US bombing Iran will lead to ww3?
I keep hearing this claim and I'm just confused, what would compel china or Russia to join this conflict? Russia has already proven itself to be a meme country with their inability to suppress Ukrainian air defences in their retarded invasion, they don't have anything they could contribute to Iran that would meaningfully impact the balance of forces, while chinas top priority is Taiwan, and given that china is a communist country that actively opposes all religion, committing aid to a theocracy seems like a pipe dream.

Am I missing something?
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Anonymous ID: dj+QQLUa
6/20/2025, 7:01:38 PM No.508106730
>>508106094 (OP)
>what would compel china or Russia to join this conflict?

Because Iran is Russia's proxy nation thats used to fight a modern Mujahedeen force against everyone. If Iran gets nuked or destroyed by the west, Russia wont be happy because its their lapdog country
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Anonymous ID: TeLLho6zUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:03:54 PM No.508106939
>>508106094 (OP)
> Am I missing something?

yes, no one wants to fight for jews, or spend money on you again
Anonymous ID: dj+QQLUa
6/20/2025, 7:04:10 PM No.508106956
Look at the soviet afghan war, its like that all over again except its Hamas and not the Mujahedeen.

China and Russia have invested millions and millions into Iran and Pakistan and these smaller arabic countries, it would mean a complete economic destruction for BRICS if Iran fell.
Aten !LYEuHuoDEMID: wihyoGRp
6/20/2025, 7:06:30 PM No.508107127
>>508106094 (OP)
I'm not an expert by any means but I think if you had an extended war with Iran, war would be in "season" and for example China could invade Taiwan, since it would sort of go under the radar. I'm an idiot though
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Anonymous ID: aF4KMOofUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:07:33 PM No.508107220
> US bombs Iran
> China, Russia, Pakistan support Iran
> Turkey uses opportunity to strike Israel
> US calls on support from European, Arab, Indian allies
> war is prolonged because goals are pipe dream
> China invades Taiwan by 2027 as stated and because of American bogged down in Middle East and probably Ukraine
> Asian allies are called on to defend Taiwan
> meanwhile America’s southern borders are under assault by Latrino invaders
> civil war breaks out in America and Europe
> the entire Northern hemisphere is now engulfed in war
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Anonymous ID: oVWNhawQSweden
6/20/2025, 7:07:36 PM No.508107223
>>508106094 (OP)
russia also had air dominance first week of the war, turns out it wasnt that easy to take out all the AA and now were at the part where no one uses air seriously.
ill give it two weeks until your planes come crashing down harder than in 9/11.
Aten !LYEuHuoDEMID: wihyoGRp
6/20/2025, 7:08:21 PM No.508107277
>>508107127
Oh. The callback function says it's because we would be spread thin
Anonymous ID: dbuThLYkIsrael
6/20/2025, 7:09:50 PM No.508107385
>>508107220
No. Iran being taken out will no directly lead to WW3. What will happen is that once Iran is removed, Israel and the Sunni world will be on a direct Collison course, Israel is already talking about how Turkey and Pakistan are next. Iran was just a distraction, the real shit starts soon.
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Anonymous ID: 4nKtx52RUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:11:07 PM No.508107534
>>508106094 (OP)
Just the fact that you're talking about and have already identified a theoretical axis means that it actually exists -- these nations share a common enemy and their unification behind that principle and willingness to wage war because of it would necessary compel a unified western reaction, WW3. It may not play out that way, but it very well could. >>508106730
Anonymous ID: RS1IM5FJUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:11:45 PM No.508107605
>>508106094 (OP)
Here’s a breakdown of key U.S. congressional actions directly concerning the creation of Israel or its recognition:
1. Lodge–Fish Resolution (Joint Resolution, 67th Congress, Sept211922)
This joint resolution endorsed the British Mandate and the 1917 Balfour Declaration supporting "a national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine
2. House Joint Resolution 322 (Sept211922)
Congress—by unanimous vote—formally endorsed the Balfour Declaration through a resolution signed by President Harding
congress.gov
3. 1948 Diplomatic Recognition (Implicit via Executive Order)
On May141948, President Truman recognized Israel minutes after its declaration. While not a formal congressional law, Congress later commemorated the event through resolutions.
4. H. Con. Res. 392 (109th Congress, May2006)
A concurrent resolution recognizing Israel’s 58th Independence Day, affirming U.S.–Israel ties .
5. H. Con. Res. 322 (110th Congress, April2008)
Celebrated the 60th anniversary of Israel’s founding, reaffirming friendship and cooperation .

ChatGPT, could you state what the 1st Amendment says?
Anonymous ID: dj+QQLUa
6/20/2025, 7:12:14 PM No.508107644
>>508107220

I think if anything happens in terms of Iran nuking Israel or vice versa, China will move in on Taiwan and after that Russia will move west and claim Europe again.
Anonymous ID: RbUkeuB7United States
6/20/2025, 7:12:15 PM No.508107645
>>508106094 (OP)
The US bombing Iran will not lead to WW3. If anything, it might prevent it. And there's no way China or Russia would get involved in any significance way. Russia, for example, does indeed benefit from the current Iranian government being in power. As that allows more of their oil to be sold to Europe, China, and India. Among others. A new administration that would be more friendly to the West would hurt Russia, as Europe and the rest of the world would have more access to more oil. To Russia's detriment. But Russia knows that if they do get involved in direct opposition to the US in any significant way, then they would expect a retaliation by the US. And it a cost benefit analysis, they end up losing. They wouldn't want all their gains in Ukraine to have been in vain.

As for China, China is strong country, but they're still not as significant in projecting global power and reach as the US is. Not anywhere close. China again, through a cost benefit analysis, akin to game theory, see that they have more to lose if they aided Iran in a way that would be challenging to the US. China is catching up in its ability to win a conflict in its region against the US. Without question. But not anywhere outside of it. So why would they spoil it? The fact is, the US still has the upper hand. And yes, it is fading, but nonetheless.
Anonymous ID: 33+N2NklCanada
6/20/2025, 7:12:21 PM No.508107664
China already is helping Iran

And they know if America commits that they can sell their weapons to the Iranians to test them out and reduce America's power. Especially their navy
Anonymous ID: p3VzQ144
6/20/2025, 7:12:34 PM No.508107678
>>508107385
You need all-out war in the region to annex the West Bank and Gaza.
Anonymous ID: aF4KMOofUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:12:37 PM No.508107682
>>508107385
> it won’t happen like it always happens because I say so
Thanks, Benjamin Netanyahu.
Anonymous ID: mbTr7MMJUnited Kingdom
6/20/2025, 7:13:04 PM No.508107711
>>508106094 (OP)
Together Russia and China become a super meme capable of at least causing enough war that Americans get sick of fighting

This will embolden them and the prophecy of our sage's that the messioch will come can be fulfilled.
Anonymous ID: iazuho12United States
6/20/2025, 7:13:24 PM No.508107743
>>508106094 (OP)
>How the US bombing Iran will lead to ww3?
Closing Strait of Hormuz will pressure the Global financial system immediately, and the #1 pretext for conflict is Citizens getting uppity when the Economy is the shitter. China is already supplying Iran with numerous reports of Planes going to Iran from China, I suspect these are drone equipment. Once this conflict evolves to boots on the ground then Russia and China will see this as an opportunity to bog us down in a proxy war. From proxy war it then goes Global.
Anonymous ID: qT1ubeloFinland
6/20/2025, 7:14:15 PM No.508107814
>>508106094 (OP)
if they use nukes thats definitely going to unlock a complex situation. why wouldn't the russians use nukes in ukraine then and anything else they might want or the chinese to take taiwan etc
Anonymous ID: RS1IM5FJUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:15:10 PM No.508107890
Direct laws/resolutions tied to Israel’s creation or recognition (1922–1948): 3
Lodge–Fish Resolution (1922)
H.J. Res. 322 (1922, Balfour endorsement)
Truman’s diplomatic recognition (executive, but later Congressional reaffirmation)
Anonymous ID: RbUkeuB7United States
6/20/2025, 7:16:15 PM No.508107979
>>508107220
> US bombs Iran
> China, Russia, Pakistan support Iran
Like chearleaders. They won't do anything else or at least anything of significance.
> Turkey uses opportunity to strike Israel
Turkey won't do shit. There's no ummah. Turkey would rather see Iran destroyed more than anything.
> US calls on support from European, Arab, Indian allies
Western Europe wouldn't miss the opportunity for alternative Russian oil.
> war is prolonged because goals are pipe dream
It being prolonged is a possibility. A pipe dream, not necessarily.
> China invades Taiwan by 2027 as stated and because of American bogged down in Middle East and probably Ukraine
That's a possibility.
> Asian allies are called on to defend Taiwan
As they should.
> meanwhile America’s southern borders are under assault by Latrino invaders
Federalize the whole guard and send them there.
> civil war breaks out in America and Europe
doubt.
> the entire Northern hemisphere is now engulfed in war
Unlikely.
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Anonymous ID: 4F8F766sUnited States
6/20/2025, 7:17:07 PM No.508108047
>>508106094 (OP)
Would Israel be willing to go into billions of dollars in national debt to pay for the US to bomb Mexico?
Anonymous ID: muKnt4NcGreece
6/20/2025, 7:20:42 PM No.508108319
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>>508106094 (OP)
there is, of course, the prophecy >.>
Anonymous ID: iazuho12United States
6/20/2025, 7:22:05 PM No.508108439
>>508107979
Global central banks cutting rates in unison despite ongoing inflation is an implicit admission of a deeper crisis, the global debt load has become unmanageable. Allowing inflation to persist is a strategic decision not a mistake because inflation quietly devalues debt, just as it erodes the value of currency. But the consequences are mounting. U.S. Treasuries, once the gold standard of global finance, are now being repriced by markets closer to BBB barely investment grade.

This isn’t just about bad fiscal policy; it signals a loss of faith in the very foundation of the post-Bretton Woods financial system. When the world begins rotating out of Treasuries and into physical gold, it's not seeking yield it's seeking trust. The last time we saw a shift of this scale was when the British pound lost its global reserve status as a result of WW2. That wasn’t just an economic shift; it was a geopolitical one.

History rhymes.
Anonymous ID: vTukyHhvSweden
6/20/2025, 7:23:28 PM No.508108571
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>>508107385
The real question is why must Iran be bombed? Because they will have nukes?
Im the neutral party here and I say that it's completely fair for Iran to have nukes if Israel gets to have nukes. Either you both get rid of them or you both have them. You choose..

Also, it's quite disturbing how you have this whole "just bomb them, there will be no consequences" mentality. That's exactly how the Obama administration reasoned when they bombed Libya, and look at the country today.

Trump was elected to cool the world down, not throw another country into the permanent gutter.
You started this war, this shit is on you.
Anonymous ID: Vmy7zB9aIreland
6/20/2025, 7:24:49 PM No.508108675
>>508106094 (OP)
China gets 20% of its oil from Iran.
That alone is reason enough to nuke pissrael tonight.
Anonymous ID: C2LR2CX0United States
6/20/2025, 7:30:04 PM No.508109111
>>508106094 (OP)
>Russia cant even beat Ukraine

Dude you don't understand.
Russia has already defeated Ukraine; theyre fighting NATO now.
Russia and China can and will fight the USA effectively in Iran because they are already fighting us effectively in Ukraine.
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Anonymous ID: iazuho12United States
6/20/2025, 7:45:41 PM No.508110407
>>508109111
Iran is a fortress, tunnels under mountains, missle installations throughout the Mountain ranges.
You have to go boots on ground, and it'll be a fucking nightmare.
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Anonymous ID: qT1ubeloFinland
6/20/2025, 7:47:54 PM No.508110614
>>508110407
its ok the usa has plenty of experience in that so they know what they're getting into
Anonymous ID: RbUkeuB7United States
6/20/2025, 7:49:40 PM No.508110758
>>508110407
No it won't. They're like Iraqis. They aren't nowhere near Taliban monks who'd live in caves for 20 years. And that a good thing the US can exploit. An educated class, a middle-class, and a wealthy class.