Humans are facultative carnivores. You get the vast majority of your nutrition from animal products. Even modern manmade plants in the store are nowhere near as nutritious as people think they are. Humans have been eating mainly meat for over a million years. Wild plants are fibrous and will starve you in a survival scenario, there is not a single example of a vegan pre-industrial tribe or human society.

Eating a clean human diet with lots of fatty meat reduces inflammation. It regulates hormones. It puts your body into a fat burning and muscle building mode very easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3SHgdHHmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70jskevQ7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schNUiAN1I4
https://www.mostly-fat.com/

watER to me, most sicknesses in society would disappear if people took the goatispill

Here’s actual published research for each of these anti-carnivore or anti-meat myths.

A few rules I set for myself when collecting these:

Human trials only. Nothing done using animals. Results in animal models, more often than not, can’t be replicated in human models.

No clear conflicts of interest. If a study received funding from the food industry, I immediately ignored it, no matter how well-designed or how much it supported carnivore.

No epidemiology. All these studies demonstrate cause and effect; we should leave association and correlation to vegans.

Results that have been replicated in other studies at least once. No one can say these results were just a one-off or an exception.

For these reasons, these studies are iron-clad. No weak science like plant-based believers rely on to convince themselves and others that salads are the holy grail of health. With that out of the way, let’s begin.

“There are no studies of people eating carnivore diets” A 1926 clinical trial published in the American journal of Medicine, where vilhjalmar steffenson, an arctic explorer, was monitored on an all-meat diet for 1 year after returning from his time spent with the Inuit with claims that he survived eating just meat with them. After 1 year of eating just meat the doctors noted no adverse effects https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/241588 10 published case studies of ketogenic and carnivore diets putting Chron’s and ulcerative colitis into remission with no observable adverse side effects even after 1 year https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1467475/full.

>>508132024 (OP)
>Norway
Man I thought you had better education there. How are you falling for this stuff?

>>508132024 (OP)
>(((-ism)))
ProTip: ANYTHING that ends in -ism is jewish.

>>508132391
“Red meat is inflammatory” Again, we have 10 case studies of meat heavy diets putting IBD into remission https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1467475/full This RCT found feeding people high animal protein diets significantly decreased inflammation, fasting insulin and fasting glucose, but high plant protein diets did not. Calories were matched and the same. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28181738/ This RCT found that replacing 200g of high-carb plant foods with 200g of lean red meat lowered inflammation. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17237312/#:~:text=Our%20results%20suggest%20that%20partial,elevate%20oxidative%20stress%20or%20inflammation.

>>508132452
“Red meat causes cancer” Dr David Klurfeld discusses the findings of the women’s health study, the largest nutritional RCT ever run, as well as another RCT feeding study, and that in both studies the intervention group eating a more plant-based diet had the exact same rates of breast and colorectal cancer as the control group that was eating more meat. https://youtu.be/to3GLvKCOZw?t=217&si=aadRUPRoa1zz-JWK

>>508132526
“The WHO classed red meat as a carcinogen” The WHO classed unprocessed red meat as a probable carcinogen, not a definite carcinogen, and did so using 14 observational studies, half of which showed no correlation whatsoever. Dr David Klurfeld talks here about the absolute paucity of scientific evidence that the WHO’s committee (which he was a part of) used to make that determination. https://youtu.be/to3GLvKCOZw?t=117&si=bPi6-JEqhmJHkVFT Dr Zoe Harcombe goes into more detail here. https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2015/10/world-health-organisation-meat-cancer/ Proteins in animal-based foods suppress gut tumours and cancer https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240918124955.htm This Mendelian randomisation study found that eating protein seemed to offer a protective effect against breast cancer, while higher sugar consumption had the opposite effect

>>508132617
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37299548/ A pilot study showing meat does not increase TMAO. Only seafood increased TMAO because many marine animals have the chemical preformed in their tissue.

>>508132693
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278691599000289#:~:text=Of%2046%20different%20foods%20investigated,meats%20had%20no%20measurable%20effects. Two case reports of keto decreasing glucose metabolism of the cancers in two female children, one of whom experienced a complete cessation of disease progression and was still alive 10 years later https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7790697/ A study showing vegetarians got colorectal cancer more frequently than omnivores. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19279082/ This systematic review comes to the conclusion that there’s no reliable evidence to suggest unprocessed red meat causes cancer, that the public should not be recommended to stop eating it or even minimise it, and that the WHO did not have sufficient evidence to classify meat as a carcinogen and the fact they did raises “issues of trust”. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-1621

>>508132737
“Red meat causes heart disease” LDL is no longer predictive of atherosclerosis if you correct for Lp(a), which is not changed by red meat consumption. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33222611/ Heart disease risk is halved if you have high LDL cholesterol but also high HDL and low triglycerides, typical of low-carb diets. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/647239 This review talks about how LDL-C does not cause atherosclerosis. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391 This 40 year RCT got men to eat fewer animal-based foods and more plant-based foods and heart attack, stroke, and mortality went up. The control group who could keep eating whatever they wanted to actually survived better

>>508132840
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30272088/ This meta-analysis of observational studies found that saturated fat wasn’t associated with CHD and mortality and CVD and stroke and type 2 diabetes https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26268692/ A review of a study that found saturated fat didn’t increase arterial plaque progression and instead carbs did https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16770946/ A case study of someone with type 1 diabetes on a ketogenic diet for 10 years who still had a healthy heart, healthy arteries, good heart rate variability, good blood pressure, normal endothelial function, good arterial flexibility, and overall average to below average markers for cardiovascular disease risk https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38912731/ Only oxidised LDL turns into plaque.

>>508132889
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC382933/ Dr Ken D Berry going through three studies showing seed oils replacing saturated fat improved cholesterol numbers but increased mortality and heart attack and stroke. At the end he talks about nutritional dogma that stops pro-saturated fat studies from being done. https://youtu.be/x1bajug7S5c?si=IOZ6gNo3V9X0zBjX Dr Shawn Baker explaining Dave Feldman’s study that found keto eaters with absurdly high LDL developed less plaque than omnivores with low LDL even after 5 years. https://youtu.be/0hYLVF7VY3k?si=Rl_gVe85p0InQ_Vv

>>508132981
“Meat gives you gout” Every RCT ever done testing low protein diets for gout has shown no benefit. https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(16)30961-5/fulltext This pilot study found that increasing protein consumption and reducing carbohydrates improved symptoms of gout in 100% of patients. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1753185/ This is a report describing how a ketogenic diet prevented gout flares in participants. https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(17)30169-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2211124717301699%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

>>508133052
“Meat raises blood pressure” In this RCT, keto blew DASH out of the water for reducing blood pressure. DASH participants reduced their blood pressure medication after 4 months by 8%. Low-carb participants reduced their medication by 40%. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37217318/ Feeding participants half a serving of red meat each day only improved their lipids and blood pressure. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27881394/ Moderate Consumption of Red Meat, Compared to Onions or Non-Onions Legume, Has No Adverse Effect on Cardio-Metabolic Factors in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes. In fact, it improved blood pressure more. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31207663/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11234288/