The Great Mythos of the 21st century - /pol/ (#508133125) [Archived: 965 hours ago]

Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 12:13:15 AM No.508133125
alexandria
alexandria
md5: b066c40bd46575005bd02a68e108897c๐Ÿ”
Greetings!

As the conflicting interests in this world grow increasingly complex and intertwined, the perspective of finding sustainable solutions seems irredeemably lost. Some of the environments in which discernment and judgment on key global policies are formed are known to me in some detail. I have decided to use my knowledge and anecdotal experience (as subjective and limited as it may be) to bear witness and to provide, as well as I can, a one-to-one map of these realities.
We can discuss anything and I will try to reply to as many sensible messages as I can.
For starters, I consider the conflict between the Israel and Iran entities to be the most crucial and important conflict in our lifetime. In order to truly understand the nature of this conflict, one must look at the epicentre of modern history, which is the late 1970s.
Between 1976 and 1979, a split occured between two major elitarian environments - this split was inherited in the political coordinate system of the 21st century.
Environment 1: "Technocratic Neo-Feudalism" (a continuation of the Rhodesian British ImperialTradition): Institutions: CFR, Trilateral Commission, UN, European Union, Pilgrim's Society, American Security Council, Le Cercle-Pinay, Bilderberg Group. Prominent proponents: David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Arthur Schlesinger, Alvin Toeffler, Zbigniew Brzezinski. It operates under the framework of a misanthropic realism as an"ideology of no ideology". It operates under a geostratecic zionism as a means of maintaining hegemony over the eurasian land bridge. Manifestos: "The Crisis of Democracy" (1975), "The Alchemy of Finance" (1987), "The End of History" (1992).
Environment 2: Identitarian Zionism
Ideology: Rejection of liberal enlightenment and "globalism". Straussian mysticism/symbolism and jewish eschatology.

(Part 1)
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Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 12:14:27 AM No.508133236
The first crack of major importance between these two environments became visible during the Yom Kippur-War in 1973, where not only many jews in the US considered the diplomatic response by US (represented by Kissinger) to have been too weak and leniant towards soviet interests. Those in the know understood the connection between the Oil Crisis and the establishment of the Petrodollar system that succeeded Americas decoupling from the gold standard. Much has been written about these rather complex causal relationships, so I will not go into too much detail.
What led (at a base level) many jews across the world which were known to be harbingers of liberal or even communist "cosmopolitanism" to a shift into the interventionist right, served for the more "active" and "elitarian" elements as a means to change the geostrategy of Israel into what became known as the "Yinon" plan: The destruction of the hostile Baathist regimes of Syria, Libya, Iraq and finally Iran and the ethno-religious fragmentation of the entire Middle East.
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 12:14:59 AM No.508133290
Iran at that time was (in its monarchical form) indeed less of a threat to Israel as it is now, and there are multiple reasons for that which I cannot go into at the moment. This scenario mustn't be confused with the "Clean Break Scenario" of the 1990s, in which Iran directly appeared as the upcoming final hindrance to regional domination by Israel.
For the first time during these years, the First Environment became branded or designated as hostile to the well-being of Israel and its long-term ambitions by this new forming Israeli right wing.
During the presidency of Ronald Reagan, much of this conflict was being swept under the rug because of a formal agreement, with both sides sneakily bringing their own influence to the table in a never-ending power struggle. The First Environment accepted the influence of the Second Environment because many jews that operated under it bore the same identitarian connection to Israel, others justified the growing influence of the Second Environment by the geopolitical use of Israel as an asset in the Middle East. The creation of Hesbollah and Hamas on the other hand has its sources in the Second Environment as a means towards the "ethno-religious" fragmentation as laid out in the Yinon strategy. After George H. Bush, who had served as kind of a mediator between these two environments, was not reelected in 1992 and many agreements and concessions were made under Clinton to the palestinian cause (the promulgation of Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin as the "peacemakers" was one of those scenarios) the response was a direct breakthrough and infiltration of the US in 2001.
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 12:15:36 AM No.508133345
In 2001, through George W. Bush, the Second Environment, or even its most consequential, extremist part, had, for the first time ever, direct control over all US american resources and used them in its global "War On Terror" against the enemies of (Greater) Israel. On an ideological/meta-political level, the idea of universal liberalism first had to articulate itself in a radical defense (instead of an offense, as it was historically used to) as an answer to pre-modern realities such as islamic terrorism. This led to the precarious situation (which was explained in detail by Peter Thiel in his essay "The Straussian Moment") that the enlightened West had to defend itself via totalitarian pre-modern means which leads to an inward contradiction that cannot be resolved and must therefore remain a secret.
The First Environment, which had used universal liberalism as a means to reproduce itself within the intellectual, political and scientific elite, could not answer the threat that this new environment posed in an effective manner; the only medium-effective response it could produce was the controlled demolition of the economy in 2008 and the "Coronavirus" situation in 2020 and its chief ideological expression in the "Great Reset" or "Fourth Industrial Revolution" paradigm that became common knowledge after 2020.
In the meantime, the "Arab Spring" created a shift in the Middle East, where only Syria and Iran remained as serious (state-actor) enemies to Israels regional hegemony. On the other hand, the First Environment, which always gave Eurasian affairs precedence over Israeli affairs, regarded the Syrian question as inextricably linked to the Ukrainian question, as they hoped that the russian intervention in Syria would weaken their aggressive response to the attempted US/CIA takeover of Ukraine in 2013.
Thus, making the conflict bilateral (with Syria and Ukraine as the nodes of russian and US collision) served as a way to strategically weaken Russia.
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 12:16:55 AM No.508133473
This very quick rundown served to show the basic structure of this existing conflict which sits very deep in the elite.
It is, one could say, a direct continuation of the Zionist/Bolshevist dialectic of the early 20th century, where many cosmopolitan/communist jews stood in opposition to the Zionist idea out of fear of estrangement from gentile societies and possible persecution.
I want to move on, however, to say a few words about the developments since 2020 in the light of what I have just outlined.
The scenario of the "Coronavirus" served symbolically as the "poisoned crown" of globalism. What this means is that the same way that globalism once "spread" like a virus via the supply chains, it is now being "revoked" in the same manner; in an esoteric code, globalism is being "crowned" with a poisoned crown.
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Anonymous ID: fd3YUh1+United States
6/21/2025, 12:33:14 AM No.508134890
I am reading all of this shit.
Anonymous ID: i4ITvhJkUnited States
6/21/2025, 12:35:18 AM No.508135084
>>508133125 (OP)
nigger give me your thesis so i know where this is going, and i also know for certain you aren't smoking glass right now
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6/21/2025, 12:39:34 AM No.508135465
>>508133473

>globalism is being "crowned" with a poisoned crown

Oh no, it hurt itself in confusion! :O
Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 12:42:52 AM No.508135743
>>508133473
Bump for the effort post, and I have a question. By what mechanism and means did the zionist faction gain such obvious and observable dominance over the "technocratic" faction, to the point where their existence is basically impossible to observe? Furthermore how can conflict between these factions be recognized or even conceived in a fashion that gives credence to the latter's (technocratic) existence? I'm not convinced.
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Anonymous ID: 7ngtHYC/Canada
6/21/2025, 12:49:28 AM No.508136309
Best circuits are self organized and organic, globalist cabal Idiots force them and will and have destroyed another civilization.

We had very organized silent elegant circuits forming and connecting the complexity and simplifying it, they were efficient and there and because of Idiots who can't see shit except for what they want they are being systematically destroyed!

If they think they can berry aka "preserve" anything at all they are wrong, they will be dragged into dark fires as all those before them. Those who find glimpses of this and older Civilization will larp as creators and keepers and preservers, as per usual, some new idiots.
System is smart, balanced and does not tolerate idiots for long, no matter where they hide, in shadow or elsewhere!
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6/21/2025, 12:56:05 AM No.508136856
Mr_President...
Mr_President...
md5: b744c5763173c1363acf8282f926a17c๐Ÿ”
>>508135743

Kompromat ofc! And some delusions sprinkled on top.
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Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 12:56:38 AM No.508136908
>makes thread after a pipe of crack
>Offers to answers questions about his schizo babble
>Leaves without saying anything else.
Giga based
Anonymous ID: g2kVHN8tUnited States
6/21/2025, 12:57:26 AM No.508136967
https://x.com/ErectusRex/status/1908911569804943827
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 1:02:23 AM No.508137419
>>508135743
As of 2019, it had become clear to any sober-minded observer that there was some sort of conflict on the horizon involving Russia, China and Iran in a potential powerful alliance against the West.
The Coronavirus paradigm, in its function as an "end of globalism", along with its many other benefits for the ruling elite which are well known, was the last try, on the account of the First Environment, to bring this development to a halt or, in case this wasn't possible, to give the Western Powers as much time as possible to re-arrange themselves to face this new conflict.
The Second Environment, on the other hand, welcomed this new conflict scenario, as it saw the potential to re-militarize the West in order to manipulate it into armed conflict in the Middle East. Also, Greater Israel, sitting directly in the intersection of the New Silk Road and the IMEEC(India Middle East Economic Corridor), could become a powerful and prosperous pivot point in a multipolar world. Thus, the Second Environment absolutely has nothing against the US losing its power to maintain "technocratic globalism", as long as the US can maintain Israel, which will not be for long.
As it turned out, thus, in 2021, the Great Reset paradigm of the First Environment was put to rest via an agreement which was made in the wake of the US-american failure in Afghanistan and the anticipated Russian attacks on Ukraine and Kazakhstan. The alternative conservative "Great Renewal" would be an entirely different route the West would take, which entails an end to "wokeness" and many of the universalist globalist ideas and a "re-masculinization" or "re-militarization" of culture and public life. (part 1)
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Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:03:51 AM No.508137546
>>508136856
The babble indicates a level of competition and competence. Surely such things would be met by equal force, assassination, threats, a simple knowledge of enemy tactics etc. eagerly awaiting his skitzo reply, to be fair.
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6/21/2025, 1:08:53 AM No.508137946
>>508137546

It should, usually. Such operations are usually quite vulnerable as they do not rely on loyalty. A web of weak links. To persist the problem must truly be structural. But bloated bureaucracies can hide such issues for a considerable time. Not indefinitely but still ...
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Anonymous ID: G9AKN6D4United States
6/21/2025, 1:11:23 AM No.508138141
>>508133125 (OP)
You should summarize your message in as little words as possible at the top of your text.
Anonymous ID: lvcZJEgpUnited States
6/21/2025, 1:19:22 AM No.508138790
>>508137419
This was a boring and poorly written write up. I guess itโ€™s youโ€™re esl. But props for writing so much. Maybe someone will find it useful.
Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:19:29 AM No.508138803
>>508137946
I suppose that's a fair observation when you consider the total and absolute forgoing of seemingly obvious levels of human decency towards their electorate you'd expect from "elected officials" in the west. I'm probably just being naive, or at least judging by my own standards, the willingness of people to maim and murder without so much as thought if all consequences are guaranteed to be rebuked.
>The German schizo has turned me into a philosopher all of a sudden.
Kek.
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Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:19:59 AM No.508138854
>>508137419
Still waiting for part 2, broski.
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 1:22:10 AM No.508139036
>>508137419
>Furthermore how can conflict between these factions be recognized or even conceived in a fashion that gives credence to the latter's (technocratic) existence?

I can say personally, before October 2023 when Hamas attacked Israel, I did not know or suspect that those two factions exist and thought they were one and the same.
However, what you see today: the decoupling of the US from NATO, J.D. Vance talking about a "multipolar world", the dismantling of Wokeness and being critical of "globalist NGOs" financed by George Soros - all of this while simultaneously maintaining an extreme zionist interventionist position and being funded by Peter Thiel, Alex Karp and all of these jewish oligarchs and being advised by people like David Birnbaum who also advised Benjamin Netanyahu and Viktor Orban, of all people. Netanyahu has made it clear in his speeches a long time ago that he stands against "globalist liberal NGOs" which he perceives to be a threat to Israel because of their support for pro-palestine leftist groups. The heads of multiple Ivy League Universities in the US - which are the absolute crucible of Wokeness - were involved in scandals concerning antisemitism (because they criticized "Israel") which got so much out of hand that they had to resign under pressure and they were replaced by neocon jews. This has been of course only circumstantial evidence so far, but I can already ask the question: Is it more likely that this is all a complicated dialectical plot and the elite behind it is actually the same, OR that there are indeed two factions at conflict with each other?
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Anonymous ID: hGEsrFYyUnited States
6/21/2025, 1:28:22 AM No.508139571
Clausewitz
Clausewitz
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>>508133125 (OP)
Schwerpunkt! Is it you?
Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:31:17 AM No.508139828
>>508139036
I finally understand. You're mistaking controlled opposition for actual effective discourse, broski. Look up "wahhabism", see how prolific it is in the west, and see who funds the state that funds it's prolification specifically in the western world (especially the UK). I appreciate that you've realized this and started to make connections because it's a very obscure connection to make, but, alas, here we are, what you've observed is the struggle against Cerberus (different heads of the same snake, etc) and you're drawing your own conclusion which is admirable, but ultimately misguided given the realties of the our situation. A big clue being Saudi Arabia dedicating military assets to averting Iranian ordinance. See
>>508138803
For my own confusion at how little some care for decent and basic human . morality.
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Anonymous ID: gBlQKZQ1United Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:32:21 AM No.508139912
>>508139828
>Given the realities of our situation*
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6/21/2025, 1:38:16 AM No.508140358
>>508138803

>human decency


Ok I promise I will not go all philosophical on this now. Short version ... the stupid will fail to perceive basic "self" interest. The biologist would likely consider it a permissive trap.
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Anonymous ID: VfuzJc0dUnited Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:41:12 AM No.508140602
>>508140358
I admitted as much in my post. I tend to judge by own standards, the standard by which presumably led Europeans to such great understanding, but also the naivety that has us charging full steam into our own extinction.
Anonymous ID: WGH8WPCdUnited Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:42:53 AM No.508140747
>>508133125 (OP)
Is this a real image?
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Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 1:50:35 AM No.508141397
>>508139828
I disagree on that. I think the idea that a many headed snake is pulling all strings dialectically is far more obscure than the idea that there are legitimately different interest groups in all levels of society that engage in a real conflict.
The many headed snake exists on a different plane, the spiritual plane, in which it is really the Fallen Angel that ultimately pulls the strings. On the sphere of human politics, however, there is real conflict, not just fake conflict.
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Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 1:54:31 AM No.508141772
>>508139828
And, as far as the Wahhabis are concerned, they are a dimension of their own to some extent, but heavily financed first by British Intelligence and later US intelligence - a condition that some US Zionists describe as "leftist globalist alliance with Islam".
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Anonymous ID: VfuzJc0dUnited Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:54:33 AM No.508141776
>>508141397
The spiritual and physical are far more connected than you think. One must give birth to the other, after all, whichever way that conduit flows is still up for debate.
Anonymous ID: LLLYVt4CUnited States
6/21/2025, 1:55:28 AM No.508141849
>>508140747
hell no it's stockholm wall of knowledge but it's a just some digital project
Anonymous ID: VfuzJc0dUnited Kingdom
6/21/2025, 1:58:36 AM No.508142135
>>508141772
And who controls "western" (for lack of a better pluralization) intelligence agencies? Why did US intelligence act so laissez-faire in the face of multiple warnings of a supposed "zionist" attack on 9/11 if they were dedicated to the their technocratic faction? If the answer is infiltration then we return to my first post.
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Anonymous ID: exyFQvKNUnited States
6/21/2025, 2:06:16 AM No.508142784
>>508133125 (OP)
I wish that picture was real..
Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 2:26:13 AM No.508144492
>>508142135
I don't see why infiltration would make the distinction between two factions less plausible. After all, the ideas and institutions involved can be traced throughout history. Yes, perhaps we would need to return to your first question, then.
If you are interested in a huge database, I would suggest looking at Joel van der Reijdens website: "Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics". He has gathered tons of material on globalist institutions throughout history, including a Superclass Index" of over 1400 NGOs, including their most prominent members.
You will find there a lot more data that aligns with my observations that I could possibly give you myself, as the guy involved has autistically scrambled all of this information for at least 20 years.

Good night and God bless!
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Philo ID: uoGC3jCOGermany
6/21/2025, 2:28:47 AM No.508144699
>>508142135
>>508144492
https://isgp-studies.com/about
Anonymous ID: WlPZWICvCanada
6/21/2025, 2:45:26 AM No.508145965
>>508133125 (OP)
>CFR
CFR 40 part 136 describes how to measure fecal coliforms in drinking water. Why there should be any has implications beyond drinking water. It's no coincidence the council on foreign relations takes the same acronym.