>25
>fatigue, endless
>tried going to gym for 3 months
>did not cure the fatigue
>no meaning
>I live with family, I don't love my family, I don't love my girlfriend, my life is... LE ARTIFICIAL
>have to go (((college))) soon so I can stop being poor wageslave
>problem is: I'm retarded
>can't focus on something unless I'm obsessed it
>if I'm reading something, I'll be reading it, then inside my brain I will often think about something else and just staring at the page
What the fuck? Welp, here we are.
In order to function in this current society you have to be loaded up on meds. You have to be loaded up on meds to deal with niggers and taxes and society and school.
Thinking about going to the doctor and getting Lamotrigine (for depression and JME) and Adderall (so I can lock in).
I don't care anymore.
Is it worth it?
I also don't carry if I can't get boners anymore. I've coomed enough.

>>508140469 (OP)
weakling

>>508140469 (OP)
Please don't. They ruined my life and mind. When I was 19 I was sick and they put me on an overdose of sertraline, I stopped caring about anything and my dick didn't work. I'm now 31 and I've never held a job, still can't feel music, haven't been interested in women in a long time, and so on.

Meds don’t work I tried them. The only thing that helps is 8 hours a day of manual labor like construction or landscaping.

>>508140469 (OP)
Oh look, another demoralization thread.

Very cool.

>>508140469 (OP)

No
The world offers you comfort, but you were not made for comfort
You were made for greatness

>>508140469 (OP)
>gf
Wow, poor you. You get to have sex. How horrible

>>508140469 (OP)
All the meds do is get you addicted to meds.
You just need to be mad and not give a fuck anymore, life cruises by after that.

>>508141101
At this point, I rather be loaded up on adderall, complete college and make 80k a year, than be able to feel music.
>>508141229
I'm not mexican
>>508141406
It's the truth bitch

>>508141419
The world is dark these days and without purpose.
Demons run amok and literally drain the life out of us.
Yet there is also light.
There is a place for you and a path you can make for yourself.
You can take that path for yourself.
It is your decision.
You know where to go, they are always open.
Talk to a Father and tell them Luce sent you.
They will give you guidance.

>>508141786
What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?

>>508141786
Anons are just trying to help you fucking dick. Go KYS

>>508141871
Unironically the happiest I ever was when I was the most spiritual

>>508140469 (OP)
>>fatigue, endless
Magnesium deficiency
Vitamin D3 deficiency
Zinc deficiency
Copper deficiency
Did you know 80-90% of western people have these deficiencies?

>>problem is: I'm retarded
>>can't focus on something unless I'm obsessed it
Magnesium deficiency
Vitamin D3 deficiency
Zinc deficiency


Stop eating bread, grains, wheat and other goyslop
Start eating 1 ingredient max, not processed food
Supplement the deficiencies I told you

>>508141786
Go full keto diet for 1 week, just do 10 eggs a day (hard boiled because you're a lazy fucker)
Then add pineapple slices (from a can because you're a lazy fucker)
Then add 2 kiwis a day (buy that simple kiwi slicer since you're lazy)

it will literally fix you
Just stay away from coca cola, coffee, bread and fruit loops and hotpockets or whatever
And go on a walk every week

>>508141503
I was made for greatness but my entire life I was always drawing in class slacking off, always telling teachers to fuck off. I've absolutely destroyed my body and brain and soul.
I used to have energy when I was younger, now I have no energy.
Sometimes I don't even have the energy to get up and play League
>inb4 League is causing your depression
Was depressed before league.
>>508141600
It's an artificial one (Long distance gf). I get nudes at the moment.
>>508141765
>You just need to be mad and not give a fuck anymore
Already tried, nothing happened. >>508142041
I was thinking about doing the whole vitamin thing going all natural but then I realized they don't do anything.
Source: took vitamin D and felt no difference

>>508140469 (OP)
That is normal, if you take Adderall it will quickly become your new normal and you won't be able to do anything at all without it. Get a physical job, I couldn't stand a desk job either. I'm an electrician, it sucks but less than doing paperwork especially for women

>>508141786
Manual labor is traditionally white men’s business. We built the nation with it. Mexicans just stole it in the last 50 years.

>>508142306
you can always turn stuff around
maybe you cant fix everything
>I used to have energy when I was younger, now I have no energy.
Unironically check your t levels
stop junk food too
that shit is poison
>Was depressed before league.
It might not have caused your depression but its certainly not helping
>>508142306
>It's an artificial one (Long distance gf)
Maybe meet up?

>>508141101
Try Wellbutrin. If anything it'll increase your sex drive.

>>508140469 (OP)
Take meds.
Meme diets and exercise is a waste of time that never works (unless you already are a healthy individual and in that case you wouldn't be asking this).

>>508142041
>>508142256
I (>>508141101) already supplement everything listed but copper but I do think maybe my diet is at fault. I eat a lot of processed slop and struggle with water intake.

How do you prep the eggs/pineapple/kiwis? Is a single meal you repeat eat or?

>>508140469 (OP)
This is when I joined the army but that was back in '16, I wouldn't do it now, chance of doing for Israel pretty high.

>>508142306
>Source: took vitamin D and felt no difference
You took it once?
Try taking it for a week
Try adding omega 3 and magnesium
Magnesium is highly linked to feeling tired and without energy

If you want REAL ENERGY, right now, then you go and drink a cup of water with a teaspoon of baking soda, that will rejuvinate you immediately

SSRIs are fucking retarded and will not solve your problems.

>>508142306
Vitamins and minerals are essential friend, and they take a long time to reach full saturation. You need to supplement for 4-12 weeks for most things.

>>508141786
>It's the truth

You're not fooling anyone, kike. You're incapable of telling the truth.

>>508142965
>struggle with water intake.
water leeches minerals and doesn't hydrate you (you pee almost imediately after drinking it)
Water is horrible for you, drink milk or eat fruits, don't drink water ever

tap the bottom of egg lightly until you hear crack, put 6 in water, put it to boil and wait 6 minutes
Pineapple slices from can
kiwis with a kiwi slicer
15 minute meal, all nutrients covered, all minerals and vitamins (eggs are nutrient rich, except vitamin C and fiber)
the better the eggs the better the nutrients (organic, pasture raised, not corn or wheat feed)

I eat it every now and then when I am lazy
I fast (don't eat a thing) every saturday until sunday lunch
Exercise 2 times a week on local playground (motivate moms and kids, anger dads)

>>508143410
>tap the bottom of egg lightly until you hear crack
with a spoon

>>508141101
>I stopped caring about anything and my dick didn't work
honestly fuck it all, I'd rather be a sertraline vegetable than be anxious and tired. almost a yeah on that shit, feels good man

>>508143410
Thanks anon

>>508142387
I want a artificially important desk job where i dont do shit and where I can make 80k a year and have 3 days off per week. So I have more free time where I can get drunk and play League. Or I can focus on my true passion (game design)
>>508142722
My t is fine. I'm a 6'4 white man and I jerk off to my big boob gf once every 1-2 days and have thick pubes and frequently want to cheat and just get other women pregnant instead. I often think about raping a Latina illegal janny at my work.
>le junk food
I don't even junk food that much. Unless you consider chipotle junk food. I love burritos.
>meet up
Plan to in about a month.
>>508142976
Even if I wanted to join I don't think they'd let me in since I have JME (form of epilepsy). 99% controlled with meds so far but yeah im not dying for pissrael.
>>508143014
>If you want REAL ENERGY, right now, then you go and drink a cup of water with a teaspoon of baking soda, that will rejuvinate you immediately
I don't have the energy to do that. I don't even want to get up and make food, or go out. I usually just wait until I'm extremely hungry starving tier to eat, then eat one big meal per day.
>>508143271
Thats too long.
Riddle me this, why didn't I need these snake oils when I was a kid but now I do apparently

>>508143623
>why didn't I need these snake oils when I was a kid
You did

>>508142976
Who do you think you joined for 9 years ago?

>>508140469 (OP)
Try islam, fasting especially.

>>508140469 (OP)
>lives with family but doesn't care about them
You're already a fucking NPC zombie. Taking meds won't change that.

>>508143623
The computer is frying your brain get at least one outdoor hobby especially one focusing your eyes on distant objects such as disc golf or hunting

>>508140469 (OP)
Christ is king and will save you from kike deception all Jewish medicine is forbidden for Christians your mental illness is from terrible food and medicine to make you docile and turn you away from truth and from God by actual demonic vampires

>>508143609
I cured my knee ACL tear with Dr Joel Wallachs arthritis cure (home made bone gelatine and huge vitamin C) and removing collagen production disruptors (smoking, coffee, lack of sleep)

Do you have any illness I could help you with? I am really good and can literally pinpoint miconutrient deficiency in people in minutes


>>508143623
>I don't have the energy to do that.
Don't think about it, just do it

>>508143742
Myself? Yeah it was always Israel's army but nothing was happening then. Now I've got 2 degrees, disability, free healthcare.

OP IS AN ATTENTION WHORE KIKE DRUG PUSHER HE SPAMS HERE AND ON /BIZ/ AND TRIES TO GET PEOPLE TO DO METH OR OVERDOSE HE'S JEWISH AS FUCKING SHITTTTTTT

>>508143923
ALSO YOUR MOTHER WILL DIE IN HER SLEEP IF YOU POST ITT

>>508140469 (OP)
You'll have to stay on them forever. The problem is in your mind and when you stop taking the pills it will still be there because you didn't fix it.

>>508140469 (OP)
Haha mutt. The moment you bought in the fact that you were superior than negroes you fucked up hard. You expected to be spoonfeed in your blue color jobs and a higher salary. But guess what, there is another species closer to humans but not really equal called negroes. They will do the job for less money appreciate 8$/hr. So what does the jew do??? hmhmhmh import them and then create proxy wars for you to die in. But all hope is not lost so don't give up and turn into npc medsrobot. Buy land and get a trad wife and some kids. Kids will give you a responsibility which means you'll get more time interacting with them than seething on pol. This will give your dick time to heal and eventually your trad wife will appreciate you chud-ness. But since you're already redpilled on negros, you might as well as ignore this goy advice and deploy. 40k quick + you'll rape some iranians. The only problem is an ied up you ass

>>508140469 (OP)
>>can't focus on something unless I'm obsessed it
OK? Study something you are obsessed with

>>508140469 (OP)
>AHHHH I HAVE FAMILY AND A GIRLFRIEND BUT I DONT LOVE THEM AND I HAVE NO PURPOSE. IM GONNA LOAD UP ON DRUGS!!!!
ok bro, my advice, get over yourself you dumb faggot. stop taking the good things you have for granted and take a step back from the ledge of permanent apathy.

>>508143623
Maybe the issue is motivation
How is your spiritual life?
>I love burritos.
Same :)
>Plan to in about a month.
good, maybe that might change your mood

>>508143589
Sertraline isn't terrible at low doses IMO. My wife used to not be able to deal with anxiety. Therapy didn't help. She's taken 25 mg daily for years and it just evens out her mood and she hasn't had a panic attack in years. Yeah, it doesn't just blunt the bad stuff, it also blunts fun stuff, so obviously don't go for a high dose

>>508140469 (OP)
Your soul doesn't belong to you as it was paid in full by Jesus Christ.

>>508141101
>still can't feel music
I've never felt music, but then again I'm not a fag.

>>508144277
drugs usually leech micronutrients from the body
if you drink coffee you need more magnesium than a regular person because coffee leeches the magnesium from the body
same goes with drugs like sertraline, ask chatgpt what minerals and vitamins does the drug make the body lose

>>508141956
This is true for me too, now money is always on my mind I feel dead

>>508143922
Yeah you did all right but really you joined up with the jews in agreement to sell out your fellow taxpayer

>>508140469 (OP)
As long as you understand that antidepressants are temporary and actually change your lifestyle (outdoors, gym, diet, repeat) then go for it. Talk to your psychiatrist about you having a hard time focusing. Sometimes it's just ADHD masking as depression, if you believe such things.

>>508140469 (OP)
>fatigue
sleep apnea. wear a travel pillow with neck support and sleep on your back. It will keep your airway open during sleep.

>>508144609
ADHD, depression and autism can have lowered symptoms up to 80% by supplementing high doses of magnesium, omega 3, vitamin D3, zinc and copper

>>508140469 (OP)
take the red pill (estrogen)

>>508140469 (OP)
you have an attention problem, try more stimulants! have fun!

>>508143923
>>508143991
I'm not a drug pusher you schizo faggot. I don't think anyone should take them, I just give up and have been tired for years so i think im gonna throw in the towel and just take them.
>>508144043
Can't I just stop taking them once I'm done with (((college))) and make 70k a year since money = happiness in most cases
>>508144059
I'm not reading all of that Muhammad
>>508144105
I'm not obsessed with anything anymore, and when I get an obsession, it's often short lived. And I only get these obsessions because I'm so bored in life

>>508144565
Money is not what concerns me but I could be more spiritual

>>508144200
My family is fucking retarded that's the problem. My step dad is a veteran with back pain and smokes pot all day, my mom is a narcissistic control freak loaded up on meds, but she makes 90k a year so I have to behave and not get kicked out. My brother and I don't even interact. I have a family but there are absolutely no connections. I call my mom my mom but she doesn't even feel like my mom.
It feels like I got plopped down on this earth at 5 years old, I come from nowhere, I don't belong anywhere. There are no ties to anything. I'm not adopted I did a gay test, but I certainly feel adopted.
>>508144218
I don't know, I'm agnostic. Whatever happens, happens. All I know is fuck jews, ethnic nationalism is the only solution or something.
>>508144309
Christianity is a middle eastern religion. I am white. I'm not involved

>>508144609
>>508144739
adhd and autism are genetic conditions and depresssion is very often caused by them, you can't fix those with diet you fucktards

>>508143410
>water leeches minerals
>litterly contains minerals
>magnesium
>calcium
>natrium
>clorid
>shit load of trace minerals depending were you live and where the water comes from.

>>508145288
Look, I am a Christian and I urge you to explore it
I know you think it's middle eastern but perhaps you misunderstood
Try to approach it with an open mind
I believe that there is no chemical solution to a spiritual problem, perhaps you have a spiritual problem.
This is my last message to you, I have to go play hoi4
Christ be with you, may God bless you
Goodbye :)

>>508140469 (OP)
>fatigue
>pill popper
Iron deficiency. Check your residence for blood sucker proliferation.
Also, stop treating insufficient nutrition with meds.

>>508144739
imo it's mainly about what they stop eating, such as ultraprocessed foods fried in inflammatory oils

>>508145517
>Look, I am a Christian and I urge you to explore it

Fuck you. Japan will win this fight.

stop gooning, it'll fix everything

>>508145683
Japan should be Christian
it is soulless now
look at their birth rate
their suicide
their sexual degeneration
wise up

>>508140469 (OP)
>and Adderall (so I can lock in).
adderall is not an actual performance enhancer. but anyway, yeah youre basically a nigger and should take all the drugs they prescribe. they'll make you a better person and all the riches you desire, definitely. no downsides really.

>>508141871
Yeah Luci(fer) is bringing the light and offering us salvation from the hell he created? I guess we're at that step now.

>>508144621
I was actually thinking its sleep apnea but it's unlikely. I'm going to see if I can do a test for it, but in reality my sleep quality is probably poor because
>going to sleep at 6am
>drinking
>looking at screen before sleep
>when getting ready for sleep, have to have white noise like my fan and youtube video on in distance so I don't lose my mind
>>508145517
Based hoi4 player. I haven't played that in ages. But trust me, I was born as a j*hova witness (branch of Christianity), and from the start, even as a kid, I was never interested in it, got kicked out, and I dove back into it later when I was older, general Christianity, and the only thing I found out was:
How can people unironically believe this shit
>>508145958
I am not a nigger
>>508145595
I don't think a few supplements are going to cure this level of fatigue and life hatred

>>508145226
>I'm not obsessed with anything anymore, and when I get an obsession, it's often short lived. And I only get these obsessions because I'm so bored in life
You gotta look at what your obsessions are and what thy might have in common. You are certainly alienated and depressed, but one of the symptoms you might not have taken into account is a kind of time blindness toward the future. I can certainly relate as I was also having huge problems at age 25, but then i found some things a few years later that have sustained my interst for decades (t. oldfag obviously)
You are not gonna cure your depression, and meds will only give you short term benefits plus sides. You have to accept that you're prone to depression and learn to manage it. Go back to the gym (or better lift at home), not because it's going to lift the blues away but because it's a healthy habit you should do 5-6 days a week much like brushing your teeth. Be nice to your girlfriend even this requires effort and even if you have to let play with her makeup on your face. That's how women express affection, by giving you their wholehearted attention. Review your previous obsessions and childhood enthusiasms.

>>508145901
>it is soulless now

see pic related. they're actively fighting for what's important ot them---Desire. it's why you see so many doujin and hentai on the internet. They know what's good -- and it's not Christianity.

They are literally Japanese Patriots. There's nothing more soulful than NIPPON ICHI BANZAI

>>508145958
Worse it's Breakroom/Lebanon he's pretending to be two people he's a methamphetamine junkie who wants to badfish and he's also begging for money here and on /biz/ as we speak.
Just pretended to get his wallet hacked asking for 0.5 btc lol
Fuck sake he's also got about 19 threads up currently including two methamphetamine threads with this one, you can tell it's him because he mass replies the same way every single thread.
Perfect website for him because mods are too stupid to realize what he's doing.

>>508140469 (OP)
ADHD fellow here too, im taking Elvanse, another amphetamine based med.

You must understand that there's different ways of Attenttion Disorders to express themselves + they usually come along with learning disabilities. So you are not dumb, its the "channels" you are getting the information from thats malfunctioning
Recently there has been some model shifting in attention disorders; in fact Hyperactivity is a symptom always present but in different areas.
The descprition for "hyperactivity" is more like "not wired correctly through executive functions"; basically this means that what your "animal" brain wants/needs impacts directly on your emotional system, without a stop on the "rational" brain.

>On physical dimention you need to be constantly moving to be able to focus and not get frustrated.
>On emotional dimention you need emotional investment
>On mental dimention you need mental challenges and puzzling themes
>On social dimention you need intense or risky interactions, something that drives you adventure

>So, you need at least one or more of these to tickle your brain, or as you said, "obsessed"

Now, you have an internal conflict , your logical you wants to behave and "what's expected to be or be seen as" but your emotional response has already been activated; you feel you cant fulfill your real "wants", you get depressed or anxious and you deal with it how you can; you start to automedicate yourself.

>Alcohol/drugs abuse
>Caffeine/nicotine cycles
>Risk behaviours
>Or even you start to don't give a fuck and just behave as you please or totally inhibit yourself, driving you to isolation and develop antisocial personality.

Since all the (very narrowed down) needs descripted above, it also has been theorized that ADD/ADHD is the brain mutation for foragers and fighters. They were the "protectors" of the group; which also explains why the shitty sleep schedules and insomnia.

>cont.

>>508146214
>How can people unironically believe this shit
i've always thought what atheists believe is sillier than talking snakes and donkeys.
without a creator, the answer to "what's the purpose of existence" is necessarily "there is none" and that answer's just deeply counterintuitive, rationally implausible.

>>508145378
Autism and adhd arent genetic (at least most of the diagnosed ones)
“Genetics” is a cop out by doctors who dont know better
Almost every autistic kid in my area is from a retarded guy who snorted speed/coke before fucking his wife
If autism and adhd were only purely genetic how come symptoms get lower on high dose magnesium? How do symptoms get lower on high dose omega 3? How do symptoms get lower on high dose vitamin D3?
If its purely genetic then symptoms shouldnt just be lowered with hyperbarric oxygen chamber therapy, with nano zeolite or other therapy methods….
You ignore these facts because you are cognitively dissonant to any information outside “experts” payed by pharma
Because maybe just maybe it will give you hope to help others and not be a doompilled faggot


>>508145478
Yes, water leeches minerals from the body
And you arent drinking mineral water
You are drinking chlorinated tap water that does huge amount of damage to your body
Or worse yet, bottled water with hundreds od thousand microplastic particulates leeching xenoestrogens in your body

>>508141101
The exact opposite happened for me. Mind you I was on lexapro.

>>508144584
You're not wrong but it's pretty minor compared to all the ways taxpayers are exploited

>>508146838
I'm not an athiest, I'm agnostic. God is probably real in theory actually. But do I think a guy split an ocean in half with a cane? I don't think so. And should we worship a dead Jewish carpenter?
I dont know about that.
I don't think Christianity was ever meant for people of European descent.
But who cares. I'm not having this meaningless discussion, neither of our minds will be changed.
>>508146811
I don't know if I have AHDH, ADD, Autism or what.
All I know is, I struggle to look at people in the eyes sometimes, but at the same time I can blend in and have normal conversation. I can only focus on something if I'm obsessed with it. I had a stuttering problem when I was a kid. Constant fatigue, takes hours for it to improve, upon hours, upon hours. Chronic bedrot. My room is a disgusting mess. I always forget to clean it. I don't have the energy to clean it. There is no point in cleaning it. When I'm reading something online, I'll be reading it, then my mind will travel somewhere else, and I'll just be staring at the page. Most of these people are spazzes that can't sit still, but I can and I'm so tired. I wish I was a spaz that couldn't sit still, they seem happy.
What's the diagnosis 'doc, do I have the tism or what?

>>508140469 (OP)
Get a blood test for B vitamins, vitamin D, and iron. Also, ask for as many things to test for from you’re general practitioner (or family doctor; whatever you yanks call them).

>>508146811
>cont.
In modern society, as you said, these roles are not executed as the caveman times; which mean these genetics role specialitations have not adapted with fast paced technological/social evolution.
Which, we come to the same conclusion, we are actually not fit for modern society.
Natural selection is now who can make money, not the one who can survive in a tribe.
All the needs you got from the tribe has been stripped, so now you have to organize yourself, have same schedule, a routine, a constant effort, handle money, take care of your social, mental and physical health, all with the burden of not being able to control your motivation switch.

And that's what the medication helps you with, but like >>508144043 said.
Also you will need new patterns and methodology for organization. Its not a magic pill.

The issue with the medication is that, once your brain is already done its 2 neuronal harvest, ur done for; chances of being able to get off of them are very low. I mean you can get off of them with some withdrawal, but in the long run you will notice the difference, and that's not addiction, its noticing the difference of a "normal functioning brain" and a "ADHD functioning brain".

Yes you are taking amphetamines, and yes there's a risk of developing an addiction; but if in the scientific community, they prefer to give amphetamines to balance all the problems that come along with ADHD, its for a reason.

Also, >>508146289 this is will help you a lot. I've found what motivated me to study and what really allowed me to stand up from the bed and go to work. But when I started on the work enviroment its when I really felt the limits of ADHD. Thats when I started taking the meds.

If you have Anxious-Depressive, amphetamines based are a strong nono. My sister takes Ritalin (not amphetamine based) + SSIR (I dont remember exactly which), but she also has been on sertralin (she also was on the edge of serotonergic overdose), so she swapped.

>cont.

>>508140469 (OP)
I have long term mental illness, multiple diagnosis and one of them is ADHD and I went back onto Addreall since around 4 or so years ago. It helps you concentrate, but it still does not give you that boost you need to become very productive if you already feel like shit bro.
So dont go in with high expectations of it because it has its positives (helping you concentrate) and negatives (becoming reliant/dependent on it).
Life will take your soul sober anyway. Most healthy and fit people hit some form of barrier whether it be physical, economical or the death of a loved one in their life, that makes them hit rock bottom and never feel the same again afterwards. Just expect life to be both good and bad, learn how to adapt and you will be fine.

>>508148471
>cont.
>>508147889
The way you describe yourself, you are very resemblant to my sister. She has ADD + Autism close to Spergers, but not there.
The reason behind not looking at people's eyes is what differentiates between ADHD and Autism. Is it because not looking at the eyes allows you to think better? Or because you don't think looking at the eyes is really needed? You don't understand why you need to look at the eyes but you force yourself which makes you anxious? So you avoid more looking at peoples eyes?

Also I would suggest you to take some tests to really get your profile to pinpoint better what meds you need, and what your emotional and daily-basis needs are, because right now you are neglecting them.
> If a person invented a hug machine, because she needed hugs, but couldn't get them from a person, is for a reason!

Just to clarify im against mass medicine culture, also I'm European, so idk how hard is in in the 'Sates; but after realising what dealing with this shit really is, im happy that just taking amphetamines makes my life easier, and ironically, calmer too.

>>508146980
Latest studies are all converging to the conclusion that it is genetic; it's more like a "genetic" activation. When there's certain amount of human growing, we start producing "specialised" breed; autism for repetitive and specific tasks (like making stone weapons and tools), adhd for foraging/fighting, psycho/sociopaths for mass control/management, (hot take since we are in pol/) homosexuality for breed control and leadership

Your soul can evolve. Just believe.

>>508147889
>>508149833
I also struggle to make eye contact. It starts with random anxiety and nervousness during social interactions, all while having a person stare at your face 100% of the time, which starts to feel awkward. And then it just gets worse from there where it carries onto speaking with other people. I still dont understand why continual eye contact is so necessary for interaction.

>>508140469 (OP)
You may need adrenaline my man. You sound somewhat sociopathic like me. Start doing high adrenaline things like motorcross jumps, sportbike riding, para diving, bungie jumping. Just not rock climbing. Thats fuckin gay and stupidly dangerous

>>508140469 (OP)
I'm going to effortpost, even though I doubt you'll take heed. When it comes to fulfillment and happiness, it's mostly chemical. This is your diet, your workout and exercise of choice and, magnitudes more important, sleep. You need to sleep 8 hours a day, no two ways about it. Improving your diet is not the hardest thing, if you can't into cooking get your macros from "easy" food and supplement a multivatamin, zinc and vitamin D3 and K2. When it comes to the "spiritual" side of things, your own consciousness, you need to realize that your reality and how you perceive it, is of your own design. You choose how you see the world and how you react to it. This is NOT hippy or buddhist bullshit, it's just reality. You are only failing the standarts you have put on yourself, and you should reevalute what you want in your life and what's important to you (It's definetely how you perceive and treat yourself, and to a lesser extent, others. Be a positive presence in your closed one's life). But it's all in your grasp, you either choose to be happy, or you don't.

>>508150477

That's because you care what they think. Don't. Focus on making them feel uncomfortable. Bug you eyes out and run your tongue across the front of your teeth while maintaining perfect eye contact

>>508146198
I see you.

>>508140469 (OP)
>>>/r9k/

Your soul isnt worth shit

>>508140469 (OP)
No

>>508140469 (OP)
I guarantee you've never experienced a single thing.

>>508150729
You're correct, I understand what you are saying, but I have always been an introvert, so I cant help what others think about me (I dont care if they dont like me, but am disturbed by if they are acting like they do). I might try your suggestion though.

>>508150477
Eye contact is part of non verbal evolutionary comunication.
Thats why we have white in the eyes, so we know what the other person is lookin at without saying anything. Thats why dogs have white in the eyes and wolves dont.
Looking at something means you are giving attention at it.
This and many automated social cues are mediated by the cerebelum.

>The Cerebellum Learning Movement, Language, and Social Skills, Dianne M. Broussard (You can skip the Phisio-Anatomy Stuff, not really relevant if you dont have related health studies)

So, a person feels disrespect when in a interaction you dont give them attention, like not looking at the eyes, doing something else, yawning (communicates boredom, which is lack of interest), and many others which I cant recall right now.

From the book above, some other studies are wondering if "neurodivergence" social impairments doesnt actually come from cerebral differences but cerebellum ones.

You dont have "adequated" automated responses, which is a way of energy efficiency, so you have to pull conscious responses, taking more energy and effort than required in "neurotypical". This is the so called masking for Autism or management of impression on ADHD; its a learnt behaviour, not an automated/inherent one.
That extra effort you need to make applies stress on the system, which is translated to anxiety or discomfort which can snowball into social akwardness and feedback the loop.

Its the reason of a shortspan of social battery; you need to use a lot more of resources in your brain to behave as it's "expected"; this drives you to isolation when you are surrounded by people who loves and cares about you.
You don't feel understood, and the phrase you just said represents all this turmoil:
> I still dont understand why continual eye contact is so necessary for interaction.

>>508152873
Interesting. Thanks bro.

>>508146980

>muh it’s not genetics just take supplements bro

I take all of what you mentioned on top of L-Tyrosine, Lion’s Mane, Ashwaganda, Iodine, NAC, Iron, Vitamin C, Zinc and still have crippling ASD and ADHD, you are a fucking idiot who has no idea what he is talking about , it is a very real condition

As for others in this thread with these conditions, your brain literally functions differently and is hardwired to be a hunter gatherer. Thinking about shit isn’t going to fix your problems like neurotypical people, you have to get up and go outside in nature as that is what your brain yearns for. Manual jobs like trades and construction are the way to go - neurodivergent anons you were put here on this earth to create, not consume