now that the blackpowder cloud has settled
which is superior, line or column?

Column for melee and Line for fire power

What a dumbfuck post. When have columns ever been used for anything other than marching long distance?

>>508165556 (OP)
Square

Why did you march in formation in front of guns? Are they stupid?

>>508166318
Actual guns, also called cannon, fire in an arc. They go over line infantry.
They also were often set up on elevated areas to help line of sight for such actions.

So, no zoomer. You are the one that is stupid.

>>508166318
Retarded gen alpha
>>508166571
This nigga never watch napoleon

>>508165556 (OP)
Dispersed line until close enough to converge in grouped attacks on the enemy line. Wherever there's a breakthrough the signal is given to send in more troops. If the enemy line is not broken you're up for bayonet and sword charge but you didn't lose so many people to enemy fire by staying in a packed line or worse, in a column.

>>508165556 (OP)
>What is enfilade?

>>508165953
Epaminondas wept.

>>508165556 (OP)
Column, because they're proactive and aggressive. Lines are passive and thus feminine and gay.

this is the best thread on /pol/ right now

>>508165556 (OP)
Wedge

>>508165953
bro you just posted cringe

>>508165556 (OP)
Column lost, so. Uh anyway, column relies much more on discipline and order after a certain point. By which I mean, so long as you can get your men to stand in line and fire 3 volleys before the column arrives you have a good chance of winning. And if your line breaks you just reform. If the column breaks and runs it's over for the entire column, you are not reforming that today.

>>508168502
skirmish line

>>508165556 (OP)
wedge

>>508168732
skirmish line

>>508165556 (OP)
Tercio formation,

>>508168732
>>508168880
Skirmish wedge.

skirmish column

Column line

Nigger

>>508168502
only for cavalry

>>508165556 (OP)
Tertio!

>>508165556 (OP)
Each has their own advantages and disadvantages. Go play a total war game.

>>508165953
Why woukd you pist about a subject you have absolutely no knowledge of? The French under napoleon were famous for attacking in columns during battles

>>508165556 (OP)
>shock combat with no armor

Lmao. Bayonets are for repelling cavalry attacks only. You may as well arm your infantry with pikes.

>>508165556 (OP)
generals were sitting around arguing this while their soldiers were getting mowed down by machine guns in ww1

>>508171307
>Approximately 78 British generals died during World War I, according to historians. This number includes those killed in action, those who died of wounds, or those who died as a result of active service. Researchers also note that around 76 French generals, 2 Belgian, 2 Italian, and 2 Romanian generals also died, along with 70 German, 40 Austro-Hungarian, and one Ottoman general.
That's the neat thing about WW1, even the generals were dying in meat wave artillery trench siege warfare

>>508165556 (OP)
Going prone and shooting from a prone position. Yes you can reload a musket while prone, that's how people did it during the civil war in America.

>>508171496
you're cute

>>508171457
and thats nothing compared to how many officers died in the napoleonic wars
WW2 began the pussified officer tren

>>508165556 (OP)
https://odysee.com/@Das_Syndikat:3/Aryan-man-defends-Europe-from-shitskin-invasion-5000-BC:5

>>508165556 (OP)
retard thread
both lines, columns and squares are useful
the first for firing volleys, the second either to move around or to charge (until the enemy has artillery), the third for repelling cavalry charge and cross fire between separate forces (the battle of the Pyramids is a good example of squares repelling various attacks solely with gun fire)

>>508166571
you retard they didn't
why do americans always suck THAT much at history

>>508165556 (OP)

Your Mother formation.

>>508172316
in the Napoleonic wars even marshals died in combat
3 french "maréchaux d'Empire" were killed in action: Lannes,Bessières and Poniatowski, the latter dying only a few days after becoming a field marshal

>>508173225
are you saying cannons couldn't be aimed over infantry lines and that they were not typically deployed on elevated terrain?

>>508165556 (OP)
line if superior in logistics or technology
column if inferior, relying on flanks and skirmishes prioritizing destruction of infrastructure over destruction of enemy manpower

Column to attack
Line to defend against infantry
Square to defend against cavalry
Artillery vs Artillery until you gain the advantage. Then Artillery vs infantry until they withdraw or you force them to attack. Roundshot at long range, cannister/grape close quarters.

>>508174933
>Column to attack
you mean, like, for advancing to a position before transition into line formation? no way they actually engaged while still in a column

>>508165556 (OP)
Siege accompanied by heavy infantry, then spam slaves on their families homes and apple trees