>can’t penetrate deep enough to destroy Fordow
Now what?

It can. Next question.

You know what can penetrate deep enough?

>>508180076 (OP)
This is before nukes

chemical weapons through the air vents should do the trick.

My money is on Mossad ft. Seal team 6 raid.

>>508180156
and this is after nukes

>>508180076 (OP)
Israel keeps up it's air campaign and destroys Iran's military
Iran's civilian population revolts

>>508180156
>This is before nukes

>>508180076 (OP)
>Now what?
Tactica nukes.

>>508180076 (OP)
Ace Combat solution. Fly into the tunnel that leads into the fewer of the mountain.

Duh.

>>508180076 (OP)
There is something poetic about destroying nukes with nukes, it's not like we're actually short on options.

A nuke will quake the earth so hard that yhe mountain itself chews up the facility if need be, at that point depth stops mattering completely.

>>508180379
Facility*

>>508180209
>and this is after nukes

conclusion is we need more nukes? Lets nuke Israel Rising Lion end with all kike rats that that fear cats

God put lions in Africa to control nigger population
There is no large cats in Israel, where they get this idea with a cat, to scare Russian bear?

Jew rat plan is to give you money. People don't do stupid thinks for free, that what are money for.

God = Money and kikes wrote in trhe book, that they are Gods chosen. Because kikes print money in privately owned Federal Reserve , no one has power to control Federal Reserve owned by jew rats.

For the right number people will get in line to suck circumcised .... what you gonna do about that? shoot the rocket with hope that non of military generals sucked dick yet?

Jew rats can turn military organization into Nafo sisters ... evaluate that kind of social bomb on humanity.

>>508180076 (OP)
>missed on purpose

>>508180209
Nukes cleaned out all the japanese niggrs for sure.

why not just drop 2 of them then ?

>>508180351
Nukes are even worse at penetrating
Unless they somehow have nuclear shaped charges which is unlikely because the USA hasn't had the ability to produce warheads for the past decade

>>508181827
>cucked by le "stealth" bomb bay (tiny)
Also usually the hole/tunnel of the bomb collapses behind it so hitting the same spot twice is even more difficult than you'd expect

>>508180076 (OP)
They call on Tyrone to drop the Tactical BBC

>>508180076 (OP)
>Now what?
Drop 60 of them till they dig a hole, deplete half of the stockpile, lose 3 b2s and find out Iran has 3 others even deeper and further east.
Go reeee and launch all nukes on whitest parts of the world like some nice villages with no browns.

>>508181891
>nuclear shaped charges
impossible, nothing could contain the explosion to direct it.

>>508180076 (OP)
No deep enough, the metal heart,
To pierce the rock, to tear apart
What lies beneath, a hidden threat,
A goal unmet, a life misspent.

The carrier sits, a titan grand,
Designed to strike across the land,
But its sharp point, a futile plea,
Against the depths of destiny.

For years it yearned, for years it strove,
To breach the earth, a forceful shove.
To splinter stone, to crack the core,
And leave destruction evermore.

Yet now it sees, with weary eyes,
The prize it sought, in truth, just lies.
No need to burrow, dark and deep,
While other battles wait to keep.

The wasted years, the strength poured out,
On conquering what held no doubt
Of its own power, to remain,
Unscathed by futile, earthly pain.

So let it rest, its purpose shed,
A new path lies, a different tread.
For conquest isn't always found,
In breaking what lies underground.

We don't actually need to bomb Iran.

We don't actually need the zionist Jews.

They are destroying our nation in many ways.

Runaway usury is impoverishing the nation.

They trample on the Constitution.

They neglect it in selfishness.

Let's fight for America instead.

Let's remove the zionist Jews.

>>508180130
It literally can't. There is nothing man made that can penetrate that much solid rock. Stop lying.

It's beyond over

>>508180234
>Iran's civilian population revolts
Youre so delusional mutt its actually sad to see

>>508180076 (OP)
>US only has one in its inventory
>The technology to make it has been lost to the ages.
>The Materials to make it are no longer found on earth
Are you fucking retarded?

>>508182179
Containment of course not, but theoretically lensing is possible

>>508182623
you use multiple bombs in the same hole you massive baboon

>>508180076 (OP)
Guess its time to send in the Marines. Of course Israel cant just use its own army to accomplish its own goals because reasons.

what would mutts do if Iran manages to shoot down several B2s?

>>508183186
That would be very funny, just like the F-117 being shot down in 1999, it was a national embarrassment

>>508180209
Did they ever once say thank you?

>>508183186
Start a $2 trillion B-3 program that goes way over budget

>>508180149
why can't I have his godlike stamina bros

>>508180076 (OP)
It probably can't even get near enough to drop the bomb.
>50 yo technology
I would be very surprised if neither China or Russia made any AA against B2s. They probably do and I don't see why they should not send a few them to their ally Iran

>>508182793
Uhhhhhhh nigga do you know what people will do without power for over a week? Absolutely on the table. Would be one of the most fucked up things any nation has ever done but, they're already talking about using tacnukes so.... pretty clear these niggers have lost their fucking minds.

>>508180076 (OP)
>Now what?
Uno Reverse.
The USAF nukes Dimona, Tel-Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem.
In the confusion everyone will blame Iran.
Iran will either try to deny it by giving up their nuke program or 'own' it and take the blame.
BUT with Israel gone everyone in the ME wins.
>no more forever Jihad wars
>no need for Arab nukes
>no Mossad Epstein videos
>no Gaza Pallys or only a few survivors
>no Holy Land to fight over
>no Third Temple
>no Billions per year in Aid
> World Peace
Trump gets his Nobel Peace prize.
Simple.

>>508180076 (OP)
>orange man humiliated
>B-2 gets shot down by a Chinse missile
>orange man chimps out
>NOOOK NOOOK NOOOOK
>handlers tell him no and put him in the cuckcage until he calms down
>comes out a few days later claiming ACTUALLY Iran begged him not to bomb them and that they would accept his deal that's why the penetrator didn't work

>>508180076 (OP)
They'll fuck up the access tunnels

I am so fucking sick of hearing the hysterics about this shit lol

>>508183259
its not even that unrealistic, china and russia have advanced enough systems that could shoot these bombers down.
china also has these spyships nearby which have very powerful radars and sensors and satellites so they could warn the iranians.
and to drop a bomb like that massive bunker buster you have to overfly the target which is maximum danger for any plane.
its also possible that the targeting system of the bomb could be spoofed so they dont hit the bunker.

If Trump actually had some balls he would just assassinste Netanyahu. That would defuse the whole situation and the whole region. But he's Netanyahu's cocksleeve.

>>508180149
yeah! tonight!

>>508180149
reminds me of that...

>>508183548
Well you're really going to hate paying for this war and then paying for Israel's rebuild

>>508183800
kek

>>508180076 (OP)
yeah my opinion is this is why they want negotiations.
The west is scared it can't penetrate, they arent sure. If they try and fail, its over.
Iran will basically be free to develop the nuke and the U.S/Israel will have to design a larger bomb and maybe even a larger plane or invade the country,
The west is cautions about it but so is Iran.

>>508183504
This is literally the way. It’s a win-win for everyone who doesn’t suck baby penis.

>>508182968
>hitting the same tiny hole at the same angle over and over
>explosion won't instantly collapse the tunnel it has dug

>>508182968
How likely is it that B2s drop the bunker busters?
Only to have isreali F35s drop some nukes down the shaft after and blame iran for the fallout?
Can you use a nuke without it being detected?

>>508183259
>ken got his "wig" split

>>508180076 (OP)
It has to drop the bomb over the target so it has ot be close, it has to open its bomb bays that means from below and close to theran it will be very very visibile and lockbale, so will the bomb as it is quite big.

Soem drones could hit it, have quadcopte drones hover like a mine field over the city.

use good old artilyery/flak with thermals so prevent lock ons and prewarning. its gona be fun. It has to fly a certrain hight to the bomb hit terminal velocity tho.

So by weight of bomb, airt tempo and densety we can even dtermin the hight it wil and have to drop the bomb for maximum effect.

The height \(h(p)\) is given by \(h(p)=\frac{\ln \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-p^{2}}}\right)}{A}\). Where \(A=\frac{1}{2}\frac{\rho CS}{m}\). \(p\) is the percentage of terminal velocity (e.g., \(0.99\) for \(99\%\)). \(\rho \) is air density, \(C\) is drag coefficient, \(S\) is cross-sectional area.

Do the math's so you can at least determine the hight at what weather condition's they will try to strike from.

>>508180076 (OP)
They will use 3 or 4 of them on the same spot.
>>508180149
kek

>>508184139
>He doesn't understand kinetic destabilization
It's the same reason you want to replace your ceramic plating after it gets shot. After the first few shots, it's about as useful as air.
Same principles with blasting solid rock. Eventually it just degrades into easily penetrable rubble.

>>508184172
Underground you could avoid initial detection and lie about an earthquake, but radiological analysis would reveal your nuke. Anything above ground has a characteristic gamma ray signature that can be detected globally via satellite.

Even small missile launches are detected from space now via IR tracking.

>>508180076 (OP)
>Now what?
Now keep your ZOG noses out of it? You already had a deal which Trump ripped up to please his kike overlords.
>>508180234
And then they spontaneously become a liberal democracy? You mutts truly are imbeciles.

>>508184376
Depends on the rock. Even HEAT rounds re unable to pentrate river rocks. They dont even make a fucking dent.

Seen it, its uncanny what rocks can withstand we talk here about live HEAT rounds and a fucking simple rock.

>>508180076 (OP)
>>508182623
just like nothing could have taken down that chinese weather ballon?

>>508184243
>Soem drones could hit it
at 50000 feet?

>>508184508
If you can make a solid crack in it, it is amazing how easy granite can continue to split. They do it in granite quarries to create big slabs then push it over. Its also how the ancients used to make rock slabs through cracking techniques instead of having to spend countless days sawing through it. 3 or 4 MOPs on the same spot would definitely reach down to the suggested 80 meters depth of Fardow with no problems. And bury it.

>>508181827
>One MOP can penetrate x meters.
Drop ALL of them in the same place and they will penetrate 20 times as deep.

>>508185263
>granite
Granite also peels off nicely if exposed to heat.
They could do a mix of bombing runs alternating MOP, Napalm, high explosive.
- MOP creates a deep crater
- Napalm fills the crater and softens the next layers of rock
- high explosive removes the debris
- next MOP deepens the crater
- repeat

>>508184447
Any chance the Numec uranium stolen from US could be still used in bombs?
Would it have a unique fingerprint to specific facility?

>>508182098
>Drop 60 of them
murica only has 20 of them (GBU-57)
the rest are substantially weaker since they're not meant to go that deep underground

also whatever hole is made will get partially refilled by soil and debris after each blast

>>508185585
Oh, and take care of the nearby housing where the workers of Fordow and their families live.
Killing the workers is certainly not a bad idea.

>>508183609
The bombers will be protected by all sorts of fighter planes, that's why the aircraft carriers are being moved. Also expect some attenton to the chinese spy ships. Maybe a nearby destroyer will blast white noise on a white spectrum of radio frequencies, and fry their antennas with focused microwaves for good measure.

>>508185761
You want to bomb the first responders homes and kill their families?
>im the good guy

>>508180076 (OP)
Convince Putin to backstab Iran and fire some Kinzhals at it, or even an Oruschink, in return for giving Ukraine to Russia.

>>508185585
It's really not that unrealistic to make a bomb fall into the hole left by a previous bomb.
It's a bit of a Death Star plasma vent scenario and may not succeed on the first try, but the idea isn't new by any means.
>make dent in bunker
>throw more bombs at dent
Russian weapons can destroy the place in a handful of strikes, at most, and the USA could do it fairly easily as well, just put some tungsten kinetic warheads onto an ICBM and bombard the mountain with that? A 500kg tungsten penetrator moving at 10-15km/s will penetrate quite deep, over 50m into solid granite.

>>508184815
the bomb before impact, put shaped charges on them. Bomb triggers it like ERA on a tank, deforms the Penetrator/fuses the charge.

If nothing happens you can land the remaining drones and use them later. Quadcopter drones as air mines would be perfect for air defense and ordinance defense.

>>508186410
Even better for anti helicopter and airfield raids.
Kek try to land your C17 when on finale approach drone like a bird strike but with explosives hits your engine and you slam in the ground like a rock.

>>508184815
and yes even at that Hight, get helium balloons to keep them at a certain altitude and use the engines only when needed. Kek loitering anti air Munition. And you can land it and rearm it and you have hundreds of not thousands of them at all time in the air.


Holly shit im doing here DARPA work here for free.

All to support and help Iran to defend its independence and the death of the jude.

>>508180076 (OP)
theow mutts instead of bombs until you seized fordowhatever

>>508180076 (OP)
Such petty details don't concern Trump.
Air assets are being moved into places.
Something will get bombed.

>>508186098
>Convince Putin to backstab Iran and fire some Kinzhals at it, or even an Oruschink, in return for giving Ukraine to Russia.
I honestly think they have already promised him parts of Ukraine or something else.

This war is 100% Russia fault, they betrayed Iran like they betrayed Syria, they are probably broke, bribed by the Jews.

There is no other credible explanation why they hit Iran only NOW.

Why not wait for the next Iranian popular revolt, why not foment one, like they did all over the fucking world?

Putin told them what to do, and the Yank veto the assassination of the Khamenei.

Seriously, you people have other explanations?

>>508184815
Thx anon we might here have killed a few million juden. You can be proud of your self today.

>>508180076 (OP)
>Fordow
>Fordow
>Fordow
MSM is annoying as fuck. I don't care about "Fordow" faggot

>>508187320
They are just hyping up the NPCs, sheeple and zogbots who actually watch that shit, for more war. Same propaganda technique every single time.

Whether the MOP works will really depend on the rock.
If there's all kinds of natural fractures in the rock over Fordow it could potentially trigger a collapse. But then the uranium is still there. So now you have to retrieve it somehow.
But if the rock over the reactor is relatively low in natural defects (like if they picked the location based on the quality of the rock) then it's just going to shrug it off, no matter how many times you bomb it. Like when this kind of rock is approached naturally you're basically drilling multiple holes, (like every 2-3 feet) inserting TNT and blasting it from the inside... and repeating, a few inches at a time.
I find it hard to believe any kind of ordinance dropped from the air will do shit against it- Like I said unless there are lots of natural defects in the rock, in which case it will collapse and you still have to go in on the ground and remove the uranium the old fashioned way.
This whole plan is retarded.

>>508180198
and then they'll plant a bunch of evidence and post it on yidtoob/xitter. Then they'll assassinate the ayatollah and put isis/al-qaeda in power....and I think you know the rest

If the daleets and the kerpals got nukes in the 90s, why wouldn't Iran already have them?

Now lets say they don't have one yet and nuking the bunker isnt an option.

The next option is to distrupt the civil infrastructure to knock out all the division of labor needed to fabricate a bomb.

explosive lenses
nuclear switches for precision detonation
neutron reflectors
Most of that shit requires precision machining and fabrication. All the talk is focuses around muh enrichment

That aint all happening in a bunker. Its scattered all over the entire country.

>>508187566
>Same propaganda technique every single time
seriously. I remember the faggot ass diagrams of their WMD facilities from the 90s when Netinjewbag wanted us to attack iraq. tkd and OP, don't EVER mention fordow on this board again you fucking jew

>>508186025
>>508183609
Modern warfare is so fucking lame and gay. It's video game tier shit.

>>508180076 (OP)
How would they even know if the enrichment chamber was destroyed?

>>508188847
Literally no way of knowing unless they get in on the ground.

>>508181827
one penetrates the other and you get half the total penetration

>>508180076 (OP)
Make a big black bomb

>>508180076 (OP)
Each one carries 2 bombs
one of the bombs can be a tactical nuke and nobody will know the difference
> 15 ton yield
> 15 ton yield
> 15 ton yield
> 1000 ton yield
> 15 ton yield

>>508182179
This has been designed
Its a Tungsten Carbide penetrator
Its inefficient but the huge force involved will propel it at some small fraction of the speed of light (like 1-4%)

>>508180076 (OP)
They'll kill the leadership and install a puppet government one way or another. It may happen this year, the next, whenever... this is destined to happen. Iran will be toppled and that will be that. Next will be Russia's turn and China will be fenced in until India replaces it and spreads to all the white countries, taking over everything. After which, the world will regress technologically and culturally a few decades and recovery will be slow and the future uncertain.

tl;dr
No, there won't be a nuclear escalation, ever.

>>508183800
he's right over the target
the flak will be the heaviest

>>508184243

They cant reach 60,000 fucking feet you moron.

>>508181827
going to laugh my ass off when a B2 gets shot down over iranian airspace. we have yet to see any evidence that israel has taken manned aircraft into iran. every clip of footage, every photo released has been from drones. israel is not certain they have gotten all the advanced air defenses at all. there is such a thing as decoys, the israelis already made a big deal out of bombing a couple of decoy f14s. things are far from certain in iran and i would take anything the israelis say with a huge grain of sale, everything coming from them has been lies so far. no air defenses is just likely another lie.

>>508180076 (OP)
Just give iran all the land east of the Tigris River and give Israel all the land west of the euphrates River. The land between the rivers becomes a buffer zone called Mesopotamia or sumer or Babylon or chudistan or whatever

>>508189428
With modern technology and precession, high velocity rounds there will be no time to evading, stealth will help you, the airplanes are paper thin and slow, no radar locks no indication of are they coming or not. no need to shoot WW2 style hundreds of rounds. You get 10 or 20 in a few meters of the target quite quick. just some pipes looking up. auto loaders, thermals, remote control, sensor fusion.

>>508189499
so can drones, each engineered problem will be solved by engineered solution.

Look at it like riddle, a puzzle to be solved.

>>508180076 (OP)
Make a bigger bomb, duh.

>>508188521
>Modern warfare is so fucking lame and gay. It's video game tier shit.

and thats a good. just drones from a screen.
no more kid hero fantasies.
as wars wont give men any pleasure in the age of drones, men no longer want to do wars.

>>508180379
I like this

>>508180076 (OP)
>>508181827
Why not just drop another bombers?

>>508183934
>If they try and fail,
USA will nuke Iran

>>508184172
Why to try to cover it up.
You think something will happen to USA if they nukes again?
They did it once they will do it again without any hesitation.
USA is too strong to be scared. They have an empire behind them.

>>508180149
>/pol/ is full 30 yo kissless virgins
>meanwhile the average beetle that was born 3 hours ago

>>508180076 (OP)
goy draft. 100 millions of white christians are forced by shitskins to join the military hohol style to die in a final crusade.

>>508182968
My confidence in that actually working is about 10%

>>508180149
>the fuck you looking at?
>*keeps pounding*

>>508180076 (OP)
How deep did that one go? The one in the picture.
I would be shocked, flabergasted, if these can dig themselves deep enough that the tail doesn't poke out of the hole before detonating.

>>508195053
The one in OP's pic looks like a anti-ship missile. The Bunker buster is claimed by its (((manufacturers))) as being able to penetrate 40 feet into rock

>>508180076 (OP)
drop more

>>508189572
I'm pretty sure the B2 will have an escort from the USAF.

>>508190078
Peace is fucking gay. I hate people who want to end all wars. Why the fuck is global peace desirable?

I fucking hate hippies goddamn fucking much.

>>508180076 (OP)
Heckin two-spirits

>>508194362
Hit a 3ft wide hole from 60,000ft. It has to hit exactly the same spot with the same angle as the first, because if it touches the side the bomb will turn sideways and make the hole shallower
>10% chance...

>>508195053
they can't go more than a few lengths, that's basic newtonian physics, momentum of displaced ground must equal momentum of missile.

if the missile has 2x the density of the dirt (being very generous) it can go at most 2 lengths in or about 40 feet

>>508196285
Having an escort would ruin the stealth

>>508180076 (OP)
How the fuck do they expect to get through a solid rock mountain?

>>508180076 (OP)
I'm over the antiwar sentiment. I can't wait to see American boots on the ground and see the insane gross miscalculation of the opponent's capabilities resolve, like always. Here's to 20 more years of war and occupation in a Middle Eastern desert. And all the while Trump bragging on Twitter about how it's the greatest military operation ever carried out, the best since D-Day! Then subsequently blaming his blunder on Joe Biden somehow when it doesn't go like he thought it would.

>>508196471
What if you fire two different ones back to back? First penetrates shallow and explodes wide to soften the ground, second goes deep and focused.

>>508196770
2nd gulf war:
>Burgers yee-haw across the desert.
>get to small town with strategic bridge
>stopped by small platoon of iraqis for 2 weeks
>6 weeks to take bagdad's airport
>reporters black-pilling about months to years of door to door fighting
and this is before drone warfare became a thing...

>>508196603
The escort can also be stealth, such as the F35 and F22. They might also send electronic warfare planes like the EA-18G Growler.

>>508180149
>Even a bug a few weeks old at most can get sex
What's YOUR excuse?

>>508180076 (OP)
The same thing we did with Iraq. Drop more than one on the same point. You just dig through the problem with explosives

Imagine they do this and it doesn't even work. They might kick off ww3 for no reason.

>>508180076 (OP)
>can't Penetrate
Typical mutt day

>>508197792
Stealth means low radar reflectivity
2~3 may sneak through
20~30 will be seen
those fighters will also need refueling too

>>508196135
>MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator)
That's one's it.
>>508196471
When I think of this law, I think of o a lead bullet getting smashed against a block of lead. I'm not sure how close to the theoretical maximum a missile that's supposed to stay in one piece can get. I'm sticking by my <1 length bet.

"Sorry we ate it we didn't know that it is invisible."

>>508180149
Best porno I've seen in years.

"Sorry we ate it we didn't know that it is invisible."

>>508198488
>The MOP
American bombs have cool names.
>>508198430
>2~3 may sneak through
Yeah, well they might have two flights of three planes. Each consisting of a B2 with two F35s. So the first one goes in to enemy airspace and drops the first MOP, and the second one goes and drops the second MOP behind it. Actually, a single B2 can carry two MOPs, but for redundancy they might have two B2s each with two MOPs.
>those fighters will also need refueling too
More than 31 refuelling aircraft have been mobilised as of a week ago.

>>508180149
reminds me of this

>>508180076 (OP)
imagine americlaps try to bomb it anyway and get shot down

>it can't be done
it CAN be done. send in the dorfs

>>508184701
Yes, which is why it happily made its way across most of the US until it was low enough for American jets to actually reach it. Anything else?

>>508182968
>bro, just keep hitting the same hole with a 14 tonne bomb from 15000 meters while under AA fire

>>508184376
>bro, like, level the mountain bro, a few bombs is enough