Thread 508188036

>see because those places are cheaper, we must be making up the difference cause uh fixed cost
fascinating, and yert euros make less than min wage in the us

>>508188036 (OP)
our NATO spending pays for europe's lavish welfare spending. poor working black people in america are paying for rich lazy white people in europe's healthcare.

>>508188208
what nato?
you mean the us war program?
the thing only used by the us to attack other countries like korea, vietnam, or iraq?
the one bush used to start the ukraine v russia war?

>>508188036 (OP)
Imagine how stupid the average magatard is if they believe this.

>>508188036 (OP)
Just wait until you find out where Europeans get their defense weapons from, it'll blow your mind.

>>508188036 (OP)
Yeah there's a reason the British NHS would send lucky patients to the U.S to get laser cancer treatment at a private hospital - American is at the leading edge in healthcare development, subsidized by the American insurance payer.

>>508188208
>our NATO spending pays for europe's lavish welfare

>>508188036 (OP)
too bad this guy is lying again and you are subsidizing israeli healthcare not EU one

>>508188036 (OP)
He hates Europe so much kek
He's like half of the mutt posters here who are full of envy and seethe when they think of Europe

>>508188036 (OP)
It's true in a sense because of research done here. I'm not watching it but I'd wager you're a retard and the context and implication of what he was discussing was conveyed well enough

>>508188605
you don’t know the half of it Nigel

>>508188036 (OP)
The bigger lies they tell, the more MIGAtards believe it.

pay us more slave

>>508189551
He really conveys his argument well by bringing up Ozempic, a drug researched and developed in Denmark, and saying how its more expensive in the US than Canada, showing there is clearly more to the story than US research costs.

>>508189509
you are thinking of pic rel anon
divide et impera

>>508188036 (OP)
Yet another lie from Mister Pweaze.
You don't subsidize anything for us and pharma companies try to fleece us just as much, they're just allowed to fleece you harder in America because there is no regulation at all and they own your politicians more than they do here.
Big pharma sells their meds as high as the people are able to pay for them, it's as simple as that.
Not the first time Vance spouts stuff like that, I'm not sure if he's genuinely uninformed on the subject or is doing it on purpose.
At any rate keep going, it's a good wake up call for Europe that America isn't an ally because our politicians have been too naive for decades. There is no such things as allies in politics between nations, just some interests that align momentarily but can completely change in a relatively short time frame.

>>508188208
yeah bro if not for might of USA Europe would be assaulted by, uh, Atlantis or some shit.

>>508188036 (OP)
maybe it has something to do with the trillions we waste on bullshit forever wars. idk.

Whites are dumb as bricks. You can't vote for a circus and then pretend you didn't ask for it. You're stupid and lazy.

>>508189743
zepbound is worse

>>508189509
Mutts are simply insecure rootless and deracinated fags.

>>508188208
This meme is retarded, we spend as much as we do on our military bidget because it grants us world dominion. Europe would not need to collectively replace the NATO budget for their own defense, it's much more in our interests than theirs that we have bases everywhere

The fact they have to worry at all about the Ukraine situation or Ukrainian refugees is because of our constant expansion of NATO for our own ends

>>508188208
>>508189283
>>508189830
faggots have no shame. If not for nato and mutts ukraine would be russia by now

>>508190021
grim

>>508190255
Shut the fuck up Ranjesh. NATO only exists so lockheed/raytheon and others can make money. It has only ever been used for American interests. Irak part 1 because Bush Senior was Saudi owned. Irak part 2 boogaloo because Junior had to finish the job and because of the oil. Afghanistan because it was a convenient money sink as was shown in the pentagon spending files. Libya because Gaddafi wanted to start the petrodollar. Ukraine started in 2014 with the CIA and the 3 day special operation has been an embezzlement fiesta.
It's always the same and I fucking hate that faggot Sarkozy for going back into that shitshow which was convenient for him since he wanted Gaddafi dead so he wouldn't be able to talk about the dirty money he received from him. Then that orange fat fuck complains that other members don't spend enough. Spend enough for what? For their wars that have nothing to do with us? They've been doing that since the fall of the USSR and now seeing that hamster retarded race traitor Vance use that rethoric while it's the shit they've been doing forever is the peak of pot calling the kettle black.
Fuck America, fuck Nato, De Gaulles was right.

>>508188208
We had fairly "lavish" (for the time) welfare spending during the cold war when our military spending as a % of gdp was higher than America's is now. America doesn't have "lavish" welfare because taxes are lower, which is a political choice Americans have made.

>>508188036 (OP)
big round of applause for nevertrumper JD vance!

>>508188036 (OP)
>YOUR HEALTHCARE IS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THATS FRACTION OF THE US DEFENSE BUDGET, PLEASE DONT KILL ANYMORE CEOS!!!
sure

>>508188036 (OP)
why would you need a hospita lif you are dyng for israel chuddie?

>>508188036 (OP)
looks like zog bots got nother no for ther shity shitsrael war from europe and pathetical strike back.

Kek keep seething.

>>508189769
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/qatar-israels-next-real-enemy-after-iran/
buckleup goys it will be tenfold from now on.

>>508188036 (OP)
I wonder what he thinks about defence spending for Israel, and all the indirect costs like going to war with people who could sell you cheap oil, and paying off every other country around Israel so they dont act hostile.

>>508192053
check this shit out.

>>508192992
see

>>508193131
they pay for israel healthcare but dont see them complain about it :?How comes ?

>>508189806
Don't forget the Pentagon's billions and billions of budget.

>>508193516
where israel healthcare stands on this graph?

>>508188036 (OP)
Americans are really the dumbest retards thankfully they will be replaced by high iq jeets

>>508193759
right in the middle since burgers pay for it

>>508193926
they literally dont

>>508188036 (OP)
Imagine how much of a colossal cretin you have to be in order to believe this nonsense.

>>508193974
glows

>>508193974
>they
lmao kys kike you filthy worm

>>508188208
Classic Europeans making blacks do the dirty work

>>508189509
I can guarantee you there is no real American that thinks about Europe at all. The only time I think about Europe is when I come here because I see so many europoors seething about America.

>Inb4
But but America mutt, golem, uh uh social healthcare, muh walkable cities

>>508195103
You people are retard cattle. It's a compliment that you don't think about us. Literal genetic filth.

>>508195103
why do you not say these thing about israel?And please denounce the talmud and every jewish person that existed and exxists.

>>508190255
If NATO didn't exist Europe wouldn't be rubbing their nuts on Russia's face and instead would have to negotiate a modus vivendi.

>>508188036 (OP)
its jewish insurance and jewish hospital presidents working together
anyone whos been around for the past 30 years will have seen in real time what insurance does to prices with the example of pets

in the 1990s, no one had insurance on their pets
vet bills were extremely affordable even when adjusted for inflation
then in the late 00s veterinary insurance became common and then all of a sudden, some surgery for your dog went from 500 dollars to 4000 overnight

>>508190255
>NATO is the only globohomo geopolitical organisation
Nice to know the UN, etc has ceased to exist

>>508188036 (OP)
Are Americans really this stupid?

>>508195612
oh yea

>>508195409
Are you complaining about free market capitalism? Surely the competition will lower the prices.

>>508193516
In USA you also have to wait up to a year for some procedures depending where you are and what coverage

Is even go as far as to say they are also offering to kill us just not in the form of pods. also our doctors will indeed suicide you if you get the proper paperwork together.

>>508189509
He’s actually a paid actor. We don’t actually know what they believe. They are psychotic.

>>508188036 (OP)
US healthcare is messed up because it’s run as a private monopoly. If it were run as a competitive market it would be cheaper. If it were run as a public utility it would be cheaper. But instead the market is run by parasitic middlemen who fleece the public while providing nothing of value.

>>508195240
If you're not a rapefugee (serious doubt) you're just a dumb nigger who's ancestors were too much of a bootlicker to leave your dying empire for greener pastures.

>>508195254
Fuck Israel, I denounce all kike influence over all white nations. I denounce all jewish filth.

>>508196754
Nigger, the only people who left Europe were brainlet religious fanatics who got kicked out and impoverished retards who couldn't hack it in Europe. Genetic trash in other words. And it shows today.

>>508188036 (OP)
Nah, I'm 100% it straight up American corruption within the healthcare system. The whole thing is just a patronage network.

>>508188036 (OP)
Are there Americans that actually believe this? Do they really think that corpos are just giving away medications to euros either at cost (or at a loss) and Americans are making up the difference? That has to be the most retarded idea of I've heard so far this year.

>>508196881
Lol yes it totally shows with how successful America is and how poor and authoritarian the UK is... You couldn't pay me to live on your horrid little island faggot.

>>508197191
Yes because it's true

>>508188036 (OP)
It's always somebody else's fault. Surely it's not the rotten system or jewish interests

>>508197303
So you think that pharma companies are giving medication to Europe at cost? So they're making no profit by selling to any European nation?

>>508188208
>working black people

>>508197191
Because it’s literally true :/

>>508188036 (OP)
Anyone who knows anything about healthcare has known this for a very very long time. Why do people think medicine is cheaper in Canada? Drug companies sell it to Canada for cheaper as Canada's social healthcare system can't afford those drugs at full price. They sell it to us and Europe for cheap and crank the price up on American prices to make up the difference. That's literally how it works.

Also a lot of healthcare costs in America are expensive because of hospitals. They get away with charging absolutely fucking crazy prices because they know insurance will have to cover it.

>>508197510
Same question I asked the other guy
>So you think that pharma companies are giving medication to Europe at cost? So they're making no profit by selling to any European nation?

Because they have to be selling at least at cost, other wise they're making profit and there's no cost for Americans to cover.

>>508197512
most medicine is manufactured in india and china and its sold for dirt cheap.All the added price is marketing(goy tax)
https://www.israel21c.org/israels-teva-leads-u-s-generic-drug-market/

>>508188036 (OP)
his argument is because european regulations dont let american companies gouge civillians for 2000k ambulance rides and like i dunno diebetes medicine isnt $800 a week thats why american healthcare is expensive

not just that american companies can charge whatever the fuck they want in america because the republicans deregulated them in usa

>>508197266
Successful. Is that what you're calling it these days.

>>508198017
it used to be great....again...

>>508189743
US pharma companies spend more on marketing than R&D.

They keep saying this, but never seem to do anything about it?

>>508189154
You are a retard

>>508189551
Except it isn't because drug research is international with companies all over the world contributing in conjunction with universities.

>>508189743
>showing there is clearly more to the story than US research costs.
Obviously? This is like economics 101: you'll charge the price the market will bear. If you want cheaper drugs, then you need to look at your internal market: why are they more expensive here than in Canada? In the case of the US it's almost certainly because it's (effectively) corporations jewing other corporations. I don't know enough about how Americans get jewed so I can't comment, but if you imagine a market of many providers (companies that you can get medications from), but only one seller. Then that seller can set the price in the market (this explains why generic medication is cheaper: there are multiple sellers which leads to actual competition on price). Moreover, if a provider wants exclusive rights to provide that mediation, then that provider will pay a premium to ensure that.

What I'm trying to say is "there's more to the story than research costs" is a truism. Of course there is, it's an empty sentence that might sound profound but offers no insight at all. It's fucking dumb.

>>508188036 (OP)
They really need to go out of their way to logically explain this reasoning. It sounds like absolute bullshit.

>>508196267
That and medical schools facilitate labour shortage. In Cuba there are shitloads of doctors because the training costs are low. In Australia you cannot get into medical school because the government only subsidises a few spots. So you can get perfect marks in all the right classes if the admissions board didn't think you interviewed well. Often the case is that the medical students are assigned due to tokenism or nepotism. Majority of the students will be private paying international students which will likely go back to their country because they were just trained in first world medical standards.

>>508197191
You have baiting retards who actually think this
>>508197303
>>508197510
But Vance is disingenuous and will say that national pharmaceutical schemes where a country buys all of the stock for everyone is unfair because it is socialism to leverage economies of scale in favour of your population. The current US administration is genuinely the dumbest greediest fucks to ever be in the position and the Democrats should actually be charged for treason for fucking up their campaign so hard against Trump.

>>508188208
you spend more government money per person on healthcare than most european countries, your system is just fucking retarded
UK and US have the two worst healthcare approaches in the developed world

If you thought politicians were Israel/AIPACs bitch you ain't seen nothing when it comes to big pharma.

>>508188208
And I would do it again!
[spoiler]If only it was true.[/spoiler]