>Trump: We're looking at doing something where in the case of good, reputable farmers, they can take responsibility for the people that they hire
>and let them have responsibility, because we can't put the farms out of business, and at the same time, we don't want to hurt people that aren't criminals,

https://www.latintimes.com/trump-now-says-farmers-may-continue-employing-migrants-under-system-where-they-assume-585388

>>508190838 (OP)
Fell for it again

>>508190838 (OP)
OK so yhe blacks were right, kill the farmer. 90% of farmers here are rich assholes who poison the ground and produce slop produce via government welfare.

>>508190927
Fun fact, there are about 1million illegals working in hospitality and 600k working on farms

>>508190993
Yep. These (((farmers))) are millionaires who just happen to own a shit ton of agricultural land... so rich jew friends of drumpf.

>>508190838 (OP)
Hasn't he flip flopped on this ten times in the past 48 hours

>>508190838 (OP)
Trump donor farmers promise to be responsible.

>>508191198
He never really flip flopped, people wanted to believe that's what he meant.
But clearly he had the same idea in mind the entire time, this were the changes he said were coming

Based! MIGA!!!

It was always about the fent crisis and not about kicking out law-abiding people doing labor and boosting our economy. Retards.

>>508191452
>moving the goalposts this hard
illegals out, faggot. kys

>>508191452
>already damage controlling this hard
Yep, MAGA is just MIGA.

>>508191452
>Uhm actually, he never said he would deport illegals
They are criminals by their very existence

>>508191452
lmao keep coping ya bitch made faggot ahahahahaha
Soon it’ll be
>it was never about fent it was about deporting these ten specific people and giving out a million h1Bs

>>508190838 (OP)
No refunds, MAGAtards.

>>508191452
>we need to safeguard our leeching illegal slave class

No

>>508191452
>Mostly law-abiding illegal immigrants

>>508190838 (OP)
>we don't want to hurt people that aren't criminals,
All of you MIGA cock suckers who have been stating that all illegals are criminals have just been BTFO by you're own cult leader.
>>508190993
Farmers are the biggest cunts in society. They will sell their own Grandmother to the slaughterhouse if it profits them.

>>508190838 (OP)
I'm fairly sure that this amounts to slavery. You can't have it both ways. Either pay Americans or go back to your slavery.

>>508190838 (OP)
Sounds like Massa to me.

TACO award

>>508190838 (OP)
The Trump betrayal of the white working class
was to be expected.
Now is the time to push back
against the "Right" wing of forced integration with niggers
as hard as possible.
It needs to be made explicit,
that all these "Right" wingers
hate white people even more than liberals do.
They do what the liberals tell them to do,
they serve Kikes, faggots, niggers, spicks and capitalists.
Now is the time to find young white men
to read the Turner Diaries,
and to prepare for the balkanization
of that faggot fantasy called "America."

>>508190838 (OP)
my MIGGA

>>508191822
They are free.
Free to go the fuck back.
lmao

>>508191452
>trump will get rid of illegal aliens!
>by making them legal
KEK

>>508190838 (OP)
Maybe. Maybe the expectation is they get a work visa.

>>508190838 (OP)
trump says lot and nothing ever happens

>>508190838 (OP)
very telling that no MIGA tard even wants to engage with this, haven’t gotten the spin orders yet

>>508190838 (OP)
Op doesn't know the difference between migrants and illegal aliens.

>>508191452
Miga miga miga!

>>508193570
Pretty good cope attempt, but no.
Did you think they were deporting legal immigrants?

>>508193570
kill yourself kike

>>508190838 (OP)
Are they going to charge the farmers for the rapes and murders?

>>508193799
You're too stupid, I can't take this any further.

>>508194087
Holy kikery

>>508191452
quit lying. nothing trump said before getting elected indicated he would give breaks to illegal immigrants. this is an economic decision to let the law be broken.

>>508190838 (OP)
Lol why don't zoomies want to work the fields?

>>508193570
ok, so explain it to us. why are these illegals actually "migrants"

>>508191452
>it was always about not voting for senile old biden
>it was always about the economy
>it was always about no wars
>it was always about deportations
>it was always about fentinal

When Zion Don gives them all amnesty there’s gonna be some MIGA cocksucker on here calling it based for owning da libs

>>508194171
I'm not Jewish you fucking idiot. You don't get to just make up reality schizo.

>>508194195
you can do demeaning jobs with a smile on your face if you know that when you go home your wife and kids will be happy to see you in your house that you bought with your salary, when you're paid peanuts, no chance of a wife and kids, then why bother with a demeaning job, just like with grandma and eat cup ramen

>>508194381
Okay cool.
Do you want to explain why you think illegals on farms shouldn't be deported now?

>WE'RE GONNA DEPORT ALL THE ILLEGALS YEAAAAHHHH
>uhm uhh ackshually most of them can stay

>>508194573
TACO

>>508194432
>when you're paid peanuts,
relatively speaking, they are not paid peanuts, otherwise they would be doing the demeaning job at home, not in usa, where they wont even need to pay taxes on that income they receive illegally

>>508190993
I think we're under rule of imperialists in Washington DC. Our land should be working for us, growing us great food and supporting great natural beauty. But we have a bunch of rich assholes growing corn and onions, and destroying all of our natural resources, and poisoning of drinking water with chemicals that damage the sexual development of children. It's insane

>>508194611
i mean its of course peanuts to any usa citizen, but to mexican its a fair salary - especially when not paid taxes on it

>>508194611
the cia is creating cartels and instability in their countries so they're fleeing war, not low wages

>>508194238
They move back in the winter months.

>>508190838 (OP)
It is time for another Occupy movement, one that is capable of ignoring everything other than its stated goal, because once that is achieved everything falls into place. We no longer have to deal with elites using bioweapon niggergrants.

>>508191198
>>508191311
The thing is the GOP and conservatives more generally don't care about the fruit pickers. These people come up for usually less than a year at a time. 90% of them go back to Mexico. They aren't "immigrants" in the traditional sense of the word. They are just here to work.

George Bush had an idea where these people would be given specialized work visas. There would be no pathway to citizenship and no right to vote. So of course, the Democrats rejected it, because that's literally the only thing they care about.

>>508194450
You're using the word migrant and illegal alien synonomously because you don't know the difference. The liberals use the word migrant to brainwash their audience to think that people with us citizenships are are being deported because they are brown. Le racism!

No I do not want legal immigrants either, unless they're white. But that's beside the point.

>>508190838 (OP)
>doesn't stop the war
>joins new one
>now supports illegals
oh yah im voooooting

>>508195022
A migrant is someone who has gained us citizenship. I'm a white migrant from Europe.

>>508190838 (OP)
He's only deporting illegals from blue states.
So any smart illegal just moves to a red state.

>>508190838 (OP)
Indemnification of criminals isn't cheap. This is not a huge gift to "farmers" who rely on slave labor, unless they can keep them all in chains - literally in chains.
Otherwise, the first Pedro to drunk-drive into your grandmother will cause the CEO of AgriMegaCorp to be jailed. That's what "responsible for" means.

>>508195011
>>508195022
They have illegally crossed the border, they are criminals.
Why do you want to defend them?

>>508191452
Based goal post mover. They'll never get us.

>>508194843
>the cia is creating cartels and instability in their countries so they're fleeing war,

i mean.. i might believe that, if they would bring illegally their whole families with them, babies and all, not just themselves to work https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/mexico/ Feeling safe walking alone at night 42.28%

its not all of mexico that is totally unsafe. i would even adventure to say most of mexico isnt a warzone..

they might actually escape low pay working conditions Mexico, however, 27% of employees work very long hours in paid work, the highest level in the OECD, where the average is 10%.

https://roamless.com/blog/safest-places-to-live-in-mexico 1. Mérida, Yucatán Over 70% of residents report feeling safe in daily life.

>>508195022
>>508194450
I think you're talking past each other.

These are illegal immigrants. But there's a world of difference between a single guy who comes here for 8 months, lives and works on a farm, and goes home, versus an entire family of obese criminals that immediately goes on welfare and puts their adult children in your kid's middle school. One of these people is actually providing the service and the other is a net drain on everybody.

Trump is a useless sack of jewish shit. Far worse than Biden because Biden you at least knew his true colors and remain on the defense. MIGAtards didn't figure it out after 4 years of trump previously. Trump does exactly what his jewish masters demand, he just makes it more palatable by screaming how based he is while he does it. He's controlled opposition, pressure release valve, gets the right to let their guard down while he enacts shit Hillary Clinton wouldn't have gotten away with doing.

>>508195856
>they are different
Sure. They are still illegals, still criminals, still the same people Trump and MAGA wanted to deport

>>508195856
both of them taking money out of the economy, whether it be siphoning tax dollars or sending USD to mexico

>>508190838 (OP)
The whole Trump administration was a bait and switch. A Minnesota lawmaker says illegal aliens can't get free food? Murdered days later. The Senate "parlitarian" just ruled not giving free food to illegals is unconstitutional or something. Trump completely reverses on deportations. Trump completely reverses on war. All the tax cuts for the middle class time limited and cut even more. The last two weeks is when they threw off the mask

>>508195856
there is NOT a world of difference, in reality Pablo goes back home to his goblin illegal wife and their 8 kids all on welfare you stupid fucking nigger. Pablo also takes a job that the (((farmer))) could have given to a White man because guess what, we still had farms and food and hotels before the glorious beaner arrived. The beaner doesn't provide SHIT he steals all he earns by illegally undercutting. The beaner pays no taxes and is always a net drain to everyone except to the fucking (((farmer))). You MIGAtards are worse than the leftists.

>>508190838 (OP)
The Jews had a system like that in the south before the civil war...

>>508195802
they are bringing their families though

>>508190838 (OP)

>>508191311
>>508195011
So now trump supports demographic replacement

>>508195563
Nevermind.

>>508196527
Please educate me, why do you want illegals to stay in your country?

>>508191266
>>508191936
>>508193570
>>508194573
>>508194658

look at this cope, LOOK AT IT

******TAPS SIGN******
DIDN'T I TELL YOU???
DIDN'T I?

OH I KNOW IT HURTS WHEN YOU START FORMING HISTORICAL MEMORY. BUT THE WAGER IS TO NOT TRY AND WILLINGLY SHOVE IT AWAY.

You are played like a fiddle through emotional manipulation (a.k.a. propaganda) BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPROMISE THE IDEA OF USAEAN SUPREMACY WITH YOUR OWN REASONING AND EXPERIENCES.

IT'S ALL ABOUT LABOUR DISCIPLINE

>>508191452
Ah, the malleable Republican.
>okay, sodomy isn't a crime in private
And now they're cutting off your son's dick.
>okay, wetback leaf-blowers can stay
You know it was Reagan who started the flood with his "one-time-only-I-swear-to-God" mass amnesty?

>>508196673
Migrant and illegal alien are two different things.

>assume responsibility
SLAVERY IS BACK BOYS
In seriousness, for Turmp's proposal to change anything it would require the employer to be so pressured by civil and criminal warfare from the AG that the farms don't want to hire them for fear of reprisal.
Won't happen, instead it's the status quo and corporate megafarms will continue to undercut the US labor market with illegals.
Fucking prosecute them.

>>508195856
>versus an entire family of obese criminals that immediately goes on welfare and puts their adult children in your kid's middle school.

Ah yes, the thing that happens AND is wrong, 2/2 you sharp shooter.

>>508190838 (OP)
Gay and faggot. It is absolutely trivial for farms to obtain special visas for foreign workers. It has been like that since the 80s. Nothing has changed.

>>508196799
I understand you want to give them a pass.
But why can't you answer this simple question?
Why do you want these illegals to remain in your country?

>>508195536
It is a huge gift because it requires the government to follow up on every little infraction and even major crimes in order to have its intended effect.
The mega farm lawyers will then just argue, successfully, that they aren't responsible for the actions of their employees.

>>508196997
*taps sign*>>508196742

>>508195563
I've never met one of these people in my entire life. I literally never crossed paths with them. So there's really no reason for me to care. They remain in the United States for such a short period of time it is unlikely that if I ever did see one that I would see that one a second time. Again it bears repeating: they don't stay. Deporting them would be a net waste of time and energy because they already self deport.

My concern is mostly with large families of essentially homeless people who live entirely on public assistance. They put their children in public schools. And then refuse to teach them English and demand that the school cater to them. In many cases, these are actually adults and they lie about their age so they can get free meals. They drive drunk because that isn't illegal in the countries where they come from. They play loud, shitty music, and are constantly involved in some kind of crime. And what's best is some of these people will live here for 35 years, having never once taken an honest job or bothered to learn a single word of the English language.

So if Donald Trump is focusing enforcement of the latter over the former, I don't care.

I understand that in your country, illegal immigration might have a more uniform appearance.

>>508190838 (OP)
Good idea really, if he's rapey then the farmer takes the blame

>>508197106
>many cases, these are actually adults and they lie about their age so they can get free meals.

And?

>>508197106
You type and speak in generalizations like a shill. Every single one of them gets deported, that's what Americans voted for.
Corporate businesses don't deserve a cut out because they want a little extra profit over hiring US labor.

>>508197106
>They remain in the United States for such a short period
Incorrect, In Trumps initial statement he was talking about these people working for 20-30 years plus.
>because they already self deport
No, they don't. see above.

>>508190838 (OP)
Buxom latina sex slaves are back on the menu boys

>>508197106
only about 1-2% of illegals are farm hands.

>>508197270
Trump and his farmer donors and the general state of usaean imperialism don't give a shit about what you or I vote, and you certainly strike everyone as a person who ONLY thinks in generalisations.

>>508197208
>rapey

*taps sign*>>508196742

>>508190838 (OP)
Globohomo Zion don with another rug pull.

>>508197373
There are current 600k illegals working on farms
And 1M working in hospitality (restaurants and hotels).
These are criminals by their mere existence in the U.S

>>508190838 (OP)
The main problem with all of this, is that producing enough food is a matter of national security. We subsidize farmers to the tune of $30B a year. What they need to do is start a bracero program for the farms. Start vetting those already employed.

>>508197450
"Farmers"
These are corporate farms engaged in a modern slave trade that's even cheaper for them because there's no down payment(cartels take that for trafficking) and no residual housing, medicine, and food costs either.

>>508191820
Fuck off shill. Still voting Trump.

>you may own your slaves if you take care of them
okay Donald

>>508191198
His current stance depends on the last person he talked to.

>>508191452
Also he never said No New Wars Period. He said No New Wars UNLESS it’s to protect Israel.

>>508197106
You need to get out more often.

>>508191452
>illegals
>law-abiding people
you tarded or something?

>>508190838 (OP)
Like...own them? Based.

>>508196328
Trump has ALWAYS supported it, he just wanted it done legally. He has repeatedly said this and never hid that fact. Anyone who didn't understand that is retarded

>>508190838 (OP)
So just slavery Instead of indentured servitude

>>508190838 (OP)
>we're looking at doing something
>OMG DRUMPF IS TOTALLY DOING THIS THING I MADE UP
you lost, tranny

>>508191089
they have visa programs for this. they even let the beaners overstay them without any sort of enforcement. go to any area where there is an auto factory and its going to be 90% beaner from automakers importing mexicans on temporary work visas and they just stay.

>>508190838 (OP)

Reason why many farmers in the U.S. employ Hispanic workers is because most Americans don't want to work in those fields under arduous and really difficult conditions. But what would have been better is if those employees had entered the U.S. "legally" instead of just walking through the Southern border because Biden's administration was too lazy to process those immigrants.

Probably the best way to keep those immigrants from taking those really difficult farm jobs is for U.S. citizens to work those jobs.

>>508195011
>90% of them go back to Mexico
checked and bullshit

>>508199468
>he just wanted it done legally
now he doesnt even want that. lmao

>>508194935
that doesnt make it legal retard! KEK

>>508200799

The people from Latin America who want to work on farms in the U.S. should use the H-2A visa program. These people from Latin America are more important than those cow dung eating pajeets from South Asia/India that Elon Musk hires.

>>508201107
>>508200799

Forgot screenshot.

>>508190838 (OP)
Cool I love that America first means fighting Israels wars and giving farm jobs to illegals. what a country.

>>508201687

"giving farm jobs to illegals"

U.S. citizens don't want to work those really difficult farm jobs which is why U.S. farm owners rely on Hispanics and Latinos. If you really want less Hispanic immigrants working those farm jobs, then you will have to persuade U.S. citizens to work those jobs.

"America first means fighting Israels wars"

Nobody has been drafted yet. But if the conscription does happen, then Asmongold and his millions of supporters and the pajeets from India can be Israel's cannon fodder since they support Israel.

>>508190838 (OP)
I guess the people were right about TACO Trump

>>508201168
Did you think ICE was going after the legal ones?

>>508197997
he just like me fr fr

>>508200789
Kys kike. Americans will work it the pay isn’t there. Americans sweat there ass off working on off shore oil drills they’ll work a farm too. The pay isn’t there. Before you use that faggot logic “the price of food will go up” yeah and people that work real jobs like picking food will be able to pay for it. This idea we need to protect office jobs that serve as bureaucratic management is rooted in incrementalism that’s antithetical to the American people’s right to liberty. America was great when a man could go out and work the field afforded by manifest destiny so unless America decides to wipe out more farm land somewhere else and Americans can work it tax free to homestead it there is too many people. And yes people will work off hard to do it I know that’s hard for your kike mind to understand but someone people can work for themselves.

>>508202208
They don't want the jobs because the wages have been surpressed to slave levels because we allow illegal migrants by the millions you fucking shill

>>508197373
only 0.6% of the US population are trannies and you care about them quite a bit

>trump baits Lefty retards again
>meanwhile Homan continyes record deportations
fucking love this guy

>>508197997
correct

>>508201687
If they are giving them permits, doesn't that mean they aren't illegals anymore?
And it's idiotic arguments like this (yours) that make all the state measures seem progressive and cool by comparison. Because what the USA are doing by pogroming the mexicans is only ensuring labour discipline. The government is just ratifying the transformation of the seasonal visa to the visa that is tied to a specific employer, making it harder for the worker to unionise or demand as, if fired, he or she will be vulnerable to deportation.

*taps sign*>>508196742

>>508202841
>Trump: I won't deport illegals
>OMG the Left is in full damage control mode
Imagine coping this hard

>>508202956
>Trump: I won't deport illegals
except he didn't say that at all, you retarded fucking troon

>>508203033
>Trump: I won't deport these 2million illegals
>OMG the Left is in full damage control
I can't believe how many Ls the left is taking rn

>>508190838 (OP)
So...slavery?

>>508203176
he didn't say that either. and that's not what is happening.

>>508191452
>slave labor good because big corn says they'll go out of business otherwise

>>508203496
That's exactly what's happening.
There are 600k in farms, 1M+ in hospitality and we'll likely see him include construction as well which is another 1.5M.
ICE has been instructed to leave these places alone

>>508197300
Yeah, he's wrong. 90% of them leave. There's probably a few errant examples of them staying for a long time. Again, it's seasonal work. When the season is over they go back to Mexico. There's literally no reason to stay.

>>508197270
I don't disagree in principle but you live in a compromised system that operates by getting people who disagree about everything to agree. Are you personally going to go out and start murdering every Mexican you see? Even if you did, do you think you can kill 30million people by yourself? No? Ok, what's your solution then?

Obviously you prioritize deporting the worst offenders first. The ones we can all agree on.
>Murderers, rapists, career criminals
Then you go for the lower level workers who depress wages.
>Busboys, delivery men, retail, landscapers, etc.
Then you go for the welfare leeches. This is the hardest group to get rid of because the Democrats have been banking for decades on these people giving them a demographic shift and will spare no expense protecting them.
>Overweight women with their retarded children and DACA recipients.
Then you go for the agricultural pickers. But again, 90% OF THESE PEOPLE LEAVE OF THEIR OWN VOLITION EVERY WINTER. Deporting them will be a net negative every single time. Also, the GOP will lose some of its largest donors and support base, which means you end up with Democrats in charge and FULL UNCONDITIONAL AMNESTY AND CITIZENSHIP FOR EVERY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

>>508190838 (OP)

>>508205507
>Uhm actually it's good to not deport illegals
I have no idea why this triggers you
Did you not vote for Trump?

>>508205943
Strawman, snownigger.

>>508206394
What do you think is a strawman?
You're defending Trump not deporting illegals.
Why do you want these criminals to stay in your country?

>>508202601

Alabama farmer says "if you want less immigrants, stop eating."
https://youtu.be/q4gzps0lm1E

"There's an Hispanic man who makes $100 a day, if you can keep up with him, you can make $100 a day."

"Farmers say that many Americans are not physically fit and simply don't work fast enough."
https://youtu.be/a7q3ofdJRKc

News Journalist: "Why not hire unemployed Americans?"
Farm owners: "They don't want to come out here and work in this... extreme conditions. A hundred plus degree temperatures, dust, hard work."
News Journalist: "What if you paid them more?"
Farm Owner: "It doesn't matter... we pay some of the highest wages for Farm workers in the nation... and they won't come out."

https://youtu.be/MI1pMmjbPr8

>>508202628

Biden allowed those illegal immigrants in because he wanted more Democrat voters.

>>508202494

Let ICE continue focusing on the violent illegal immigrants.

>>508190838 (OP)
I cant believe I voted for this retard. wtf was a thinking

>>508206560
I don't. See
>>508205507

>>508207360

Trump closed the borders and is getting rid of the most violent illegal immigrants. That's good enough. Just let the nonviolent illegal immigrants do the seasonal farm work and let them go home. Next time they come back, they need to get into the U.S. legally.

>>508207430
Ah I see, it's the cope that "Trump will get to them eventually".
Nothing he has said indicates that
that's completely made up cope you're using to justify why Trump's betrayal is okay

>>508190838 (OP)
Why should this be a problem if the immigrants being brought in are model citizens? the Democrats are probably trafficking all manner of criminals into the country under the guise of them being hard working farm workers. I bet a lot of them have never even been near a farm.

>>508207556
>let illegal immigrants stay and work
>unemployment for Americans plummet
kys immediately

>>508207907
>if the immigrants being brought in are model citizens
They illegally crossed the border.
They're criminals.

>>508190838 (OP)
So he’s not just deporting illegals he’s fixing legal immigration

What a dick.

Fucking dumb twats think this is a bad thing

>>508190838 (OP)
Good, reputable.
>Illegally housing and hiring illegals.
Trump tards are honestly more dumb than the Harris voters.

>>508208620
You want more browns in your country?
I guess this is great news then

>>508207878
Biden let in 20,000,000 illegal immigrants.
You're asking me to get upset about possible work visas for 500,000 seasonal fruit pickers. It's not going to work.

>>508195766
>No one moves posts like we do folks, believe me

>>508209023
>actually it's good to not deport some illegals
It was 7Milli illegals and Trump has only deported 200k.
Why you think him slowing down his deportations even more is a good thing, I'll probably never understand.

>work visas for 500,000 seasonal fruit
Oh, you're one of those "immigration is cool so long as it's legal" types.
It's actually closer to 600k + 1.2M in hospitality + 1.5M in construction

Lots of coping migapedes itt

>>508195536
Yeah because traditionally the US jails many CEOs. Especially under Trump. Delusional faggot.

>>508191452
he did this bait and switch the first time too

>>508195011
yeah and they take their money with them back to mexico
and don't pay taxes
you fucking retard

>>508209358
Who is your candidate?

>>508210796
>Deport all illegals!
>I mean.. did you actually want that?

>>508211222
I don't think I'm American

>>508190838 (OP)
>>508190927

>illegal brownoids can stay
>Whites can go fight for Israel
orange nigger

>>508191541
NO
ILLEGAL
IS
ILLEGAL

>>508194195
Because you don't get paid, we've built an expectation of price and demand in this country centered around exploiting pseudo-slave labor. The farmer will tell you he pays the migrants "good" and then bemoan the poor work ethic of whites while leaving out the multitudes of worker's rights violations his current scheme relies on. The whites will balk at the threatened rising cost of food as they are sold the lie of small time family farms who "can't" afford to pay market value wages. Meanwhile the multi-billion dollar mega-farms quietly expand when nobody is watching. The simple argument is to have them answer why they won't give them all citizenship then? I hear these fags talk all the time about how their workers are "family" so I ask why don't you fight for your "family's" rights then? Why not fight for your workers to have the same rights and entitlements as everyone else? Would it possibly have something to do with Jose suddenly NOT wanting to work 14 straight hours a day for a shit pay when he is suddenly entitled to overtime and health insurance? They scatter like roaches everytime, zero answers lots of excuse "oh but my rental scheme where I give them cheapish housing makes up for it", "oh but the labor is suler hard whites just wouldn't do it", "oh but they just want to take care of their families", "oh but they all say they love working for me (under threat of deportation)".

>>508212373
unironic truth nuke

>>508190838 (OP)
>no immigration bill
>border wall not even in the realm of discussion
>no DOGE cuts
>more anti-semitism laws
>war with Iran for the benefit of Israel
Fucked
Around
Fell f
Or it again

>>508197106
Do you not have ears? There's not a day goes by where I can be outside on my property without hearing their bagpipes blaring, every Latin American flag should have a leaf blower on it

>>508191452
so i was right it was always ACTUALLY about cheap slave labor that you didn't want to compel people to pay a living wage for, thats what this all comes down to, none of you wanted to pay a living wage to a legal citizen for this work IT HAS TO BE DONE BY ILLEGALS to remain as cheap and accessible as it is now, you can't have avocados raising to high in price can you?

>>508213258
you all are so pathetically predictable you weren't going to force farmers to hire american because they can't afford to, so you are turning a blind eye to illegal hiring and work conditions + other horrible practices that happen to those illegals because its a completely legal grey area the police won't touch, who cares about those people making 1$ an hour in california or some other state right?

>>508190838 (OP)
That's literally the only way it should be tolerated.

>>508213643
those illegals won't have rights, won't have competitive wages, otherwise oops sorry you and your family are deported back to guatemala better do what you say, thats what we do here in america right legal slavery.

>>508211381
So you don't have any alternative? You're just going to bitch about edge issues in some foreign country that will never affect you in any way?

Oh wait it does affect you because your country cheats on tariffs and NATO contributions so you have an incentive to get Trump out of office. Silly me, this whole time I thought you were arguing in good faith.

>>508190993
imagine saying this exact sentence to a bush voter in 2001

>>508190838 (OP)
TACO

really, is he going to hold prominent Republican donor Craig Lang responsible for the illegals he hired?

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/08/21/mollie-tibbetts-undocumented-immigrant-accused-killing-worked-farm-owned-republican-iowa-craig-lang/1059482002/

ahahahahaahahahahahhhahahhHAHAHAH I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS

HE ALREADY KEKED OUT ON IMMIGRATION AND WE'RE NOT EVEN A YEAR IN

>>508190838 (OP)
>what if all the foreigners we let stay work the back breaking work for nothing. They dont even need to live near us, they can all be kept on the farms
Man, imagine if slavery wasnt a taboo. People seem to really want it, but dont want to admit it. They want every benefit that comes from it, but not the stigma.

>>508214057
they blew the ISE budget in like 4 months.

>>508214066
the more things change the more they stay the same, now slavery is getting dressed up so it looks palatable to the public so its alright again, america is back baby.

>>508190838 (OP)
Trump has cucked on all of his campaign promises in 5 months. Impressive speedrun.

>>508213643
I don't care about some guy picking grapes in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere who is 90% likely to leave the US before year end. My concern lies primarily with criminal gangs and welfare leeches that have make every single American town and city exponentially worse with each new arrival.

The illegal immigrant population in America is 30million. Over 1million foreign workers left the US in Q1. You're obsessing over 500,000 fruit pickers. I'm not going to vote for a pro-amnesty for 30milllion people Democrat because Donald Trump is considering temporary work visas for 500,000 people. Get a fucking clue.

>>508214362
>I don't care about some guy picking grapes in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere who is 90% likely to leave the US before year end
yeah thats my problem with the entire thing, everyone turning a blind eye to legal slavery.

>>508190838 (OP)
Employers should 100% be responsible for what they import. If you import a murderer, you should be an accessory.

>>508203856
>ICE has been instructed to leave these places alone
no, it hasn't.

>>508214555

Based

>>508191936
Dox farmers who hire illegals and MAGA will do the rest. I'm sick of political extremism. They all need to be set on eachother. Left and Right.

>>508190838 (OP)
I swear to whatever Diety that rules this shithole planet tht THIS was the perfect moment for the US to stop using slave labor an this nigger just dropped the ball,
Where the wall?
Where is the massive deportation?
Why must we share land with amerimutts? Why not just build the fucking wall an leave us alone??

>>508190838 (OP)
slavey?

>>508191089
>Fun fact, there are about 1million illegals working in hospitality and 600k working on farms
another fun fact. before the election Trump said he is aware of the official number from biden's DHS on 600k illegals with criminal records. but as of june, only 200k have been deported. at this rate, it will take only another year to even get the criminal records out. the "largest deportation in history" has turned into "the biggest lie of trump's reelection campaign."

>>508196206
No white man is going to work in a field you fucking imbecile

>>508190838 (OP)

TRUMP AMNESTY INCOMING

>>508196742
You sound like a faggot. How many cocks do you pleasure in a day? 10, 20, more?

>>508214908
i despise you in ways i have a hard time putting into words.

>>508214908
If your people don't work the land, you don't deserve the nation, desu.

>group A gets an exemption
>group B gets an exemption
>group C gets an exemption
>...
MIGA !!

>>508214908
yeah, not for $10/hour like an illegal would

>>508214438
>slavery
They voluntarily walk into the country on their own you gigantic fag. And every year they voluntarily walk right back home. They do this because the wages are relatively much higher than what they are paid in Mexico for identical work in an area with a cartoonishly high homicide rate.

Or did you think the Africans took their own boats to come here and pick cotton?

>>508214849
Concern posting faggot.

>>508214718
Because boomers are cucks. Instead of investing in technology and breed strong sons they rather have brown men near their families

>>508215131
Yes, pay American wages, unemployment insurance, health insurance, vacation and sick time, and enjoy spending a $1000 for a weeks worth of groceries.

>>508215170
you fucking piece of shit they don't have a choice, they work for places that hire illegals and those people that run those "businesses" hold that over their heads because they aren't legal any slip ups and your life is over back over the wall and try your luck again with the coyotes, right better do what your "responsible party" says otherwise what happens to grandma? you think thats a choice they are making or is it the only option they have because of the legal framework in the united states that allows indentured servitude, you tell me man looks like slavery from where im sitting fuck face.

>>508214908
Well it's easy when niggers get gibs and free everything lmao

>>508195011
And then they shit out an anchor baby.
Decades of agriculture innovation has been lost, its honestly embarrassing, instead those investments went into real estate speculation. The fucking dutch absolutely mog us in farming tech despite burgers having the most farmland after hindpoostan

>>508214908
How the fuck can you claim to be perfection incarnate when you niggers can't build a farm without slaves labor?

I swear it is impossible for amerimutts to work for yourselves, first it was the niggers then irish then Italians then spics, when are you gonna work for YOURSELF without slaves?

>>508215379
so our economy falls apart without illegal slave labor?

>>508190838 (OP)
I hope that means they have to buy health insurance and have to pay payroll taxes since they'll probably end up becoming citizens and collecting social security
And even if they don't we can't have them favored over people who are citizens and will be collecting social security (theoretically)

>>508215613
Not really, most immigrants are living using gibs. Sure makelele might work your field for 400 euros but after a few months he will ask to get his 1,500 euros gibs

i have come to deeply hate this country and its people, i need to step away from this shit, i can't stand reading this stuff from you people anymore today.

>>508191452
>it was never about removing that massive anchor on your wages
MIGA & KYS

>>508215553
We whites have 50 times the IQ of your average brown sub-human. We create art, civilizations, technology... Were too far advanced and evolved for the endeavors of mindless manual labor.
That's where you browns come in.

>>508215613
God forbid that ever happens (ironically since Jews don't give a fuck about the US)
The entire American work culture is centered about being slaves for slave wages if any wage at all
That explains why Kikes an Good goys are so hellbent against zoomers chase they are the only ones fighting back against the slave master

>>508211301
>LOCK HER UP
>Day 1 as POTUS
>We don't really care about that do we? We don't

>>508190838 (OP)
Biden would gave given $500 tickets to the workers and made them stay while generous Tump gives free rides home if you don't want to work.
https://youtu.be/9igMzTj8DzI

>>508215860
Can you define whites?
You are LITERALLY using Liberal agenda Talking points

>>508215613
Can you afford $1000 a week for groceries? Or $700,000 for a 1000 sqft house? No? That's what you'll get without cheap labor, labor no "American" is going to do without $30 an hour and expensive benefits

>>508190838 (OP)
TACO of a TACO of a TACO

>>508197632
It takes zero illegals to harvest corn, potato, basedbean, wheat, barley.
Illegals are here for cash crops working on plantations. Illegals actually lower the total caloric supply as without illegals more land would be corn and potatoes, the kings of calorie per acre along with rice. Not fucking almonds, kale, blueberries, etc

>>508216020
again, so our economy falls apart without illegal slave labor?

>>508216187
Yes. And you can blame corporations, Jews, and billionaires for it.

>>508216020
Weird in the Midwest the builders are still 90% white and home prices aren't any different. So why lie?
T. Tradie

>>508194611
Yes but they don't have to live in the country they come from and can possibly become enjoyers and customers in the new country.

>>508207190
>"There's an Hispanic man who makes $100 a day, if you can keep up with him, you can make $100 a day."
And if that "hispanic man" (illegal alien) isn't there, then that faggot farmer has to pay you the actual market wage. It's not eat less, it's put this nigger in jail and send his slaves BACK.

>>508216020
>Can you afford $1000 a week for groceries? Or $700,000 for a 1000 sqft house?
this is already reality in california where most of the illegals live

>>508216267
ill blame the farmers too for hiring them

>>508216020
>>508216267
I don't think you understand how ready a significant portion of the country is to put "people" like you into forever-torture programs. And everyone related to you.

>>508215893
he explained later that he didn't like the idea of a former First Lady going to prison because it makes America look like a third world shithole where every new government prosecutes the previous one. i disagree with that, but i get it. it makes sense from a boomer pov.

>>508216389
That's because of your communist state government taxing. Get rid of the illegals and your prices will soar even higher.

>>508216561
>>508216561
Yeah there's always some cope that instantly materializes when he finally gets the thing he wants which precludes him from doing the exact fucking thing he campaigned on.
MIGA
And there's always a horde of these braindead niggers to rim his ass while he does it

HHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
Clownworld

>>508216650
that's really the only major campaign promise he ever broke, so i can let it go. not sure why you're so assblasted about it though. hillary wasn't your first lady, so why do you care if she goes to prison or not?

>>508190838 (OP)
How many times has he done this now to get them to let their guard down then backtracked and ICE rushes in once they are ready? This is like the 5th time they feel for this shit.

>>508216346
You don't get it, thats actually based! $75 of that $100 leaves the local and national economy so jose can send it to his wife where she lives like a queen. Its an unironic RAPE of small town USA. The land is used and produces money for mega farm inc goes to shareholders, the employees income all leaves the small town but the town still has to maintain the infrastructure. I also imagine meat plants c.uck small towns getting tax breaks then still use illegals KEK.

>>508216845
>only promise he ever broke
pffttthahhhahahahahah

>>508216845
>that's really the only major campaign promise he ever broke, so i can let it go.
Ukraine war ends day 1?
No more new wars while he sends the entire fucking US military back to the middle east?
Just fuck off, your shilling is shit, tell your boss to give you a bullet between your eyes instead of a check

>>508216624
>If 10 million illegal Californians get deported housing prices will go up
Get a load of this fucking retard

>>508190838 (OP)
>they can take responsibility for the people that they hire
Including crimes against the White people of this land.
Farmers are not farmers anymore.
They are agri-businessmen, the welfare queens of the DOA. Fun fact: Food stamps are not a poor subsidy, they are a FARM subsidy.
There is no such thing as a poor farmer in America.
There are agri-businessmen and bommer hobby farmers. Both are responsible for driving down wages of other Americans.

>>508216267
>>508216525
The thing is that a single farmer has hard time surviving if they handicap themselves so that's when people realize that you need to actually enforce rules for everyone or you end up with shit tier capitalism. Jews and jew-minded people call this "being clever" when you start using back-handed tricks and drag others to your level, then you have to spiral into more back-handed tricks. That's supposedly the nobel prize intelligence in play, making a society no one wants.

>>508216533
>Slave labor
>Slave
No one is forcing them to come here and work. No one is forcing them to come back the same farm year after year to work.
They know what they're getting paid, especially the seasonal ones who keep returning to the same farm. They can leave whenever they want.
Most of them have no intentions on staying here. The come here to work for money, money that to white people wouldn't add up to much. But, for them $100 is like a million dollars back where they're from.

>>508216845
Now you obviously have low reading comprehension so let's go slowly
WHERE IS GODDAMN WALL?!!
WHERE IS THE GODDAMN END OF UKRAINE SHIT PROXY WAR?!!
AND WHERE IS THE CUT FOR GLOBOHOMO?!!

>>508216845
>that's really the only major campaign promise he ever broke
Holy keks of cope

The year is 2032
Mega farmers/plantations are all democrat and they have painted their tractors pride flag while union halls are all Republican and hold a prayer every morning

>>508190838 (OP)
I’m just voting whatever party is the worst for America at this point. Trump is drawing out things until we are less white. Race war now, accelerate.

>>508217231
>Most of them have no intentions on staying here. The come here to work for money, money that to white people wouldn't add up to much. But, for them $100 is like a million dollars back where they're from.
YOU STUPID MOUTHBREATHING PIECE OF SHIT
All that money instantly leaves the economy. The wages for that job are depressed to fucking nothing. A US citizen in the US is now out of work.
There's no way you don't understand these things. The only way you present these arguments is if you are an evil piece of shit shilling for things you know are terminal cancer to any nation.

>>508217231
>Most aren't staying
>Trump says he's talking about the ones that have been here for 20 years
Which is it?

>>508216845
Epstein files?

This is how my family became citizens through Ronald Reagan. My parents heard rumors about amnesty for workers, so they flew to Chicago to work and got it in 2 years. After 10 years of being good people with zero crime, they got citizenship and so did my oldest brother

>>508217453
We're talking about farm workers not hotel maids

>>508190838 (OP)
Well at least we got war with Iran

>>508217529
https://www.youtube.com/live/-8yTm1bNM9Q

>>508217405
He would understand if it was in his job. There are 20 million jeets that could do his job at 1/2 the wage and the only thing holding them back is current immigration rules and a fuck ton of ocean

>>508217405
Americans won't pick tomatoes or blueberries or anything else. You're delusional if you think Americans are going line up to work in fields.

>>508216951
i don't count obvious rhetorical hyperbole as a legitimate campaign promise. we haven't gotten in a war yet either, and i'm not sure if "no new wars" was even a campaign promise he made anyway. maybe it was, but i don't remember it.
>>508217240
a lot of it has been built. funding for the wall comes from Congress. border crossings are down, so the goal was accomplished anyway. doge cuts were made, and are in the process of being made permanent by Congress. he did what he reasonably could to end the Ukraine war and minimized our future involvement, so i count that as a win.

>>508217681
>Americans won't pick tomatoes or blueberries or anything else. You're delusional if you think Americans are going line up to work in fields.
They picked them before. They will pick them again. Your avocado is going to have to cost a lot more though because the person who picked it will actually be able to afford to buy one again.
You are at your core an evil piece of shit. Accept this and understand this. The arguments you are presenting are purely evil.
>>508217717
Golem

>>508190838 (OP)
RFK's corn syrup hate is going to cost our agricultural industry a lot.

We need more uses for corn, not less. High fructose corn sryup needs to implemented in other areas. Corn fueling needs to make a come back, fund more research.

Because all of those acres of cornfields will become useless, they are not edible (they are but they are not sweet like sweet corn strains) we will have acres of unused land that the poor farmers will have to sell to Tyson or the other big corporations. You don't want Bill Gates and China to have more of our farm land do you???

>>508217529
Are you being paid to shill here for trump or did you get out of ptg containment

>>508217461
he was always pretty clear that he didn't want those released. anyway, i don't know why anyome cares. both sides have had custody over those files, so any incriminating shit on either side is long gone.

>>508217529
It's farm workers and hospitality, so yes hotel maids

>>508190838 (OP)
Its a good system. Imagine this the employer could house them in a small housing unit, feed them, they would have limited movements, maybe for the most dedicated employees a small wage, pocket money or advantages. They could work under contract for a given number of years, at the end they would be free to return to their country of find another employer, you could also sell those contract, effectively transfering the employee.

With a bit of tuning it could work, you could also expand this system to natives.

>>508217911
I can't tell if you're making a slavery joke or serious

>>508217827
picked radishes for 15 years but never bothered to become legal
wonder why
could it be it benefits her more to stay illegal?
why?

>>508193570
It's getting hard to tell the difference between hook baiters and MIGA copers around here

>>508190838 (OP)
Soo.. serfdom?

>>508217529
You have been absolutely BTFO by data from the cebter of migration studies. APOLOGIZE or be gone shill

>>508217231
>51% of undocumented farm workers have been here over 15 years that this bill would have helped

Did you not know your side brags about these statistics on their website. Author is prolly someone you know Raquel Rosenbloom. Be gone kike

>>508217496
Viva La Raza

>>508218005
>slavery
The big words already, we're not 1800 anymore ffs. No we could name this system something like Integration Labor Program, Adaptive Service Initiative or something like that. Enrolment would be voluntary of course.

>>508217858
That’s pure cope and you know it

>>508218924
Its worse their body counts as a full person a census not 3/5. Massively inflating the power of California

>>508212856
The border wall and immigration funding are included in the big beautiful bill.

>>508219103
so you think Trump had absolute control over incriminating info on himself and is allowing it to just sit there? he never destroyed it? or let's take this further. let's say there is incriminating info on Trump, why wouldn't he just release fake files that don't incriminate him? how would you or anyone else know the difference? the sad fact is that there is no incriminating shit left in those files, if there ever was any at all. they are a red herring for dumb people to pretend to give a shit about so they don't pay attention to stuff that actually matters.

>>508190838 (OP)
Imagine voting for Trump and thinking things would change.

>>508190838 (OP)
>Trump 2015
Every Mexican illegal is a rapist and murder and criminal.
>Trump 2025
All the illegals dindu nuffin and we're only gonna deport .00001%. We need the rest for cheap slave labor (let's be real aint' nobody paying more than $2 pesos an hour for picking oranges.)

>>508219709
I’m not reading this sperg out wordwall, just keep huffing your copium.

>>508190838 (OP)
"looking at" = doing nothing

>>508220425
okay

>>508190993
Corn welfare

>>508190838 (OP)
This would be based if you could legally punish your workers for misbehaving. Sorry Juarez, but you didn't pick enough almonds today. I'm going to have to sell your daughters' nudes to make up the difference.

>>508217858
>he was always pretty clear that he didn't want those released
God damn, why do you feel the need to lie so much?

>>508220847
go watch the actual interview, he's fine with the others and then is immediately hesitent when she asks about the epstein files. he clearly doesn't want them out there, whatever he is reported as saying.

>>508221129
I would be hesitant too if I was in the files.
Fact is he has said on multiple occasions that he would release them.
I don't care if he was worried about being exposed for a pedo or not

>>508221320
if he ever was in the files, that information is long gone, so what would be the point in releasing them?

>>508221485
Sure let's move the goalpost
If all the information is gone, why is he so afraid of releasing it?

>>508215170
Please never post again

>>508216020
Answer the question you fucking homo

>>508190838 (OP)
If a business model requires illegal labor to break even that means the business is unsustainable.

If not then what is the long term plan? Eternal illegal immigration? Maybe let farms sell crack cocaine to break even?

>>508221581
because he is in the files, but not in any actually incriminating way. that's how kompromat works. it doesn't matter if you're guilty or not, the implication is enough. everyone's name is in there, but there's nothing actually incriminating. he doesn't want to release it because idiots will take the mere presence of a name as proof of guilt.

>>508222248
The end goal is for all first line workers and first line managers to be illegal in all industries and some of these tards here would unironically defend it

>>508222306
Only reason to not release it is because the information is worse than not knowing

>>508222660
the problem is that your idea makes no sense. Trump has control over information that directly incriminates him, but he hasn't destroyed it or released an altered version that exonerates him... for some reason. everyone else, including his enemies, had that information as well, but none of them ever released it either. it just exists and is being kept safe by the very people who would have every power and reason to either use it, or destroy it.

>>508222982
The only thing that doesn't make sense is not releasing it if there is nothing bad in it.
If there is something bad, then it makes sense to not release it

>>508190927

>>508223181
it also makes sense if the "bad" things in it are just implications that the media would use against you and your family, despite being complete bullshit. if there's something bad in it then it only makes sense that it was destroyed years ago, and it makes sense to release an altered version of it. the fact that there hasn't been a release is proof there's nothing real there.

>>508191198
Showing signs of advanced dementia

>>508190838 (OP)
Looks like slavery is back on the menu, boys!

>>508191452
The "Economy" is a handful of wealthy jews who are destroying the nation for a few dollars more when they already own 90% of the monetary supply.

>>508223462
Let's assume there is nothing concrete nailing Trump.
All he's doing is protecting the other pedophiles that's in there

>>508215397
I don't give a shit, they aren't American. Tell them to write their Jewish president I'm sure she'll get right on it.

>>508221588
Beep beep it's me again. See you again tomorrow!

>>508190838 (OP)
>FARMS ARE NEW SANCTUARY CITIES CAUSING MILLIONS OF MIGRANTS TO MIGRATE INTO FARMING TOWNS GOD BLESS

>>508224930
>MILLIONS OF BROWNS MIGRATES INTO SMALL WHITE FARM TOWNS BLACKING THE LAST BASTION OF WHITENESS
>T.....THANKS TRUMPS.. T. BOOMER GRANNY

>>508224930
Now all the aspiring illegals know how to get into the country and not be deported

>>508190838 (OP)
wow, completely cucked and legacy into toilet. his children will pay for this

>>508193570
everyone is a migrant that comes to the country, retard. if they came illegally then they are also an illegal alien.

>>508190838 (OP)
finally, someone in this orange retards cabinet made a smart decision

>>508226130
The common understanding is that 'migrants' are here temporarily. Most of these fruit pickers aren't here longer than a year. They "migrate" like birds.

You can deport them, but it's a waste of energy because they never intended to stay long.

>>508226458
>actually it's good to not deport illegals
MIGAs flipflop just so happens to be perfectly in line with Trumps whims

>>508190838 (OP)
LMAOOOOO
What happened to the illegal means illegal? Hiring illegals is illegal.

Must be tough being /ptg/ and having to do cope olympics when Trump said he'd go light on the farmers/hotels who hire illegals, getting giddy when he said that he'd resume the raids on them, then them defaulting back to this. Shame the shit about "tanking the pain for the long-term health of the country" was utter bullshit and they're fine with 10000000 illegals as long as they're in ""critical"" areas.

Mass deportations are never going to happen with this pussy shit.

>>508190838 (OP)
fake news as usual
i wont bother checking