Are culture wars (gender identity, immigration, etc.) used to divert attention from class struggle?

>>508194703 (OP)
What's the deal with this gook eating ritual. Just put the fucking food on a plate and eat it.

>>508194703 (OP)
Yes. Anything else?

>>508195277
What's the deal with jewish rituals like sucking bleeding baby penises, getting bits chopped off your dick and raping children in underground tunnels?

if by class struggle you mean jews, yes

>>508194703 (OP)
Occupy Wall Street scared them so they rammed cultural marxism down the throat of the Dumb Left.

>>508194703 (OP)
>class struggle
That's the problem, culture wars and all the diversion have completely put an end to any actual struggle. People need to wake the fuck up and realise that as long as they're being used as cattle by the elite they will never, ever have the power to change anything.

>>508194703 (OP)
Yes. It used to be race baiting but the culture war bait crosses racial lines and enables the grifter to get more votes from it.

>>508195635
it worked with the dumb right and the fake gender war too
you think that whole women hate thing is grassroot?
it's textbook CIA

>>508195635
And the Dumb Right rose to meet them in every argument and took every bit of bait. This isn't a one sided issue, it's a stupid cunts everywhere issue and effort needs to be made to get attention back on the goal of dismantling the 1%.

>>508195758
Oh okay the elite. Okay

>>508194703 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>508194703 (OP)
>not hating everyone who isn't directly a part/immediately supportive of your tribe
ISHYGDDT

>>508194703 (OP)
Other way around.
Commies invent fake shit like 'the proletariat' in order to cover up the actual sexual, racial, and cultural, struggles within and between groups of humanity.
A car mechanic and a tech support caller at your cable company have nothing in common and no alliance will ever exist between them. That is why every socialist nation has been philosophically empty, and why nation reverted to standard nationalism in order to create a sense of identity.

>>508195635
>cultural marxism
tfw you have to make up a phrase to demonize an economic ideology that has nothing yo do with trannies or immigration

>>508195635
Occupy Wall Street being turned into some lionized heroic movement is retarded.
It was a fucking joke when it happened because it was nothing but old hippies sitting around a public park making vague protests about nothing in particular.

>>508196354
they have enough in common that they provide a service for their community and their bosses want to treat them like shit to make $5 more dollars. view yourself as someone who contributes to society for once and maybe you can see eye to eye with people

>>508194703 (OP)
She's ugly.

>class struggle
Reminder that there are only two classes: Bilderberg invitees and human cattle and this is a fixed, permanent feature of civilization.

>>508196450
no one views it as heroic, it’s wildly criticized for being an ideological failure, and no, the claim that the govt squashed it does not indicate it was “successful”. a mob of people in the finance district scared the bankers.

>>508194703 (OP)
100%
No man, CEO, Shareholder or FUCKALL should make 1000 times his workers wage.

>>508196354
holy shit its been a while since i read a take on communism that was actually this retarded. Surely this deserves some award or something.

>>508196146
Yes. There's more than just jews fucking us over, and the one thing that gives all of these cunts power over us is their position of extreme wealth. Now you need to explain to me logically why you would directly call out the jewish portion if it will cost you potential allies in the fight against the elite? Because victory against the 'elite' is a victory against the jews.

>>508194703 (OP)
In part, they are issues on their own too though, see the transgender cult.

>>508196592
We told everyone that mk ultra was a dumb fucking idea

And there they go look at them talk some sense into them anything they made it as easy as giving someone likes

>>508194703 (OP)
Solid 0/10

>>508195439
>>508195758
>>508196011
>>508196036
>>508196383
holy shill raid batman
if you faggots could pretend not to be violently anti-White for even a minute, you'd find a lot more success

>>508194703 (OP)
>i eat raw shit without a fork
>i'm so civilized
lel, i bet you'd consider a retard eating blended shit with a straw while meditating in upside down yoga position a pinnacle of civilization

>>508196532
She looks elegant and has better manner than any white wymin

>>508194703 (OP)
Marxian analysis is obsolete in the West. Industrial capitalists don’t exist any more, and neither does a proletariat of factory workers. “Capitalism” comes down to financial control (of markets, of the state) by Jews.

>>508194703 (OP)
No, class war is a meme that only the dumbest of retards care about

>>508196931
>memeflag
if cultural marxism had anything to do with marxism, it would just be called marxism. kys brownoid.

>>508194703 (OP)
Class hoax is a diversion from the jq

>>508196488
That means absolutely nothing.
No one will ever see, "this guy also does stuff for other people for money", as the foundation for a shared brotherhood.
That is vapid and vacuous.

Culture creates a shared sense of identity. How you do things, why you do things, what you see as important, religosity, etc.
Sex results in two equally sized groups that almost always feel closer to one another than either does to the opposite sex.
Race, beyond any discussion of biological differences, basic appearance and phenotypes result in in-groups and out-groups where people congregate around those that look like themselves.
These are all primal and deep rooted in the psychology of humans as hairless apes.

Your shared sense of identity in having to work for a living never actually matters to anyone because it doesn't connect to any fundamental aspects of human consciousness, and it relies on people trying to find some common ground with utter strangers multiplied by a million for their entire 'socio-economic class'.
Again, this is exactly why every socialist state has reverted to conventional nationalism in order to forge a sense of shared identity.

>>508194703 (OP)
Basically, yes. At least in America

>>508197137
>weimerican calling others brown

>>508194703 (OP)
They are class struggle. Christ.

>>508195587
right answer

>>508196931
>jew trembling in fear at the thought of another Occupy
There is nothing more pro-white than dismantling the very thing stopping us from uniting and exercising our will. If you have a brain memeflaggot, I would ask you to point out what I said that could remotely be construed as anti-white.

>>508196931
die nazi scum

>>508197365
>opposition to immigration is a diversion
anything else, kike?

>>508197449
There you go again, being violently anti-white

Luigi did nothing wrong

>>508197603
>retarded kike confirmed
Who do you think is letting these people in in the first place you stupid hooknosed faggot? You can be opposed to it all you like, but unless you cut out the cancerous command structure that restrains us while rolling out the red carpet for invaders, you are NEVER going to achieve anything.

>>508197670
Your forefathers are rolling over in their graves as you defend these fascist collaborators.

History will not be kind to you.

You sold out America to fascists and exchange you get NOTHING.

NO HEALTHCARE NO HOUSING NO JOB SECURITY NOTHING!!1!

>>508197137
Cultural Marxism and CRT is taking the standard Marxist economic framework and applying it to society outside of monetary exchange.
Replacing 'capitalists' with 'White Men', and the 'Proles' with 'BIPOC LBGT2SXYZ$%^'.
The desire is to throw down the ruling White Male caste and redistribute their social and cultural power to others and usher in an end of history where the Blacks and Gays have the power they deserve.
And this is done instead of through already dumb shit like trying to create a global union, by attacking White Male cultural products, philosophical products, hobbies, etc., and either devaluing them or trying to infiltrate them and take them over.

Whites and Chinks are both bugmen. Just different flavours.

>>508194703 (OP)
i'd rather be a peasant in Japan than the US desu

>>508194703 (OP)
>Garlic butter
Nice

>>508197845
You say this like commies aren't the biggest proponents of open borders. Who instead of just making crass economic arguments like libertarians do, actually think it is a form of justice to let a billion thirdies into their country.
Lemme guess, you're going to shill guys like Bernie Sanders from 15 years ago, like he didn't cuck out the second some fat Mexican bitch shamed him a bit on the point?
Most actual commies and anarchists today are closer to being totally pro open border than they are calling for any kind of immigration control and restriction.

>>508196623
What specifically am I wrong about?
Be clear and exact.

>>508195277
Shut your baby penis suckling mouth jew
How dare you question the nips
Not gods chooses

>>508194703 (OP)
Always has been, but it skyrocketed after Occupy Wall Street. OWS scared the rich, so they amped up the identity bullshit on the left and the culture war bullshit on the right.

>>508198292
Chosen*

>>508196450
> it was nothing but old hippies sitting around a public park

It was the opposite.
65% of the participants were Millenials.
It was basically the largest unified gathering against the system by a young group in the recent history and it scared the absolute fuck out of the suits.
This is why they went in so hard on Millenials and wanted to stamp out the rebellious spirit.
That's the closest the higher ups have come to being in real danger in a very long time.

>>508194703 (OP)
culture war topics were invented so leftists would stop fighting the system and instead fight to defend it
they're hypercapitalist ideas aimed at exploiting people

>>508197845
Listen here you retarded limey faggot, immigration is the single greatest weapon your (((elites))) wield against the general populace. If our countries were still homogeneous, it would not be even half as difficult to disinter a rotten aristocracy. It is the central issue above all others. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY PUSH FOR IT SO HARD?

I resigned my position in the Sierra Club 30 years ago when they removed opposition to immigration from the national charter. This shit didn't begin yesterday, Zoomer.

>>508198230
>You say this like commies aren't the biggest proponents of open borders.
Where did I say there weren't? Where did I say I was a communist? I'm a citizen of a nation whos ruling classes (read - the extremely wealthy) have sold us out to every type of brownoid and kike under the sun. Every attempt by the populace to chase illegals away from landing on our beaches is met with force from the state, every honest action the white natives of this land take to keep what is ours is hamstrung and nuked by the state. You can sit here wanking over muh economic theories and arguing about commies and nazis until the end of time but the only way whites are ever going to reclaim their nations is to take the financial power away from the kikes and traitors who currently have it. Delete that wealth for all I care, it simply has to be removed from these 'elites' so they can no destroy us no further.

>>508196450
Yes it was idealists with no plans just holding signs in the street, but the risk of the masses focusing their efforts and energy towards the class of people who print fake shares (dole foods, global links, Overstock, GameStop, many more etc) and steal wealth scared the powerful into instructing their media arms into mass gaslighting.

Peopling being rich isn’t bad, the wealth engine that followed the steam engine has been incredible for the species, but the mob didn’t magically disappear in the second half of the 20th century, they merged with U.S. intelligence, and the ones who refused went to jail. So now the corruption and cancer sits at the very core of all institutions and is basically impossible to root out at this point.

>>508198735
>Nooooo don't close the window
>the endless waves of mosqitos coming in must be killed first!
With people as stupid as you, it's no wonder we're in the state we are. You intentions are good but you're a fucking mongoloid.

>>508197947
>commie retard lectures Americans about what their forefathers hated
Lmao. Maybe my forefathers shouldn't have sold us out to jews and flooded our nations with migrants, then. OH well.

Your platform involves getting Americans to give up guns, money, and religion. Our platform arming them to the teeth. Good luck buddy.

>>508194703 (OP)
No. They are part of the class struggle. Progressive issues are pro-capitalist issues.

>>508194703 (OP)
>immigration
>culture war
communists are not serious people, they are neoliberal creationists who hate White people

>>508195277
savoring food learned from times of scarcity

>>508198290
Well it's clear by your take that you have a very limited understanding on even the principles of socialism. Socialism is deeply rooted in science. The proletariat is just a category of people. It's like saying biologists invented mitochondria or something.

This idea that a mechanic and a call center employee would not have anything in common is just pure nonsense. Either you have never had to work a real job in your life or you are being purposely obtuse.

Both of those workers would murder their bosses if they could lmao

>>508198735
>>508199070
Are ether of you opposed to dismantling the power structure AND the creation of ethnostates? Or is this just a disagreement about which needs to be prioritized

>>508194703 (OP)
Yeah, guess what happened during the Wall Street protests...

>>508194703 (OP)
Are class struggle (low wages, taxes, etc.) used to divert attention from culture war?

How the hell can you describe "DEI" as anything but class struggle?

>>508199252
>are you opposed to dismantling the power structure AND the creation of ethnostates?
Of course not. But good luck with the latter without dismantling the power. I wouldn't trust a so called ethnostate that was allowed to be created otherwise, just think how compromised it would be.

>>508196592
>a mob of people in the finance district scared the bankers.
Nigger the bankers owned the people who organized it. The founder is a literal WEF member.

>>508194703 (OP)
I am so thankful I find asian food uninteresting

>>508198392
The rich use their money to fuck over the poor, the poor, being too retarded, get fucked over and over
Both are to blame

>>508199220
>Socialism is deeply rooted in science.
>science is infallible
>ergo my ideology written by debutants and couch surfers is correct
This is why nobody takes you seriously.

>>508194703 (OP)
Yes it has but I would argue that immigration is against the interest of the working class since they bring in beaners and jeets to lower wages raise the price of housing/goods and to lower the cohesion in the workplace thus lowering chances of people banding together to go against the exploitation of the capitalist system. But I agree a lot of the culture war issues are propped up to keep people distracted

>>508194703 (OP)
>Are culture wars (gender identity, immigration, etc.) used to divert attention from class struggle?

The fact that they subverted the idea of "intersectionality" to head off criticism from traditional leftists (that idendity politics would result in "the left" being divided and weak) tells you this

>>508194703 (OP)
I have checked out of the jewish prison bus:

>quit wagie job
>sold everything I had in my name
>all property I own is in somebody else name
>stopped renewing IDs
>stopped paying taxes
>stopped paying car insurance/plates
>free groceries and free techslop (lots of it is hidden in the back nowadays but there are still plenty on the shelves)
Fridge is always packed, I have no bills or worries.

The struggle is over, I am free.

>>508199989
so you dont understand socialism OR science. Got it.

"science is infallible" is a crazy statement lmao

The whole purpose of scientific method is to find what works and what doesn't through a process of trial and error; ergo socialism.

>>508199438
I agree, juat trying to see if the disagreement was on principle or on logistics

>>508199220
I also believe in a classless society where all labor is treated equal :)

>>508195635
Your timeline's off.
All the "woke" stuff was started in the second Obama term, years after OWS flamed out like it always would.

>>508196450
Exactly.
I agree with a lot of the OWS sentiments but it was nowhere near dangerous to the establishment.

>>508196592
>a mob of people in the finance district scared the bankers
No they didn't.
The real bankers weren't scared at all.
What were those protestors going to do? NOT vote for Obama? lol

>>508199063
> the risk of the masses focusing their efforts and energy
Yeah but that was never going to happen.
"Woke" wasn't necessary to disperse "class struggle".
"Class struggle" has always been a losing idea for revolution in the West.
That's why the real revolutionary grifters pivoted to race struggle in the '60s.

>>508199520
Take it from someone who was there (at the London camp anyways)
That nigger had nothing to do with it.
But one day you know who showed up? After the police had spent ages trying to break up the camps?
A bunch of weirdoes with armfuls of supplies, network equipment and money for the cause.
They used those to worm their way into organisational positions in the camp.
Then they brought in their friends.
Then they started talking about diversity stacks and other bullshit
Eventually they drove away the white men and thats when the camps fell apart.

>>508194703 (OP)
OH MY GAH IT ROOK DERISHEROUS

ME RIKEY UNCOOKED FRISH

CHING CHONG DING DONG WHITE BOI

>>508194703 (OP)

If that's the case then why doesn't the Left capitulate to the Right's social agenda so we can work together on bringing forth the Left's economic agenda?

Oh that's right, because saying culture wars are used to divert attention from class struggle is just the left saying "Shut up and surrender".

Left wingers should all be deported to the Congo.

>>508199086
Lmao Americans only think they hated socialsm while doing socialsm eg. cheap housing, healthcare, social safety nets etc.

There isn't a communist on earth that is worth their shit, that would ever give up their guns. You are conflating commies with blue hair lefty onions boys.

Class struggle is the dumbest shit of all time.

Newsflash: classes have always existed. The lower classes have always been taken advantage of. Within classes, there are deep and dividing mutual exclusivities which prevent class solidarity. Communism is a pipe dream. No civilization has ever gone so far in making things relatively better for the lower classes as Western civilization, specifically the one that opposed communism. It turned serfs into product managers and and slaves into free men. Marx’s historical and mathematical theories which provide the bedrock of communism are based on nothing real.

>>508200925
How do you explain the holohoaxes the jew is perpetrating against mudslimes in marxist-levy theory?

>>508195277
>What's the deal with this gook eating ritual. Just put the fucking food on a plate and eat it.
THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING

>>508200523
given how many rightoids believe portland and minneapolis are still rubble and love to freak out about riots any time there’s a protest, i don’t wanna hear it.

>>508198230
>You say this like commies aren't the biggest proponents of open borders.
they arent and you’re ideologically cucked by letter agencies

>>508200322
>u just don’t understand bro
I’ve done the required reading.
>"science is infallible" is a crazy statement lmao
Yes, and it is your implied argument.
>The whole purpose of scientific method is to find what works
Well, it doesn’t work so now what? All I’ve seen from you idiots is doubling down. If we’re being intellectually honest the culture wars nonsense is a direct result of the failures of socialism in the 20th century and them applying a process of trial and error to try and break down the perceived barriers to class struggle.

>>508200581
>the guy who coined the entire thing had nothing to do with it
I don’t know how it went in Bongistan but here they pretty much came pre-fab. The diversity shit has been festering here in academia since the late 80s at the latest.

>>508200925
Riiiight, thats why every communist regime confiscates guns immediately after seizing power. Unlike the NSDAP, which loosened gun regulations considerably and trained both boys and girls in shooting.

NatSoc can do everything you can do but better.

>>508194703 (OP)
Yes but careful as to not fall into communism.

>>508194703 (OP)
>culture wars
this is such a faggot way of minimizing you getting replaced.

like

>tee hee kulchur warz

gtfo

>>508200925
socialism =/= marxism =/= communism =/= leftism, but what would you know, your IQ is a lukewarm 90.

>>508194703 (OP)
Culture, language and religion are tools. They can be changed at any time. Ethnicity is most important because without it culture, language and religion do not work and if you ruin it you will not get it back. Cultural war is impossible without ethnicity.

>class warfaretards actually believe that jeff bezos and mark zuckerberg are high IQ psychopaths who divide and conquer every aspect of society

>>508201676
my boy hates jews but loves IQ scores HAHAHAHA

You don't have a single genuine thought in your barren wasteland of a brain.

>>508201913
Why are jews genociding palestinian mudslimes?

>>508201213
I suppose it all being fake and gay would make sense in the USA. Since everything there is fake and gay.
But here there was real fear from the bankers. They stopped going to their offices, the police were herding the homeless and junkies into our camp to try and break it up.

>>508202007
im pretty sure the zios , not all jews, just want the land. They dont really give a shit about the palestinian people either way. they just want the land for themselves

>>508202262
No shit, the jew in the west also wants the land, is that why natives in the west are getting genocided by the jew colonizer?

>>508194703 (OP)
The entire capitalism vs communism debate is an inherently jewish materialistic dualism paradigm. Break free from the cultural brainwashing of the jew

>>508202317
Yes. Their cultures were completely uninterested in dependency, jewish greed and debt, spiritual slavery, and male forced genital mutilation. The kikes of the day lied to Whites of course, and said it was destiny and the morally right and necessary thing to purge the natives. It’s always jews behind this stuff

>>508201913
>thinks my hatred of jews stems from some biological opposition and not racio-cultural struggle for survival
poor analysis, reddit-tier.
>think jews aren't essentially khazaro-germanic-celtic mutts mixed with sandnigger here and there
um.

>>508202317
>>508202903
>slavery

I think its most likely just a lot of awful people that have figured out they can scapegoat religion as a sort of mental leap to do really evil shit. It's not as simple as THE JOOS DID IT

>>508194703 (OP)
Very likely. I’ve been victimized by an obscenely rich bitch who pretends to care about all that stuff and puts on an empathetic act. She made tens of millions of dollars by agreeing to humiliate, degrade and insult me. You’ve all heard of her.

>>508203215
>NOOO the jews are GOOD only a few bad apples are LE EVIL
nobody turns into an individualistic centrist moralist liberal faster than a communist discussing judaism. patriarchal structures, capitalist oppressive death-loops, white men's evil colonial ambitions and hateful religions, all of those come under merciless structural scrutiny that leaves nothing behind.

but judaism? oh, no, no, judaism, you see, is something we should assess with softness, with emotional, liberal compassion, with the understanding that every soul is unique and individual, and things like 'overarching culture' and 'shared consciousness patterns' simply dont emerge there, by magic!

Oh my Marx!

>>508195277
:3

>>508203682
how dare you call me a moralist ive never been more insulted.

I'm just have to assume there are normal everyday working people who happen to be jewish or israeli and why should they face the consequences?

the only struggle is class struggle comrade

>>508203215
You are deflecting from what actions of jews, this is basically what jew marx levy wanted, to scapegoat the system, for the crimes of the jew

>>508204133
At this point you have to be baiting

>>508204318
No no, I am not deflecting. I really want to know why a person working paycheck to paycheck just to get by should have to pay for the actions of the powerful elite that actually control their lives. It's bullshit and you know it.

>>508204133
it doesnt matter that there are "normal people" in a socio-cultural cohort that *might* get caught in the crossfire of historical struggles.
this is not justification to hold back rightful anger.
the same way, when the romanovs were slaughtered, nobody stopped to think if the children might just grow up into fine and dandy honest people - they were killed all the same.

to want to prevent the above process is to be a MORALIST. a homosexual liberal.

they should face the consequences because they, involuntarily, perpetuate the culture of jewish parasitism, whether they realize it or not, and reinforce via radicalization it when the bad apples are pruned.

it is impossible to just partially decaptiate a cultural hydra. it always re-emerges if you leave the "good bits" of it untrimmed.

when cultures clash, one gets molten and destroyed, the other absorbs it and grows. no true synthesis ever occurs - only conquest and absorption.


the only struggle is biological struggle. Class is a manifestation of biological struggle translated into material possession, but it still spins around to biological assertion.

To want to win. To want your family to win. To want your tribe to win. To want your race to win. What is more natural than that?

Death to communism. The purest path is of National Socialism. Marxism, stripped of its jewish-infected Belle Epoque homosexuality, refined by biological and naturalistic practices, attuned to perfectly optimize the human condition without sanitizing its rawest edges.

>>508195277
the food is addictively hot when you prepare it like this

>>508200523
> Magical negro says to give out cheap loans and free money
> Bubble explodes
> Niggers camp because "muh interest rates bad"
> Magical negro is still their god

I hate Millenials so much it isn't even funny.

>>508204642
Yeah well, the nazis tried it and failed. The only thing nat socs are capable of achieving is ruin.
You know who killed the most nazis scumbags, right?

BIG RED FUKIN COMMIES

>>508196011
Kill yourself you disgusting whore.

>>508194703 (OP)
>Are culture wars (gender identity, immigration, etc.) used to divert attention
Yes, often. But just creating division by itself has value, even without anything specific to divert attention from.
>from class struggle
Occasionally, but class in the marxist sense is not a very valuable concept.
Struggle comes from opposing interests rather than opposing roles, which is why commies often have such a hard time engendering "class" solidarity.

>>508196488
>hate your leaders!
Kill yourself you jew rat.

>>508194703 (OP)
There is almost nothing I hate more than seeing bitches make a plate with their hand when they eat. It is so fucking gay, I can't stand it nor reasonably articulate why it makes me so angry but it does. So fucking cringe.

>>508194703 (OP)
yes but class srtuggle is used to divert attention from real materialist struggle, that is dna and genetics

>>508196011

True woman hate is a psyop

>>508198067
What monkey is this? He looks more conscious and wiser than most people kek

>>508207681
this guy gets it

is there really anything more beautiful than women? god i love women.