MOON LANDING WAS FAKED
911 WAS FAKED
WESTERN HISTORY WAS FAKED TOO!!!!

Issac Newton said this too actually. He wrote a whole book about it! Yes THAT Issac Newton.

HA HAH AH AHA

>>508203715
this

This was invented by Turks who wanted to say Greeks never existed

nice try chinks

Sinocentrism meets Chink inferiority complex

>>508202804 (OP)
Ni hao me so horny

>>508202804 (OP)
This is how genocide works btw
>Yes goy it was all fake
>your ancestors accomplished nothing
>it was really us
They erase your history with a stroke of a beaurocratic pen

>>508202804 (OP)
>the chinks are close to figuring out our real involvement in the Finno-Korean Hyperwar.
What's the most practical way to sink China under the sea? I am asking for a friend.

>>508202804 (OP)
Chinks are not dumb. In all likelihood they realized what's the deal with western history immediately when they saw it in 19th century. After that chinks realized how civlized people do those things, and wrote themselves their own 5000 year long history full of epic battles and cannibalism incidents.

>inspired by Fomenko
Fomenko's theory is based on works of early 20th century freemason Nikolai Morozov. Morozov was a very intelligent and well-informed man, but he had 19th century education with all subsequent biases - for example, he genuinely thought that Bible is a historical source. He has many interesting ideas regarding speculative histiory, but his work shouldn't be read as gospel and his biases should be accounted for.

>>508203715
>Issac Newton said this too actually
That's because Isaac Newton lived in 17th fucking century. Modern historiography only started to form after he died. So the history that Isaac Newton was aware of looked somewhat like that:
>history of Antiquity known from known classical texts
>1000+ year hole with nothing in it
>Poorly documented recent history, he could likely see no deeper than mid 16th century
The hole was filled with nice entertaining cartoonish "medieval history" only after his life has ended.
It is given that he would ask:
>Why is there a such a huge fucking hole? Are you sure there was something in it and it's not just a chronology fuckup?

>>508202804 (OP)
>"could only have been fabricated by people hired by italian bankers during the Renaissance."

What did he mean by that?

>Weather event of 536 AD is recorded for the same year in China and Europe independently, confirming the rough timeline because we have a fix point in antiquity
I just disproved the theory. Now shoot yourself.

>>508202804 (OP)
>new chronology
Hilarious.

>>508210201
Bankers retarded shit aside, Italy is the place where modern era European culture originated from, and where the seat of power of the main modern era European church is situated. It is given, that as of beginning of the modern era, Italy was the main center of civilization in Europe, where all knowledge and all intelligent people were concentrated. It is given, that they had more role in laying a foundation of modern historical knowledge than any other party.

>>508210381
>Weather event of 536 AD is recorded for the same year in China and Europe independently
What is the provenance of the Chinese record?

>>508202804 (OP)
If the news is fake, imagine how fake history is

Chinese are very insecure creatures

>>508210179
Why do you pretend to be in Russia? It's weird.

>>508202804 (OP)
>pre-christian european history is made up
>charlemagne-era european history is made up
>20th century european history is made up

it's primarily butthurt russians pushing the moon landing as a hoax. the sooner russia and the russian people stop existing the better for humanity

It'd be bizarre to assume that, with knowledge that many countries having been identified as routinely whitewashing their pasts, redacting history and destroying single-issue historical texts, and replacing them with "accepted" modern histories, that only history we like or accept is the sole "accurate" portrayal. Most of history is full to the brim with heroic figures that are credited with immeasurable feats and blended heavily with perceptions at the time that could be considered questionable by almost every historian, and we routinely have to go over things with a fine-toothed comb to get what we'd make out to be an actually realistic account of history based on our modern understanding of sciences, logistics, ancient culture, geography, etc. All history should be considered dubious retellings that benefit the author of whatever document was printed, either as a measure to enrich the commissioner, a measure to ingratiate the author to the whims of a leader, or as a ploy to inform those of a comfortable or uncomfortable idealism of events.

>>508210801
>imagine how fake history is
There is limit to how fake news can be. For example, it's impossible to publish news about new war starting, if it didn't actually start, or a monarch changing if one didn't change. This means, that as far as macro-history goes, periodic press reporting current events is a genuinely reliable source from which history can be reconstructed.

The system of periodic press was properly established in Europe only in 17th century. In all likelihood, the Peace of Westphalia is the first fully reliable snapshot of European political map which is available. You can maybe go 100 years backwards from it using gradually diminishing sources and try to reconstruct something. The border of modern era history is there. Anything before that is based on random documents which were pulled by religious institutions out of their asses, and on "extrapolation" by government historians on payroll that can be compared to reconstructing a whole dinosaur using one tiny bone. Also full of fantasy shit like women popes, women warlords in titty armor, telepathically controlled nomad hordes that need no food, glorious kangz fighting in the vanguard of their army with +5 legendary swords, child crusades and other things that for some reason never happen outside of "medieval".

As of antiquity, the main proof of it actually being real, is that it's way too complex and advanced for 17th century retards to fabricate, so it was definitely there.

>>508211171
That's because I am in Russia? What the fuck is that question even.

>>508211716
>What the fuck is that question even.
You're not doing a good job at pretending to be in Russia, you talk like a NAFO lol

>>508211834
So why do you think I can't actually be in Russia?

>>508212049
Do you mean, how do I know? You click shit nigger.

>>508202804 (OP)
Where are the proofs? They literally have none.

>>508212377
So where exactly I am? Impress me.

>>508211393
I don't get that one at all tbqh. All they need is to change the narrative imo. First man in fucjing SPACE will potentially be a much bigger deal that first man on the moon in the coming centuries.

>>508212642
No, you just keep on clicking shit though. Interact a bit with the board. Gotta check out how spicy the memes get here right?

>wikipedia is a source
This place has really gone downhill

>>508212799
Just curious, what exactly set you off to go on this retarded attempt to fuck with me? Is that because I said that abrahamic holy text is not a historical source?

>>508211532
>historical reports about great general x riding elephants had multiple witnesses and accounts!
ergo they're valid and real!
>historical reports about faeries have multiple witnesses accounts and stories
no you can't just do that!

>>508213071
I've been noticing you.

>>508213393
Considering the general sum of shit you genuinely believe, you were never able to notice anything actually important lmao.

>>508213163
Precisely my point. We had many historical documented sources placing lions alongside angels and dragons as mythical beasts, and just as many putting your average whales, fish, sharks, kelpies, seasnakes, octopi, and sirens as common sea creatures you'd expect while navigating X sea or Y river. All of this should be questioned through a lens of historicity, regardless of if it's a happy and ideal story or a miserable and horrific incident in time.

>>508213610
For some reason people believe that academia scholars with properly structured minds and the culture of processing information, who generally write those texts from 18th century onward, always existed. In reality, all properly educated people have perished in the collapse of antiquity, and the world between it and Enlightenment was populated by disoriented tards who couldn't lean on any established system of knowledge and couldn't distinguish between metaphysical religious information and empirical practical one. Some of those retards just could read and write. So this is what they wrote.

>>508213610
I agree mate, false flags didn't start with 9/11 and false narratives and fake news didn't just begin with trump it's been throughout history

and I sincerely believe in faeries and the paranormal. My friend saw one in his youth and I think pre-civilization - with people living in the foods without wifi and metal that disrupt the etherality of spirits - that these were a lot more common and known. it's just buried in history.
people had sense back then and they saw what they saw and described it. and i'm not going to gaslight them on what they saw.
just my take.

>>508213547
Who says I believe what I say? 4chan is a place to chill and throw ideas out, you debunker faggots always make yourselves by trying to debunk a bunch of banter.

I realize that's what you do but it makes you gay.

>>508214077
>without wifi and metal that disrupt the etherality of spirits
Funny thing is that when radio was just invented, contemporary retards believed that it will allow them to interact with the intangible world, and there was a whole new culture of metaphysical clowning forming around radio.
This was late 19th-early 20th century. "Godless atheistic modernity" is just a thin film over the abyss of trying to communicate with wifi spirits.

>>508202804 (OP)
we know

>>508202804 (OP)
Just because you heard about it on a thread yesterday doesn't mean it is news.

>>508214873
lol