What's funny is that there are low IQ retards everywhere who still think Russia and China will help Iran.

>>508298658 (OP)
Why wouldn't they?

>>508299030
another 3rd world who believe Russia and China will help Iran. I don't even blame you. There are too many who think like you.
And perhaps that's why we living in a 3rd world and we deserve it.

>>508298658 (OP)
what's funny is that Trump thinks he can get out of this mess by doing a few strikes and leaving.
He's pretty much condemning Israel to complete destruction. There's no way the US can stop a 90 million country with limitless missiles, just by dropping a few bombs.
To save Israel, the US will need to do boots on the ground, but that's the end of Trump and the end of peace between eastern and western powers

>>508298658 (OP)
No, the funny thing is that they really believe that 2 of the most isolationist countries in modern history have any interest in getting involved in a war with the most powerful state, while Russia's forces are busy in Ukraine and China somehow now gives a fuck.
This board is unironically filled with retards who are incapable of anything other than sophistry and alarmism. This board is what should actually be nuked.

>>508299030
>Why wouldn't they?

>>508299280
>that pic
>another 3rd worlder who believes China and Russia will help Iran
lmao
But you're right about having boots on the ground. It's the only way to confirm victory against Iran and it will be too difficult for the Americans to do.

>>508299388
>No, the funny thing is that they really believe that 2 of the most isolationist countries in modern history
what's Japan got to do with this?

>>508299280
> but that's the end of Trump
Why do 3rd worlders seriously think Trump was magically going to undo a constitutional amendment to stay in power for a 3rd term, that he has the power to do this, or that the US would somehow devolve into Marshall law at the sight of protests.

Its kind of pathetic at this point

>>508299501
>3rd worlder
no such classification exists after Cold War ended. You don't even understand the terminology you're trying to use. Grow up.
>But you're right about having boots on the ground. It's the only way to confirm victory against Iran and it will be too difficult for the Americans to do.
It's the only way to attempt to stop Iran's missile strikes against Israel. But there will be no "confirmation" of anything, the US doesn't have the military capabilities to fight a country the size of Iran.

>>508299529
>Why do 3rd worlders seriously think Trump was magically going to undo a constitutional amendment to stay in power for a 3rd term, that he has the power to do this, or that the US would somehow devolve into Marshall law at the sight of protests.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
The end of Trump and the republican party. That's when happens when you come to power on anti-war rhetoric, and then drag your country into the worst war since decades because "the bible told you to protect jews at all costs".
This is the cultural end of Trump and the current American political system

>>508299634
Yeah, it took them 20 years in Afghanistan only to retreat. Hot war in Iran with boots on the ground will completely drain their resource and personnel.

>>508299765
>The end of Trump and the republican party.
Trump has 4 more years, as he was elected by 32% of this Country to have.
This is the most he can have, and the length of his influence over the Republican party.
>and the current American political system
lmao

>>508299871
it will distabilize the whole region and potentially drag all neighbouring countries into the war.
And of course China and Russia won't sit around just watching either. Their involvement could be proxy-level, same as EU is involved in Ukraine.

The general trend is that we are all heading towards a world-conflict, these local wars are not really local wars. They're regional conflicts that are beginnign to spill over their respective regions. And in a way, this is what Huntington predicted in this Clash of Civilizations theory - but I will amend it a bit - the clash of regions, driven by multipolarisation of political order

>>508299871
The only reason that Afghanistan lasted that long is because pussy-minded retards now think that colonialism is the devil, so the intervention wasn't about setting up their own rule, but to not let the Taliban rule, and even then they were still too light on them. The US could have ended that in a few years tops, if they cared about setting up a vassal state.
Instead, it was a pointless war. Fought in constant fear of being seen as "too harsh" by the rest of the world.

>>508299962
>Trump has 4 more years, as he was elected by 32% of this Country to have.
nigger, this doesn't matter. Stop hiding behind bureaucratic nonsense. The US political system already (as is) is in a deep crisis, and this will be the final nail. Democrats completely lost trust, now Republics will lose trust. Both parties are on the precipice of collapse, you might even end up with a 3rd party rising in coming years.

>>508300160
>And of course China and Russia won't sit around just watching either. Their involvement could be proxy-level, same as EU is involved in Ukraine.
Not really. They won't help Iran. That's the whole thing you need to understand.

>>508299225
>>508299402
>ad hominem
I accept your concession.

>>508300244
Only key point you're missing here: the US wouldn't be able to set up a vassal state, Afghanistan doesn't work like that.
Remember what happened to their gender-fluid soldiers there?

>>508300404
>Not really. They won't help Iran. That's the whole thing you need to understand.
stop shitposting politically illiterate nonsense

>>508299030
Don't see a claim like that in Russian news.

>>508300569
ok nigger, let me know when they help Iran. You can email me on omegachad@horsefucker.org

That's the real email address btw. Let me know.

>>508300441
your argument was an unsourced twitter post you retard. go back you monkey

>>508299388
Yes, absolutely, Russia and China are willing to lose their investments and influence over a very important geopolitical position. So important that the jews were willing to risk Tel Aviv getting fucked just to take it.

I thought chileans were supposed to be smart or something, or perhaps youre just a veneco who is butthurt over Maduro supporting Iran.

>>508300343
>The US political system already (as is) is in a deep crisis,
lol, listening to disinfo propaganda bots as fact doesn't change reality
> and this will be the final nail.
This won't change shit
>il. Democrats completely lost trust, now Republics will lose trust. Both parties are on the precipice of collapse
Both parties have a monopoly on power that they cannot lose
>you might even end up with a 3rd party rising in coming years.
Literally impossible in the US ecosystem. In our education system 3rd parties are taught as complete jokes whom exist only to spoil the two main parties. If Ross Perot couldn't do it before 3 decades of anti-3rd party brainwashing rhetoric hit the public schooling programming in panicked response, it sure as shit isn't happening today.

>>508300867
>Yes, absolutely, Russia and China are willing to lose their investments and influence over a very important geopolitical position. So important that the jews were willing to risk Tel Aviv getting fucked just to take it.

I am still not even sure how Assad lost and ISIS took control of Syria without it being in the news.

>>508298658 (OP)
russians offered a mutual defence agreement to iran last january and iran refused. really a smart move. I apologize to monke anyway, this time he didn't backstabbed anyone (prolly a first for him)

>>508300821
- Iran is on the coast of the Caspian Sea
- Every single other nation that is on the Caspian Sea (except Iran) was territory of the Soviet Union
- Any war on Iranian territory will involve security threats to at least 6 post-Soviet countries, this also includes Georgia btw.
- Russia went for a full military intervention in Syria, just to prevent the flow of Islamist radicals to that exact same region I just mentioned.

Russia's involvement in the Iranian war wouldn't be because Russia loves Iran or anything, it will be because of pure geographic proximity to Russia's zone of interests. That involvement may not be direct like in Syria, but weapons will be shared, intelligence will be shared, technology will be shared. That you can bet on.

>>508301126
i happened overnight. I'm pretty sure Russia was in on it too. Never trust Jewtin.

>>508300956
you write like an NPC would, I suppose there's no point talking to someone who exists in the moment and can't see events as they develop

>>508301328
You type fanfiction from a culture you don't understand an half the globe and an ocean away.

>>508301371
>You type fanfiction from a culture you don't understand an half the globe and an ocean away.
lmao that's rich coming from an american

all of this is beyond fake and gay. nobody in the world can do shit against the carrier strike groups. one carrier group has more firepower than 20 average countries combined. then there's the air force...

>>508301433
You're the one trying to lecture me on American culture while making fantastical claims of a 3rd party rising to power.
It's the kind of claim only a retard living in an burnt out ex soviet-bloc shithole could come up with.

>russia
>helping anybody
Lol

Russia stands with Israel

https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1936537899505271165

>>508300842
Sorry if you were propagandized into thinking Russia won't do shit. If you were well informed you would know that Putin said that the day before yesterday while answering question in the St. Petersburg economic forum. China's main diplomat also already said they won't sit by, has a direct rail lines to Iran, has been sending planes since into Iran since Israel attacked and sent spy ships into the theater.

>>508301619
>we wuz kikes
ROFLMAOCOPTER!!!!

>>508298658 (OP)

This is the lowest IQ thread ive ever seen. Not even article 5 stipulates military intervention. An alliance dosent mean military support. They can send you Microchips, fuel, clothes, Gunpowder. They can help with radars or whatever.

Im so tierd of retarded people. Go read article 5 before you open your mouth you stupid peasant.

>>508301555
>You're the one trying to lecture me on American culture
do you know how old American culture is and who invented it?

>>508301699
that is what I am saying retard. China and Russia won't help Iran actively and defend it against kikes and Americans. But 3rd worlds think they will.

>>508301871
you're braindead

https://x.com/i/status/1935702860508836099

>>508301631
>Sorry if you were propagandized
says the man repeating non-committal words of politicians.

>>508301800
Neither of those are relevant to the reality that Duverger's law prevents a 3rd party from being a reality in the USA.

>>508298658 (OP)
Only if Russia were not fighting another war.
Only if China's economy not be fucked up by their govt.

>>508301924
>>508301247
Just like how Russia defended Syria and handed over its control to Israel? Wasn't it also a "strategic" location for Russia to defend its national interest?

>>508302055
>Duverger's law
lmao, kys

>>508302173
did Russia get involved militarily in Syria?
yes or no?

>>508298658 (OP)

>Treaty on the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Russian Federation

>Article 4
>1. In order to enhance national security and confront common threats, the intelligence and security agencies of the Contracting Parties shall exchange information and experience and increase the level of their cooperation.
>2. The intelligence and security agencies of the Contracting Parties shall cooperate within the framework of separate agreements.

>Article 5
>4. The Contracting Parties shall consult and cooperate in countering common military and security threats of a bilateral and regional nature.

>Article 12

>The Contracting Parties shall facilitate bolstering of peace and security in the Caspian region, Central Asia, Transcaucasia, and the Middle East, cooperate to prevent interference in the specified regions and destabilizing presence of the third states there, and exchange opinions on the situation in other regions of the world.

>Article 45
>1. This Treaty is subject to ratification and shall enter into force upon the expiration of 30 (thirty) days from the date of the last written notification of the completion by the Contracting Parties of the relevant domestic procedures, and shall be valid for 20 (twenty) years with automatic renewal for subsequent five-year periods.

https://www.iranwatch.org/library/governments/iran/islamic-republic-news-agency-irna/treaty-comprehensive-strategic-partnership-between-islamic-republic-iran-russian-federation

>The Guardian Council has endorsed a bill approving the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty signed between Tehran and Moscow earlier this year.
>During an open session on May 21, Parliament voted in favor of the bill outlining the treaty’s provisions. Out of 211 members present, 192 voted in favor, 5 opposed, and 2 abstained.
>Both houses of the Russian parliament have ratified the treaty, and President Putin signed it into law in April.

A single russian lithuanian man owned up your shills in this retarded zogmutt, nafo/uhg thread. Epic style.
This is why you can't win, you're trash.

>>508298658 (OP)

What this means anons is that it completed ratification on June 11 and will thus go into effect on July 11. From that point forward, Russia and Iran will be legally obligated to cooperate and counter common threats to each other. This includes sharing information between their intelligence and security agencies.

Of course, it doesn't require they commit trips in each other's defense i.e. a mutual defense clause, but it does require a coordination of their military efforts against those deemed common threats. The United States is supporting Ukraine against Russia and now Israel against Iran.

U.S. would also qualify as a "third state" where they have to cooperate to prevent interference or destabilizing presence of such a state in the Middle East. By intervening or interfering by striking Iran, this article would also be triggered.

Basically, unless all this gets resolved before July 11, Russia will be obligated to cooperate with Iran in confronting, countering, and preventing interference of the United States and Iran will be similarly obligated to do the same for Russia.

Putin lightly hinted at this here:

>“We already have combat operations going on against those who we consider opponents of the ideas we defend and who pose a threat to the Russian Federation,” he said, adding that these opponents are “far behind the frontline” and are “basically the same forces – with Iran and in the case of Russia.”

https://www.rt.com/news/620076-israel-russian-speaking-putin/

That statements of them being "basically the same forces" should be taken as a signal of Russia's treaty obligations, which will officially come into effect on July 11. Of course, he can act them before that and may have already, but that would not require direct Russian military involvement. It would be a matter of coordinating actions. The level of assistance beyond intelligence-sharing and strategic cooperation is entirely up to them.

>>508302186
>uhm yeah heres something that cannot happen within the current US political system, has never happened but its totes gonna occur in the next 10 years instead of the Democrats/Republicans chameleoning their party into whatever fears the the bought out media has stoked with propaganda

this isn't the 19th Century, there isn't something that'll replace the current parties like the Whigs. That era of American politics is in the past. Instead you have shit like the teaparty movement shifting the Republicans into more radicalized beliefs, dragging the left in the USA center right in compromise.

>Date of Independence: March 11, 1990
right, an ex-soviet shithole that got to rewrite their rules thinking the same shit applies in the USA.

>>508302484
>A single russian lithuanian man owned up your shills in this retarded zogmutt, nafo/uhg thread. Epic style.
>This is why you can't win, you're trash.

>>508298658 (OP)
i'm one of them thought betting only on China as they are the major importer of Iran oil

>russia and china both officially confirm they are helping Iran in their defensive war and have been confirmed to be helping by western intelligence
>jew on pol: russia and china won't do anything

>>508300601
https://www.bfm.ru/special/pmef2025/spage/575819

>>508302807
Yeah, br monkey already posted the excerpt. Too bad it's outdated now.

>>508302884
holy cope
bro, here's a tip, yoru government is not your friend, you have no obligation to defend it online or to identify yourself with it

>>508302710
now post the proof

>>508303955
What's the cope here?
Putin said that 3 days ago, before Trump escalated the conflict.

>>508302710
Post the source?
>>508303955
>>508302807
>Vladimir Putin added that there are no articles on the defense sphere in the treaty of Russia and Iran, and Tehran does not ask for this. From other statements of the Russian president: he allowed a meeting with Vladimir Zelensky, but questioned his legitimacy as president of Ukraine.
This has nothing to do with aiding Iran. What the fuck are you retards talking about?
Post the quote

>>508298658 (OP)
>Israel is basically Russia
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Is this monkey zigger for real?

It seems more and more that Russia is a CIA trojan horse for the Chinks

>>508300343
>Both parties are on the precipice of collapse, you might even end up with a 3rd party rising in coming years.
your european rules dont apply to us. all of your dooming points are boons to the american system. you niggers never learn that we create the rules

>>508298658 (OP)

Chinese want a permanent base there. The Russians want a permanent base there. In fact a weakened regime will see that presence as shortly.