I've never posted here before.

I'm a 30 y/o that lurked other chans in my teens, so I know this is one of the few places you can get uncensored opinions.

As someone with zero interest in religion or politics: why is the US supportive of Israel?

They're a relatively tiny geopolitical power, with a small populace and GDP.

Additionally, as a historically Christian nation, I thought Christians and Jews fundamentally don't get along due to the whole Jesus thing?

Please no memes or schizo rants. Can someone give me an objective explanation for why we'd stick our neck out for a country that seems to make no sense to back?

Just give me a straight, no-BS answer. Thanks.

>>508308821 (OP)
No point asking here. It's crawling with Muslim shills paid by Iran to spin conspiracy theories about Jews and Israel.

>>508308821 (OP)

>>508308941
Ironic coming from a kike shill

>>508309023

>>508308821 (OP)
No idea either, but I always assumed it was just a way to keep controling the situation in the middle east.

Christians cannot tell the difference between a Jew and an Israelite. Fuck Allah btw.

>>508308821 (OP)
The US does not operate on realpolitik, it operates on zionist idealism
Pragmatically Iran makes for a better ally than Israel, but our government is lobbied by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and not the American Iranian Public Affairs Committee

tldr: Jews run the government and both parties are funded entirely by zionists

>>508308821 (OP)
Israel is a leper colony
send all lepers to israel

>>508308821 (OP)
>one of the few places you can get uncensored opinions
not so true anymore

bots and literal organizations of jews spam this place to hide or disinfo every day, or they push government payroll stooges with youtube channels to feed you propaganda. believe it.

>>508309113
>>508309023
Hey, cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.

Israel uses the US as a golem; an entity that will fight for the Jews for nothing in return. The Jews accomplished this through subverting the evangelical churches with the "God's chosen people" and children of Israel narratives. Evangelical churches drive this point from birth. Listen to any Sunday school childrens song and it's all jew-worship. This church subversion takes care of grassroots support. For governmental policy, AIPAC "donates" to pro-Israel politicians. It is the largest lobby in the US. Some would argue Mossad uses blackmail to coerce politicians to bending to their will.

>>508308821 (OP)
It's a rabbithole.
Research zionism.

>>508309284
sorry, it wont happen again

>>508308821 (OP)
blackmail, corruption, bribes and some of them are retarded enough to take the Schofield bible as literal

>>508309353
more like rabbihole xd get it

>>508308821 (OP)
Scofield bible>evangelical zionists>Aipac money.

>>508308941
oh yea kind of like how everyone here is a pakistani and that's why india gets so much hate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

>>508309382

>>508308821 (OP)
Here's a classic book on how the Israel lobby bribes and coerces U.S. politicians into carrying out Israel's agenda at the cost of our own national interests:

https://archive.org/details/the-israel-lobby-and-u.-s.-foreign-policy_202403

Here's a good book on how Israel controls our politicians through blackmail, bribery, and psyops:

https://archive.org/details/2008-guilt-by-association-how-deception-and-self-deceit-took-america-to-war-ocr

Here's the best book on the 9/11 false-flag operation:

https://archive.org/details/ThornVictor911Evil_201608

It cost the author his life.

Look up the Balfour declaration

>>508308941
STFU kike faggot shill. TKD. The day of the oven is coming.

>>508308941
see this is the kind of unironic jewish disinfo and misdirection I was talking about

literally out of the blue "muh muslims!!" bitch I doubt any islamic goatfuckers even post here you stupid puppet state nigger

All jew-memes aside;
USA was rather apathetic towards Israel in the beginning; it embargo Israel during the critical 1948 war and virtually did not lift a finger to help it.
During the 1950s the US aligned with Nasser and the arab states against Israel because it was believed that pan-Arabism movement would create a middle eastern superstate that would be significant against the Soviets.
US main ally in the middle east at the time was Iran, and Iran was a very powerful state.
1967 war essentially same game; USA did very little to support Israel but the dynamics shifted after that war because pan-arabism between Egypt and Syria had failed, and the arabs had proven themselves absolutely worthless at governing and military, while the jews had proven themselves to excell at both.
In the 1970s USA fully supported Israel in the Yom Kippur war which caused the arab states to rally against USA with OPEC.
You also get the Iran revolution where USA lose its main geopolitical player in the middle east.

US policy now shifts towards one gravitation: Fuck Iran. US foreign policy now becomes to align with anyone in the region that oppose Iran. The two main players in that game were Saudi Arabia and Israel. Both whom today are strong US allies and main buyers of US weapons.
Should also be said that Israel has top-tier weapons manufacturing industry that even islamic states like Azerbaijan are buyers.


Tldr:
First stage: Arabs promising. Iran main ally. Israel questionable.
Second Stage: Arabs suck. Jews successful. Iran betrayed. Saudis and Israelis hate Iran = Loyal allies.

>>508309691
Anon when I fucked your mother, sister and dog in the ass they disagreed and begged me for more big black cock. Tyrone,

>>508308821 (OP)

>>508308941
This. While you're at it, don't question the holocaust either you filthy gent...leman

>>508308821 (OP)
>Additionally, as a historically Christian nation, I thought Christians and Jews fundamentally don't get along due to the whole Jesus thing?

enter the Scofield bible and the rise of Christian Zionism which instilled the belief that ancient fulfilled prophecies pertaining to the Babylonian captivity/return, the Maccabean revolt, and the revolt under Nero somehow also pertain to current/future events (i.e. the khazarian larpers are using their adopted scriptures as a blueprint)

>>508308941
>everyone here is Iranian agent
>also everyone here is Russian agent
>also everyone here is a Chinese agent
at some point you will realise that you are the agent

>>508308821 (OP)
>why is the US supportive of Israel?
Epstein. Mossad has dirt on virtually every US politician and plutocrat. The politicians they don't have blackmailed into total compliance they have bribed via. AIPAC.
Religion is a smokescreen.
Partisan politics is a smokescreen.

>>508308821 (OP)
One reason; they donate huge sums to politicians through front organisations, and therefore every politician in Congress, every President is in hock to them. Thats surface level and provable, they also have enough sift power through their control of the media to derail anyone who goes against Israel. Next time you watch a film take note of how many Jew names you see in the opening credits; its like the arrow in the FedEx logo, once you see it you can't 'unsee' it and you'll wonder how you didn't see it before.

They use 'muh Holocaust' to generate sympathy from the lowly average goyim who is ignorant as to why they were so despised in Europe time and again.

>>508308821 (OP)
Zionism. See balfour declaration, the titanic, and what happened at jekyll island. Lots of Jews in the US as well. Truman was lobbied by Zionists, US recognized Israel 10 minutes after it's creation. Evangelicals in the US think the state of israel is the one from the Bible and want to support it because it will bring about revelation which will bring Jesus here sooner. I'm not making thay up, unfortunately. Jews in the US have a lot of political power and influence over our propaganda, which helps lull the masses. In terms of why politicians like them, it's a mix of favor for evangelicals, blackmail against them, money given to them by the state of israel in one form or another (AIPAC), the adl, the holocaust making it impossible to talk badly about jews for 80 years, the sympathy from said holocaust and the jewish control over the media shoving it down your throat in every way possible. All leads to the public being sympathetic to the state.
Our government gets a proxy the region to help fight communism in the 50s and exercise soft power. Meanwhile the israelis attempt to control our politics and media so that they control themselves through the US, and vice versa. They play the media games because they're still our puppet and need our military support.
Jews, unironically, hate Jesus. The Talmud quotes (most of which you see you can't rely on either) about Jesus and Mary are actually true. They hate him. Evangelicals have been pushing the heretical idea, as you can see from Cruz recently, that the state of israel is the one of the Bible. The jews love this. You can go on YouTube and find services they have where they fly the Israeli flag everywhere, sometimes play hava nagila. I'm not making that one up either. It's a doomsday cult masked as a branch of protestantism that is heretical. It's heretical because the implications of what they believe make them subservient to a foreign nation.
This rabbit hole goes deep. I've only scratched the surface.

>>508308821 (OP)
The US-Israel relation is threefold: geographics, politics and religion.

1) Geographics. Israel is the only US ally in the region. Also, its location is great, strategically.

2) Politics. See point #1.

3) Religion. Some Evangelical Christians in America believe that in order for Christ to reappear, Jews must reclaim their holy land, which is Israel. There are a lot that actually *devoutly* believe this, and many elected officials. It's not "Zionism", just "nutcase Christians".

Think "believe in Christ and He will absolve you of your sins and your injuries"-whackos.

>>508310023
>Wait a minute... I'm the shill? How'd that happen? I repeated everything they told me to...

>>508308821 (OP)
Here's a fun image as well

>>508308821 (OP)
>>508309564
Here's a fun image as well

>>508309748
he's not even wrong, chans are full of Muslims at first, over the years I thought most stofrmag/jew obsession was just that, dedicated schizos but once I get inside a 4chan group or two, even from /pol/, meet people irl or got to know dozens of active posters personally I've realized that the amount of Muslim diaspora in Western countries posting here is ridiculously high. And yes, they're unpaid and obsessed with Israel and Jews, even on a fucking home server discord they would talk conspiracy theories about Jews for hours daily.

>>508308821 (OP)
Common strategic interest primarily.
Israel is their outpost in the ME, it affords them control over Christianity's holiest cities (Jerusalem, Bethlehem), keeps Christianity's nemesis islam off-balance, affords them influence over the world's most important trade route (Suez), affords them influence over a resource-rich region of the world (the Middle East & its oil) and finally it is worthwhile to note that effectively all of the golden ages of Christian nations involved jews to quite a large degree.

And after all the dust and hysteria settles they are quite the propaganda tool with their many victories, anyone doubting American weaponry can just be shoved face-first into Israel's performance and be forced to swallow their doubt.
It's good to put things in perspective like that: Israel costs half as much as Ukraine (so far) yet for that price it has racked up dozens of victories against numerous foes. None close to as impressive as Russia of course, but beating up the entire Middle East several times (at their insistence no less) is noteworthy.

OP here:

>>508309331
How is it possible that there is a denomination of Christianity with support of Judaism as one of its core tents. It's that a walking oxymoron?

>>508309234
>>508309634
>>508309635
Thanks.

>>508309791
sounds like bullshit

>>508310726
Muslims post a lot of jew stuff yeah, but it's not all Muslims. You have to be a midwit or a kike doomer shill to think normal people aren't posting here still. If you're here telling people not to ask questions about Israel because "4chsn is only browns", you're a kike shill

>>508310921
It's brown skins as well, the most racist and obsessed with low IQ conspiracies people were always the browns.
A stormfag is by definition a schizo with too low of an IQ to do anything but strawman and spam his shit.

>>508308821 (OP)
christcucks.

>>508309113
>1938
I think you gotta redo this one bro

>>508308821 (OP)
1: the enemy of my enemy.
islam, specifically the militant expansionist flavor of it, has been a thorn in america's side since jefferson was shelling out ransom to the barbary pirates. fast forward to 9/11, ISIS, hezbollah and the ayatollah's screaming "death to america!" and you've got a recurring theme. israel's been on the frontlines of that fight since day one, so of course washington's going to arm them like a doom protagonist. doesn't matter if it's reagan selling them guns or obama quietly funding the iron dome, the calculus hasn't changed.

2: ideological mirror. israel's a fucked up little microcosm of america's own culture wars. they've got their rainbow flag waving tel aviv liberals (who US progressives fetishize) and their hardline settlers (who US evangelicals adore). so they have bipartisan cover, no matter who's in the white house, some faction in DC has a boner for israel. evangelicals think it's prophecy, neolibs think it's a beacon of democracy, and the military industrial complex just sees it as a weapon's testing lab.

3: espionage and dirty games. the declassified JFK files proved what skeptics whispered about for decades. Israel's spy game is ruthless, washington's often looked the other way because they're useful. stolen nukes, suppressed intel? covert ops against soviet's proxies? all fair play when you're fighting the same shadow war on the same side.
/pol/ will tell you it's the other way around, but israel is our heavily armed, tech-savvy pit bull in one region that's reliably shit on US interests for a century.

>>508308941
Fuck Israel

>>508308821 (OP)
USA and israel are in a findom realtionship where each american taxpayer sends a $5000 check each month to israel so they can build luxury resorts for world-wide condemned pedophiles that fled to israel to escape prosecution, and fund forever wars in middle east so that israel can murder civilians, bomb red cross and other civilian aid workers for a litlle giigle here and there, and keep their organ-trafficking business online.

>>508308821 (OP)
Jews run everything important in america. If it's not a jew running the show it's a guy that was groomed from an early age by jews.
See your president right now Donald Trump. He sucked off his mentor Roy Cohn. Trump has been blowing jews since he was in his early 20s.

>>508310996
Sure, I agree. The truth is out there, though. Look up and translate the commentaries of Kiddushin 41a.8, it's one of the few tractates I've been able to verify isn't bullshit nor taken out of context. I denounce the talmud

>>508310899
yes. i know it's retarded. the most retarded christians who believe the earth is 6000 years old are also the retards that retardedly carry water for the jews. no matter what.

>>508310899
>How is it possible that there is a denomination of Christianity with support of Judaism as one of its core tents. It's that a walking oxymoron?

Judaism and Christianity share half of the Scripture. They are very related religions. There is a common belief among Christians here (probably in the US too) that Jesus did not come to oppose Judaism, but to "complete" it.

>>508308821 (OP)
That's the great mystery. Why do you have senators and congressmen shilling for Israel constantly? It's right in front of peoples eyes and they refuse to recognize how undermined the US is by Israeli politics. That's just what you see on the surface. The career side of the us government, aka the unelected people, are much more pro israel. The pentagon and the cia are stacked with pro israel shills. Nobody can tell you why though. Are they bought? Maybe they're jews themselves, maybe they believe in some weird religious thing. In a way it almost doesn't matter. What matters is recognizing that they're using the US to pursue Israeli foreign policy. The US has been fighting Israels enemies for the past 25 years.

>>508308821 (OP)
israel isnt a real country...we created it after we fucked up the rest of the world. we wanted something near the dead sea because thats the closest place on the surface to hell itself

>>508308821 (OP)
The US are a Jewish country and hated by the entire world. It's only natural that they support Israel, who is also a Jewish country and hated by all of humanity.

>>508308821 (OP)
Jewish political donors anon

>>508310726
sounds like the only schizo here is you bud. you got psyop'd

>>508310911
Ok and sometimes AI is full of bullshit because if you give follow-up questions, then suddenly it quickly changes position. Go ahead and ask about why US supported the Arabs states in the Seuz crisis to accommodate pan-arabism, and how "recognizing" Israel means nothing to support it since USA embargo Israel and gave them virtually no actual support beyond recognition.

>>508308821 (OP)
>why is the US supportive of Israel?
a lot of the rich people who hold power in the USA are of jewish descent. in the end it all boils down to money and power.
Israel has a large engineering and sciences sector and it's exporting a lot of intellectual property to the USA, where it's amplified to make a lot of money.
Israel has offices of Intel, Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.

>tiny geopolitical power, with a small populace and GDP.
Don't confuse geographic with demographics. Israel has a relatively large population and its currency has been steadily on the rise for years. It is top 3 in nominal GDP in the middle east, next to Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

>I thought Christians and Jews fundamentally don't get along due to the whole Jesus thing?
Jesus was Jewish. Judaism is a non-missionary religion. As far as religious people go, Jews and Christians are friends. i.e. -> The son of God according to Christianity was Jewish. Meanwhile Judaism does not try to convert others into Judaism, and is happy with them living their lives in whatever way they see fit as long as they're being friendly about it.

>Can someone give me an objective explanation for why we'd stick our neck out for a country that seems to make no sense to back?
It's less about the USA supporting Israel and more about western nations standing together against the opposing forces.

USA, Europe, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, India, stand on one side, whereas on the other side, you have Russian, China, North Korea, the Islamic Regime in Iran, etc.

Israel and Iran may be on the forefront of a current conflict, but they're both insignificant in the grand scheme of things. This isn't about USA helping Israel. It's about USA helping the western bubble it belongs to against those who aren't a part of that bubble, to maintain a relative power advantage.

You may not like Israel, but ask yourself this, would you rather side with commies and sandniggers? Most westerners don't, so they choose Israel.

>>508311416
Jesus did complete Judaism. The church is Israel. Look up the catholic stance on that, I didn't pull that out of my ass.
Modern news are rabbinic jews who layered their oral torah into the mishnah into coming up with a way to be jews without the second temple existing.
The modern state of israel is a nation state that happens to share the same name and region that has nothing to do with the Israel of the Bible.

I keep getting "system thinks post is spam", I think because of post ID replies so I'm replacing >> with ()

(508309791)

Really insightful.

(508310080)

Do you genuinely believe the support/ties are primarily due to threat of blackmail?

(508310083)

Sounds reasonable, although this bit:

>They use 'muh' to generate sympathy ...

It's not a healthy mentality to wish death upon an entirety of a peoples (this is one of organized religion's worst symptoms) -- but that's neither here nor there.

(508310239), (508310301), (508310845)

Useful posts, ty

>>508308821 (OP)
US wants cheap oil. There's lots of oil in Middle East. Pretending to care about Israel lets US start endless wars and steal the oil.

>>508310899
>How is it possible?
Scofieldism combined with highly mutable range of protistantism in the USA.
Essentially, Elite banker Jews paid a guy (Scofield) to distribute an interpretation of the bible that would lead Christians to believe Christ's return would follow jews returning to israel.

American Protistantism is rife with constant schisms, mutating throughout our history which resulted in many such unusual forms like Mormonism, Jehova's witnesses or 7th Day Adventists.

Basically without a central church like the Catholics or Orthodoxies, Protestants got into some very weird shit.

Christianity being an abrahamic religion that derives it's mythologies from israelites, it's not surprise that some sort of "Racial worship" behavior would eventually arise regardless of Jewish intervention or not, it's not disimiliar to how Islam for example places such emphasis on Arabs that the ethnically separate Berbers often claim they're arabs.
When you have a protagonist people in your religion, it sucks knowing you were a convert and not of the core people, so you either claim you always were them or worship them.

>>508311652
Jess and Christians are not friends. Rabbinical Judaism is a heresy of your claimed faith. You wrote down your oral torah, which is forbidden, and you lawyer your way around not having to sacrifice at the non existent second temple. You massacred the Samaritans after said destruction as well and destroyed their temple out of spite. You joined the Arabs in raiding the holy land, where they had to separate you from Christians because you kept slaughtering them.
The Jewish religion of the time of Jesus is not Rabbinical Judaism, it never was. It is a bastardization of the original faith.
Just by attempting to deceive Christians with this phrase, not even mentioning what the Talmud says about Jesus, you've caused a chillul hashem. You've brought disgrace to jews and judaism, and God's name is being blasphemed because of you and your actions.
Christ is King, anon. It's not too late to read the new testament.

>>508308821 (OP)
they assassinated JFK and ever since US politicians have been shit scared of them

>>508311643
>why US supported the Arabs states in the Seuz crisis to accommodate pan-arabism

well it doesn't give the answer you think it would give

>>508311853
that's fucking retarded
siding with israel is the opposite of what you'd do if you wanted to trade for oil and bargain its price down
this is all about jews capturing US politicians with bribes and blackmail and always has been

>>508311686
Good luck.

Perdonally i am always impressed by the inconsistency of Israel's and judaism's enemies, so perhaps there is an element of "The malicious crazeys think they are terrible so the opposite seems more likely.", enemy of an enemy and all that.

USA is a vassal state.
Trumps either lost control or just utterly betrayed his base. Another words he's betrayed 95% of the US population policy wise if that's the case.
Keep in mind at least 50% of the US voter base already didn't like him.

I disavow Trump.

>>508311050
>>508311416
>>508311418

Thanks

>>508311652
Really solid, thanks, though:

> would you rather side with commies and sandniggers?

I support individual rights, regardless of whether or not I agree with those individuals.

Iran's regime and breed of Islam seems to be oppressive of autonomy, the rights of an individual, and freedom, so I'm opposed on that principle alone.

>>508311874
>Elite banker Jews paid a guy (Scofield) to distribute an interpretation of the bible that would lead Christians to believe Christ's return would follow jews returning to israel.

Is there any objective evidence of this?

It sounds plausible, but that's a strong statement to make without citations.

>>508308821 (OP)
This place is 99% bots now, so here is the deal: Jews control everything from education, government, media, military, economy and everything else. They have created networks which ensure that all politicians will do whatever they want and will blackmail them. They brainwashed all Christian boomers to support Israel. Jews recognize that christianity is fake because they created itself that and don't hate christianity but don't want to convert into this, so they fuel up some small hate between the groups to keep the lesser jews jewish.

>>508310845
>close to as impressive as Russia

>>508311658
Read
>>508311874
It's a "core people" vulnerability.

The nuance of saying that "Israel" as identified as a group of people with a covenant with god, that was expanded into the form of a missionary religion is not easily understood but the vast majority of Christians, even Catholics.
To understand the primitiveness of it, the fact that Christians believe the land itself has a divine connection is evidence that there isn't an understanding of this nuance.

I literally possess a piece of rock cut from Jerusalem my catholic grandmother gave me, supposedly blessed from the pope at the time. She believed it had special powers, that sort of primitive animism stuff is always a theological drag.

Point being, it's easier to believe God himself is literally standing on that desert for most Christians than to understand the nuance of their own religion.

>>508312564
I know the nuances of my religion. Stop being a kike. Jews are only included if they join the church and accept Jesus.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/israel-and-the-church
https://realclearcatholic.com/2018/06/13/the-catholic-church-is-the-kingdom-of-israel/

>>508312538
You can moan about Russia as long as you like but neither Israel nor its enemies have ever gotten close to that sort of power.

Ukraine sort-of-holding on versus them is not a victory but it is impressive.

>>508308821 (OP)
>I've never posted here before
Stopped reading there.
Lurk moar faggot.

>>508312299
>Elite banker Jews paid a guy (Scofield) to distribute an interpretation of the bible that would lead Christians to believe Christ's return would follow jews returning to israel.
>Is there any objective evidence of this?
the "elite banker jews" part is made up.
scofield reference Bible does exist and does attempt to lay out a theological framework that supports christian zionism within a dispensationalist framework, but it wasn't written or funded by the jews.

>>508311853

That feels like it could have been true in the recent past, but the trends on energy investment and oil prices suggest a bleak future for the oil industry.

Even major players in the field are investing in production of alternative energy sources as a form of future-proofing.

>>508312564

Poignant, anon. Though this bit:

>that Christians believe the land itself has a divine connection is evidence that there isn't an understanding of this nuance.

It was my understanding this is a point of contention among Christian denominations?

I read up on this issue just this morning, and the takeaway I got was:

Some faiths, like Protestant/Evangelicals, espouse that "Jerusalem" in physicality is some holy land and possession of it by a certain group of peoples is required for predictions to come true.

Other faiths, like Catholicism, interpret "Jerusalem" in a metaphysical sense and don't stake importance on ownership/inhabitance of the physical place itself.

>>508308821 (OP)
The American government is entirely captured by Jews and their foreign lobby, AIPAC. Its colloquially known as ZOG, Zionist Occupied Government.

Every single US flag should be assumed first and foremost to be an enemy of the white man.
If they are not posting interracial pornography and working to destroy white societies with mass migration (multicultural dystopia) they are forcing their deviant democratic systems onto the people of this good earth, which are not democratic and simply theatre.

Where we are given a choice between two controlled oppositions who promise everything but deliver nothing but more corruption, poverty and crime. While every year Jews enrich themselves and the people become more and more disenfranchised & disillusioned with their ZOG.

Its time to stop giving anyone authority over your life and realise that all these silly people claiming to be in power are not. Their laws, their rules, it can all be ignored as they are just games for children who fear the absurdity of what life truly is.

>>508309331

>>508308821 (OP)
judeo-christian values

>>508313157
The latter bit about catholicism shoukd be put into proper context, as crysades to gain physical ownership of Jerusalem predate protestantism.

Keep in mind catholicism is not the monolith it likes to present itself as and has changed over the long ages that it has been present.

>>508312299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROWXV7QJlkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvnMTDW25S4
>>508312754
>In know the nuances
Most Christians clearly do not.

>>508310301
>Israel is the only US ally in the region
Not much of an ally, if you ask me.

>>508311652
>Israel has a large engineering and sciences sector and it's exporting a lot of intellectual property to the USA

>>508308821 (OP)
AIPAC and Evangelicals. They have some weird end time prophecy about Israel. Ted Cruz was just talking about it with Tucker. My sister became born again and she also believes the same crazy shit. Jews become sacred to them

>>508308821 (OP)

>>508312135
There's good evidence that Israel was deeply involved in the assassination of the Kennedy brothers:

https://archive.org/details/finaljudgmentmichaelcollinspiper

https://rumble.com/v2h4a92-jfk-israel-and-the-assassinations-of-the-kennedy-brothers-laurent-guynot.html

Then there's the strange death of Congressman James Traficant, who was a fierce critic of Israel:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qu4tErglwjK8/

If they can't bribe you or blackmail you, they'll just murder you.

>>508311416
Yeah but that's just not true. Jews deny Christ and worship Moloch. Their holy book is the Babylonian talmud and it reads like a modern day law book (because Jews wrote them) but with more pedophilia and white hatred in it. They've psyopd us into conflation the modern nation state of Israel with the biblical one and they're completely different.

>>508313157
>Some faiths, like Protestant/Evangelicals, espouse that "Jerusalem" in physicality is some holy land and possession of it by a certain group of peoples is required for predictions to come true.
protestantism has 2 main categories, mainline and evangelical.

there's mainline (lutheran[most], methodist, presbyterians[some], episcopalians)
they're often open to modern interpretations of the bible, support women's ordination, and accept lgbt bullshit.
typically leftists.

then there's evangelical (baptist, most non-denoms, etc)
they're typically right wing.

within evangelicalism, you've got a subset called dispensationalism (as opposed to covenant theology), a theological framework that's obsessed with end-times prophecy and reads Revelation like a playbook. the loudest voices within this camp (john hagee, pat robertson) are hardcore zionists, but dispensationalism doesn't necessary imply zionism. some focus more on the theological mechanics (timelines, tribulations, antichrist) without tying it to modern israel's politics or borders.

>>508308821 (OP)
Started with masons who wanted to shape the world so that it fulfills certain prophecies that will trick god into returning. Then it simply became due to money and sexual blackmail. Nothing so exciting. There's still masonic Zionists trying to bring god back but the majority are just honey potted and blackmailed or massively in debt in other ways.

>>508314444
>chrtistcuck golem wasting digits
parcel

>>508314080
>They have some weird end time prophecy about Israel
It is unfortunately more real than you and 99% of this board realize and it has very little to do with biblical prophecies than it does what the CIA recovered from a fallen UFO in Aztec, New Mexico.

>>508308821 (OP)
You are living in big israel, it's as simple as that

>>508311416
>There is a common belief among Christians here (probably in the US too) that Jesus did not come to oppose Judaism, but to "complete" it.
This is why we called them christcucks btw :))) or maybe it's just more VPN kike in disguise. 50/50.

>>508308821 (OP)
The ability to have a military presence and boots on the ground for any major conflict anywhere in the world within 24 hours is not something that any other nation in the world can do, but is a core part of the US’ strategy. Israel is not only a good military customer, pro-west, incredible at espionage/intelligence, and competent, but are insanely important to our logistics for that section of the world. The fact that there is a religious link between American Christianity and the Jews is the icing on the cake. Sure we have other ally’s like the Saudis, but they are mainly our friends just because we give them money.

>>508308821 (OP)
>Just give me a straight, no-BS answer. Thanks.
rich mutts want to fuck an kill kids for some reason. kikes provide these kids an video the event. then they use this vidya to make rich mutts do whatever they want.

>>508308821 (OP)
>why is the US supportive of Israel?
Israel is a US proxy to fight non-marionette muslims such as Iran now and Egypt with almost everyone else before without US citizens dying or with less of them dying.

>>508308821 (OP)
blackmail

>>508317589
>we need an alliance israel to kill all our enemies in the middle east, who we never had before we allied with israel

>>508317589
There are also kurds in syria, but they are weaker and their supply is harder and they are muslims, so they will be less effective against other muslims.

>>508308821 (OP)
If the global unifiers are trying to crash the us dollar to sacrifice america for geopolitical ends of a cabal. Cant we twarth their plans by simply all holding 20 usd cash in our wallet? Thats 8 billion people holding 20 dollars cash thats 160 billion dollars in cash worldwide in circulation. This would create a buffer cause if they would then hyperinflate the dollar they would literally hit us in our wallet, theyre simply not gonna do that cause theyre scared to piss people off. The wanna isolate usa from the rest of the world but if we all hold 20 usd in cash theyre not isolated.

Jackson also is no mistake, the bankers are outplayed again cause basically the world pop holding 20 dollar cash is a quasi bankrun

The true paper wallet

Even if you dislile americans we can still somehow use their monetary system against their hijackers by using their currency as a global citizen. Cant crash it if its used globally. So it twarths their trump isolationist warmachine plans

I know it sounds counter productive but if its in cash it cant be controlled by buttons if we have iron hands

The only problem is convincing the entire world to hold 20 dollar in cash is kinda hard cause the third world lives on couple dollars a day. So for them thats a big chunk. Perhaps defectors in the us government should airdrop ricw bags with a couple dollars inside each bag so red cross can distribute dollars equallly to people. Global demons outplayed. I dont even like america that much but you gotta give credit where credit is due, they have a solid currency if people really care about it and ignore all the debt that was imposed upon it
Its basicallly a bunch of lies by evil people, cant crash it if people still gonna use it as currency globally. Dont worry if youre holding yuan yen or euro this is not an attack on you but its simply an honest equasion you have to make.

>>508308821 (OP)
There is this ongoing myth in US politics that Church and State are separate but that's never been true. The cult of Deists in the oligarchy buy into the generational lie that cozying up to Jews is the key to getting in good with YHWH, who is their Christ's Big Daddy. But the reality is that Israel is a parasite state and no one's true friend, and even Jews in the US are tools to them.

>>508317682
>who we never had before we allied with israel
they are not US enemies, they are independent governments who are not US vassals. US (US' companies, elites, and etc) wants to control resources and fully-controlled authorities to protect their investments

>>508308821 (OP)
1. Israel as a nation was made in part for Western powers to have more influence over the Middle East.

2. Evongolical Christians believe Jewish people need to live in Isreal becouse the bibel says it will make Jesus come back or some shit.

3. Israel gets invaded a lot and has its legitimacy questioned all the time, so in retaliation, they have expanded their borders. They have tried to get peace deals going for pretty much their whole existence (even willing to give up land), but the Islamic religion says that all Jewish people need to be genocided and they cannot live in the geographic location of Israel. So peace is pretty much impossible, dealing with Islamic monsters, and since Israel is a Western ally, they get assistance.

>>508308821 (OP)
>What is the deal with the US and Israel?
jews invented god, and because of that they can easily herd morons around. every retard left europe for the usa so they could be more free to pretend the jews know god

>>508317682
>america never had enemies in the middle east prior to 1948
read a history book

>>508315943
they can do something about it, but they need to invest on me heavily with no restrains. my bodyguard glowies can confirmed that if there's any doubt.

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>>508311596
Aisha isn't gonna have sex with you bro.

Where we started:
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>>508310921
>Muslims post a lot of Jew stuff yeah

>>508310911
which model is that, most of the web searching one are garbage, only these ones actually cite shit that actually says what they say: sonar-reasoning and gemini2.0 and 2.5 pro, 2.5 flash is garbage and this is what for example they use for google answers or default gemini

>>508308821 (OP)
Israel has captured the USA in a similar way to how the British captured India.
In the case of India, there were more battles, but the outcomes is the same. The smaller nation completely dominates the political, economic, and military system of the much larger imperial holding. The US literally pays tribute to Israel in the form of grants, loans that are never repaid, military equipment, and now soldiers.
Its unusual but not unheard of for smaller countries to take over larger ones for periods of time. It's hard to find an example as extreme as Israel and the US, but the conquest has been aided by technology, communications, and the secular decline of the US political class.

It's worth keeping in mind that the Israelis, as part of their national security strategy, absolutely do control and have subjugated multiple larger Arab countries around them. Jordan was the first of these. Egypt came later with US support. Syria has been smashed. Saudi Arabia and the UAE and other gulf states are allies in all but name. In every case the wider population is openly against the arrangement, but the Arab political class is ready to tow the line. See the recent Egyptian crackdowns on Gaza peace protests for a clear example.
Compared to the Arab states, the EU is rather mild, But the US is completely captured by Israel and the control is going to be there for a while.

Watch Tucker Carlson interview Ted Cruz.
It will explain everything(make you more confused than ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YASYaPgDKLU&

>>508308821 (OP)
America is controlled by the jews.

>>508311643
Here's: sonar-reasoning-pro-high

>>508319694
>Aisha
who?

im not some big nosed semite dipshit, only in your retarded jew brain

Jews fully control the Russian, Chinese, and US Governments, and have for more than a century.

Look at the image on this German Magazine cover from 1943.

It is now 2025 and the Jewish Octopus is ready to start World War 3.

World War 3 will make the Goyim yearn and clamor for a peace-ensuring One World Government, which happens to be run by Satanic Jews.

>>508308821 (OP)
Christianity.

>>508319796
in reality though,
the relationship between israel and the US is a strategic alliance between two sovereign nations, not a colonial occupation like british india.
the US isn't "captured" by israel, we are a global superpower with our own foreign policy objectives.
while we do provide military aid to israel (as we do to other allies), this is not "tribute" but part of a bilateral relationship with mutual strategic interests.
the claim that US "pays tribute" via grants, loans, and military aid ignores that such aid is CONDITIONAL and serves US strategic interests (like maintaining influence in the middle east, countering iran, and supporting a democratic ally)

while israel has military superiority in the region, the claim that it "controls" or has "subjugated" arab states like jordan egypt and saudi arabia is hyperbolic.
egypt and jordan have peace treaties with israel but aren't "subjugated", their polcies are driven by their own national interests (counterterrorism, economic ties with the US, etc).
syria has been devastated by civil war, not israeli conquest.
gulf states (saudi arabia, UAE) have normalized relations with israel due to shared concerns about iran, not because they are under israeli control. the claim that arab populations are "openly against" these arrangements while elites "tow the line" oversimplifies the complex political dynamics.
egypt's restrictions on gaza-related protests are driven by its own security policies (preventing hamas-linked unrest), not evidence of israeli control over egypt.
hamas are crazy bastards that no one wants in their countries.

>>508311050
barbary pirates were a problem for any country, not just USA, and they were pirates den first and most, not comparable at all with other muslim realities of the time. In the region, Morocco was the first country to recognize american indipendence. Muslims didn't care about america, until USA started to care about middle east.

>>508320391
Well then you're just ignorant. That's fine lmao

>>508308821 (OP)

Jews hate Christianity and the US is filled with apostate demon worshipers who serve Satan

>>508311416
Modern christianity position on the jews was retconned by WWII, with an exception. Evangelicals were pro Israel even before

>>508320812
>the claim that it "controls" or has "subjugated" arab states like jordan egypt and saudi arabia is hyperbolic.
Sure, uhhuh

>>508308821 (OP)
Us government was taken over by Israeli intelligence long ago, prob since JFK.

>>508308821 (OP)
The entire western world is built on the religion of WW2. Jews are the saints in that story no matter what they do, Hitler is the devil, and everything he stands for, White people having their own sovereign nation without usury theft from the federal reserve system.
Regarding Christianity, Zionism was invented around the 19th/20th century and they made the entire Christian world believe that "the Jews" are the ancient people of the Bible (Israel) and are somhow "holy" for God. Just look at them, they are of course not ancient Israelites, they are mutli-racial peoples, Khazars and Arabs and what not, antichrists (1John 2:22) and the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9, 3:9), and they are not in the New Covenant and they don't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ and blaspheme him with their satanic religion which is based on the talmud (not the Old Testament). I don't know how this works, I guess Christians just don't read the Bible. Instead they think labeling something "Israel" makes it the Israel of the Bible. Same way you would label a box full of shit with "flowers" and then everyone just believes that box full of shit is full of flowers. That's how this entire corporate world works, with labels.
America can not just back up from all these false concept immediately, it would cause a lot of unrest and instability in the west, and America also has an interest in that region in the middle east. It's not just a tiny irrelevant country, it is a foot on one of the most important economic region in the world between Europe, Asia, and Africa.

>>508308821 (OP)
Israeli Mossad have been running blackmail operations in the US since before any of us were born. All US politicians that matter are blackmailed by Israel and will always do whatever Israel wants them to do.

>>508308821 (OP)
Despite what some people want you to think, democracy doesn't prevent political corruption, and all U.S. politicians line their pockets with bribes.
>But what about the Democrats? They are supporting Muslims right now!
That's just a trick that they do to act like there is any side other than their own, so people are too busy arguing with each other instead of realizing that the politicians are lying snakes who are no different from foreign agents. In reality, if Republicans were all against Israel, then Democrats would be the ones defending them, and we'd still be in the same spot.

>>508308821 (OP)
the only non muslim shithole in the region that can easily dominate them and have the greatest warfare experience in the world.
the highest quality regional intelligence, provide technological solutions that allow proof of concept within real environment, share common motives and ideals which enables trust.
people of high status and sense in the US see israel as an unbreakable ally.
much of what the US has been able to do in the middle east is thanks to israel vice versa.

the reason you live in the greatest power in the world and mexico hasn't conquered you yet is because your leadership is doing the opposite of what you want them to do.

>ask about israel
>no schizo rants

Yeah ok good luck

Us supports israel because they are their ally against islamist extremists in middle east

>>508320890
the barbary pirates weren't just pirates, they were state sanctioned jihadists operating under the ottoman regencies and north african sultanates, explicitly framing their raids as jihads against non-muslims. their targeting of american ships wasn't random piracy but part of a broader ideological conflict demanding tribute or conversion, as seen in their own diplomatic correspondence with jefferson.

jefferson recounts the ambassador's explanation that tripoli's actions were
>"founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners."

while morocco's early recognition of US independence is a fair point, it was an outlier driven by pragmatic trade interests, not a reflection of broader muslim sentiment toward america.