i just dont understand why we gotta import 500 million jeets and put kids on hrt in order to have socialism. weird position im in where both sides would hate me lol

>>508308912 (OP)
This is the real red pill, don't fall for the kosher "right" and their we sold out our national resources to foreigners and lowered immigration from 400k a year to 320k. We saved the country bros, also PS I would die for Israel

>>508308912 (OP)
Thats what national socialism is dumbass

im left wing until i have to pay taxes on crypto to crypto exchange

>>508308912 (OP)
Nah the nazis were the same thing

>>508309464
Also tell tale signs of the kosher right
>Packed to the brim with weirdoes and degenerates
>Bunch of buffoonery and bluster
>Israel worship
>Once they get to power it will be the same milquetoast conservacuck politics of prostituting the homeland to foreigners because nothing is more sacred than GDP other than licking some rabbis anus
>We saved the country by lowered immigration by 50k
SD, AFD, UKIP, Meloni, Bolsonaro, Trump etc are cut from the same cloth.

>>508308912 (OP)
that's what national socialism, aka natsoc, aka nazism, is you brain giant. As it happens a good half or more of this board have always been nazis

>>508308912 (OP)
if only there was a political movement that encapsulated these ideas

>>508309567
>508310060

lol no, Nazi Germany still had private corporations and was also paying its debts to western countries lmao, while the USSR had no banks and every industry was nationalized

>>508308912 (OP)
>am I the only one who’s economically left, socially right
No. Lot’s of people describe themselves at communists, socialists etc yet hold conservative ideas. But if you read Marx who tells you to criticize everything in existence you will find he has mostly leftist social values. But his reasoning is different to liberals.

>>508310471
National socialism is much older than nazi germany though
Also
>ussr had no banks
Kek

>>508312277
In the Communist Manifesto Marx along with the other communists state that the working man, or proletarian, has no country. He is oppressed by the bourgeoisie who do. Nationalists will tell the proletarian that he has to work with his nation’s bourgeoisie, that they have shared interests but they have diametrically opposed ones. The bougeois who owns the means of production employs the proletarian to make profits. He wants to take everything from the proletarian he can, pay him as little as possible, no benefits etc and the proletarian wants higher wages, and frees himself by seizing the means of production with the rest of his class.

We see class collaboration most often promoted in warfare. Let’s look at Ukraine and Russia for example. The Russian bourgeois says they must invade to denazify Ukraine, and the Ukrainian bourgeois says the “people” must fight to save the motherland from invasion. But what does the homeless Ukrainian have to gain from war? Getting their legs blown off by a drone so they can go back to homelessness once the war is over? What does the Ukrainian worker have to gain from defending “his” country? Being robbed, oppressed, and scammed by people speaking Ukrainian instead of Russian? The arbitrary line on a map staying the same instead of changing? What quarrel does the Ukrainian hobo have with his Russian counterpart? The proletarian has the least to gain from warfare and the most to lose. The wealthy bourgeois can always move to another country and live fairly well off if his country goes to hell, but the proletarian will likely remain stuck. If he can move, he may be taken in by a country looking to use his desperation as an opportunity for low wages.

>>508308912 (OP)
Please give me a qrd on how Stalin got rid of kikes in his government. I remembering hearing something about that and also jews really seem to hate him.

>>508308912 (OP)

No you're just following actual socialist beliefs before neolibs co-opted the movement after realizing neoliberalism failed

>>508313572
He didn't, he wasn't really antisemitic, he only had a problem with Jews that were more loyal to Judaism than socialism, that's why he used the term "rootless cosmopolitans".

What a strange idea, like some sort of fusion of both nationalism....and socialism.....it's worth a try, OP

>>508313572
By the end of the 40s he realized jews were a 5th column and started purging them from every influential position in government and society, to the point where american communists were accusing him of antisemitism.

There was a plot by jewish doctors (the doctors plot) of "accidentally" killing soviet officials during surgery and whatnot. Stalin shut down all jewish religious and cultural institutions but he wasnt antisemitic enough, his own doctor was an ethnic jew and he didnt get rid of him. When stalin collapsed in his room he was quickly found by his staff, he lied passed out on the floor. His jewish doctor refused to give him any treatment whatsoever for like 15 hours and then he went back and stalin was dead. He was replaced by a jewish dictator.

>>508313898
Except hitler was hardly socialist, not a single capitalist was threatened by his existence

>>508313436
>Nationalists will tell the proletarian that he has to work with his nation’s bourgeoisie
No

J.V. Stalin was the saviour of the white race.

>>508314352
>not a single capitalist was threatened by his existence
Which is why the whole capitalist world allied with the communists to defeat him... makes sense

>>508314352
>not a single capitalist was threatened by his existence
I mean, he redistributed wealth from the Jews and nationalized a shit load of industries.

>>508314575
shut the fuck up faggot Shitler literally murdered actual national socialists to cozy up to Krupp and others

>>508314575
Don't mix things up
If he was socialist then the German bourgeoisie would fear him. The only reason the world allied against him was his stupid expansionist goals, no one would care otherwise.

>>508314692
Plenty of stuff is nationalized in capitalist countries, that's not very surprising.

>>508308912 (OP)
>am i the only one whos economically left wing but socially right wing?
No, virtually everyone is now which is why Globohomo persecutes such parties/movements the most harshly

>>508314725
memeflag off

>>508314725
>the German bourgeoisie would fear him.
They do ? Go to Berlin and makes a nazi salute. See what happens

>>508314819
Yes but the way it worked in Nazi Germany was much closer to the CCP than modern western countries. In Nazi Germany, if the state wanted to nationalize your industry or seize your wealth, you had no recourse. They just did it.

>>508313107
>ussr had no banks
It had one bank which was state controlled, Nazi Germany had a ton of private banks.

>>508308912 (OP)
Nah, there's a lot of guys who are similar. For example I share a lot with libertarians but open borders is obviously not something I think is good.

>>508314692
The wealth expropriated from Jews in the Aryanization campaign wasn't distributed to Germans in general, it was forced onto the market and purchased by the German bourgeoisie and petit bourgeoisie. German proletarians were repressed and disciplined a lot by the Nazis. Even pro-Nazi unions were banned, the German Labor Front eventually made it functionally illegal for you to quit without permission from your boss and by the middle of the war there was an exponentially growing class of slave laborers driving down German wages.

>>508314963
Don't play dumb.
I'm obviously talking about the period his regime lasted, it's pretty much a capitalist country today.

>>508315369
Even calling Aryanization expropriation is wrong lol

>>508313572
Read The Prince by Machiavelli

>>508314989
Then why did they attack CCCP, a socialist country?

>>508313436

Well that was Stalin’s big innovation. Or I guess you could say deviation from orthodox Marxism which is international and rejects the concept of countries.

“Socialism in one country” he called it. Merging socialism with nationalism. Stalin created this hybrid ideology that was Socialist-Nationalism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_one_country

>>508315412
I have no clue what youre even trying to say but youre a memeflag so idc

>>508315512
Because the CCCP was run by jews who wanted (ans still want today) to genocide germans (and all europeans)

>>508314013
>He was replaced by a jewish dictator
Khrushchev wasn't Jewish lol.

Also you're not wrong that the Doctor's Plot was real but you have to get more specific than Jewish and the term Judaism is a bit misleading. The Bolsheviks were against all religion because in Marxist terms religion is false consciousness that prevents workers from seeking material liberation in this life, instead they wait for spiritual liberation in an imagined next left. Especially during Lenin when Soviet anti-clericalism was at its height with things like the League of the Militant Godless but also during Stalin there were campaigns to "bolshevize" Soviet Jews by secularizing them, turning them against their rabbis etc. There are multiple anti-Jewish propaganda posters from the early USSR, here's one from the early Stalin years when the first Five Year Plan had just been announced.

Rootless cosmopolitanism was more about the shift from revolutionary internationalism and experimental culture to socialism in one country and cultural conservatism that happened from the Lenin period to the Stalin period. Complicated but 4chan's character limit is shit so go pick up a book if you want to know more. The Doctor's Plot was a separate issue 20 years later and had much more to do with Zionism than anything. Stalin had initially supported Israel and then shifted to the Arabs. The Israelis didn't take kindly to that shift and it seems there was a kind of covert anti-Stalinist campaign launched by them. You can find anti-Stalinist historians talking about how there were Israeli bombings of Soviet embassies. And there really were Jewish doctors, nobody serious says that part is made up.

>>508308912 (OP)
Stalin would no knock raid your faggot ass at 0400 no toothbrush or clothes everything is provided for come with us please.

>>508316187
Awfully strange that that supposed Jewish terror state didn't genocide Germans, spent most of the Cold War being Israel's biggest opponent and then imploded then isn't it? Read what Hitler and Goebbels wrote in 1945, for them Germans being genocided was not Helga going on a date with Mehmet 100 years in the future because of work visas. They expected something on the level of the Mongols, the end of Germany as a people, and then for the USSR to win the Cold War.
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb49.htm
I guess the Elders of Zion must have changed their minds?

>>508308912 (OP)
Same

>>508317537
They did ethnically cleanse the Germans living in Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia. They were very mad at the Germans for having the audacity to oppose jewish world power.

>>508313436
One of the hardest posts in the last few months. Hats off even though you're a memeflagging Dravidian.

>>508317537
>didn't genocide Germans
They did. See: volga germans
>spent most of the Cold War being Israel's biggest opponent
Tf are you on ? The ussr was the first to recognise pissrael.
>then imploded
Who cares ? Modern russia is still run by jews and putin is flooding russia with nonwhites, all while "denazifying" ukraine

>Helga going on a date with Mehmet 100 years in the future because of work visas
Ah that was just bait... my bad, i fell for it.
Id rate 6/10

>>508308912 (OP)
Economical migration had nothing to do with socialism at all

The point of socialism was to make your living space had everything you need

Your socialist transportation and basic services

The need for mass migration arises from the separation between first world and third world caused by the original accumulation of capitals

That way Rome who ransacked the barbarian lands was richer than germania until Nero burned it down allowing for a germanic invasion, then it was poorer for a couple of centuries and the accumulation of wealth moved to the east empire creating the european dark ages

>>508318716
>The ussr was the first to recognise pissrael
Yeah I mentioned that here >>508317212
For most of the Cold War the USSR was Israel's biggest enemy and it hasn't had an enemy as big since the USSR fell. There was a period in the late 40s and early 50s where that wasn't the case but it was a pretty short period.
>>508318716
>>508317787
Those were population transfers. It's ethnic cleansing but it's not the Morgenthau Plan level set Germany back to the feudal era/sterilize all Germans level genocide that the Nazis were saying was coming in 1945. That genocide never happened. West and East Germany were rebuilt, the great powers let Germany reunify and then the USSR imploded. None of that should have happened if the world is controlled by a cabal of Jews who ran the USSR and wanted to literally exterminate Germans as Hitler and Goebbels believed.

>>508308912 (OP)
And how do you fund your leftie economic policies without infinite jeet slaves?