Can anything be done to solve the situation in greece or have they reached the point of no return?

>>508327816 (OP)
All Balkan countries are corrupt

>>508327816 (OP)
It's not corrupt

>>508327816 (OP)
Turk occupation conditioned the greeks to live under tyrants. We never really 'got' the point of democracy, which is why we vote for the kids of past prime ministers who ruled and rule us like kings, take what they want and give no shit about anyone else. I don't think you can fix that. It's a fundemental element of greek psyche at this point.

>>508328689
Delusional leftist

>>508328273
Γεια σου ρε κουλη με ταστεια σου

>>508328273
>>508328810

The only part of the government that works is the tax enforcers so they can squeeze everything you have.
Fucking hate this shithole

>>508329012
Wrong, the military/police/teachers/doctors etc. also work.

>>508328810
Σαλτα και συ

>>508328881
>>508329216
Communists or woke right

>>508328273
Κοίτα έναν μαλάκα...

>>508328689
its true, the fucking filthy roach dna still infests this country and continues to ruin it to this very day, even if not genetical, their dirty culture and their "look out only for you and fuck everybody else" mindset is still embedded in us. It sounds a lot like the "pay me gibs for slavery n shiee" but there is truth in this arguement. I have no choice but to move out of this shithole and so has everybody else here with a brain and a degree.

>>508327923
ik serbro (and i cant speak for other countries) but greece has and had more than enough resources to reach at the very least Italy's standards in technology, manufacturing and other ways to progress economically.

>>508328689
>we vote for the kids of past prime ministers
Australia, Canada, UK, Italy...and many other non western countries as well
>>508327816 (OP)
>have they reached the point of no return
yes, 2012 was to Greece what 2024 was for USA

Threadly reminder that OG democracy had little to no representative bullshit and was realistically immune to bribing/lobbying.

*raises paw*

>>508329392
Cope

>>508327816 (OP)
Croatia

>>508329908
Unironically based.
I bought my vax papers from your country.
Barely 500 leva, while they rest of the faggots in this thread got vaccinaids and turbocancers waiting to happen.

>>508328689
I don't think it's turk DNA, byzantine court politics were the same, if anything , we ruined the Turks.
Truth is, Greeks never cared about the nation as a whole, just their local city-state/area. Urbanization was the worst thing to happen to us, it amplified all our faults. Everyone knows the system is corrupt, so they support the corrupt guy that will support them

>>508330383
i didn't get vaxxed at all and i even went through military so it was tough to make it but legally they can't violate your bodily autonomy and you need to push a little and they crumble cause lawsuits here as you know friend barely ever materialize with how backlogged courts are, especially during covid
>>508329410
It's a very shit situation but we will pull through man and purge the roaches once and for all, a new Greece will be born from the ashes, but first i need a piss

Greece got brain drained in the 1950s and 1960s, millions left for America, Canada, Briton, Australia, etc

Greeks are some of the richest people in Australia, they bought a ton of land and property here and now have insane asset net worth

>>508330056
i don't think you know the meaning of the word
>>508329204
schools, understaffed, 3d world facilities
hospitals, understaffed, full of oldfart personnel
military, we can't know for sure unless we go to war (remember Libya?)
Police, second largest police force per 100k in the EU and still we had the 6th highest crime rate for 2023, the country is hotspot for every neighboring mafia organization but i guess we are safe from weed dealers

>>508331666
>we can't know for sure unless we go to war
We've all served, it's barely functional, nobody wants to join (look at entrance score dropping each year) and hundreds of personnel left when we sent a ship to Yemen

>>508327816 (OP)
They are fuck, no country that reaches bankrupt can "fix anything" on our times of merciless debt collection

The banks don't wanna lose power and that means the nation states must lose theirs

>>508331666
Have you lived in many third world countries? Nothing is wrong with Greece except the attitudes of Greek people. Others (such as Albanian immigrants) are doing just fine. Either change, or be replaced. Your choice.

>>508331977
Found the ΔΑΠfag
Unironically kys on Livestream

>>508332268
It's your choice to be angry and whiney ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>508332634
You're underaged, aren't you?

>>508332703
Of course not!

>>508331977
>Nothing is wrong with Greece except the attitudes of Greek people

i bet the people of North Korea hear the same thing, you clearly live in your own little bubble, whatever

>>508327816 (OP)
Sure it can. What are the biggest problems you have bros?

Looking at the numbers Hungary is the most corrupt.

Ehm ehm...

>>508333019
High taxation and inflatoon, huge embezzlement, politicians in the pockets of big business and mafia, most police per population in Europe but lots of areas are high crime, justice system backlogged to death and punishments are very light, understaffed hospitals that get shut down instead of invested in, only investment is in real estate which creates 0 long term jobs, worker unions are mostly dead and people vote based on who they know in the government for personal benefit

>whine about Turks
>remind everyone of how strong and Ancient Greece is
>we will reclaim Constantinople
>can’t even drill our national waters


KWAB, we’re in a perpetual state of coping against the Kara bogs abating some deus ex machina to destroy turkey so we can exercise our most basic sovereignty in our own territory.

Also military dictatorship sympathisers and collaborators need to hang

>>508327816 (OP)
Incompetent people. Last recorded success was inventing buoyancy of water by incident 3000 years ago.

>>508333760
Your country is still somehow worse off my nigga, stop coping

>>508332974
The people of North Korea can't do anything to improve the situation. You can, but prefer WHINING, because you're copying your parents/grandparents/neighbors/TV who are also whining. This is what happens when people believe that they are owed a good life because their "ancestors" did things 2500 years ago.

>>508333760
Your Muslim Greek kek

>>508333760
a turkified mutt talks about achievements

>>508328273
Greek companies own more than a third of all ships in the world, yet pay literally 0 taxes on that.

>>508334437
That's based. Every whiner ITT could be working on these ships making 10k/month.

>>508334235
>implying Greece has democracy
This is why I hate you selfish faggots, even if you "pull yourself by your boot straps and IMPROOV" and succeed via hard work and luck, it won't mean the rest of your society, your community, your people are not suffering the threat of poverty under a corrupt system.

>>508327816 (OP)
Here

(and unironically, you're a citizen of one of these countries, maybe both too)

>>508329728
However, it was vulnerable to the assembly making retarded decisions based on appeals to emotion because some rhetorician gave a really good speech.

>>508333422
>worker unions are mostly dead
and that's a good thing, days of pasokistan syndicalism ruined our economy and work ethic.

>>508333422
>Taxation and inflation
Yeah that's a bitch, high taxation can work if the money from them is spent well, but it isn't.
>Embezzlement, corrupt politicians
Same as in rest of the Europe, Balkans only democratized it so a regular man can enjoy in it too.
>High crime areas
illegal migrants?Let me guess if police tries to act ngos and brussels raise a fit and police now don't bother with it?
Rest you mentioned is pretty much the same here, there's some industrial production but a lot of investments are in real-estate

>>508334235
watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpFvL70AXEM
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLQNJPg9lH4
and tell me again what it is that i can personally do to improve the situation? (not MY situation)

>>508327816 (OP)
In on med thread

>>508334695
There's no need to hate anyone. You can probably get a job earning lots of money if you tried. I have personally seen very stupid people do this.

>>508334564
basically none of those ships are greek flagged though

>>508334990
Stop falling for lefty slop and do something useful. If you're not earning >3000/month, you have nothing useful to say. You earn less than an African American.

>>508335055
Well obviously oil prices are very high, just go to the oil zone and start a bussiness

>>508335128
Doesn't matter, the flag isn't a big source of income anyway.

>>508327816 (OP)
Wake me up when Tsipras comes back with a party that unites the center left and left to depose that kike faggot koulis
Till that happens I don't care about anything.

>>508334889
While that's true, it's not that current systems are any better, the rhetoric game is as relevant as ever. But the major thing was that even when those retarded decisions were made, they were not long lasting, most decisions and positions were not by design.

>>508335163
>t. Periklis Adhominidis
you are insufferable

>>508335239
well idk if its the same in Greece, but in the US there are laws saying US flagged vessels can only employ people who can work in the US, and must pay them US wages. So when all the US shipping companies changed their fleets to foreign flags all the good merchant marine jobs stopped existing, because now you have to compete with Filipinos who will work for third world wages.

>>508327816 (OP)
Elect Xi Jinping. China was much more corrupt before him

>>508333019
digital ID enformcent and slow transfer to the digital euro curency, globohomo polticians in all the huge poltical branches, apathetic population, abandoment by any ally.
>>508329728
αν θυμασαι λιγο την ιστορια της αρχαιας ελλαδος, ξερεις οτι η δημαγωγια ηταν χοντρο προβλημα απο τοτε. δες τον κλεωνα π.χ.
>>508329421
το 2015 με τον τσιπρα θα βαλω. οχι σημαινει ναι, το θα το ρισκαρουμε με το αιγαιο, οτι μαλακιες κανανε στην χιο και το μακεδονικο με την προδοσια των πρεσπων διχνουν ποσο πραγματικα μετραγε η γνωμη μας για αυτους

>>508335313
>Tsipras
Wow, we are going to escape from Scylla right onto Charybdis, so based!

>>508335605
>>508335432

>>508335473
He is the new Varoufakis, looking for useful idiots to build his political career and make money out of you. Stop looking for saviors on YouTube. You are not supposed to "save the Greek economy ", leave that for economics PhD's and billionaires. Buy a house first. Every Greek at the kafeneio thinks he's Pericles.

>>508335613
He's Andreas 2.

>>508335586
We don't have that kind of labor protection, no. There are both Greeks (officers) and non-Greeks (crew) in Greek-owned, foreign-flagged ships.

ohh n...

Pay back the debt and things will improve

>>508336034
Uhmmmmmmmmmmm...
Nooooooooooo.

>>508327816 (OP)
England. It is by far the most corrupt country in Europe from its government officials to its citizens. They have zero morals and are an island of criminals and cowards.

>>508335605
>οχι σημαινει ναι,
we should have left the EU in 2012 (Merkel implied that those elections were a referendum)
that was the reset we needed, now it's too late even for a reset

>>508335313
ψιλε ξεχασες τι τεμεναδες επλεκε ο τσιπρας στους εβρωπαιους μετα την επισκεψη του για τα μνημονια. δεν εχουμε ηγεσια μα μαριονετες διαφορετικου ειδους.

>>508327816 (OP)
Nations rise and fall, weak peoples get crushed and new ones rise. The Greeks need to be dragged crying and screaming to transparency, meritocracy and modern levels of efficacy, like Lee Kuan Yew did to the uncivilised Singaporean peasants. Mitsotakis made some baby steps but did not go far enough.

The Greeks have a history spanning back thousands of years, but in the grand scheme of things, older civilisations have been wiped from the face of the universe multiple times, and now remain as obscure historic curiosities. It is up to the Greeks to either decide to do better, or face humiliation and then oblivion at the hand of eastern barbarians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JenhzcyY9TY

>>508331565
The people who left were poor retards. The fact that ended up succesful goes on to show how easy it was for boomers

We're way worse, we annuled the elections, we're literally selling all our national security assets, we have foreign dudes in our security council, we have jews give us antisemitic laws where you go to prison for 10 years for speaking ill of jews... we got you beat for sure, at least you have nice beaches, here 2 parents have to pay for 4 if they have 2 kids

I only come back to this country for gyros and beach. I remember when I was too autistic for the likes of this country when I was essentialy barred from buying food because you need to "know someone who knows someone" for even the shittiest most menial least paying jobs ever.

You all can get fucked except the gyros shops.

>>508336034
>pay your debts goy, i won't send you another horde of rapefugees of the religion that sabjucated your ancestors.
stop sounding jewish anon. we are greeks ουκ αν λαβεις παρα του μη εχοντος

corrupter than you

>>508336602
no way dud

>>508327816 (OP)
They're too brown now. It's over for them.

>>508333760
>Incompetent people.

>>508329410
greece got its independence over 200 years ago your victim blaming is pathetic

>>508327816 (OP)
The entire ruling class and a sizable portion of the middle class must be liquidated and then a small fanatical and extremely capable aristocracy must impose a merciless fascistic dictatorship and rule with an iron hand for at least two centuries, before we can talk of hope for Greece.
So, basically, there is no hope.

>>508336011
Show your flag

>>508336994
good goy

>>508336865
Hagia Sophia status?

>>508327816 (OP)
I'm obsessed with greek girls they're the most authentic in Europe
plus anomalous bug fat greek girl asses

>>508336881
That's not what victim blaming is. You mean scape goating.

>>508336865
The modern Greeks have nothing in common with the heroes of Tripolitsa, or even those of Fort Roupel. They are spiritually defeated, not proud, not heroic, not brave. Stop hiding behind hundred-to-thousand year old stories, and try to fix something. But I know you won't, because it's all the "government's fault". You have more in common with an African nigger than a White man.

>>508327816 (OP)
Ukraine is more corrupt (they sold their nation's entire future for several billions and now millions suffer because of their corrupt politicians). Albania, too (a literal cartel country).

>>508337272
>They are spiritually defeated, not proud, not heroic, not brave.
Yes the Dutch are how is this relevant right now?

anons i....
>>508335742
>leave that for economics PhD

the videos i gave him are from a PhD economist who hasn't expressed any political opinion whatsoever, no even once.
now imagine if 20% of your compatriots were exactly like this Greek anon

Ahmm...

>>508337195
you are right

>>508327816 (OP)
Greeks have great food, beautiful women who love to take it up the ass, and a rich cultural history. Leave them alone.

>>508336865
why does this painting pretend theres this much of a skin color difference kek, embarrassing

>>508334894
Balance is needed, what we have now is just as bad

>>508335055
Yeah bro, just git a job :D

>>508336881
They are weak and pathetic, they do not embody the White spirit in any measurable way. It's always Turkey's fault, Germany's fault, Israel's fault, the government's fault. It has never occurred to a modern Greek to ask himself: "Do I want to improve my home and community, and if so, how do I start?"

>>508328689
Delusional. Turks neither took your religion nor your culture away. Balkanniggers always ready to blame the turks for their own shortcomings, yet somehow none of you are muslims or speak turkish. Jewish behaviour.

>>508337389
The videos are from an influencer who appears on Zaralikos because he knows how dumb the people of his country are. Scientists present their ideas to peers, if they have something worthwhile to say.

>>508337582
>Do I want to improve my home and community
No. Fuck them.

>>508337620
t. Erdog mail-in voter

>>508334894
you're either an "employer"(kike) or someone that has never worked a day in his whole life
either way suck a dick

>>508337385
I will charitably assume you're not a Greek financial immigrant in central Europe, which would give you the same standing as a Syrian or a Pakistani.

The people you are defending can't be helped by external factors. They will either wake up and change their ways, or they will be destroyed. They know this too, but they are too cowardly to really fight for change in their personal lives and immediate communities. This is their greatest sin.

>>508337420
His point though, is that Greeks got too used to being imperial subjects, that we lost our ability to organize and do things ourselves. Right or wrong, he's not precisely blaming the Turks. Truth is that Greeks missed out on the Renaissance and some of the Enlightenment.

>>508337825
What the fuck are you babbling about?
Brown.

>>508337676
No goon for survelliance bullshit is a peer of mine

Data collecting methodology just means I drown kittens to me

>>508337272
African niggers have families and trad values, they hate faggots too unlike "white" men, so that's more of a compliment

>>508337825
I bet you are Greek though :D

>>508334794
>you're a citizen of one of these countries
alb*nia is not worth mentioning because its a joke to even refer to this country as european. You can still however call greece european even if its the worst out of all.

Turkey is not european geographically so not included.

>>508338030
Greeks are more like African Americans than Africans :D asking for gibs, protesting, fucking around

Brazil.

>>508338267
VASSILIKI LIKI
KI LIKI LIKI LIKI
KI LIKI LIK

>>508338159
Ok albane

>>508327816 (OP)
france

>>508337905
>Truth is that Greeks missed out on the Renaissance and some of the Enlightenment
You mean the things that were triggered by the re emergence of Classical Greek texts and philosophy? This is like crying that others make better use of the gold pile you are sitting on.

>>508327816 (OP)
Oinkraine.

>>508337705
Either you or your children will live to see your country and history be humiliated and destroyed by those that had a will to fight. Almost certainly Turkey. You are weak, pathetic, and worst of all, spiritually brown.
Show your flag. You're a Greek living abroad, it's clear from the way you talk.

>>508337756
Cry more.
>Everyone is a kike. It's the government's fault. It's my employer's fault. It's the fault of the kikes. The whole system is rigged and I can do nothing to improve it.
This is the mindset of a nigger, not of a White man. Remember this: you are a NIGGER, you are not White, you have nothing in common with Pericles, and if Pericles or Solon heard you say this dogshit, they would spit on your face. You deserve destruction in the hands of the foreign tyrants that bully and humiliate your country on a bimonthly basis.

>>508330155
Now imagine being a siptar in analbania kek

>>508327816 (OP)
There isn't a single country on this hell world that isn't corrupt to the bone. Corruption is how politics work because the system is inherently corrupt and creates corruption.

>>508335605
Digital ID and currency is happening everywhere, same with globohomo politicians in Europe. If they don't go with the flow they either sideline them, vilify them or try to kill them like Fico. People know that, that's why there's apathy. Who abandoned you and over what?

>>508337905
>that we lost our ability to organize and do things ourselves
Problem is that there is 0 public participation of the people in politics here, this has been a despotic state since its inception. It's anti Greek in its spirit, even byzantine farmers had more of a voice

>>508338525
>You're a Greek living abroad, it's clear from the way you talk.
When did I ever hide this fact? I even said it out loud if you scroll up.

>>508327816 (OP)
Ukraine and Serbia.

>>508338620
That's correct, Kontogiorgis enjoyer

>>508338721
I really really like this image

>>508338525
Let me guess.
A greek fucked your mom when she came here for vacation and 9 months later you pop'd out of her belly.
There's no other explanation as to why you are so obsessed with us tbqh.
Also yes this is a "muh dick" arguement.

>>508338907
He is brown

>>508338377
coping retard, what do you want me to say?
I shit on the analbanian flag and their "we wuz" mindset and i think their "country" is an embarassment to be even mentioned as european.

>>508338592
Greece is a particularly tragic case, since they are blessed with a beautiful country and a rich history. Imagine if the US turned into a laughing stock foreign protectorate in 300 years.

>>508338630
Coward, faggot, turncoat, traitor, weakling, freak. You're an insect lower than a Syrian.

>>508337928
You're too illiterate to even understand what I'm saying. Ask ChatGPT to explain my post in retard language.

>>508338999
>Ask ChatGPT to explain my post in retard language
Savunduğun insanlar dış etkenlerle kurtarılamaz. Ya uyanıp yaşam tarzlarını değiştirecekler ya da yok olacaklar. Bunu kendileri de biliyorlar ama kişisel hayatlarında ve yakın çevrelerinde gerçek bir değişim için savaşmaya korkuyorlar. Asıl günahları da bu korkaklık. Değişim için gereken cesareti bulamıyorlar. Bu yüzden kaderlerini kendileri belirlemiş oluyorlar.

>>508338999
Oh no random anon dissaproves!

>>508338907
Literal nigger dick arguments. As I said, you're not White.

I hate the fact that we sent a single cent to your politicians. It never even reached (You), so you can credibly mock me for not paying back. I just bankrolled your politicians for a good two decades.

Turkey will likely bomb you in the coming five years and take an island or two, now that regional wars are no longer a faux pass. If the economic crisis wasn't enough of a humiliation to wake you up, then maybe military defeat will be. And I hate the Turks as much as you.

>>508338999
> Imagine if the US turned into a laughing stock foreign protectorate in 300 years
we don't have to imagine it, reverse Satan.
USA is Israel's bitch through and through.

Greek should be the official language of the (non kiked version of the) EU. It is a simple and "non political" step that would start stirring the right points in the collective subconscious. And gayreeks would be able to finally find a job (language teachers.)
>inb4 Latin
While Latin is western Europe, Greek is literally the fundation of everything European. Everyone else is European by proxy. Also not a dead language (making up neologisms in Latin is a pain in the ass) and quite close to its classical version. And Greece being completely irrelevant makes it easier to shill it as a "neutral language". Italian or any other romance language (like French lmao) are too politically loaded.

>>508339612
Good points IMO. The language is being wasted on us.

>>508339417
>xhe's mad af
LOL

>>508338999
>Imagine if the US turned into a laughing stock
why would i use my imagination when i can just click on the catalog?

>>508327816 (OP)
>Name a more corrupted shithole in Europe
1) Russia
2) Belarus
3) Bosnia and Herzegovina
4) Serbia
5) Ukraine
6) North Macedonia
7) Hungary
8) Albania
9) Bulgaria
10) Moldova
11) Kosovo
12) Malta
13) Montenegro
14) Romania
15) Croatia

>>508340010
TRVKE
Honestly though, Greece isn't that corrupt. Just the people lack ambition.

>>508327816 (OP)
We are. Even Greece has a higher minimum wage than we do.
You do not suffer on the Greece

I fought with courage, mountain-high,
When Nazi boots marched in July.
With barely food, with hardly guns,
I held my ground, I lost my sons.

Now I beg where I once stood tall,
Owed by friends who watched me fall.
From proud to broke in just one breath
Who am I, with glory and debt?

>>508339417
I think his arguments were very strong and grikgodpilled. In fact, they were so strong, they broke your mind.

>>508327816 (OP)
You mean as corrupt as the jews in the government? I’d agree with that

>>508327816 (OP)
Are u pro Talmud Euromemeflag? You can take our Jewish leaders with you too

>>508328273
you let bibi in and suck pissrael asshole your corpos and bureaucrats are corruption maxxing on pair with albania and kosovo at this point

>>508339742
I know it isn't much but it could be a nice starting point for some decent (as in moral decency) polical regeneration. And having to put some effort to be part of it (learning Greek) would it make more difficult for leeches to join it. Fake fluency is extremely easy to spot.

>>508340146
>Greece has a higher minimum wage than we do.
>You do not suffer on the Greece

Grok what is purchasing power (Greece ranks last, cartels everywhere)

>>508334894
Found the Jew. You paid to comment in protons.gr too let me guess

>>508340943
In protothema.gr*

>>508340845
Anon they are painfully unaware of the greek debt crisis as they are of the argentinian one, they don't know what happened once automatic investments were implemented

They don't know non humans can ruin the economy

>>508327816 (OP)
Yeah there are corrupt people but there are also the most honest and philotima ones you can find, show me an era where things were different in that regard, it was always the few who'd rise above the rest. And let me guess, you need more?

>>508337582
This would be valid criticism if Eastern Europeans didn't also do this to a much bigger degree with Russia and Western Europe/US didn't coddle them because of it.

>>508342719
You'd be ashamed to see how clean and developed Polish cities are today

>>508327816 (OP)
>Name a more corrupted shithole in Europe
Spain has several corruption cases with investigations ongoing related to the president's wife, his brother, a former 2nd in charge that also had several scandals with whores, the last week second in charge, the governor of Navarre, cuts from several public works construction companies and the rescue of an airline, all this shit ofc with the money from Europe too, we were helping Venezuela and Cuba because they are banned from the dollar market or whatever and the police is in the headquarters of the Government's party last week.
And Sanchez will try to antagonize Trump in the NATO's summit this week because we are not investing 5% of our gdp in the USA MIC.

>>508334894
Είχαμε συντεχνίες πολύ πρίν γίνουν μόδα, απλά δεν ήταν φραγκογερμανόσπορες και δεν προωθούσαν ξένες ιδεολογίες.

>Ο θεσμός των «Κοινών», που υφίστατο και σε άλλα ελληνικά μέρη, άκμασε στην Κύπρο κατά τα Ελληνιστικά χρόνια κι άρχισε όταν τα διάφορα μισθοφορικά στρατεύματα που στάθμευαν στο νησί ίδρυσαν το καθένα το δικό του «Κοινόν», δηλαδή τη δική του οργάνωση. Δημιουργήθηκαν έτσι διάφορες οργανώσεις όπως το «Κοινόν Κρητῶν», το «Κοινόν Κιλίκων», το «Κοινόν Λυκίων» κλπ. Τέτοια «Κοινά» μαρτυρούνται από επιγραφές που έχουν βρεθεί.

>Στη συνέχεια δημιουργήθηκαν και «Κοινά» από διάφορους επαγγελματίες, δηλαδή οργανώσεις που δρούσαν ως συντεχνίες. Σαν τέτοιες, αναφέρουμε το «Κοινόν τῶν περί τόν Διόνυσον τεχνιτῶν», δηλαδή το επαγγελματικό συνδικάτο των ηθοποιών και των λοιπών λειτουργών του θεάτρου, και το «Κοινόν τῶν κατά Κύπρον γραμματέων», δηλαδή το επαγγελματικό συνδικάτο των γραφειοκρατών, πιθανότατα των γραμματέων των βουλών και των δήμων των πόλεων της Κύπρου.

>>508343398
Poland doesn't have to deal with their existential threat being a (((fellow NATO ally))). You are forgetting than when literally all of the Europe and the West was killing their defense spending, ending drafts and basically not needing to have armies anymore we had to deal with shit like Imia and we kept our defense spending at the same levels as in the cold war. Nobody else had to do this.

>>508343945
True, it's a different story how effective that was

>>508336881
gayreeks is modern invention by angloids

>>508344801
That's not true

>>508328273
>>508327923
>>508327816 (OP)
frfr we worse than Romania for years now
maybe even Albania

>>508328273
We just gotta get out teeth kicked in ande we'll be back on schedule like the good old times.

>>508345168
>Pic related
Surely I don't need to explain that this was just political theater to appease the great powers, right?

>>508344801
Anglos shut down our schools and churches because they didn't want us to be Greek, you know it's an English finger when they start telling Greeks they are in fact potatoes and tomatoes in order to divide and conquer them.

>>508329410
μὴ φύγῃ μηδεὶς Ἕλλην
ἔχουμε μεγάλη δουλειὰ στὸ ἐγγὺς μέλλον

>>508345452
Throwing meds to the lions never gets old

>>508345452
>just political theater
between cousins and secret lovers?