>Country with tons of oil, gas, mountains for hydro and space for windmills/solar desperately wants nuclear power to the point it is building massive underground facilities for refining and risking war with US/Israel

I'm not Pro-Israel in anyway but are there anyone out there actually buying Iran's explanation? Especially since it can just buy low-enriched uranium from Russia for those nuclear power plants.

>>508347849 (OP)

imagine israelis complaining about nuclear weapon oversight

>>508347849 (OP)
First nation we should be disarming is Israel

they are literally in the process of murdering tens of thousands of gazans with an aeriel bombing campaign. Any other country of Israel's size doing this would've been invaded by the US already.

I don't give two shits about nuclear proliferation in Iran. Israel has hundreds of ICBM's and nuclear weapons. They're the actual nuclear proliferation risk and in violation of every international law regarding them.

typical hajis.
larp about muh rights.
while being turban wearing ragheads who preach islam take over the world.
the only language these monkeys understand is operation romantic hammer.

>>508348457
>I don't give two shits about nuclear proliferation in Iran.
I do.
the fuck would I be ok with another sandnigger country getting nukes.
if anything pakistan should be disarmed.
they hinted at giving nukes to turks and saudis.

this is all a distraction

something else is cooking

>>508347849 (OP)
I hope Iran does develop a nuke though since apparently our faggot jew-cocksucking politicians are paid whores who can't put a leash on israel, might as well be them.

>>508347849 (OP)
No one seems to be selling them wind plants or solar panels, as far as we can tell the EU is at war with them and windmills are out of reach

>>508348457
israelis are pretty shit at this whole murder thing if palestinians outbreed the murdering so easily

>>508349049
Palestine is one of the fastest non-African population growing nations in the world.

>>508347849 (OP)
You want to diversify your energy mix. And Iran's oil production is located in its most vulnerable areas, close to the Arab states. This weakness has been exploited before. So wanting nuclear energy for civilian purposes isn't hard to understand. But that doesn't mean that they don't also want nuclear weapons.

>>508348899
Atleast they should be open about it and announce it instead of lying so openly about it.

>>508349390
oh right, because they can totally trust israel and the united states.
yeah right

>>508349360
>Enriches uranium to 100%
>Civilian
Even the shitest reactors only need 20% and Iran already has tons of this at this level.

>>508349189
thats why the whole genocide bullshit doesnt make any sense. they are supposedly dying of starvation and poor children are getting murdered everyday! and yet they are very much fine. if these retards werent fucking backwards terrorist scum then palestinians would live better life than most countries in the region thanks to all the gibs they get lmao

>>508347849 (OP)
>refine uranium past any commercial power use
>get bombed
>cant do anything about it
rip

Wind/solar isnt as guaranteed as nuclear energy. Oil and gas will eventually run out. Nuclear energy not so much. Iran already exports most of its oil/gas due to global demand. With the population growing power scarcity and rolling blackouts is becoming more common. A shift to nuclear energy would allow them to use that energy for utilities and free up more gas/oil for export. Iran has little reason to trust western corporations and countries for uranium and other nuclear supplies. See current events. Its was inevitable some "western ally" would eventually throw a fit a levy bombs so if they had relied on western countries from the start they'd now be even more fucked supply line wise. Plus the possibility of sanction and embargo. Im not saying any of this is true but it makes sense. Also though I dont see why any country is allowed to have nukes if another can't. Thats so gay. Either everybody gets them or nobody does. Its not like its some crazy future tech its just a bunch of silly red tape wether they wepoanize it or not. So for that does it even matter what there nuclear program is for.

>>508349691
They probably want it for both civilian and military purposes.

>>508349925
-supply wise this also holds true for solar/wind. If they rely on western countries the rate of cuck goes up exponentially. I dont necessarily support Iran but it is exposing the blatant hypocrisy in global politics quite nicely on multiple fronts. Obviously we shouldn't want Iran to have nukes buy it really begs the questions who should have nukes and whats the right way to go about it? I get these are munitions that could change the world irreversibly but it all seems a bit gay.

>>508347849 (OP)
But what about the argument from the other direction. Full invasion of Iraq. WMD clearly a lie. Invasion of Afghanistan over9\11,when all terrorists , under official story , were Saudis and the plot could have been hatched by any Muslim group legally at any American university. Libya invaded under "just enforcing a peace keeping no fly zone to protect Libyan civilians from their government." Obama and allies literally are by the book war criminals for such a scam.So with that history, if you were any other country in the world why would you not be building up every possible war project you could?

>>508348819
Dollar insolvency - domestic US and western world collapse, etc

>>508349390
Can you stop, please

>>508347849 (OP)
We don't terrorize nuclear capable countries

>>508347849 (OP)
>but are there anyone out there actually buying Iran's explanation?
No, they want nuclear weapons, and it is their right to have them so they can defend themselves against Israel that have these weapons.

>>508347849 (OP)
Why shouldn't Iran have nukes if Israel have them?

>>508351848
two wrongs don't make a right

>>508350415
Don’t forget ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood Arab Spring.
Don’t forget that the Iranian revolution in 1979 was to depose a puppet dictator installed by the US, and the US responded by supporting Saddam Hussein in the 8 year Iran-Iraq War that Iraq started trying to grab the Shatt-Al-Arab.
Don’t forget the west sold chemical weapons to Iraq that he used against Iranian soldiers and civilians as well as his own people.

>>508352096
>puppet dictator installed
The Iran monarchy has been in existence for some time, 1906. The last dynasty took power in 1941. US had nothing to do with it. The US only backed the last monarch when the Prime Minister tried to depose him and become a dictator.

>>508349691
>>Enriches uranium to 100%
Can't be done.
>>508349808
>>refine uranium past any commercial power use
Lies.
Still 95% could be safely called commercial power use.

>>508348020
I understand this meme

>>508348899
I just don't get this. You can make a nuke at home, the concept is easy and these you can find everything on the internet. The only reason why we don't have schizos threatening to detonate entire cities is because they can't get enriched uranium.
Don't tell me a country like Iran can't get their hands on this after decades.

>>508353403
>IAEA definitions
>Commercial nuclear reactors typically use low-enriched uranium (LEU), which is enriched to about 3-5% uranium-235 (U-235).
>Highly enriched uranium (HEU) is typically defined as uranium that has been enriched to a concentration of 20% or more of uranium-235 (U-235). For military applications, weapons-grade uranium is usually enriched to 90% or more U-235.

>>508353751
>The highest commercial enrichment level currently used is typically around 5% uranium-235 (U-235) for most nuclear reactors. However, there are advancements in higher enriched fuels, such as those being tested at up to 6% U-235, which could enhance reactor performance and efficiency.
>High-Assay Low-Enriched Uranium (HALEU) is commercially enriched between 5% and 20% in uranium-235 (U-235). Currently, only a few countries, including Russia and China, have the infrastructure to produce HALEU at scale, while the U.S. is beginning to ramp up its production capabilities.
Enriching uranium past 20% quickly becomes very expensive and has an exponential growing cost the higher the percentage so no one does it for commercial applications

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