Should we impose democracy on authoritarian countries around the world to promote freedom? - /pol/ (#508393147) [Archived: 977 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: hRTgHmxiUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:08:13 AM No.508393147
West
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Anonymous ID: PPIrlAtfFinland
6/23/2025, 1:10:25 AM No.508393366
>>508393147 (OP)

You don't have democracy anymore...you have emperor Trump. You cannot be paragon except its failure.
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Anonymous ID: gcYFoCeSPortugal
6/23/2025, 1:11:26 AM No.508393467
>we
EUROPE IS DONE WITH AMERICA
THE EU IS SOVEREIGN NOW
FUCK OFF TO YOUR DESERT JEW WARS
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Anonymous ID: iFN3PQFJAustralia
6/23/2025, 1:12:12 AM No.508393539
>>508393147 (OP)
Your president is a convicted felon.
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Anonymous ID: 8EfliADNUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:12:17 AM No.508393544
>>508393147 (OP)
Yes, absolutely.
Anonymous ID: v2GY067nUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:12:52 AM No.508393608
>>508393147 (OP)
Replacing barbaric, backwards governments with democracies isn't imposingโ€”it's liberating.
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Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 1:13:14 AM No.508393648
>>508393467
Ha ha silly European, all the defense supply chains are connected. Your jets can be turned off remotely from Washington.
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Anonymous ID: O36D7eqwUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:13:40 AM No.508393686
>>508393147 (OP)
>spend 30 years doing just that after the fall of the Soviet Union
>end of history or some other dumb shit
>have nothing to show for it
>should we try again
No.
Anonymous ID: 8EfliADNUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:13:42 AM No.508393690
>>508393608
Exactly.
What's the best way to go about this in your opinion?
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Anonymous ID: X8Z/kkvwUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:13:48 AM No.508393699
>>508393147 (OP)
We should promote costco and whole foods as white nationalism
Anonymous ID: nWig3DJoCanada
6/23/2025, 1:14:30 AM No.508393783
>>508393147 (OP)
What is it called when your country is ruled by israel? Judeocracy?
Anonymous ID: 7GrXhEECUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:15:37 AM No.508393897
>>508393147 (OP)
you should impose a pistol in your mouth 1pbtid
Anonymous ID: K1pxlclVGermany
6/23/2025, 1:15:58 AM No.508393928
>>508393648
No they cant.
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Anonymous ID: hbDOya19
6/23/2025, 1:18:21 AM No.508394157
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>>508393366
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, rabbi Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for ramesh, and you curse the USA. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That rameshโ€™s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 1:19:25 AM No.508394407
>>508393928
Yes they can, they will simply stop technical support and logistics, Israel is the only exception. Look it up. You are not allowed maintenance.
Anonymous ID: RkAV/BE8Canada
6/23/2025, 1:20:38 AM No.508394549
pepeunimpressed
pepeunimpressed
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>>508393147 (OP)
Anonymous ID: v2GY067nUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:22:23 AM No.508394702
>>508393690
First economic liberation, then political liberation

Through the use of extended skirmishes open up developing nations to western economic development and US currency exchange which will discourage goods and services coming from the BRICs economic block while encouraging spending that promotes western, pro-NATO corporations.

Once the natives see the superiority of western economics they'll be invited to pick their own leader, who will of course be vetted to assure they aren't poisoned with Russian or terrorist disinfo. This new leader will also act as a liaison between the natives and western governments.
Anonymous ID: raaAdck3United Kingdom
6/23/2025, 1:23:07 AM No.508394771
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Team America: World Police
Jews Rape Kids ID: aB1Uy/jIUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:23:11 AM No.508394781
>>508393147 (OP)
Yes let's start with Canada and then the UK.
Anonymous ID: Pkh+t15aBrazil
6/23/2025, 1:23:35 AM No.508394821
>>508393608
who made you the police?
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Anonymous ID: l/PYDzNsCanada
6/23/2025, 1:24:01 AM No.508394872
Capitalism is diametrically opposed to democracy.
Communism is the ideology most in line with democracy.
So I would use 'spread democracy' more carefully.
Anonymous ID: Dd66cxT6Germany
6/23/2025, 1:26:09 AM No.508395088
>>508393147 (OP)
not by force, i think
but you really can't just sit back and let them do whatever, that just invites more problems down the road, from an utilitarian viewpoint at least
>>508393608
but it leads to failed nation-states almost every time when looking at modern history, seems like the true impetus needs to come from within
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Anonymous ID: v2GY067nUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:29:14 AM No.508395393
>>508394821
We have no choice but to be the police when the world is full of dangerous terrorists who hate our freedoms. Remember 9/11?
>>508395088
You're spreading dangerous uninfo and your shareholder value will be docked once we backtrace your IP.
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Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 1:33:03 AM No.508395759
eagle (sad)
eagle (sad)
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>>508395393
>Remember 9/11?
Never forget
Anonymous ID: Dd66cxT6Germany
6/23/2025, 1:34:23 AM No.508395904
>>508395393
>spreading dangerous uninfo
dude you don't get me at all, i'm all for +5% military budget and all that, i just don't get why people always need to get bombed before we get there
>and your shareholder value will be docked
not the shareholder value oh no haha
Anonymous ID: rYjN3A2/United States
6/23/2025, 1:36:19 AM No.508396090
>>508393608
So why did women lose the right to an education in EVERY country we liberated. Not sure if that happened in Syria yet, they havent said.
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Anonymous ID: v2GY067nUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:43:58 AM No.508396827
>>508396090
They need re-liberating I guess.
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 1:44:10 AM No.508396850
>>508393648
Why do you think the EU stopped ordering US gear and parts?
That shit is ending. Trump pissed away US control. And I like it.
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Anonymous ID: GCRS0KbLUkraine
6/23/2025, 1:49:01 AM No.508397361
>>508393147 (OP)
Nigger, start with your own country.
>>508393366
He didn't have democracy before Trump either. America is a jewish oligarchy and eu cucks are its client states.
Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 1:49:41 AM No.508397427
>>508396850
Itโ€™s only a short term front. The US wants Europe to start working on local manufacturing. They need to train the leaders here like little birds out of a nest to fight for themselves. Thats why they have the anti-EU rhetoric.
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Anonymous ID: Jw3Mm0zoUnited States
6/23/2025, 1:52:26 AM No.508397737
>>508393147 (OP)
>Implying we haven't been for 80 years now
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 1:52:31 AM No.508397748
>>508397427
No. The US does not want the EU to manufacture locally.
Why would you even think that?
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Anonymous ID: miyKocQQUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 1:53:22 AM No.508397842
>>508393147 (OP)
I think we need to impose democracy on ourselves first.
Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 1:54:53 AM No.508398002
>>508397748
Why wouldn't they want locally made US weapons? These are mixed contracts. Rheinmetall and Lockheed are working together.
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Anonymous ID: YrbnqhMRGreece
6/23/2025, 1:55:51 AM No.508398116
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>>508393147 (OP)
Fuck eu
Anonymous ID: WlLA5Y3zIndonesia
6/23/2025, 1:56:15 AM No.508398154
>>508393147 (OP)
C'mon you guys are literal bullies. Bombing a small weak nation and celebrate it like you own the world.
Try to prove that USA is the strongest by bringing democracy to China first. Try to bomb Shenzhen.
Anonymous ID: Xp9h4L34Chile
6/23/2025, 1:57:28 AM No.508398287
>>508393539
Am pretty sure it was Illegal to kill the british when Washington did it

I rather have criminal burger democracy than the blatant violent anarchy who expects those who ask for fascism
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 1:57:57 AM No.508398346
>>508398002
Anon, the whole point of what is going on is that the EU is stopping licensed production alltogether and is going pure local. The MIC is fucked. Source? Look at the current procurement strategy and at canceled orders for US gear.
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Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 2:01:29 AM No.508398775
>>508398346
Funny how the suppliers are all shared for these companies.
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Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 2:05:30 AM No.508399206
>>508398775
which companies? I did not list any.
That being said, yes many supply chains are interconnected with US parts. But that is because of political reasons and not for lack of procurement options within the EU. This is going to change within the next decade.
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Anonymous ID: u2r4veAiUnited States
6/23/2025, 2:08:42 AM No.508399559
>>508393147 (OP)
That doesn't promote Democracy and "Freedom", it promotes Foreign Rule! You'll be a godsdamned Democracy because "WE" fucking say you will be one! "WE" demand it, and "WE" are going to force it on you whether you like it or not!! You are too backwards and unenlightened to demand it for yourselves, so "WE" will Save You from yourselves! That's BS, and you know it!
Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 2:09:06 AM No.508399600
>>508399206
All I am saying is that the Americans are not opposed to this.
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Anonymous ID: dqCHCad0Brazil
6/23/2025, 2:14:43 AM No.508400186
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>>508393147 (OP)
>>508393608
post pathetic glownigger memes
I want to have a laugh
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 2:18:02 AM No.508400553
>>508399600
Americans want to sell their stuff. Europeans will stop buying it and instead sell their own stuff on the global market for cheaper because of increased production.
US prices will go up because there will be less demand.
Explain to me why the US would want less sales and therefore less control. Because it seems to be the exact opposite to me
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Anonymous ID: rYjN3A2/United States
6/23/2025, 2:24:04 AM No.508401169
>>508398346
I dont know
They MIC is designed to create more and more war for profit margins.
Nuclear war is pretty much inevitable.


Its built into the system
Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 2:25:09 AM No.508401284
>>508400553
Primarily, the Americans feel that they can't defend both Europe and Asia simultaneously. The MIC wants products to be better regionally suited. Rapid drone development as a whole being the European side. Some things will be strictly US and some EU based. It is less about control and more about predicting future demand. This means there will be a generally more encompassing product catalog, yet they will all have interoperability.
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Anonymous ID: 34bOwQDYUnited States
6/23/2025, 2:26:13 AM No.508401400
defending democracy
defending democracy
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>>508393147 (OP)
democracy<>freedom
Anonymous ID: eb2quX3SUnited States
6/23/2025, 2:28:54 AM No.508401653
>>508393147 (OP)
We have to focus on making other countries great again before we can focus on MAGA
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 2:30:11 AM No.508401785
>>508401284
The MIC wants to sell stuff.
They will sell less. It is that simple.

The EU has cheaper and at the same time superior war gear for every US product except the F-95. That jet only has comparable EU alternatives but no straight up superior version
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Anonymous ID: AwEzfePNLatvia
6/23/2025, 2:33:07 AM No.508402089
>>508401785
Right now they can't sell what we don't need. If they develop better suited products they will.
I could be wrong, but in my opinion this is a transitory wave.
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Anonymous ID: jMnMVefvNetherlands
6/23/2025, 2:34:07 AM No.508402186
>>508393147 (OP)
Royava is more democratic than US.
Anonymous ID: DQPkeuB+Germany
6/23/2025, 2:38:31 AM No.508402661
>>508402089
Anon, right now their sales are highly boosted because of political reasons. This ended a few weeks ago. They already lost billions of expected contracts because the US is no longer considered trust worthy