Gun control is impossible. - /pol/ (#508405318) [Archived: 985 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:07:23 AM No.508405318
FGC-9 Myanmar
FGC-9 Myanmar
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Firearms are such a simple technology that the barrier of entry to manufacture them basically doesn't exist in the vast majority of the planet. Even impoverished peasants in Myanmar are fighting a tyrannical military junta using FGC-9's and other improvised weapons.

In first world countries where we all grew up taking shop classes, almost the entire adult population is capable of doing it (Barring serious cognitive or physical impairment).
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Anonymous ID: R+kUBl8VUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:09:33 AM No.508405487
>>508405318 (OP)
governmental regulation of a lot of behavior - including the production and procurement of weaponry - is generally folly
Anonymous ID: GlGJWZhhUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:11:30 AM No.508405639
>>508405318 (OP)
It's quite possible, and is done effectively in many areas. All of England has around 20 fatal shootings per year, because gangs there are afraid to carry guns due to mandatory prison sentences for gun possession. Singapore goes years at a time with zero shootings at all. Japan has averaged 4 fatal shootings per year over the last decade.

It doesn't matter how you procure guns if you are too afraid to use them. And government force can indeed produce that kind of fear, even within criminals. Whether or not you 'can' print a gun is irrelevant under those circumstances, because you won't, because you know that getting caught means your life is ruined for the next 5+ years at least.
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Anonymous ID: Fboa8EfmUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:11:33 AM No.508405642
>>508405318 (OP)
The gun isn't difficult. The ammo is a bit
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Anonymous ID: bjkCXC44United States
6/23/2025, 3:14:30 AM No.508405905
>>508405318 (OP)
Doesn't matter. Mutts are too cowardly and cucked to ever use their guns for anything but Insta selfies.
Anonymous ID: 67ZvRRPrUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:15:52 AM No.508406037
>>508405642
>he doesnt have a dillon and a single stage
unironically ngmi
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:16:08 AM No.508406061
gun control yo
gun control yo
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>>508405318 (OP)
Anonymous ID: Fboa8EfmUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:21:34 AM No.508406622
>>508406037
All fun and games until you run out of primers though
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:23:04 AM No.508406761
>>508406622
Can be reloaded with strike-anywhere match heads. For real.
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Anonymous ID: jTkHC6l8United States
6/23/2025, 3:23:46 AM No.508406822
>>508405318 (OP)
In the past it was easier to regulate due to the difficulty in acquiring materials and tools to make it. Thanks to technological breakthroughs the bar keeps getting lower and lower. Even many materials now can be printed and have more alternatives. While the bar for manufacturing keeps dropping with new designs constantly being produced. The 3d printer gun 'market' is unironically flourishing and completely blowing out traditional arms design and development. Unlike the 'traditional' market, they are not stagnating at all.
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:24:33 AM No.508406888
>>508406822
3D printed Glock mags work better than ProMags.
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Anonymous ID: ukp6L4lFUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:24:53 AM No.508406917
>>508405639
>japan
wasn’t a japanese politician famously shot and killed by a homemade gun recently
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:25:28 AM No.508406976
>>508406917
Electrically fired black powder muzzle loader, yeah.
Anonymous ID: jTkHC6l8United States
6/23/2025, 3:26:19 AM No.508407046
>>508406761
Don't forget electric primer and plastic casings being improved upon. A lot of 3d printer firearm munitions are moving away from chemical primers.

>>508406888
Exactly. I thought about buying a glock but then I realized I could just buy 3d printer and make one for a fraction of the price. LMAO.
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Anonymous ID: Fboa8EfmUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:26:46 AM No.508407086
>>508406761
I think I'd rather engage in a little home chemistry
https://www.aardvarkreloading.com/resources/Homemade%20Primer%20Course%202019-06-28.pdf
Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:29:24 AM No.508407331
>>508407046
Daisy, way back in the day, made a caseless round that used a pneumatic air gun to detonated a powder charge without a primer.
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Anonymous ID: ouOqPdBRUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:33:19 AM No.508407673
>>508406822
How do you do the barrels though, that seems like the biggest stumbling block for anything above bootstrap quality
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Anonymous ID: jTkHC6l8United States
6/23/2025, 3:33:27 AM No.508407688
>>508407331
You can also use nailgun ammo. I think its more about moving away from potential vulnerabilities that chemical primers have over an electric alternative. Not entirely sure what's the deal with the new careless and plastic shells, tho.
Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:37:36 AM No.508408091
>>508407673
You buy a pipe (or a rod and bore it out) and then either:

3D print a mandrel around which you wrap wires, shove it into the bore of the barrel, pump salt water through it and hook the wire up to a car battery in order to electrochemically remove material from the grooves.

OR

You take a hard rod, cut helical grooves on the outside of it and then ram that down the bore with a press.
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:39:20 AM No.508408255
>>508406761
>strike-anywhere match heads
They stopped making those 2 decades ago.

The modern ones aren't the same.

You can make your own primer compound, but it's highly dangerous to do. Very shock sensitive.
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:40:01 AM No.508408312
>>508408255
I can buy them at the fucking dollar store.
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:41:17 AM No.508408424
>>508407673
>How do you do the barrels though, that seems like the biggest stumbling block for anything above bootstrap quality
lathe
pull a cutter through bore for rifling called "cut rifling", how was done for hundreds of years.

CHF machines exist but are quite expensive.
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:42:51 AM No.508408555
>>508408312
>I can buy them at the fucking dollar store.
Again.
Not
The
Same.

Just like "M80s" and "Cherry Bombs" these days are 1/100 what they were decades ago.

Same name, not same chemical compounds though. The real strike anywhere's were banned.

You cannot make reliable primer mix from modern ones, and even the older ones were no good for primer compound mix. Best to stick to the real deal stuff, just don't blow your fingers off making it.
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:43:16 AM No.508408604
>>508408424
Forging is superior because it aligns the grains of the desired geometry.

Hypothetically you could also investment cast a barrel, but casting steel is more expensive than a lot of other alloys.
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Anonymous ID: ouOqPdBRUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:45:19 AM No.508408772
>>508408091
>>508408424
>>508408604
interdasting thanks anons
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Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:46:40 AM No.508408878
>>508408772
If you want to do more reading on the one where you just shove a hardened tool through it, that's called "button rifling".
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:47:16 AM No.508408935
>>508408604
>Forging is superior
Depends on the metal used and the application.

Forging with correct metals produces tougher barrels, which is why soviet bloc countries use that method for longevity, and then chrome lined for further durability.

Other methods produce more accurate barrels but will degrade in accuracy sooner than forged and more prone to cutting and eroding ahead of the chamber.
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Anonymous ID: BrnbE8sy
6/23/2025, 3:47:35 AM No.508408957
>>508405318 (OP)
My grandfather used to be a metalworker and when I was young he made a gun just in his garage

Today it’s probably even easier since you can just order “machine parts” from China and give them exact specifications, just don’t use words like “rifling”
Anonymous ID: NrHksxIyCanada
6/23/2025, 3:48:21 AM No.508409012
>>508408935
The accuracy issues are mostly caused by bad heat treating after the forging process.
Chrome lining also degrades accuracy because it adds material, so your bore shrinks a tiny bit.
Anonymous ID: BrnbE8sy
6/23/2025, 3:50:35 AM No.508409205
>>508408555
At least in Canada it’s easy to buy black powder, since antique style guns are a popular Boomer hobby and it’s incredibly impractical to go on a killing spree with a flintlock musket.
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Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:52:33 AM No.508409360
>>508408878
>"button rifling".
Also
broach rifling
single point cut rifling
straight rifling (also usually cut)
as well as the others already mentioned.
Anonymous ID: +HbLkZXpUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:53:35 AM No.508409443
>>508409205
Yeah it's common everywhere, though most use substitutes now. The pellets are just tarded shit for lazy cons.