Most cow breeds nowadays produce the milk whose primary protein (~80%) is Casein A1.
The A1 beta-casein protein, which is linked to the release of the peptide beta-casomorphin-7 (BCM7) during digestion.

So yeah, basically cows have been genetically modified to produce addicting milk that contains actual opioids.

What are the political implications of this?

Oooooo I'm booooooomping

This is why cheese is so addictive. It's much more concentrated than milk so the amount of casomorphins you subject yourself to is much higher.

>>508441938
Quite possibly. There are also claims that over consumption of cheese can cause autism or activate latent schizophrenia.
Which would make sense considering that psychoactive drugs are known to exacerbate schizo symptoms.

>>508442166
I will continue eating cheese and noticing patterns.
>psychoactive drugs
>opioids
Sure bud.

>>508442365
Opioids are psychoactive, what the fuck do you mean? I think you confused the word psychoactive with psychedelic.

science isn't real.
chemistry isn't real.
dna isn't real.
the speed of light isn't real.
march is the first month if the year.
humans are retarded subhumans that only know how to make shit up (and they're terrible at it).
you are a joke. your parents were jokes. your lineage are jokes.

pray to jesus.

>>508442685
Still eating cheese.

>>508442902
I think you had too much milk today.

>>508442951
lies are not funny.
be funny.

>>508441938
Is this why my face sweats when I eat extra mature cheddar cheese? fuck my mouth is salivating at the thought, im gonna do it

>>508443188
Makes sense. Aged cheese contains more protein than fresh cheese therefore more casein A1. Its like the fentanyl of cheeses

>>508441568 (OP)
Gr8 thread. The A1 variant of β-casein (which is around 30-40% of the 80% total A1 casein protein content in cows milk) is indeed readily broken down to release BCM-7. However the amount of BCM-7 released is so tiny - I would imagine only babies would feel it, soothing them, which makes sense from evolutionary standpoint. Adults with healthy gut barriers should not feel any psychoactive effects from milk. Perhaps you shitting yourself after a glass of warm milk is somewhat related?

Doubt it's enough for any noticeable effect how about you post some numbers.

>>508443891
It depends alot on the route of administration.
Casomorphine is apparently 10 times stronger than morphine when isolated from the milk and injected.
However, when orally administered its a bit weaker than morphine, i believe thats because of the obvious tolerance that most humans have developed to it over a lifetime of milk consumption.

>>508443882
Yeah its because of tolerance and the gut microbiome being able to break it down because of overexposure to the molecule over the years.
However, if you have ever tried opioids you will know that the effect is very subtle at low doses, just gives you a slight feel good mood that can be confused with satiety after eating a good meal so most people dont really notice the effects and think that they feel good because they just had a good meal.

>>508443566
What about the parmigiano reggiano? Is she safe? Is she alright?

>>508442902
Jesus is just a cult.
Everyone is there own god even you

>>508444834
Apparently yes. Italian brown cows produce mostly casein A2 protein which is safer. Same goes with goat and sheep milk so pecorino romano is also great.

>>508441568 (OP)
This is why one scoop instead of two is important.

>>508445040
Anon I love cheese and dairy and it's most of my diet. To add credence to this I can, from my cheese eating experience, confidently state that parmigiano reggiano doesn't make my face sweat. Extra mature cheddar does though, less mature cheeses don't at all. Ty for the info anon never knew about any of this.

>>508442902
>march is the first month if the year.
>The orthodox Jewish calendar starts the new year with the month of Nisan, which falls in March or April in the Gregorian calendar.
kike lol

>>508441568 (OP)
>oy vey goy stop eating dairy products oy gevalt
lol no kike

>>508442166
>romanian
>scientists

>>508444397
And how much do you ingest per liter of milk or kilo of cheese? It's going to be almost nothing.

>>508447359
Around 50 mg per liter of milk.

According to psychonaut.org which is the number one site drug users go to check drug dosages, morphine starts working from as low as 10 mg when taken orally with a heavy dose being 30mg.

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Morphine
However, tolerance plays a huge factor, especially with opioids, a morphine addict can easily consume 10x that amount because of tolerance.
And as i said earlier, we have a huge tolerance to milk for obvious reasons so its very hard to punpoint where casomorphine will have a noticeable effect.

>>508448174
Makes no sense. That would mean you could get high drinking milk.

Another option: It doesn't cross the blood brain barrier and only affects the body.

>>508450098
If you have ever taken opiates you will know that the effects are not very obvious.
A mild opiate high makes you feel like you would after a good meal or after sex.
It wont feel euphoric or anything in low doses and with a tolerance.
People feel good after eating well anyway, the opiate just adds to that effect and simply makes the meal feel extra nice.
Make yourself something like spätzle with extra cheese and another meal with no dairy with the same amount of calories and you kight notice that you feel better after meals that contain alot of cheese.

>>508450357
Might be true, apparently the bioavailability greatly increases if injected directly into the brain making it 10 times as potent as morphine

>>508441568 (OP)
Most foods and spices are psychoactive. They have subtle and wideranging effects on psychological wellbeing and also a complicated interplay with gut bacteria.

the milk opioid would likely be a very subtle effect. Maybe thats why warm milk helps sleep?

I drank only milk for like a week, I felt amazing, but I was getting chunky and bowel movements were unpleasant.

>>508441568 (OP)
The Romanian flag is the new Catalonian flag.

>>508441568 (OP)
It can help with Opioid withdrawal. When I quit Kratom, Magerquark and Nigella Sativa oil where the things that helped most (and a little bit of weed in the evenings).

>>508442166
>>508441938
my second cousin (a legit schizo) died from choking on cheese

>>508450954
True. For example, there are also benzodiazepines in bread and nutmeg will make you trip balls if you eat too much.

>I drank only milk for like a week, I felt amazing, but I was getting chunky and bowel movements were unpleasant.
Casein A1 (the one im talking about) is notorious for causing gut issues in alot of people.
Try using goat or sheep milk, it shouldnt cause much less trouble.

>>508450460
>>508450696
5mg of morphine is a nice buzz and very noticeable. If 1l of milk was equivalent to 5mg morphine lots of people would drown themselves in milk. My guess is the molecule is just too large to get into the brain. Obviously this still might affect the body and could ead to constipation or other side effects. Just my guess what's going on assuming the numbers are correct.

>>508452042
>My guess is the molecule is just too large to get into the brain.
Probably true.
I do wonder however how other ROAs would work, someone should isolate the molecule and experiment, maybe start selling it as an RC that cannot be made illegal because its fucking milk...

>>508448174
>Around 50 mg per liter of milk.
Utter bullshit, this is not in milk. If it was thousands of people would be dying of opioid overdose on a daily basis. Based on previous statements in this thread.

As both a medical professional and a enjoyer of cow milk, how could I not have noticed this? I have consumed real opioids, now the effects, have a very low tolerance for opiods as well. On a side note, I don't consume any drugs other than milk, apparently.

>>508441568 (OP)

>>508452603
Probably has very low bioavailability

>>508452042
>My guess is the molecule is just too large to get into the brain.
The anti-diarrhea medicine Imodium AD is this. It’s a giant opiate that can’t fit through the blood brain barrier, so just causes opiate constipation to stop diarrhea.

>>508441938
>>508442166
>>508441568 (OP)
Why is this so obvious and why is no one addicted to eating bananas or lettuce (rhetorical question)

>>508450696
How the fuck did they inject it straight into the brain and why the fuck would they be testing that specifically. Do you mean i.v.? Do you not know what the blood brain barrier is?
>>508452042
It's apparently 50mg of morphine per litre.

>>508452805
Not true, druggies hoard them and consume large doses at a time to get high in prisons.

>>508452773
>>508441568 (OP)

I ate like 250 grams of cheese in the past 3 days. It was french cheese fleur dez alpes and camembert. Stop attacking my cheese.

>>508441938
wtf? Now I love cheese even more!

>>508452944
Interesting, I looked it up and you’re right. Looks like it’s not physically too large to cross the BBB, it’s just pushed back out in normal doses, but can cross in large doses like you say. Learned something new today.
>t. former drug nerd coasting on decades-old half-remembered facts

>>508452854
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0024320587905431

>>508452854
50mg of casomorphine/l and it probably doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. During digestion it might not even get absorbed at all before being broken down more but that's just speculation.

>>508451327
haha, made me think of this.

For now I lay off the milk, sometimes I make yogurt, but otherwise it just is too easy to consume far too many calories

>>508453187
"straight into the brain" = intrathecally in the spine I assume. Who the fuck writes straight into the brain?

>>508453442
As a person who is extremely sensitive to any types of drugs (and hate their effects because of a massive need for control) and very knowledgeable about drug effects I assure you, the amount of milk needed to be consumed to see any effect from this must be in inhuman amounts of milk in one sitting.