Thread 508465391

Apart from my own, Hungary is my favourite country. They have been wronged just as much as us by their greedy neighbors.

>>508465391 (OP)
Be bulgaria:
>loses byzantium wars
>loses ottoman wars
>loses balkan wars
>loses ww1
>loses ww2
>loses current ww3
>enslaved by globohomo
maybe , just maybe it has something to do with one being a bulgarian

>>508465863
Ironic coming from a country world renowned to creating new countries out of its own provinces, solely to be able to lose another war.

>>508465391 (OP)
Romania is rightful Bulgarian clay.

>>508466131
uhm .. sure but at the end of the day you are still bulgarian and cant escape that fate.
may God reward you in next life after this punishment

>>508466340
Sure, but at the end of the day, one day you'll die and your name on your gravestone will be written in Bulgarian letters.

>>508465391 (OP)
Bulgaria mogs the shit out of Hungary

>>508466520
Actually we wuz the OG creators of glagolitic, yours is just a cheap copy

>>508466131
kek

>>508467351
the only thing you wuz a creator of is "czech streets" porn videos

>>508465391 (OP)
Good man.

>>508466340
>tf
>tp

>>508466289
Other way around, Bulgaria is rightful Romanian land.

So easily summarised, the Vlachs were the East-Romance speaking people who formed the Empire after their uprising in 1185-1186 which led to its creation. And this brings us to my earlier statement on why it isn't a “Bulgarian” Empire. Because its creation was done so by the Vlachs, by a Vlach dynasty which claimed an imperial succession of the Old Bulgarian Empire, called a Translatio Imperii. So in the writings of Geoffroi de Villehardouin, Henri de Valenciennes, Robert de Clari, Philippe Mouskes, Rashīd al-Dīn, Wiliam de Rubruquis, Bar Hebraeus, Laurentius de Monacis, Innocentius III and even in Niketas Choniates; the reference of the Empire that was ruled by the Asanids was Vlachia and when they do mention “Bulgaria”, they do so along side Vlachia.

>>508467018
Truth nuke.

>>508466131
Ouch, quite the put-down.
God decided he needsd more grimdark-yet-silly humor so he created the Balkans.

>>508468610
First of all, a Vlach king would never claim direct descent from First Bulgarian Empire blood lineage. If it was a Vlach country and a Vlach rebellion, then the country belonged to Vlachs and nobody would have a reason to say anything about Bulgarians.
Instead it was Vlachs being the regular sidekicks of Bulgarians in the rebellion and retarded faggots like you try to twist history like you weren't the most irrelevant people in existence.

Second of all Aromanians have nothing to do with Romanians.

>>508468610
Bruh

>>508469141
>First of all, a Vlach king would never claim direct descent from First Bulgarian Empire blood lineage.
He would and he did, it's an established and accepted fact.
> If it was a Vlach country and a Vlach rebellion, then the country belonged to Vlachs and nobody would have a reason to say anything about Bulgarians.
Both the 1185 and the 1066 rebellions not only were created by Vlachs but also led by Vlachs. Coniates confirms the 1066 one and Kekaumenoa the 1185 one.
>Instead it was Vlachs being the regular sidekicks of Bulgarians in the rebellion and retarded faggots like you try to twist history like you weren't the most irrelevant people in existence.
It was the Bulgarians and the Cumans who were the sidekicks. Romanians are so irrelevant that we mog you in every way and we created ""your"" second empire. Keep coping.
>Second of all Aromanians have nothing to do with Romanians.
Yeah, nothing to do except us being the same people it's literally even in the name.

>>508469151
Literally even in Hungarians sources it is called the Vlacho-Bulgarain empire:

The "Vlach-Bulgarian Empire," also known as the Second Bulgarian Empire, had its origins in a revolt led by the Vlach brothers, Peter and Asen, against Byzantine rule in the late 12th century. Hungarian sources, including chronicles and charters, provide details about the empire's formation and its interactions with Hungary, particularly during the reigns of Béla III and subsequent Hungarian kings. These sources highlight the Vlach presence in the region and their role in the empire's establishment and governance.

>>508470227
>Vlach brothers Peter & Asen
>Vlach-Bulgarian empire
>Not a single meaningful city of fortress outside of Bulgaria
>Name Asen unknown in Romania but present in Bulgaria
Not sure why I even wrote this reply in the first place.

>>508470071
>He would and he did, it's an established and accepted fact.
It's literally not though.
>Both the 1185 and the 1066 rebellions not only were created by Vlachs but also led by Vlachs. Coniates confirms the 1066 one and Kekaumenoa the 1185 one.
You're talking out of your little faggot ass. Either post sources or suck my cock.
>It was the Bulgarians and the Cumans who were the sidekicks. Romanians are so irrelevant that we mog you in every way and we created ""your"" second empire. Keep coping.
Again, you literally did not, and you yourself know you did not. Don't know why you're wasting your type typing all this shit out lmao.
>Yeah, nothing to do except us being the same people it's literally even in the name.
Go ask an Aromanian if he's Romanian lmao. He'll tell you to fuck off.

>>508468610
Wrong anon, everything in Europe is rightful Romanian clay. I'm tired of this outsiders illegally squatting on my birth right : Europe

>>508465391 (OP)
Yes Hungary is a truncated version of itself as is Austria, Croatia, Albania Bosnia . If you look at which country has their lands it's mostly Serbia. They love stealing the land of the native inhabitants. They are still trying land grabs.

>>508470987
>>508471061
Silence brain washed Romanians ! Soon you will be reincorporated into the motherland when we start la Reconquista Byzantium 2.0

>>508469141
>Second of all Aromanians have nothing to do with Romanians.
>romanian ethnic group, that speaks old romanian, is orthodox, has the same culture as romanians, has been part of Romania's history has nothing to do with romanian
sad cope coming from a bulgarian

btw, from a genetical and demographical scientific point of view...
romanians and bulgarians are the same people...
...we have almost zero DNA distance between ourselves
we LARP as romans and you as bulgars, but we have no latin DNA and you have 0% turkic, asian or even slavic blood

romanians-bulgarians-macedonians-aromanians are 99% the same people
there is less diversity between romanian and bulgarian genepools than between north french and eastern french

>>508465863
You subhuman started great war

>>508468610
the Asen dynasty died out in 50 years after slaughtering each other like gypsies

>>508471396
>romanians-bulgarians-macedonians-aromanians are 99% the same people
@grok which was the empire that ruled all of these

>>508471396
>same people
Yes since you are Bulgarians. Just drop the italian and come home.

>>508471061
>It's literally not though.
It is, even in Hungarian sources who interacted with them it is known as Vlach-Bulgarain empire and the Vlach governance was recognized>>508470227
>You're talking out of your little faggot ass. Either post sources or suck my cocks
Sources are "O City of Byzantium" by Niketas Choniates and "Strategikon" by Kekaumenos.
>Again, you literally did not, and you yourself know you did not. Don't know why you're wasting your type typing all this shit out lmao.
I'm deconstructing your programming by burring you in proof.
>Go ask an Aromanian if he's Romanian lmao. He'll tell you to fuck off.
Our languages are very close and our endonyms are very similar.

>>508472252
Why is the empire known as Vlach-Bulgarian empire in Hungarian sources. Ask Grok that.

>>508471242
>>508471371
Anti-intelelctual fagyar subanimal that has nothing to contribute. Get back to work magyar slave.
Transylvania was Vlach-Bulgarian long before you losers crawled out of Siberia.

>>508470987
Because 1300 romanians were migrants from transylvania which had nothing to do with bulgaria and 2000s romanians are

GERMAN

>>508472572
I love the Romanian Macedonianism. It's so goofy and absurd that I can't even get mad.

>>508465391 (OP)
I was born in Hungary but I'm a Korean nationalist and rather feel like belonging to the Korean nation
phull sapport for Hanguk sars

>>508472705
You've got no proof. Exactly as I thought.
Did you ask Grok? Why are you so butthurt when confronted with the truth?

>>508472705
My name is literally bavarian -1 letter. Which is awful because Im technically from Baden wurtemberg,north baden wurtemberg

>>508472218
Right after they founded the Vlach-Bulgarian empire which was majority ethnically Vlach. It is Macedonia and Romania that ought to annex you, not the other way around.

>>508472411
>It is, even in Hungarian sources who interacted with them it is known as Vlach-Bulgarain empire and the Vlach governance was recognized
But just because you were ruled by Bulgarians doesn't make it a Vlach-Bulgarian Empire?
>Sources are "O City of Byzantium" by Niketas Choniates and "Strategikon" by Kekaumenos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprising_of_Asen_and_Peter
North Danubian Vlachs only mentioned once
Haemus mons vlachs - Bulgarians
And even so, Bulgarians are the main people in this story, because the state was called Bulgaria, not Vlachia. (later called Bulgaro-Vlach empire because it ruled over Vlachs too, not because it was ruled by Vlachs)
>I'm deconstructing your programming by burring you in proof.
You've literally got no proof though. There's better sources suggesting Asen dynasty was Cuman in origin. Even so, they signed every document as Kings of Bulgaria
>all native sources (from the 13th century[9]) use predominantly the terms Bulgaria, Bulgarians and Bulgarian, the Slavic names like Ivanko (relative and murderer of Ivan Asen I),[20] Boril and Slav, that tsar Kaloyan claimed provenance from the old Bulgarian rulers and his state from the First Bulgarian Empire[21] and declares himself a Bulgarian avenger, adopting the moniker the Romanslayer by analogy with the emperor Basil II the Bulgar Slayer and shows cruelty to the Byzantines as revenge for the murdered and blinded Bulgarians.[22]

>>508472871
HANS BULGARESCU FRATE MEI

>>508472981
>Right after they founded the Vlach-Bulgarian empire which was majority ethnically Vlach.
Insane schitzo-babble. Read some history, autist.

>>508472981
>which was majority ethnically Vlach
well that's retarded and obviously not true

>>508473426
Family names related to my own

>>508468392
Came to post this.

>>508465391 (OP)
Cheers!

>>508465391 (OP)
Even though you are immoral porn addicted zionists, I'd still defend you, Czech bros

>>508473697
Is that bar indicating the similarity to your name? Cause all seem way off.

>>508473497
>>508473639
Why is Romania's population three times the size of Bulgaria?

>>508474469
why is Romania's territory two times the size of Bulgaria?

>>508474469
Why is my dick three times the size of yours?

>>508474823
>>508474370

Though I used to like a girl with the family name Ionescu,well,"liked",I thought she was cool until she became (this was a few yrs ago <4) a stripper?a prostitute? She surely dresses and behaves like one and got tattoos even on her chest like in porn. Yeah...

>>508474901
Because our dicks is bigger nigger !

>>508473246
>But just because you were ruled by Bulgarians doesn't make it a Vlach-Bulgarian Empire?
Which time period are you referring to. Post proofs, sources. Elaborate. But in general I do agree our people were part of the same Empire.
>And even so, Bulgarians are the main people in this story, because the state was called Bulgaria, not Vlachia
Wrong under the Aspens it was called Vlachia most of the time and occasionally Bulgaria was added. I've already proved it>>508468610
>You've literally got no proof though. There's better sources suggesting Asen dynasty was Cuman in origin. Even so, they signed every document as Kings of Bulgaria
Post the documents.

>>508475107
>>508475168
I told you that you are Bulgarians.

>>508467018
this

>>508468610
this is why no one takes romanians seriously kek

everything and everyone was somehow romanian all the time yet somehow you guys were less than sheepherding serf peasants for 99% of your history lmao

>>508474901
Because people who shared the same language, ethnicity, religion, values and goals decided to unite and form a nation-state that dwarfed yours.

>>508475107
Where are the proofs?

>>508475782
We still are sheepherders in 2025 and if possible wed be even closer to the city center. We LOVE sheep and have songs about it. Have you heard of POMOHACI? :))) hes from banat so you must have

>>508465391 (OP)
Europeans need to stand together.

>>508465391 (OP)
Who do Hungarians hate more? Romanians or Slovaks?

>>508476689
we dont give a fuck about any of you aynmore
both romanians, slovaks live far better than we do
we hate ourselves lel

>>508475782
Even your own chronicles refute your nonsense. You got humiliated in 1330 at Posada when your entire army got destroyed and Romanain knights and boyars appear in the Viennese Illuminated Chronicle depicted in scenes from the battle but most importantly before the battle. For example a Romanian boyar sent as an envoy to Carol Robert of Anjou is shown. The Romanian army is also described as being equiped with quality arms and armor and using appropriate military tactics. Not to mention Hunyadi who enobled Romanians in Transylvania and he himself of Romanian origins on one side of the family. Delusional fagyar subhuman slave

>>508465391 (OP)
True.

>>508475782
Tough words for a slave speaking the language of serfs. Only serfs and peasants spoke Hungarian in the Hungarian Kingdom. The official language was Latin, and the language of commerce was German.

>>508465391 (OP)
Any hungarians ive met have been pretty nice. Bar one that shows up in every irish thread being a retard

>>508465391 (OP)
Hungary, Bulgaria, and (i can't believe i'm saying this) Serbia are the most based European countries. No competition.