It’s honestly impressive how little people talk about Bulgaria, yet how much the country has accomplished and endured. This is a nation founded in 681 AD, making it one of the oldest continuous states in Europe. While most modern Western countries were still in tribal chaos, Bulgaria was already codifying laws, building fortresses, and fighting empires.
Bulgarians resisted centuries of Ottoman occupation without ever losing their language, religion, or identity. When they did break free, they did it with blood, fire, and a sense of national dignity that puts many modern nations to shame. Even under the communist yoke, Bulgaria managed to preserve its cultural core and refused to be completely absorbed into Soviet dogma. They didn’t collapse. They adapted.
Let’s not forget that Bulgarians were key to the development of the Cyrillic script, which now serves as the alphabet for hundreds of millions of Slavs. Their Orthodox faith is old and rooted. Their architecture, music, and traditions are distinct, proud, and uncorrupted by Western consumerism and mass globalist culture.
While the West drowns in identity politics, economic decay, and moral relativism, Bulgaria remains a country of strong families, practical nationalism, and stoic realism. They are not loud. They do not pretend to rule the world. But they endure. They remember. And when history swings back toward the traditional and the rooted, as it always does, Bulgaria will still be standing.
Respect the Bulgars.
Death to the west
>>508473725 (OP)shut the fuck up dumb tatar
>>508473725 (OP)>Bulgaria remains a country of strong families, practical nationalism, and stoic realism.Not really, 21st century Bulgaria has no civic society to speak of and most peoples' worldviews are simultaneously cynical, naive, and apathetic. Their identity is also severely muddled by schizos who larp as ancient thracians.
>>508474768honestly a cute idea, one thing I wish we had from west/east slavs is more dumplings, they're very rare in balkan cuisine, pelmeni/varenki/pierogi are fuckin' goat
>>508474768this was made by a romanian dude who can't cope with the fact that he's a half-slavic rapebaby
>>508473725 (OP)Good guys. It's a shame they're Orthodox. Their last despots tried to end the schism, but then they got Ottoman'd and Ottomans pushed Orthodoxy and Pr*testantism.
>>508474892>Their identity is also severely muddled by schizos who larp as ancient thracians.Where are you retards even getting this from? This is like the fifth random westerner on 4chan who mentions "thracian LARP" and yet very few people actually talk about Thracians in Bulgaria. What made you think this? It's surely coming from some kind of a meme or youtube video or some shit like that.
>Bugar tatars make fun of Monkedonce for LARPing as Macedons despite being Slavs
>Also Bugar tatars LARP as Thracians despite being Slavs
KEKAROO, you are the same!
>>508475320>yet very few people actually talk about Thracians in BulgariaI have seen you talk about it alot on pol tho
>>508475320I see Bulgarians larp as Thracians online constantly, be it on 4chan/twitter/youtube comments sections now or anthropology forums back in the day. Also, every wikipedia article about the country's history has some needless reference to its nonexistent "thracian heritage" shoehorned in.
>>508475704>>508475722oh so it's 4chan. Thought so.
>>508475320>and yet very few people actually talk about Thracians in Bulgariathe first ppl listed here for your ancestors is Thracians lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarians
>>508475830its also on wikipedia, thracians are first listed as your ancestors
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>>508475320it's a movement that spread on facebook
their figureheads even sell larp books and shit (Sparotok). they are really good at pushing pseudohistory while having no historical qualifications, and dumb normies fall for sweet lies
it's western aligned(pushed), because it denies slavs and "eastern invaders" and we wuz core europeans and shit
>>508475952>>508476031there's three genetic sources for the claim and not a single one of them is by a Bulgarian
>>508475952it's hilarious because most of Bulgaria's pre-Slavic ancestry isn't even Thracian, it comes from Greco-Anatolian transplants who resettled the Balkans after the Gothic wars all but destroyed the local the population.
>>508473725 (OP)O yes, the place next door to the Byzantine empire.
>>508473725 (OP)Very nicely said
A country like Bulgaria will always have more soul than the artificial countries like the US or Canada.
>>508476224Wrong. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.70037
>>508476142>it denies slavs and "eastern invaders" and we wuz core europeans and shitthis is always funny as fuck to see alboshits and "greeks" n other self proclaimed "europeans" say because slavs' homeland pretty much co-incides with the proto indo european homeland both in modern day southern ukraine, blue eyes and red hair is also from the same general region of the red earth basin in ukraine afaik, if thats not the european heartland then idk what is, rest of europe had non indo european people at that time
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Bulgarians
>About 55% of the Bulgarian autosomal genetic legacy is Mediterranean, about the half of which resembles the Caucasian, Middle Eastern and to a lesser extent the North African genetics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Serbs
>According to 2023 archaeogenetic study autosomal qpAdm modelling, the modern-day Serbs from the Western Balkans are 58.4% of Central-Eastern European early medieval (mostly Slavic), 39.2% of Croatia-Serbia local Roman and 2.3% Imperial Era West Anatolian ancestry
>>508475952Did they move it around, I'm pretty sure at some point in some article "Thracians" existed at a third position with barely any relevance.
That's how it's in our history books at least during my time, no idea what they are teaching to kids now.
Certainly people define themselves as mostly Bulgarian, whatever that means to them. We have larpers of every flavor.
I SUMMON THE ANCIENT THRACIAN POWERS TO PUNISH THE DOUBTERS
>>508476674>According to 2023 archaeogenetic study autosomal qpAdm modelling, the modern-day Serbs from the Western Balkans are 58.4% of Central-Eastern European early medieval (mostly Slavic)see picrel in
>>508476420Bulgarians also plot almost identically to Serbs on PCA.
>>508477183So you are saying we are 2.4% more slavic than them? Shitskins btfo
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>>508475885This guy gets it, Dii Tribe Best Tribe btw.
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I've done one of those jew DNA tests and here are the results.
>>508476420>>508476674https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4170574/
this work has significantly more data and puts Bulgarians right on top of Greek people
pic related is another PCA with Romanian data included and puts Bulgaria right on top of Romania
there are two potential explanations that explain this: your theory of mongolic bulgars or whatever it is that you're trying to claim here, is false, or Romania and Greece and Serbia are all collectively mongols, or funnier yet, Greeks and Italians to an extent are slavs or at least very slav-adjacent (when looking at the first generalized PCA)
>>508477354The amount of Slavic DNA in the Balkans isn't actually very different between nations (typically in the ballpark of 50%-60%), the big distinctions come from the sources of non-Slavic DNA. Whereas Croats, Bosnians and western Serbs have more autochthonous/paleo-Balkan DNA, the eastern Balkans (i.e. Bulgaria, Macedonia, and eastern Serbia) have more recent (late antique/early medieval) Anatolian input.
>>508477774>>508478000I did one of those too and the creators can go kys for writing albanian on one of em, I'll never forgive israel for this
>>508478000Sure, let's see yours now, big guy
>>508478102or we can go with the much simpler explanation: there is a genetic influence from indigenous people from antiquity that were (still are) shared all across the Roman Empire's territories
>>508478514the closeness with Italy comes from the fact that these studies were done in an Italian lab and they had more detailed Italian material, lel
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>>508478366>>508478567>Croatia>Bosnia>Serbia>Analbania>Grease>Bulgarian nowhere mentionedThis is proof that Majmundons arent bugars, shizo bugars BTFO
>>508478951true, they are greco-albanian gypsies that only match close with our brownest regions
>>508478841not the only study that maps us on top of the generalized Roman cluster and by a mile when compared to everyone else, and we can compare against ancient shitalians as well to exclude modern day sample bias. We also have domestic samples from the Iron Age Bulgaria to compare against and our drift was minimal.
Lol the dumb persians walked into the trap and started bombing us bases
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>>508478951desu I think most of those ethnic labels on those kinda sites are just guesswork, on the old version 0.95 I had this
before they albod me
fucks
>>508479177KEKAROOOOOO
eastern bulgaria is fucking mad max madness star wars tatooine lawless fucking shit
only the west (closest to macedonia) is worth anything, rila monastery, pirin, sofia... y'all ain't got ANYTHING east of sofia that's worth visiting for a human, admit it
>>508478102That study is from more than 10 years ago, did they even have early Slavic and iron age Balkan samples sequenced back then? Anyway, Bulgarians plot in proximity to *northern* Greeks, who are chock full of Slavic DNA, not Peloponnesian Greeks. Even your own old ass PCA discredits most of what you said, you clearly see that Italians plot quite far from Bulgarians, while Slovenians and (southern) Greeks are equally distant from Bulgarians.
>>508479221>We also have domestic samples from the Iron Age Bulgaria to compare against and our drift was minimal.That's just blatantly not true, I posted a study from this year proving otherwise.
>>508476420>>508476557
>>508479255wait really? why is crypto pumping then
>>508479308>on the old version 0.95 I had this>before they albod meHoly fuck they literally pulled the ol switchero
>>508479255>>508479544half the normies I know are genuinely worried aobut le ww3
I can't imagine living life without "nothing ever happens" mentality
there will be no invasion, not even trump is that zogd and retarded
>>508479308>only the west (closest to macedonia) is worth anything, rila monastery, pirin, sofia..Most of eastern Bulgaria was sparsely populated before Ottoman rule (and only became majority Bulgarian within the past 200 years). Most people in the east have roots in western or central Bulgaria.
>>508479513This is the plot created by your source. It literally confirms all of the "outdated" plots that I have posted above. We are right on top of Mongolic Romania and Mongolic Macedonia. Either we're literally the same people and they're mongols by association (i.e the turkic origin theory of Bulgaria automatically applies to the entire region and not just Danubian Bulgaria), or something else is happening here.
Also the distance between Russia and Bulgaria is three times the distance between Italy and Bulgaria. The distance between England and Italy about two times. We are closer to France than we are to any of the slavics (or the turkics), which can only possibly be explained by one single origin theory.
If I got any of this wrong I'd love to hear your take on the data that you're posting but make it quick because I need to watch the happening.
>>508473725 (OP)the best part of waking up is Bulgars in your cup
>>508480880I thought it's very commonly accepted that a small retinue came with Khan Asparukh into a disunited majority slavic land, and introduced administration, linguistics, warfare tactics, and leadership, but the turkic-genetic factor was mostly devoured by the vast overwhelming population of slavic tribes in the region.
I mean cousins of the Dulo dynasty ruled in Volgha Bulgaria until the end of the 1000s.
>>508481256Nevermind, not linguistics. But I believe Slavs united around Asparukh and his retinue because they were efficient against the Byzantines.
Slavs, in history, are notoriously shit at ruling each other and constantly invite foreigners to rule them.
Same thing happened with Rurik of Sweden - he came with like a thousand Norse warriors and then ruled over the slavs, but the Norse settlers' genetics were assimilated in full within 3-4 generations.
>>508480880no point posting this meme shit
Balkan genetics were "finalized" in ~500 with the invasions of slavs and what-not, which is obviously different from the previous population. Most of the "paleo" component is not actually local.
Also, "turkic" is primarily a linguistic definition, you won't defeat it with genetics, even if it's still absurd as there's no real linguistic evidence to support it, but at this point we don't have anything better to replace it with either.
>>508480290Just watch in unfold bro. Cant believe they fell for this, expected more strategy from iran
>>508481672>iran supposedly has thousands of missiles>they launch like 2 at qatar US bases, both interceptedit jsut doesn't add up, what kinda fuckin theater is this
unless they are just that cucked and destroyed by israel that they can't do anything but launch 10 at a time, in which case why even bother
oh well, bibi's rampage will be ongoing for like 10 more years till that nigga dies
>>508480880Wtf does "Mongolic" anything have to do with what I said? Also you're retarded for using Russia as a baseline for what "Slavic" DNA is, Russians are full of straight up non-IE ancestry like Finnic and actual Turkic. Bulgaria is right in-between Italy and Slovakia (actual baseline Slavs) on that PCA, which backs up the idea that Bulgarians are about half Slavic and half imperial roman mystery meat. Anyway, I didn't even dispute that Macedonia and Romania are different from Bulgaria so again, why even bring that up?
Also, the Bulgars were Turkic (not like Tuvans or Kazakhs obviously, think Crimean Tatar or something, meaning predominantly West Eurasian by blood). Their numbers were quite small though, so they're practically irrelevant to the Bulgarian genome anyway.
>>508482038>I didn't even dispute that Macedonia and Romania are different from BulgariaMeant to say "the same as Bulgaria", not "different from Bulgaria"
>>508481256By archaeology, the typical south slavic population is almost absent from East Bulgaria, except a few compact groups on border regions (confirming what's written in Byzantine sources).
Meanwhile, Pliska gets bigger and bigger with every new research using radars and other scan tech.
The theory that Bulgars were already part-slav when they came here seems much more plausible. There's no need for a language switch or anything to exist.
>>508481949Maybe im wrong and its a high iq move to bind more air defense missile to the bases and respectively less resupply to israel. Who knows, as you said none of it makes much sense
>>508481479>but at this point we don't have anything better to replace it with either.Aren't there a bunch of genetic studies that prove the 6th-7th century Bulgars were very closely genetically related to the North Caucasian populations of that time period? Could look into whether there's a genetic or linguistic connection to the Sarmatians or the European Huns.
>>508482901Nothing official yet. We have a joint study with Reich Lab that includes Bulgar samples, but it progresses slowly, it's been a few years now. We get some occasional leaks from our team, but they are still speculative. Even after the results are old, actual historians will have to take on and interpret them in a way that makes sense, which might still be difficult.
