>>508464208
>Jesus commands his followers to obey their earthly masters you stupid bell end.
Because I don't think he ever did. In fact, Jesus himself was an enemy of the state, and was crucified by the state. Jesus simply said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" but never specified what Caesar's is. He was speaking rhetorically. The answer is nothing at all.

Romans 13 DOES say you must dickride the state, but this is a retcon that was added by Paul long after Jesus' death and it contradicts the words and deeds of Jesus himself. It is also illogical, given that atheist (or otherwise anti-Christian) regimes can, do, and have come about. Some exist in the world today right now in the present time.

>For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.
So is someone who is a terror to good works a ruler? Yes or No

>>508518143 (OP)
>The answer is nothing at all
No he was saying pay your taxes and also tithe to the church.

>>508518976
>he was saying pay your taxes
He says "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" but without directly specifying what Caesar's is. In a communist system this would be everything (according to the state). How would you render anything to God if the state took everything and also banned your religion?

we have no firsthand accounts of rabbi yeshua

we have no idea what he actually lived like

stop worshiping jewish fairytales goylem

>>508520695
>He says "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" but without directly specifying what Caesar's is
The passage is found in the Gospel of Matthew, where Jesus is asked whether it is lawful to pay taxes to Caesar. He responds by asking for a Roman coin and pointing out that it bears Caesar's image and inscription. He then instructs his followers to give to Caesar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to God

He did specify

>>508521341
The image on the coin is Caesar? Sure. But Caesar didn't create the gold or silver the coin was minted of. God made that.

>>508522130
>But Caesar didn't create the gold or silver the coin was minted of. God made that.
That's irrelevant lol

>>508518143 (OP)
>and it contradicts the words and deeds of Jesus himself
No it doesn't you kike

>It is also illogical, given that atheist (or otherwise anti-Christian) regimes can, do, and have come about
And the NT also says do not sin so that grace may increase. So if the Gov tells you to sin, don't do it. The requirement to follow is nullified because the actual moral law outranks the civil obedience command Jesus gave us. Jesus never said all commands are equally important. He directly answered which is the greatest command. He didn't say "oh they're all the same none are greater than another" etc.

>>508518143 (OP)
Stalin was the most evil man who ever lived. His wretched soul is burning in hell as we speak

>>508523580
>Stalin was the most evil man who ever lived. His wretched soul is burning in hell as we speak
I'm not disagreeing with you (though there might be some worse, but that's debatable). But doesn't the existence of Stalin and especially for as long as his reign lasted kinda prove Paul wrong with Romans 13? But again, obeying Stalin wasn't something Jesus himself ever did, but Paul said so.

>>508522792
Actually smelting comes from the Fallen Angels