>if it hits a bird this happens to a plane
>but we are supposed to believe this brought down the twin towers made of steel and concrete
Retarded shit.

>>508520936 (OP)
Yeah...

>>508520936 (OP)
Do you exist in a cartoon physics world where things that break lose all momentum?

>>508520936 (OP)
Please show me the planes after they hit the tower, and the bird after it hit the plane.

Just so I can see how the other side fared.

>>508520936 (OP)
YES BECAUSE IT DIDNT SURVIVE THAT EITHER ANON IT FUCKING BLEW UP

Yeah.

Thats were the weather radar is. Its not metal...as that would block the signal.

And yeah, a plane crashing into a skyscraper causes signicant damage...

>>but we are supposed to believe this brought down the twin towers made of steel and concrete
but it didn't
the jet fuel did :^)

>>508521874
>And yeah, a plane crashing into a skyscraper causes signicant damage...
what dropped building 7

>>508521321
>full saaport saaaaar

>>508520936 (OP)
>>508521321
I don't understand conspiritards like this.
OP thinks the The Elites™ are smart enough to create a fake holographic airplane crash, but too stupid to know that planes are actually made of paper or whatever is being insinuated here.
Or it just never occured to them that they didn't have to fake a holographic plane crash and could've just used the bombs, and said that was the terrorist attack. That i think is an enormous plot hole that 9/11 conspiritards never seem to consider.

Makes sense now that the passports survived.

I mean imagine throwing a bird at a passport, I don't think it'll do much damage

>>508520936 (OP)
ONLY TWO OPTIONS:
1) You don't know water is used to cut steel, and posted that.

or

2) You do know water is used to cut steel, and still posted that.

Either way...you're a fucking retard!

>>508520936 (OP)
>a 500 ton object going 3-400mph will do absolutely nothing to a building
Yeah this is why you flip burgers.

>>508520936 (OP)

>>508520936 (OP)
the planes didn't bring the towers down
the burning jet fuel did

>>508522648

>>508522417
Besides the fact multiple I beams went through the roof? Nothing.

>>508522694

>>508520936 (OP)
The nose is just fibreglass.

>>508522513
Because conspiracy theories are how idiots make sense of things they don't understand.

It's like asking a child how turbine jet engines work and getting their best guess which is always something like "It works by magic"

>>508520936 (OP)
>retarded shit
Indeed you are anon, how do bullets work in your world?

>>508522717
https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-zPna-OI70

>>508522558
>memeflag
>water cuts steel even when nonwater hits it

>>508522648
>ignores the smoke coming from the building
Are you serious?

>>508522747
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport

>>508522558 #
>memeflag
>water cuts steel even when no water hits it

>>508522417
>what dropped building 7
-- > Carefully placed explosives

>>508522954
anons, notice how the jew shills are pushing back so hard against 9/11 truths lately? its because sign tappers have them desperate.

So why did the third building fall?

Why don't birds bring down planes more often? It seems like it would happen pretty regularly.

>>508522954
https://archive.org/details/UrbanMovingSystems

>>508522850
Except they were wrong. The debris combined with the fires started that burned the top floor for hours combined with the construction of the building (Jews cheaped out) caused it. Controlled demolition dosen't look like that.

>>508520936 (OP)

Hey. Cool it with the anti semitism

>>508522954
>Today, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) acknowledges that WTC 7 fell at a rate of free fall (or the rate of gravity) for a period of approximately 2.25 seconds before it started to slow down.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/free-fall-acceleration

>>508523134
The Jews DID do 9/11, they set up the terrorist group and sat back to watch. >>508523318
>aluminum
Anon aluminum melts at far lower temps.

>>508522417
The goddamned debris that had been falling around it all fucking day long. You weren't alive yet, Raj.

>>508522417
A 20 story chunk of the north tower thru the roof which gutted the interior structure of building 7

>>508523506
>for 2 seconds
If it was demolition it wouldn't have slowed.

>>508522984
I am a Christian White Nationalist Socialist, and this flag is the one that best describes me...if that bothers you Kikes, then that is your problem. I stand by my observation.

>>508523388
>Controlled demolition dosen't look like that.

>>508523506
>Today, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) acknowledges that WTC 7 fell at a rate of free fall (or the rate of gravity) for a period of approximately 2.25 seconds before it started to slow down.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/free-fall-acceleration

>>508522671
The jet fuel was a contributing factor. Steel loses 50% of its strength at temperatures above 500c

>>508523753
>slowed down
I know you're slow, but controlled explosions DON'T slow down, if anything they speed up.

>>508523576
>aluminum melts at far lower temps
It also doesn't glow red when molten, even at high heat it is a silver color.

Light open skeleton frame construction. House of cards!

>>508522671
>the planes didn't bring the towers down
>the burning jet fuel did
NO
EXPLOSIVES brought those buildings down.
You can tell just by how they fell.
You saw how evenly they fell straight down, right?

That is explosives.
- timed charges

People who don't believe there are Conspiracies are GULLIBLE, 1- dimensional NPC's

jews have been on major 911 coverup lately. they must be trying to clean the slate for some other fucked up event they are planning.

>>508523676
>If it was demolition it wouldn't have slowed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gISv99-aqfM

>>508523964
Neither metal needs to be be molten for structural integrity to collapse at such a high weight

>>508520936 (OP)
Maybe the tower was made in china

>>508523964
its pretty

>>508523964
But aluminum DOES burn, and jet fuel DOES burn hot enough to do this. The aluminum lost the protective coating through the impact, and the aircraft had a full fuel load.

>>508523860
>if anything they speed up.
>speed up from free fall acceleration

>>508524254
But the video shows molten steel.

>>508520936 (OP)
It's the jews.

>>508524064
>buildings don't fall when burning
They DO.
https://youtu.be/nnX6CyxMr8E?si=_fg2va1Dzm_zdlhC
Fire weakens metal, and most buildings are built within a 5%+/- of failure it would cost too much otherwise.

>>508522513
>9/11 conspiritards
The only people who talk like this are those who know nothing about it or those trying to control the narrative, and a certain small hatted people love to try to use shaming to get people to come into line. Go climb into an oven, Moshe.

>>508520936 (OP)
>ITT: retards who couldn't pass high school physics explain structural engineering

>>508524231
>you see explosions are SLOW
You are literally stupid.

>>508522524
It just goes to show how well they made passports in 2001.

>>508524335
>But aluminum DOES burn
>Aluminum remains solid at temperatures up to and including 199.4 degrees Fahrenheit (93 degrees Celsius) and will not burn except at very high temperatures. This means that aluminum is not considered flammable, nor is it considered to be combustible. It is often used for its flame retardant properties.
https://firefighterinsider.com/aluminum-flammable/

>>508524393
>hey explosions make things slow ok!
Yeah no.

>>508524727
>high school physics
https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

>>508520936 (OP)
I mean the radome is hollow and made of fiber glass, it has to cover the radar and not block signals.

>>508520936 (OP)
>but we are supposed to believe this brought down the twin towers made of steel and concrete
Wasn't the fucking nosecone that took down the towers. It was thousands upon thousands of gallons of burning fucking jet fuel. When steel melt's it's a fucking liquid, and even before it is liquified, it's as bendy as fucking taffy, ya dingus.

>>508524727
>high school
You're being too kind. I'd say about 3rd grade.
>explosions
THEN WHY SLAM PLANES INTO THE BUILDINGS

>>508523168
Hawks at airports.

>>508522513
>id LITERALLY glows
Pottery

>>508524738
>If it was demolition it wouldn't have slowed.

>>508522558
An ultra high-pressure jet of water focused into a needle point will cut steel a teeeeeeeny tiny bit at a time, not all at once. This is not the baseball bat to the face you thought it'd be.

>>508524763
Thats because the building collapsed in on it retard.

>>508524821
>free fall is slow

>>508524727
Who’d be believed more? My ass who studied mechanical engineering for 4 years or some /pol/tard who thinks they’ve uncovered a conspiracy through slop they found on the internet

God I miss when this board had a higher IQ, which is saying something.It’s been downhill ever since 2016

Daily reminder that the outside of the towers were clad in steel plating

>>508520936 (OP)
What do you think happened to the bird?

>>508524775
>aluminum ignition temperature
>660C/1220F
>Aviation Fuel burning temp
>1030C/1890F
Um.

>>508521321
I can't believe I'm not calling a memeflag a jew for once but OP is a kike who is spreading fud. Pretend that the planes that we all literally saw don't exist to discredit the the real aspect of the conspiracy.

>>508525296
What do you think of Professor Leroy Hurley's of the university of Alaska Fairbanks finite element analysis on wtc 7?
https://ine.uaf.edu/projects/wtc7/

>>508525217
Compared to demolition? Yes.

>>508525488
Considering his modeling was completely wrong? Yeah.

>>508525510
>things fall faster than free fall when demolished.
Have a good long think about that.

>>508520936 (OP)
Oy vey this is anti-semitism, delete this jannies

The airplanes also allegedly flew at a speed which would really break them at that altitude. The alleged hijackers were bad pilots of small airplanes. Even if they were good at flying those, they would still have to learn how to fly the big machines. Nothing about the attack on Manhattan makes sense. It's the same with the virus scam. There nothing made sense either. The yahwe in heaven also doesn't exist. It's obviously made up.

>>508520936 (OP)
How much does it weigh and how fast is it going you white trash retard? It even took out building 7.

>>508525627
>building SLOWED DOWN
Yeah you're a fucking moron.

Has nothing at all to do with the airliners.
Each main tower of the World Trade Center was designed to withstand a fully loaded Boeing 707 striking it at 600 miles per hour.
And as is clearly seen from the myriad videotapes of both towers, they stayed up as their engineers and architects designed them to.
after the impacts, each tower swayed gently back and forth about 10 seconds, and stayed robust integral and vertical.

>>508525568
Did you study NISTs modelling data?

Do you believe a fire on floor 13 caused 6 inches of lateral girder expansion causing column 79 to become unseated which led to a progressive collapse?

>>508525656
Anon those planes weren't going overmax.

>>508525715
It slowed down after 2.25 seconds of free fall.

See.
>>508525068

>>508521321
If there is one thing my years of posting here has taught me it's that many anons actually think shit works like cartoons

>>508525730
Yes. But it was the fucking FIRES that burned through the fucking building that took them down you moron.

I am astounded how little people here seem to know about 9/11. I saw it happen at work, and I've spent 24 years reading, absorbing, collecting every video everyone ever put out on it - these are engineers, demolition experts, pilots, aviation engineers, not /pol/ produced videos.
>>508525730
Correction: they were each designed to take multiple impacts from 707s.

>>508525730
Then they detonated the thermite.

>>508525743
>unstable
When exposed to 1300° heat and impact shock? Yes, it's why putting out fires is important.

>>508522983
What is it? Which page is interesting?

Skimmed through first 20 pages and its just a boring protocol

>>508520936 (OP)
You dumb nigger the plane didn't lose mass, it just underwent plastic deformation

Imagine being Al-Qaeda. Spending so much time and effort successfully executing one of the infamous attacks in recent memory, and a bunch of dumbfucks are convinced it was an inside job and don’t give you credit. Just completely disregard your effort.

I’d suicide-bomb myself over that shit.

>>508525796
Yes. Explosions DON'T SLOW DOWN. It goes free fall ALL THE WAY because there is no more structure support.

>>508525966
>these are engineers, demolition experts, pilots, aviation engineers
These guys?
https://www.ae911truth.org/
They've done so much work I agree.

>>508526026
Answer my questions.

Did you study NISTs modelling data?

Do you believe a fire on floor 13 caused 6 inches of lateral girder expansion causing column 79 to become unseated which led to a progressive collapse?

>>508522625
It'll cause some damage but it ain't bringing down a 100 story skyscraper twice, give me a break.

>>508525966
>each designed to take multiple impacts from 707s
checked, yes
thanks for the correction

>>508525296
dont flatter yourself with MUH DEGREEZ. the tourist is YOU, you fucking red.dit account having shitstain

>cap BASEDHHR
even kek knows you dont belong here

>>508526033
The part where Israelis were dancing and celebrating while filming the 9/11 attacks and then when arrested told the FBI that they were only there to "document the events."

>>508524657
>Fire weakens metal
Fire weakens metal unevenly in a fire stared by a crash
Why didn't they tip over, or to one side...?
A - because it was a controlled demolition.
The only way all 3 THREE bldg could come straight down SO evenly!

>>508526123
>It goes free fall ALL THE WAY
See.
>>508525068

>>508526262
> I don't understand kinetic energy
Yes we know

>>508526123
>>508526364
Sorry I just had a thought that you're claiming that all buildings without exception in controlled demolitions fall at 9.8 m/2 for the entire collapse.

You're not claiming that are you?

The WTC is not designed like skyscrapers today. Today is a wall of glass with the majority steel at the elevator core, but the WTC had a perimeter of structural steel. What we saw, couldn't have happened. The aircraft has to be as light as possible, so it has a thin aluminum skin. But there are heavy metal parts like the engines that can't just disappear.

The structural steel is one part, but hitting the concrete floor on the end is another. Concrete has incredible compressive strength. If one of the engines hit the floor it digs in 4-5' and then falls down to the street level.

The South tower collapsed in 56 minutes. The steel wouldn't have even been warm in 56 minutes. All the stuff you hear about steel melting is total horseshit and anyone that works with steel knows better. The only way those towers went down is undermining all of the steel core until it was just standing, then detonating cutting charges when you want it to come down.

>>508522717
Those ibeams magically flew 350 feet over and then dropped on building 7

>>508526122
And even more odd that the entire Muslim world celebrates AND they take credit for it.
>dancingisraelis.gif
>later
>by Allah Osama we need to tell the Americans that we COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS
>nah I've publicly released a manifesto that says we DID
>OSAMA WHY IN THE FUCK DID YOU DO THAT!?!?
>lol, lamo

>>508525743
>which led to a progressive collapse?
The fault in that is right in your post. Progressive. Building 7 free-fell with no stuttering as unbroken girders failed or in the places where the structure was undamaged, like nearly the entire exterior, thos frame members would've offered resistance, even if the rest of the building fell inwards. It would've looked more like it fell in on itself. Nothing about any of these buildings falling makes any sense unless you accept controlled demolition. The two tall towers had no reason to fall into their own footprints. Were the impacts straight down? Nope. The ONLY way a building of that size would fall into its own footprint is if the supporting structure is broken in a way that no supporting member would offer unbalanced support in any way. Even a small section of one side staying together for just a moment, even in a controlled demolition, would've caused the building to fall sideways. Why didn't either of those towers tip even a few feet in one direction. What are the odds?

>>508526275
Says the mobile user

>>508525898
>21 pbtid the fucking FIRES
Correct, as the NIST reports on the tower collapses conclude.

Why then—if before and after that day, no thousand-foot-high steel-framed skyscraper has collapsed into its own footprint at free fall velocity—were none of the international fire or building codes changed anywhere in the world?
Surely the danger of office materials creating the fires that destroyed World Trade Center steel skyscraper towers 1, 2, and 7 would warrant this
No changes made to building structural or fire codes, though.

>>508526570
>Nothing about any of these buildings falling makes any sense unless you accept controlled demolition
Correct.

>>508524681
>>508525061
>no argument

>>508525207
What happened to its wings?

>>508526207
>>508526364
>>508526541
>fucking retard keeps trying to claim explosions slow things down
Did you know claymore mines slow down ball bearings? Go stand in front of a armed one and detonate it.

>>508520936 (OP)
It's the speed that matters.

If you took a grain of sand and sent it at the speed of light, you could create an explosion equivalent to a nuclear blast.

>>508520936 (OP)
The nose is composite so it doesn't affect the weather radar

>>508526568
I'm convinced this created more terrorists desu. While the snackbars are screaming death to America, trying to raise awareness of the zog Jew destroying everything, liberals ran around hugging Arabs and telling them that they're just misunderstood.

That would radicalise me so fucking fast

>>508526570
That was the conclusions of NIST and the 911 commission report I was contrasting it to Professor Leroy Hulseys conclusions which actually make sense and can be tested as his modelling data has not been withheld.

>>508525467
All of the fuel burned up the during the initial explosion.

>>508526609
>no there were explosions!
>no residue found
Ooooooof

>>508526762
Just hold on a second though.
Are you claiming that all buildings without exception in controlled demolitions fall at 9.8 m/2 for the entire collapse.

You're not claiming that are you?
I think you dug yourself a hole.

>>508526741
The hollow aluminium structure filled with pressurised jet fuel? I guess they just flew away

>>508526558
It doesn’t help several optical illusions occurred such as the “nose” exiting one side of the building which was just a burst of dust.

>>508526762

>>508526349
i recommend this also, bush criminality has NOTHING on these neoliberal marxist commies

they never sued this guy either for some seriously egregious claims, so i am going to say they are all factual

>>508526823
you can't accelerate sand to the speed of light

>>508526741
>dosen't understand crumpling
I'm starting to understand why Jews see us as dumb cattle.

>>508526919
> The fuel burned but not the wings the fuel was contained inside
Please nuke yourselves. The world deserves better than this level of retarded

>>508526979
That building wasn’t explosives. They tried explosives on it before remember it didn’t work.

>>508526979
>explosions slow things down
Not responding to you anymore.

>>508526984
Oh thank goodness I hoped they flew to safety in some secure spot like Israel

>>508526981
Doesn't even look like a plane strike to me it legit looks like an explosión/bomb

>>508523653
Can you name any other steel framed structures in history that collapsed from a fire?

>>508526991
>It doesn’t help several optical illusions occurred such as the “nose” exiting one side of the building which was just a burst of dust.
>dust

>>508520936 (OP)
A fully loaded 767 weighs nearly half a million pounds, you fucking retards.
A D-9 Caterpillar Dozer weighs only 100,000 lbs, so a fully loaded 767 is like throwing FIVE D-9 bulldozers at a building at 500 miles per hour with 160,000 lbs. of jet fuel thrown in for good measure.
Mass x Acceleration = Force, you fucking faggots.
How come none of you assholes stayed awake during Physics in high school??

>>508527187
A plane is a bomb, its just a manual expensive version of a missile.

>>508527056
crumpled into nothingness?

>>508527187
>Doesn't even look like a plane strike to me it legit looks like an explosión/bomb
bingo

>>508527157
>Not responding to you anymore.
Because you dug such a large hole for yourself. One you can't dig yourself out of.

A controlled demolition will never cause a building to fall faster than 9.8m/s2 and not all controlled demolitions result in the free fall of the building being demolished.

You did this to yourself because you aren't allowed to concede anything. WellI had fun.

>>508527265
Kek nice. Also nukes aren't real. Japan was firebombed.
>>508527280
Airplanes don't make perfect symmetric building collapse, retard. It would have collapsed sideways.

>>508527217
>buildings don't collapse from fire
Anon they ALL DO. This is why firefighting is so critical. Wait until you find out what fire does to ships.

>>508527265
FAA guys without any reason to lie said this video was dust exactly. They had seen it before somehow.

>>508520936 (OP)
>when I pwess down weawwy hawd on a wead buwwet, da buwwet defowms
>you can't teww me that a buwwet wike dis couwd kiww a man

>>508527373
The absolute retardation of some of you shills is astonishing.
You're a fucking idiot, but I would imagine everyone you know already knows that.
Jesus Christ, how fucking stupid are people today?

>>508527379
You didn't name a steel beam structure that collapsed from fire. It doesn't happen.

Just like airplanes don't make buildings collapse vertically. Only controlled demolitions can.

Watch some videos of building demolition fails. That's what an airplane would do. Perfect demolitions take planning, skill, and intention.

>>508527379
>claims every building that is demolished collapses at free fall
>goes on to claim every uncontrolled fire leads to a building collapse
Holes can feel like a safe place to hide but if you keep digging eventually you won't be able to climb out.

>>508527359
>dug a hole
Uh no. You're the one making claims you can't back that are easily disproved by common fucking sense.

>>508527280
/pol/'s collective iq is room temperature and they literally jump at every shadow, it's not worth getting worked up over it

>>508527492
I accept your concession. Thanks for rejecting peer reviewed evidence.

>>508527373
based

>>508522524
An African Swallow? Laden or unladen?

>>508527531
>You're the one making claims you can't back that are easily disproved by common fucking sense.

These claims?
>A controlled demolition will never cause a building to fall faster than 9.8m/s2 and not all controlled demolitions result in the free fall of the building being demolished.

>>508527510
Fire DOES. Go look up videos of building fires.

>>508527383
>FAA guys without any reason to lie
lol
lmao

>>508527280
A D9 bulldozer with the blade is a much, much more resilient piece of machinery than a 767. You are being very disingenuous with your argument..

>>508522417
>what dropped building 7
ur mum

>>508526880
>Professor Leroy Hulseys conclusions
Which say?

>>508527359
> B b b what if the Jews have gravity bombs and accelerate the fall above 9.8m/s/s


Checkmate christcucks

>>508527616
>the building slowed down
>you
>YOU SEE EXPLOSIONS DID THIS!
You're an idiot.

>>508522558
it's the pressure that cuts, not the water, just like sand it's used to remove rust and paint

>>508527557
"Peer reviewed" kek
Your mental retardation requires no one to review it, since it is fully on display every time you type some bullshit into your crusty pc.
Masturbate less, study moar.

>>508527373
didn't someone divulge it already the big secret of 33rd degree freemasonry basically was child rape of your choosing

>>508527807
To be fair his peers are also fucking retarded. They're all in the same special ed class, so it's entirely possible his evidence is peer reviewed

>>508527642
Mass x Acceleration = Force, dipshit.
A teensy-tiny paint chip blew a massive hole in the window of the Space Shuttle because it was flying at 17,000 mph.
You cannot be this utterly stupid, can you?

>>508527754

>>508527902
Fucker you made me spit my fucking water.

>>508527754
If only there was something under the first falling floor to prevent the top floor from effortlessly falling all the way to the bottom. Almost “slowing” as it falls.

/pol/ has minecraft brain.

>>508527902
That is the only answer. I'm tilting at retarded windmills for sure - the willingness of retards to believe other retards is why Bigfoot legends still exist.

>>508527700
That in order for the symmetrical free fall collapse of wtc 7 to occur all the main vertical structural support columns must have failed practically simultaneously, but read his report and look at his finite element analysis yourself it's very thorough.

People like to claim his modelling data is bad or wrong but no one has a meaningful critique and NISTs modelling data is pseudo classified and won't be released ever because of "public safety concerns".

Professor Leroy Hulseys model is objectively the best one that has been done.

>>508527933
How are the bagels at Langley today?

>>508527981
>just call someone a jew!
Name calling (also wrong) absolute pottery.

>>508527557
my favorite peer reviewed article was Rat Dick

which one was yours

>>508527754
I thought you were going to stop responding to me because you couldn't answer this.
>Are you claiming that all buildings without exception in controlled demolitions fall at 9.8 m/2 for the entire collapse.

>>508528071
"I'm losing the argument, time to call him:
1) JOOO
2) SPOOK
Pick one or both..."
Faggot.

>>508528060
>classified
>is easily modeled
Um.

>>508521321
The energy is lost in the breaking of tensile connections in the airframe.
That principle is used in cars. They call it crumple zones there.
In planes it's a product of engineering the frame to be as thin and lightweight as possible for the specified wet weight requirements.

>>508527751
Fuck I forgot about the Jewish gravity bombs.

>>508528173
They do you fucking moron. All the support is GONE.

>>508528208
Why do you think NIST refused to release their modelling data on their finite element analysis of wtc 7?

>>508526598
i go outside

do you niggers ever do that or are you a bunch of chris chans

>>508520936 (OP)
>twin towers made of steel and concrete
I don't trust the claim that Americans used steel and concrete. Possibly some watered down versions of both.
Americans looooveee shoddy construction materials.

>>508528219
>crumple zones
>for a aircraft
Are you fucking serious.

>>508528206
You seem nervous agent shlomo

>>508526933
>residue
iron-rich microspheres of thermite

>>508528297
>all buildings without exception in controlled demolitions fall at 9.8 m/2 for the entire collapse.
I didn't think you'd make it so easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gISv99-aqfM
Well, moving on then.

>>508528323
>refused
Except they showed their modeling? You can do this yourself.

>>508528588
the modeling is a video, NIST refuses to release the data used to make the video, because it has beams glitching everywhere and is not an actual representation of a simulation

>>508528474
>looks at the shacks in Mexico
>who builds American buildings
Boy you're in a house made of air.

>>508528588
They did not.
https://ic911.org/toronto-hearings/report/toronto-report-ch-09/
>The data and assumptions that went into NIST’s computer models have not been made public.

>>508528474
>Possibly some watered down versions of both
What exactly do you think "watered down" steel and concrete means and how would that be made? Retarded spic

>>508526123
>35 pbtid
The explosions—as in any controlled demolition, go watch thousands of them on YouTube—are required to sequentially remove the structural elements of the steel skyscraper one-by-one
That is how a controlled demolition goes down at near free fall velocity: by *REMOVING* the supporting structural members, with explosives.

>>508524254
where are you taking those goal posts mate.

>>508528523
>thermite explodes!
No.
>>508528551
>posts ground level detonation
You are a fucking moron.

>>508520936 (OP)

>>508528672
Look at the comparison between NISTs model and Professor Leroy Hulseys model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVE3YwRgU9k

>>508528672
>>508528741
>the data
You can do this yourself.

Only boomers and retards believe 9/11

>>508528683
"Shacks" are things made out of wood. Our homes are made of concrete.
Americans buy shoddy construction materials, then hire shoddy Mexican builders.

>>508528846
So now you've conceded that not all buildings without exception in controlled demolitions fall at 9.8 m/2 for the entire collapse.

What shall we do now?

>>508528588
>37 pbtid
>they showed their modeling
Nothing about the WTC 7 NIST report model makes any sense at all. Or stands up to engineering review (debunked by scholar in Alaska)
It took NIST seven years to concoct their Building 7 fairy tale half baked dog's breakfast 'report' and so-called "models" of that building's collapse.

>>508528928
We have concrete and brick in the US you retarded nigger

>>508528917
You can't check NISTs modelling data yourself because NIST didn't release their modelling data.

>>508528743
Meaning something different buy they call it concrete and steel anyway.
Like the planks made out of chips of wood, that get called "resistant wood"

>>508528482
they are required for all aircraft built after 1995 or so, same for airbags

>>508522648
>and then randomly, out of nowhere, it just starts falling

>>508520936 (OP)
5 story indian building supported a 787 without collapsing the other day too. people want to believe what they're told so they don't feel a responsibility to fight back and risk their comfort

>>508528876
>hulseys model
>dosen't look like collapse
>NIST
>does
Hmmmmmmm.
>why don't they show data
I wonder why a agency wouldn't put out information that makes it easier to bring down buildings or anything, it doesn't make sense!

>>508529230
>that get called "resistant wood"
It's called particle board you retarded nigger. We have regulations and standards for materials in this country, you do not

>>508520936 (OP)
They hit the WTC going at 550mph you fucking moron. F=mA

>>508529048
Yeah but only an exceedingly small percentage of homes are made out of those materials. Our homes are made with planned obsolescence even. Do you think a wooden shit shack made of particleboard is going to hold up for much longer than 70 years? Don’t you ever wonder why we have almost no old architecture anywhere?

>>508528962
>it was debooonked
Lol, lamo.

>>508525068
I fucking hate you deceptive mother fuckers. Show the video of it buckling from the other side before it collapses

>>508529495
>hulseys model
>dosen't look like collapse
>NIST
>does
Is this bait?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVE3YwRgU9k

>>508529529
>no old architecture
Maybe because remodeling and new construction is a thing?

>>508529509
Yes. Particle board, and they call it wood.
And it's a shit material.
Regulations and standards for shoddy materials, doesn't turn them into good materials.

>>508529529
>Do you think a wooden shit shack made of particleboard is going to hold up for much longer than 70 years?
No, but also that has nothing to do with what's being discussed
>Don’t you ever wonder why we have almost no old architecture anywhere?
There is old architecture everywhere you retarded nigger just open your faggot eyes

>>508529634
>post a video of wtc 7s collapse
>get called deceptive
Do you want some sauce for that chip on your shoulder?

>>508529659
>no it does!
Lol.
>posts wrong model
>you see it couldn't happen
Lamo.

>>508529771
I broke it.
Sorry guys.

>>508529698
>Regulations and standards for shoddy materials, doesn't turn them into good materials.
It means that we know shitty material is bad. You think people spend top dollar on particle board and call it quality but you're actually just making shit up about a country you've never visited and hopefully never will.

>>508520936 (OP)
They claim they hit multiple large birds, but I still kinda doubt it.

>>508521321
kek

>>508529526
So that means the WTC Will collapse at free fall speeds?

https://archive.org/details/Sept12200112accelerationduetogravitytimesquared

>>508529563
>43 pbtid bot
>lamo
(You) = lame-o

>>508525898
>But it was the fucking FIRES that burned through the fucking building that took them down
a little fire way up near the top of a building is going to cause it to collapse? lol literally doesnt happen like that

Remember it's a hollow tube and two large blocks of metal. Why is there only one hole at the Pentagon. Missle.

>>508522417

Bird bones are structurally stronger than steel. Nature is amazong.

>>508520936 (OP)
Yeah. I can’t believe I trot sell that shit, that it could have happened under perfect conditions. The easiest exis the Jews.

>>508522513
If you actually knew how the towers were constructed you'd see why people are waking up to the truth. No other building has ever been taken down by a plane. Yet you believe the 2 towers that were overengineered to stay upright in case a plane crashed into it fell because they couldn't do what they were specifically built to do? So you'd have to believe whoever built the towers lied about their plane surviving abilities. Wonder who built them? Either conspiracy points to jews as the villian. Nice logic you got going for you. Either jews made it seem the planes took them down or jews built a shoddy building that couldn't withstand what the jews spent millions extra to withstand.

>>508520936 (OP)
A bird dint do that jackass

>>508522717

Shut up. When you have NO clue what the fuck you're saying you should stop talking. NIST tried to claim it was ONE failed support that caused building 7 to collapse. Then they were called out on their bullshit and they quietly put out the statement im my image. So I took a screenshot and I never forget they lied.

>>508529761
>Get called deceptive
>Deflect when called out on his schizo bullshit
I hope you get raped by Rajeesh you bogan cunt

>>508522717
>>508523166

>>508529921
You are the definition of retarded. You are the definition of Dunning-Kruger effect

>>508530085

>>508530821
Are you old enough to actually remember 9/11? Do you not remember the big WTC collapsing on WTC 7??? If you actually did your homework you'd find pictures of the corner of the building completely missing before it collapsed

>>508521185
The USAF used to help the RAF test their aircraft. They would both blast a turkey at the nose cones to test structural integrity, stimulating bird strikes. One time the Bongs couldn't figure out why their planes kept getting the fuck smashed out of them during testing. They called the Yanks, and knowingly the Yanks asked the Bongs if the remembered to thaw out the frozen birds before they launched them at their aircraft.
>tldr Bongs ain't bright

>>508530595
The tower was demolished with explosives probably set the night before

>>508528060
Yeah, that's the only way any thinking man with any structural engineering knowledge would see it. It would be a miracle, a fluke of nature to have that building fall straight down, nothing falling to the side, or even toward the center, since the falling debris left most of the exterior walls intact.

>>508530595
I could pursue some of these points further but it would be a waste of time because I've dealt with you before. Your answer to every hole in your narrative is just "the Jews."

>>508530951
>You are the definition of Dunning-Kruger effect

back to red.dit where you belong, fat disgusting söyscum kuck

hmmmm

>>508528060
I just checked. I have 88 9/11 conspiracy videos that begin with "9/11" and an unknown number with different titles. I don't specifically recall that name, but I probably have him here.

>>508528071
You're talking about an easily-dispersed mass of thin metals and people, and their luggage, and maybe a dog or two. Maybe a cat. The fuel is probably the heaviest mass, and though the pressure of liquid can be forceful and overwhelming, it requires focus and volume, something the airplane didn't have.

>>508530595
>in case a plane crashed into it
in case MULTIPLE planes crashed into EITHER of them. 707s, too. Biggest domestic passenger jet made then.

>>508530951
You can't disprove the evidence so you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.

>>508531492
Interdasting
I see an eagle flipping the bird

>>508530707
Why not?

>>508520936 (OP)
you fags didn't even know heat weakens steel
the working class already destroyed your baby shit arguments

>>508520936 (OP)
High Carbon skyscraper steel

>>508531180
Bits and debris hit it, but the towers didn't. They fell into their own footprints. Perfect controlled demolition, and possibly the biggest one ever.

>>508531197
Hahaha

>>508520936 (OP)
Imagine there are people out there who think planes crashing into the 114th floor means the entire skyscraper collapses and becomes rubble

>>508531234

I would imagine years to cut the beams and plant the cutting charges. As gross as it is to say, it is a feat of engineering to have taken those buildings down the way they did.

It is so brazen because people that fab steel, install steel or design steel know this collapse is absolutely impossible to have happened as we saw it.

>>508522513
it's simply pure hubris like that submarine guy had. they want to be the ones who prove everyone wrong. lucky for them their delusion usually don''t take them to the bottom of the ocean in an improperly seasoned sub. but to be fair maybe some of them are right. personally i wouldn't bet my whole life and identity on it but who knows really

and i unironically understand the desire to believe in ghosts and aliens because how fucking cool would that be? i mean aliens aren't even that improbable due to the possibility of hyberadvanced technology and ghosts could operate on spooky rules where of course you won't be able to record them and show it to everyone else because that's part of being haunted

>>508522558
Globist lies. Steam can't melt steel beams.

>>508531234
When Larry Silverstein took possession, he fired the security company that protected it and hired an Israeli one with Mossad connections. There were "work crews" in there around the clock "working" on the internal core superstructure with access to every internal support beam aside from the skin. They absolutely took their time, and this would be potentially the largest controlled demolition in history. Some demolitions expert is pissed that he can't tell anyone that was him - he was the manager on that job.

>>508531991
lol i see it, nice

>>508532300
You don't have to cut the beams. Thermite cuts them easily.

>>508532300
The us federal government definitely has the resources to employ a small crew of qualified and well-educated glowniggers to carry out such an operation, it's more likely than most other explanations like holograms or whatever the fuck schizos think happened.

>>508520936 (OP)
Maybe we should start using birds as building material.

>>508529526
Are you aware that a 737 can't bank at 550 MPH that close to the earth? The speed itself would rip the wings off, just going straight. The air is too dense.

>>508533000
> The plane can't turn
> The plane is filmed turning
It truly is amazing how retarded the average amerimutt is

>>508529526
>going at 550mph
Wrong.

>>508526275
>phone posting
>through the BROWSER
giving the plebs access to the internet was a mistake

>>508530951
The difference between you and us is that we have the information you've not been exposed to. Educate yourself. Go on Odyssee and YouTube and Rumble and look for videos. If you question something, look it up for yourself. Nobody is trying to tell a lie, except the perpetrators. There's no glory in being right, here. It means that we were attacked by our "greatest ally," again, and we killed sand people en masse for it.

>>508520936 (OP)
Don't be a dumbfuck, the very front of the nose is just a plastic cover for the radar array underneath it.

>>508532040
What about the rest of the building that wasn't on fire?
I already know the answer, but I think it's funny to hear you claim it.

>>508533137
You live in a socialist country scum, how many boosters did you take

>>508520936 (OP)
This is well poisoning. The argument is bad but the conclusion is correct. Op is sneaky jew. The official story is the fire not the impact so this is irrelevant and intentionally misleading.

>>508533137
talk to an aeronautical engineer. What you saw isn't necessarily what you think you saw. The planes both lost radio contact that morning for 20-30 minutes. Look it up. They were likely substituted for reinforced military planes with increased structural rigidity and maneuverability, and maybe even a bit more jet fuel, just for effect.
A commercial 737 cannot fly 550 MPH at 200 feet of altitude.

>>508520936 (OP)

>>508533441
The rest of the plane isn't very strong, either. They are engineering marvels. They're thin, light aluminum with a thin, aluminum frame. How they don't rip apart every time they take off or land is amazing.

>>508533669
> Australia is repeatedly found to have objectively more personal freedom than burger land
> This confuses the burger
Time to go pledge another 10% of your GDP to Israel, burgermutt

>>508533669
Nigger stop pretending like we didn't have the same thing happening here. We have the same jewish overlords.

>>508532490
Don't forget who was in the board of that security team, Marvin Bush.
Did you even know there was a Marvin Bush? Funny we never hear about him.
You'd think the anti Bush press would have been all over that.

>>508520936 (OP)
The planes did not bring down the towers according to the narrative, if was the flames, which almost as retarded.

>>508533233
ive been here since the mid 2000s you schwachsinigger

>>508534070
The names that didn't get dropped are astounding. It's also pretty curious that the national defense system was down that morning for military drills. "Hey, general, we're running drills" "Ok, turn off all eastern seaboard national defenses." Doesn't seem rational.

Also, I noticed that when the last 911 thread got traction, the noguns shill who was harassing me and pushing a fudd gun grabber narrative disappeared and hasn't been back...

>>508520936 (OP)
shut up goyim

>>508533137
zoomer chink again

>>508534381
They were facing a deadline. Shit was done sloppy and their blackmailed assets had to clean it up. It was easier back then. I remember our local shock jocks were making fun of Bush and then obviously got a "taking to" and we're really weird quiet and respectful. I also remember listening to Howard Stern live yelling "it's time to unleash israel!" That broadcast is unavailable online it seems.

>>508534575
goyim is plural

>>508535029
>Shit was done sloppy
I'd say that it was executed ALMOST perfectly. They fucked up a lot, but turning off the national defense system so that they could run "drills" on the eastern seaboard is brilliant. Was it necessary? Hell no. I think 9/11 was planned to the day way in advance.

>>508535245
No doubt

>>508533992
>How they don't rip apart every time they take off or land is amazing
Engineering.

Any idiot can build a bridge. It takes a professional engineer to build a bridge that's barely standing.

Here's something else: aside from the dust and fumes from the thermite and the fires, the internal structure was coated in asbestos, so everyone who was downtown that day and breathed dust is in line for mesothelioma.

>>508533486
the whole thing doesn't need to be weakened, moron

>>508536225
I wasn't saying that because I really don't know how, but most people don't know how light these things really are, how little there is between the passengers and 500mph winds at a pressure that would make you lose consciousness.

>>508536639
Oh yeah? Play it out in your little head; if you have, let's say 20 vertical supports, and only half of them are damaged, would the remaining structures offer any resitance to collapsing utterly, or would the cause the building to collapse differently, should it collapse at all. They blamed fire, making building 7 the only steel building in history to fall from fire.

>>508521321
Of course not. Society has fractured across the western world yet still shambles on.

>>508536639
I can tell you've spent your time investing in the narrative. A true believer. Expose yourself to the information that exists. There are hundreds of conspiracy videos covering 9/11. Before you use the word "conspiracy" as a bad word, because that's how you've been trained, remember that they happen all the time. They use it like an insult to deflect the interest of the weak public, like you.

>>508520936 (OP)
>Retarded shit
with a help of some explosives it is not that retarded btw

>>508536842
Apparently there was one in Asia in like 2018. There was some debate over if building materials were to blame. No one provided proof on either side. I forgot, but keep making that claim and they will remind us

>>508534307
so you're telling me you had all this time and yet you ended up like this? there couldn't be a better indicator of a pleb than this level of arrested development

>>508522417
shame, bro

>>508537494
So the proof is no proof at all. I recall one in Asia that burned for something like 96 hours, and didn't fall. Are you thinking of that one?

>>508533826
you can't fake those wings marks,
and why would you even do that if the buildings are going to collapse?

Oh, and let's not forget that one building with the church under it they retro fitted with stronger joints and no one working there noticed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicorp_Center_engineering_crisis

So it's totally possible to alter key structural points on a building without anyone knowing.

>>508533696
I already called attention to this ('it's not about the planes') >>508525730

>>508537796
I honestly don't remember, but if you're making that claim, prepare to defend it because they will use that.
I wouldn't put it past them to engineer the collapse from fire just to deboonk that.

>>508521321
yes

>>508522558
beep beep boop boop!

>>508538024
restate, please
ask differently
it's not clear what you're asking.

>>508520936 (OP)
Il est incontestable – la machination sous-jacente à cet événement s’est avérée sans équivoque le fruit d’une conspiration. Urban Moving Systems porte une responsabilité directe pour l’implantation des charges explosives dans les bâtiments, hélas, affectés. La conséquence, d'un caractère particulièrement glaçant, a précisément réalisé les objectifs de cette organisation furtive : la constitution d’une machine impériale américaine, troublante dans son caractère, et dominée par une figure, désignée sous le nom de Sion, reposant sur sa colonne vertébrale. Exprimer une légère déception face à un résultat aussi profondément troublant et délibérément conçu serait manifestement insuffisant; il s’agit d’une catastrope d’appréciation et d'une insulte flagrante à la raison et à l'ordre établi.

>>508532564

There still had to be a lot of pre-work don't. The thermite was just used for the final cut.

>>508538462
that's not a question
and thermate btw not thermite

NEW THREAD

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>>508536801

>>508536801

>>508536842
>building takes massive damage
>building falls
or
>building becomes stronger, like a bone after breaking
i'm sure you dumbfucks believe in the 2nd option, that the building should get only stronger after taking massive damage lmao
god damn you're dumb

>>508538301
There have been multiple high-rise fires in steel buildings that lasted for days. None of them fell. This isn't some bold claim. It's just reality. The ONLY way any of the three buildings could all fall into their own footprints is due to controlled demolition. Think about it for a minute; the explanation is a once-in a lifetime explanation for all three towers falling. NONE of them tipped into other buildings instead of crashing straight down. The only way for that to happen, especially at free fall speeds, is controlled demolition. This isn't even an extravagant claim. If even one member from any building held on for even a second, the buildings would've tipped. All three buildings became the first steel structures to ever fall due to fire in all history, and all in the same day! What are the odds? I've spent years trying to catch anything I can about this. 88 of my conspiracy videos begin with 9/11. I have no idea how many of them don't. They're put out by engineers and pilots and architects, not scumbags.

>>508538449
Someone needs to animate the afghanis hanging off of the plane as it's flying.

>>508532773

The scary thing is, you don't get this done with just spooks in suits. This is Engineers, contractors, blasting experts, wiring, etc.

To actually plan this and have it hit the ground is a feat beyond imagination.

You have to work in the industry to actually appreciate how outrageous this was. For them to land in the basement and not have some half collapsed skeleton that crashed into the surrounding buildings is crazy. You can't build a model, do a trial run ... it all had to work live in front of the world.

>>508538797
The thermite did it all. It's all that was needed, and yes, they spent months placing charges on every level and wiring it all up to fall when they wanted it to. Mossad did building security. A mossad demolition team undoubtedly spent a lot of time wiring it up under the guise of asbestos removal to the entire inner structure, which is what was being done at the time. They had full access.

>>508538798
Still not a question, and since you brought it up, define the difference between thermate and thermite.

>>508539521
>define the difference
google it plz yourself, thank you