>They're doing the jobs Americans don't want to do!
Let's put it to the test then.
Make a public job listing looking for legal American workers wanting to pick veggies for minimum wage.
I bet you will have hundreds of applicants within a week.
>Nooooo!!!!

Anyway. We all know the real reason is they don't want to pay minimum wage.
How do we fix the immigration crisis? It's easy.
Death penalty to anyone who profits off of slave labor, and use ICE to round up the business owners running the modern day plantations.
When the millions of illegal immigrants can't find work to feed themselves, they will leave the country voluntarily.

or just beat the peasants into submission and continue business as usual

>>508531028
Shut the fuck up you meme flag monkey cunt.

>>508530936 (OP)
Big mouthed /pol/mutts are gonna do that soon. KEK.

>>508530936 (OP)
I would rather not pay more for my fruits

>>508530936 (OP)
The employers are next.
Federal charges.

>>508531126
you know which way we are most likely going to follow bud

>>508531284
>The employers are next.
Not under a Trump presidency

>>508530936 (OP)
I just saw two posting for cherries and apples.
19.50 an hour IF you can fill an entire dyke with cherries or apples within a certain amount of time thats the caveat.
>must have pruning experience
>must have thinning experience
>must have picking experience
etc.

>>508531266
>Tens of millions of non-english speaking browns flooding your country
>I'm just glad I don't have to pay an extra $0.25 on this bag of apples!
get your priorities straight

>>508531641
>IF you can fill an entire dyke with cherries or apples within a certain amount of time thats the caveat.
Is the amount of time realistic? Like if some high school kid trained for a summer just for that task, could they do it?
If not, then it's a bullshit job listing. They don't want people to apply and are asking for impossible qualifications to justify hiring slaves.

>>508532431
let me find it and see I think you need to fill it within an hour or so. I can link the listing

>>508530936 (OP)
>>508531446
>>508531845
>>508532431
160 years after the end of the Civil War and leftist democrats still clamor on behalf of slavery. The funny part is those same leftist cultists claim to support the non-Whites while demanding they remain de facto slaves.
Watch OP try to explain how this isn’t what she’s doing

>>508533779
I agree with you on this, what are you talking about

>>508532431
the website I was on requires logging in and keeps giving me shit about my info being wrong.
this one is similar and same area.
https://seasonaljobs.dol.gov/jobs/H-300-23062-822444

>>508530936 (OP)
>use ICE to round up the business owners running the modern day plantations
Good luck rounding up congressmen' brothers and cousins
>We all know the real reason is they don't want to pay minimum wage.
We got paid above minimum wage but there's no unions and we didn't mind getting squeezed more because we knew it was temporary, real americans won't do the jobs because physically it's not possible for long runs and they most people don't work the entire shift. You cannot get distracted in farm labor.

>>508530936 (OP)
The wage which can be reasonably demanded for a job is conditional to the labor supply available to meet that demand
The demand for agricultural work increases as the supply of labor (artificially inflated today by the government not enforcing the law) decreases

>>508533779
The arguments which Democrats have used to justify structuring their economies off of indentured servants have not changed since 1860
Now they just promise those serf’s the ability for their children to inherit citizenship

>>508533955
That looks like a decent listing. Requirements dont sound impossible to meet.
Too bad we cant see the number of applicants...

>>508534351
NOTE: Neither party will ever target the demand side, which complicit in wide scale crime, because rule of law doesn’t really exist for the donor class

>>508534325
>Good luck rounding up congressmen' brothers and cousins
This is exactly what you would whisper in the fields

>>508534363
I picked apples as a kid., its not hard, its actually nice, outdoors etc. but the mexicans will fuck with you because they want to destroy their bodies working at a retard pace for a few more dollars. thats why the videos shilled here are sped up, to make it look like they're moving REALLY FAST.

>>508531233
We invented the tractor, faggot.
Of course we can farm.

Half the US is fully autonomous except California.

>>508534363
the worksourcewa website linked there has more. but requires you to make an account with your ssn etc.

>>508530936 (OP)
>Make a public job listing looking for legal American workers wanting to pick veggies for minimum wage.
>I bet you will have hundreds of applicants within a week.
and they'll be gone within the week as well.

it's a known fact that nobody who doesn't grow up working in agriculture transitions to work in agriculture. it just doesn't happen at any kind of scale. agriculture fucking sucks, nobody wants to do it, and the only people who do it are the ones who are broken to it early and who never leave.

go and look up the statistics if you want, but nobody ever changes job to GO to agriculture. only to leave.

>>508530936 (OP)
we used to have seasonal browns(sawp) for when they couldnt find workers and im sure you lot have a similar visa program they should be using

>>508534900
Eh. Traditional Whites have been exposed to landscaping as a frequent chore growing up. Your statement may be true to the average city boy, but not with country boys.

>>508530936 (OP)

"Painful and grueling" jobs Americans already willingly do regularly:

>garbagemen
>sewer and sanitation
>construction
>Heavy industry and factory labor
>coal mining/mineral mining
>military manufacturing
>welding
>landscaping

The difference between and American and brownoid from the global south is:
>tap water is drinkable

That alone is enough to make these "people" flood our border.

>>508534900
You must've missed the trend of thousands of city folk evacuating to create new farms and homesteads during covid.

>>508530936 (OP)
Then try and sell your tomatoes for $15/lb lol

Check linkdin within your locality, listings like Agriculture Labor x###+, you'll see only one person applies for those jobs. There have been x750+ openings for two months ago in my area, and I'm sure less than 20 people have applied.

Roll up your sleeves and take back those stolen jobs.

>>508535463
>>508535573
>landscaping chores
>picking cherries for shit pay for 12 hours a day
not the same

>>508530936 (OP)
I was unemployed a long time; I wanted to work anywhere. Applied to every kind of "migrant job," no one ever called.

Do an experiment. Apply with Hispanic names. Watch how fast they reach out.

>>508530936 (OP)
I farm, and you're not getting Americans do pick anything. We even offered better wages and some benefits. They won't do it.
The first time the temps reach 90+ degrees, they're off and never seen again. We would have to pay a huge wage to get them work (and even then they won't last long) and your food would cost 10x more. You think we get rich off farming, no. After paying for seed, fertilizer, water for irrigation, insurance, loan payments ok equipment, maintenance, so on and on, there isn't a lot left over. Not to mention if a crop fails , were completely fucked.
You stupidz fat, lazy, useless fucks shovel the shit we grow in your fat cock holes then bitch about
>Muh slave labor
When you useless pieces of shit won't do the work they do.

>>508535611
>Then try and sell your tomatoes for $15/lb lol
Today, an 8lb bag of 13 oranges from Walmart costs $7.64.
In 1958, a bag of a dozen oranges was $0.76, which when adjusted for inflation is $8.45 in 2025 dollars.
That's less than a dollar difference.

>>508535744
Whites also invented tree shakers, too.

If other nations invested into proper equipment, perhaps you wouldn't need to rely on California and browns for cherries.

The white man already set the tone with agriculture. You're letting corporate jews and Mexicans tell us what were putting on the dinner table.

Not this white man.

>>508535817
Because they don't want you complaining to the department of labor, about things nobody brings up because they don't want to get fired/deported. If you go out to those orchard jobs there are no bathrooms, sinks, soap, and wild animals wandering about, including bears. You'll be around older men who will run you over with a tractor, ATV, or maybe you'll have a stack of bins crush you because Juan sucks at operating forklifts. Go look for work at UPS/FedEx if you are (white and) needing employment short notice.

>>508536321
Yeah, and that 8 lbs of oranges was still mass produced with (practically) slave labor. Try paying chuds minimum wage to pick your oranges and see how much thag same dozen of oranges costs

>>508530936 (OP)
no one voluntarily wants to do farm labor, its monotonous, painful, and has to be done in the sweltering heat.
anyone that has full control over the product of their agriculture labor makes enough food for themselves and maybe a little to bring to market, aka subsistence farming. civilization needs more than subsistence farming and so every civilization has to force people to work the fields.
slavery
serfdom
and the modern version, the pseudo second class citizens that are illegals.
give any illegal the option to work in an air conditioned office and they would, its a job you take when you have no other options. no one will voluntarily work farm labor for a wage that would be profitable.
every civilization is forced with this problem. seeing people's solution here is just as laughable as communists who think they'll be poets after the socialist revolution and someone else will be working hard farm labor on the commune. in the whites only utopia I'll be a based shitposter, some other white will be picking my food on a 100 degree june day.

>>508530936 (OP)
>We all know the real reason is they don't want to pay minimum wage.
If they do then the veggies will be insanely expensive and you'll bitch about the price.

>>508536668
>muh white man
white people do not transition from non-agriculture sectors to agriculture sectors of the economy, no matter the pay or opportunities.

that's what the stats say.

your racist muh feels pseudoscience has no empirical backing and therefore i don't care.

>>508537101
they cost exactly the same. its all subsidized by the government.

>>508537101
Youre missing the point.
In 1958, we had mostly Americans working in the fields and the prices for produce were roughly the same as it is today.
Why weren't the prices for oranges 10x higher in 1958 if they weren't using slave labor?

>>508530936 (OP)
It would be one thing if we had a small underclass of low paid brown servants doing fieldwork, but we don't. A small percentage of them perform labor but growing numbers just show up here, immediately get free lodging, shit out 20 kids and get then they all get free food, healthcare, education, cash stipends, etc etc while contributing absolutely nothing in return. And that's not okay.

>>508530936 (OP)
It's called a fucking machine you turbo jew.

>>508537468
Anywhere thats not a border state is dominated by white labor. The transition argument is also quite fucking retarded. Its as simple as offering a tax credit for state of the art equipment, and beaners become unemployed. Its literally that simple.

>>508530936 (OP)

Farm workers don't get paid minimum wage, they get paid a lot more, even the migrant workers working on farms get paid more than the minimum wage. They get paid more than most workers here on Guam.

Why do lefties undercut local labor in favor of slaves?

>>508538434
>here on Guam
Curious. Does it still show a US flag under that memeflag?
Or something else?

>>508538434

Google says farm employees get paid about $17 an hour and some farms will pay hire even hire wages so that their crops don't rot.

>>508530936 (OP)
this is the job that resident alien green card holders are supposed to be doing.

>>508538664
How would google AI know how much illegal migrant workers get paid?
They get paid under the table....

>>508538549
Not a left/right thing at all, the government could print trillions of dollars and you'd still have politicians and businessmen insistent on $7.25 being a reasonable wage for unskilled goy cattle, even with(out) illegals.

>>508534900
>nobody ever changes job to GO to agriculture
The pay sucks because of too many illegals. The land is too expensive to start your own farm. No one wants to be a migrant worker living in a RV and moving every month or two to follow the harvests. Illegals do it because they can work for a decade then go back home and have a good life.

>>508530936 (OP)
>>508538848

Going to repost this.

Alabama farmer says "if you want less immigrants, stop eating."
https://youtu.be/q4gzps0lm1E

"There's an Hispanic man who makes $100 a day, if you can keep up with him, you can make $100 a day."

"Farmers say that many Americans are not physically fit and simply don't work fast enough."
https://youtu.be/a7q3ofdJRKc

News Journalist: "Why not hire unemployed Americans?"
Farm owners: "They don't want to come out here and work in this... extreme conditions. A hundred plus degree temperatures, dust, hard work."
News Journalist: "What if you paid them more?"
Farm Owner: "It doesn't matter... we pay some of the highest wages for Farm workers in the nation... and they won't come out."

https://youtu.be/MI1pMmjbPr8

>>508538645

No. Same for Puerto Rico. But in both Guam and Puerto Rico, the people have to sign up for that selective draft stuff if the U.S. needs conscription.

>>508537536
it was mexicans back then too
they didn’t just start coming here

>>508532431
>Is the amount of time realistic? Like if some high school kid trained for a summer just for that task, could they do it?
Ruralfag here. Yes. A lot of seasonal work used to be grabbed up by high school kids who were willing to work for minimum wage. Agribusinesses didnt wan't to pay payroll taxes so now they import beaners and pay them less than minimum wage and don't pay taxes.

>>508539328

Anyone can be a fruit picker and do work gathering crops on farms. You get paid more if you know how to work some of the machinery. If you want less illegal immigrants in agriculture, you are going to have to clock in at the farm.

However, there are Americans who actually want to work in the American tech industry and they have the skills for it. But pigeon CEOs like Elon Musk keep firing American tech workers and replacing those American with foreign pajeets from India because pajeets are willing to code and program for lower wages and at longer hours even though their code can sometimes be pretty bad.

>>508539626

Mexicans started working the agricultural jobs in the U.S. starting in World War 2 when most of the male population got drafted to fight in Europe and the Asia-Pacific.

>>508530936 (OP)
They don’t pay minimum wage. They hire them as gig workers that pay by the flat or the bushel, which means, unless you hump ass all day long you aren’t coming close to minimum wage.

Cut off welfare and they will do farm equipment work

>>508539687
>A lot of seasonal work used to be grabbed up by high school kids who were willing to work for minimum wage.
What year did that stop?
My dad picked strawberries in the summer when he was in high school, and said it was a common job for teens. By the time I was in high school (mid-2000), it was already all mexicans and werent looking for americans.

>We would starve if we deported the millions of illegals from the fields of Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and New York

in my grandparents time anyone could show up and start picking crops, and they got paid for how much they picked. Imagine being able to just walk outside and make some money when ever you had some time to kill.
no resumes, no bullshit

>>508539687
>>508532431

You guys are in luck, Florida was working on getting rid of some child labor laws so that high schoolers can work some of the farm jobs the immigrants used to do. Maybe your state can do the same thing and get high school kids doing the farm jobs if the immigrants, illegal and legal, don't want to do them.

>>508531284
>The employers are next.
>Federal charges.
No they're not. The very first person whose sentence Trump commuted back in 2017 was some meatpacker who was doing time for hiring illegals and evading taxes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholom_Rubashkin#Commutation

>>508540033
people arent on welfare because they dont want jobs, they are on welfare because they cant find jobs (or the jobs are so shit they still qualify for welfare).
cut welfare and use it to make a government agency that guarantees citizens jobs if they want one.

>>508539626
They did actually in the late 50s California was 94% white

>>508530936 (OP)
Devote all land to livestock and stop growing veggies for humans. No one wants turnips or peas.

>>508540195
I actually did this, you could take the whole family. they paid you cash for the day. was great if you were short on money.

>>508540127
All the places with no farms. Lol

>>508540195

There are some farms in San Diego, California where you pay the farmers to pick strawberries. Went with some relatives to do just that, paid money to pick strawberries. They gave us a bucket and we could pick enough strawberries to fill the bucket. They even had those port-o-potties or portable toilet shack things at the edges of the farm field with running water to wash your hands.

Has anyone thought to let illegals have to do military service in order to stay in the country?

Wouldn't that help the military enlistment?

>>508540020
$35 for a full bin, 800lbs of apples/pears/tomatoes/..., a bad bin full of bruised fruit gets less because they turn it into juice and maybe you get fired. Nobody uses robots because they bruise/crush everything, any retard will assume shaking a tree and think picking up the stuff on the ground is how it should be done, but orchard operators don't want their fruit/trees damaged because they take years to grow back, and picky shoppers won't buy bruised items from the produce section.

>>508540730

Trump is back in office, military recruitment has gone back up since Biden and the Democrats are out of power.

I want to be able to work myself and not have a cursed little shit pencil pushing politcal shithead with a vendetta trying to get me fired.

You know who you are, damn your soul to hell.

>>508540730
No. You're not staying you brown faggot

>>508540730
The roman military fell apart because they enlisted too many foreigners.

They dont want food prices to go up because that will make normies panic.

>>508531641
>must have pruning experience
>must have thinning experience
>must have picking experience
Kek 4 year degree required to pick fruit. American farmers are the scum of the earth.

>>508534363
>That looks like a decent listing. Requirements dont sound impossible to meet.
>Too bad we cant see the number of applicants...
Plot twist, the HR roasties have already discarded any applications from legitimate SSNs.

>>508541158
"What could possibly go wrong?" they asked.

>>508540694
Used to do that in Missouri with apples. We'd fill up a few buckets with apples for the orchard, then we'd take our bucket of apples and make pies and applesauce and whatever else we wanted.

We pretty much gave traded them labor for a discount on freshly picked apples straight off the farm. Good memories and great apples.

Who the fuck says we don't want these jobs. we can literally make robots that do this shit. these subhuman creatures multiply like rabbits yet don't understand how a society works. they are pure cancer to the human race. they must not be allowed to breed

>>508541266
the kicker - if you do manage to get hired the mexicans will do anything they can to get you fired because you're not mexican.

>>508541019
I just want to remind you, I know who you are.

>>508538664
Are you retards seriously using google AI as evidence now? That shit says there's no wind when the entire state has a dust storm

>>508530936 (OP)
Fun fact: by (California) law those pickers make $20 an hour.
How much do you make?
For reference min wage in cali walli is $16 something.

None of this is true in Georgia, but the big farms help house and support the laborers.

>>508540020
California law says $20 an hour

>>508530936 (OP)
Look up "headstart for migrant and seasonal workers" for your state. If you're offering:
Transportation for your kids to and from school (with a tutor)
Clothes for your kids
Tutors for your kid
Food for your kids (separate from EBT)
Household appliances
Job coordination
Health-care benefits
Special loans for your ethnicity to start small business
EBT
Credit building programs

And that's just what I can remember. They're also fast tracked through those programs and there is evidence that DHS issues them SSN's for benefits they wouldn't otherwise qualify for, too. Don't pretend like the only thing the illegals get is paid under the table.

>>508544244
>California law says $20 an hour
And federal law says it's illegal to hire them.
Do you really think people who employ illegals care about the law?
Who's going to report them? Not the illegal immigrants.