Do retards really believe these fictional books are real? Why?

Neither Judaism nor Islam can reconcile God's justice with His mercy.

Without Jesus Christ, one must be ignored for the other.

>>508516895
Trump exposed as a Israeli-first traitor that sold out to zionist billionaire Jews-112

How then can God be both merciful *and* just?

Consider a man who stands before a judge after having committed a crime.
That man's crime is not made directly against that judge personally, but against the laws of their country and society.
If the judge forgives the man and pardons him, then retribution and justice have been ignored for the sake of mercy.

However, when a man sins, he has committed crime against God directly and personally.
This is because he has broken the Law of God, which is itself an extension of God's Will.

To break God's Law is to directly transgress against the very essence of the Personhood of God Himself.
Fortunately for us, since we have transgressed directly against God, He has the Authority and Right to forgive us.

Then for Him, for Retribution to take place, *He willingly suffered* the penalties due to us for our sins for the express purpose that Justice could be done for the allowance of His Mercy through forgiveness, so that He may be further Glorified by His Love for us.

But, if a person decides to reject that payment of Justice and Mercy, when they stand before the Judgement Seat of God, Divine Retribution must fall upon that person's head for their transgressions, that God's Justice may be satisfied.

How can The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit be three separate persons but all One God?

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If you have three persons who are all called God, then you would have to apply every attribute of God to all three persons just as they are described in the Bible.

They would all have to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, the creator, the sustainer, perfectly righteous, perfectly just, loving, merciful, truthful, faithful, unchanging, eternal, infinite, Holy, The Most High.

Only the first 3 attributes listed here are needed to understand the Triunity of God.
Omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.

A question that has found difficulty being answered since the beginning of Christianity is this, "How can The Father, Jesus The Son, and The Holy Spirit all be God if there is only One God?"

On the surface of this question it would seem to be an impossibility according to logic that we understand.
How can three be one?

If you apply the attribute of omnipotence to all three persons, then you may realize that a paradox could occur.
Hypothetically, imagine a scenario in which two of these omnipotent persons took an action against each other.
Whose will would prevail?
If they were both truly omnipotent, then it must be that both would prevail, but that would be an impossibility.
It would, at this point, seem that two or more omnipotent persons that have distinct wills could not exist at the same time.

However, a solution to this paradox is formed once you begin to apply the rest of the attributes of God to these persons.

If all three persons are omniscient, then they would all be wisdom itself, and knowledge itself.
They would, all three, have perfect understanding of all things, including the will of each other.
Having perfect knowledge, the decisions and actions of all three would be in perfect agreement in all ways.
Therefore, the paradox of omnipotence would never occur.
In fact, it is the paradox of omnipotence that becomes the impossibility.

>>508539529
Next, look at the attribute of omnipresence.
This answers the question that is the most difficult to reconcile with our logic.
How can three be one?

This must be considered carefully and honestly, but the solution is both beautiful and simple.
If these three persons are all omnipresent, then that would mean that all three of them exist perfectly and entirely within each other in every place and in every way.
They would seemingly be separate to us, but one in truth.

They all three occupy, within each other, The Most High place, that is, the Throne of God, in perfect unity.

The Father exists perfectly and entirely within both the Son and The Spirit.
The Son exists perfectly and entirely within both the Spirit and The Father.
The Spirit exists perfectly and entirely within both the Father and The Son.

Same reason people believe government and politics and news.

People are dumb AF yo.

>>508539462
>>508539483
>>508539529
>>508539548
shut the fuck up bot @MODS

>>508539367 (OP)
>Do retards
Answered your own ? there, bud

Who is it that is naked?
Is it he who is without clothes?

Nay, it is he who is exposed to the Wrath of God.
Those who are sheltered by the Righteousness of Christ JESUS are they who are clothed.

https://youtu.be/FYgc_dIuhYo

>>508539367 (OP)
>Why?

most people just accept what they're told. if you do the research though they line up the same way all other historical accounts do however. different perspectives, on reality.

the entirety of mythology is 'chosen europeans give up psychic powers to jews who will abuse them'

even the jewish mythology is just about how they stole gods blessing from white people.

As a lightbulb cannot be illuminated without electricity, nor a candle produce light without a flame, we cannot expel either the darkness that surrounds us, or within, without the Gospel of Jesus Christ setting our hearts and minds alight with Truth.

We seem to have forgotten what GOD means.

A soldier continues fighting even when he has lost sight of the banner.

A good soldier never loses sight.

Read Isaiah 53.

You who call yourself a Jew,
Turn your ear and hear anew!

You made it a Book of Abraham;
But, is it not of I AM THAT I AM?

For a line you look;
you track and trace,
instead of seeking out HIS FACE!

Oh, you lost! You house of sheep!
Hear ye not The Shepherd's Bleat?

Search The Texts to find HIS NAME
for if you don't you hold the blame.

THE KING has come!
CHRIST IS THE WAY!

Who do you choose to serve this day?

---

You speak your prayer to rock and fodder.
The stones have now become your father.

Do you trust your words and war will
move those blocks which you adore?

Oh, if Elijah saw you now,
He'd laugh; cry; disavow.

---

Hear ye; Ye hypocrites!

Stop your crying!
Stop your fits!

Your wayward way is to:
The Pit.

That western wall,
The one you kiss;

That place you mourn, grovel, and hiss;

Is that your GOD, or is I AM THAT I AM?

>>508541033

>>508540960
>omnipotent so he could eliminate evil anytime he wants
<he just doesn't do it
:>)

>>508541091

>>508541102
>problem of evil
If it is even possible that God has a morally sufficient reason for the allowance of evil, the the problem of evil dissolves.

>>508539367 (OP)
I'm the smartest person with the highest IQ and has the whitest skin, and I believe in God. You are a shitskin. Why should anyone listen to you?

>>508539367 (OP)
They are real books.

Just real works of fiction to help goat fuckers live better lives. Now its for people who fuck their cousins or people trying to manipulate cousin fuckers.

>>508541258
You are brown.

>>508539462
>pickme
How does Christianity reconcile the existence of an eternal Hell with God's justice and mercy?

>>508540995
His name is the word of god, somehow.

>>508541369
Why are you afraid of eternal Hell?

>>508541369
Sin against an eternal God demands eternal retribution.
Fortunately He paid that price for us, so long as we do not reject Jesus Christ.

>>508541542
What price?

>>508541797
The wages of sin, though He was sinless.

>>508541505
>Why are you afraid of eternal Hell?
Where did I say that? Hell doesn't exist, but even if it did, I wouldn't fear it, because the person who wakes up in Hell won't be me because I would have already died. I feel terrible for the guy who does end up there though, and others.

Let's say somehow it really is me in Hell there, it won't be for that long. In order for it to be me in a continuous fashion, change me happen to me. If change happens to me, then over time I become someone else.

Regardless, the idea of Hell is like the winning submission to most abhorrent concept competition.

>>508541937
Hell does exist, you will feel pain before you die, to get the example of it.

>>508541542
>Sin against an eternal God demands eternal retribution.
I can't infinitely sin against God though, so why is the punishment infinite?

>>508539367 (OP)
one of them is real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

>>508541369

Hell is merciful and fair because all suffering is relative.
An accountant in a poor country where everyone else makes bricks 12 hours a day to eat will feel blessed to make spreadsheats for 8 hours a day.
An accountant in a rich country where everyone else lives off of passive income from trust funds while he alone must make make spreadsheats for 8 hours a day to eat will feel suffering.
The kingdom of heaven is that rich country, it need to be surrounded by an even larger poor country of eternal suffering for the inhabitants to feel the relative eternal pleasure, less they get bored and complain.

>>508539367 (OP)
This thread is not politics.

>>508539367 (OP)
retards do and because they get societal benefits of being in a cult.

Take away their benefits and they have no reasons to hold onto the illusions

>>508542437
Hahaha, nice one leaf.

>>508542358
But you do.

Every sin is an infinite infraction against God.
Just because your sin is buried in the past, it doesn't go away.

If you were to stand in God's presence forever, then that would be God allowing sin in His presence forever, as you are fallen and stained.

That is why it is *crucial* that you are covered by JESUS' righteousness, as *only* perfect righteousness can be in God's presence.
When a person believes on Christ, Christ's righteousness is imputed to that person, and they are treated as right with God.

>>508541182
I didn't say I don't believe in god I said religion is fake. Obviously something created us but we can't just make up bullshit stories like Jesus and Mohammed because they suit us.

>>508541861
So because we all sin, you are admitting you deserve to burn in hell for eternity? Regardless if you found a get-out-of-jail-free pass, you acknowledge that all humans (including those who die at birth to 2 months old) deserve to burn in hell for eternity, correct?

Yeah, they're real in the same sense The Lord of the Rings is a real book. You can pay real money to get real chunks of dead trees with real ink on 'em that got those titles on their cover.

>>508539367 (OP)
Better men than you have believed in God.

>>508542861
>So because we all sin, you are admitting you deserve to burn in hell for eternity?
Yes, I fully admit that I am deserving of condemnation, as are you.

I also fully admit that I am not worthy of God's mercy, nor are you.

>>508542984
True, generally worse though on average.

>>508539367 (OP)
>2025
>believing anything
Bang-up job, "commies"

>>508542759
I will have to contemplate the possibility that I have infinite power to defy God for which he cannot overcome without my consent. Intoxicating.

>>508539462
Jesus adventures are like jumping in halfway the desert quadrilogy

>>508543258
Welcome to having freewill, anon.

Of course God isn't going to force you to believe in Him, but that doesn't mean you'll escape judgement.

>>508543036
HAHAHAH
>,as are you.
You had to tag that on, even though I was asking about all humans. And of course I noticed how you ducked the children question. You think jesus will admire your bravery in this moment when he's deciding if you get into heaven?

>>508543329
No worries.

you are the retard racist piece of shit, the jews are our big brothers, jesus is love btw

>>508543329
How can god and free will both exist?
If he created everything and set everything in motion then it is just cause and effect. You don't really have a choice in anything like falling dominoes.

>>508539367 (OP)
>Why?
Most religious people were indoctrinated as children. Belief systems are not inherently rational and are generally difficult to change as they are close to people's identity. Anyone here that went through a dramatic red pilling understands this as it can be pretty 'uncomfortabie.' We all have beliefs. That is how people make sense of the world. Bashing on believers isn't going to help. Info on the reality of how those religions got started is available these days... well, at least in the west. Anyone curious about some of the absurdities in those books can look them up. They are not true, but there is interesting mythology and historical background to why those fictions were written.

>>508539367 (OP)
Because they’re retarded

>>508543459
>the children question
All have fallen short.

One thing is certain; God is good.
There is not one person who will find themselves in hell that does not deserve it.

>>508543936
I'm smarter than you you random little shit.

>>508539367 (OP)
They were born into it, plus death is scary, it's not that deep.

>>508544000
>All have fallen short.
Even those who die during childbirth. Ok, pal. But I supposed I shouldn't be surprised you gave that answer.
>Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
Fucking jewish psychopathy man. Thank goodness I don't trust jews and I don't believe in jewish fariytales.

>>508544524
You never wanted answers; only to try a gotcha, as I suspected from the very start.

The truth is The Bible isn't explicit on what age a person becomes responsible for believing in Christ.

But know this; God is good and knows the heart and soul of every person.
Those who love God and want to know Him, will find Him and be saved.

>>508544889
You're a mutt

>>508539367 (OP)
the world needs a replacement for these desert shitskins manuals and it's not what the WEF globalists preach

>>508543852
God's foreknowledge does not invalidate freewill.

Just because God knows what choice you will make, does not mean that God forced it at creation.

From a deterministic perspective, it would seem that everything that has happened to us within our lives is what causes us to make our choices, therefore we are not free.

But consider consciousness.
We would not be conscious if we did not have freewill. Conscious awareness itself guarantees we have the ability to choose.

>>508539367 (OP)
>Why?
They grew up being told they were real or they're mentally unwell.

>>508546025
No, no it does not, how the fuck does it guarantee it?
Fuck you blabbering?

>>508541170
Children must suffer and die because... don't question god's morality, fedora lord

>>508539367 (OP)
The books themselves are real their contents are fictitious.

>>508546350
We would not be conscious if we were not aware of the choices we could make to navigate life.

>>508546461
Look, a man who can judge God.

>>508546512
Consciousness is not limited to choices

>>508546697
I never said it was; only that it is a proof of our freewill.

>>508539462
How do you explain Paul's epistles?

I believe in Jesus Christ, but I have this deep-seated feeling that Paul was a false prophet. Jesus explicitly warns his followers of false prophets who might claim to "see Him in the wilderness" and to disregard them. Paul also revokes a lot of the original laws when Jesus Himself says, ""For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot, not one tittle, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." So, what authority does Paul have to add or change laws?

>>508546461
>Has real fucking ability to help suffering children whenever he wants
>Doesnt do so yet gets upset at a God he doesnt even believe is real for not helping children suffering
So if God isnt righteous for not helping children then what are you?
>B-but
No excuses you could literally help children any time you want yet you choose not to spend your wealth and or time running an orphanage. Youre a hypocrite who uses the atheism excuse to justify your base behavior and act like an animal. Keep coveting money and fearing, thatll get you far.

>>508539367 (OP)
This is what real people believe

>>508539367 (OP)
>Why?
Because the good lord sent Jesus Christ.

>>508547072
I personally believe that they were divinely inspired.

What specifically do you have a problem with?

>>508539367 (OP)
social pressures

>>508547363
A few things.

I already mentioned that Jesus Christ warned His disciples of people who might claim to see Him in the wilderness after he returned to heaven. However, Paul claims to have seen Jesus in the wilderness on his way to Damascus.

Paul talks about being taken to the third heaven, the third heaven is nowhere to be found elsewhere in the Bible. The only other religious figure I can think of who claims to have gone to the third heaven is Muhammed.

Paul, quoted in Romans 6:14, says, “For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.”

My last example is the primary reason I take issue with Paul. Jesus said the Law is eternal and do not remove an iota from it. Jesus explicitly preached against lawlessness, saying, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness."

>>508548147
What then did Christ mean by saying, "It is finished."?

Also, how do you explain Acts 10:13-15?

>And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
>But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
>And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Couldn't this indicate that all was fulfilled in Christ's crucifixion?

>>508548147
>Jesus Christ warned His disciples of people who might claim to see Him in the wilderness
Not exactly.
Jesus said to 'Go not forth', as in, do go to see any person claiming to be Christ.

That isn't what happened with Paul.
He wasn't going around claiming that Jesus Christ was in a desert place and for people to come see.

>>508548503
Then why would Jesus warn his disciples of people claiming to encounter Him after his ascension? Jesus says that he is sending the Holy Spirit to comfort and guide them. If that were so, what need would He have to return to people in visions or messages?

At what point is claiming to see or speak with Jesus considered acceptable?

>>508549096
Jesus warned of people claiming that Christ had returned and against people claiming to be Christ.
Paul did neither. He had an encounter with The Lord, but he never was claiming that Christ had returned to reign.

>>508548503
Regarding Jesus's resurrection

Matthew 28:7
>And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there ye shall see him
As they walk back to tell the disciples this, they meet Jesus on the road, who says.
Matthew 28:10
>go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me
Matthew 28:16
>Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jsus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshiped him: but some doubted.

Luke 24:33
>returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together
Luke 24:36
>and as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them
Jesus speaks to them and gives them instructions
Luke 24:49
>Tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high
>And he led them out as far as Bethany....while he blessed them he was parted from them and carried up into heaven.
>They worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy, and were continually in the temple

In one of these accounts, Jesus meets them in Galilee. In the other, he meets them in Jerusalem, In fact he instructs them not to leave Jerusalem and then ascends to heaven.
How can these both be true?

>>508549480
Jesus is God, is how.

Think you not that God can appear wherever He chooses to?

>>508539367 (OP)
Do albanians not have books? Book are real!

>>508539367 (OP)
I like the stories and the lengths of human imagination shown in them.
I don't give a shit about gods tho.

>>508539367 (OP)
I believe with that the KJV Bible is the inspired word of God

>>508549480
Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Does the scripture state that these two events happened at the same time?

>>508549480
>>508549570
>>508549608
>/pol/cucks hate Jews and Israel but unironically worship a jew from Israel

LMAO!!!!!!

>>508549570
In one case, he meets them in Galilee, and then ascends to heaven. The disciples go outward from there.

In the other case he meets them in Jerusalem, and then retraces his steps from where he entered the city to Bethany (suburb of Jerusalem). Then he ascends to heaven, and tells them to return to Jerusalem and pray until they get the holy spirit. Then go outward from there.


In the broader context, Matthew and Mark are writing for a jewish audience, trying to convert jews to christianity. By bringing Jesus back to Galilee, they are setting up Christianity to be a local religion for the Galileans.
Luke however is writing for a gentile audience, trying to convert gentiles. In his account, Jesus goes to Jersalem, which is a city ruled by the Romans. Then the disciples go out from there, presumably to Rome and the gentile lands. He is establishing christianity as a religion for gentiles.

The two authors each have their own intent, and so they each twist facts to match that intent.

>>508539367 (OP)
Listen, you gay, little fucking nigger. The Holy Bible, the 2nd Testament is the only best thing you'll ever find in this Universe. Do not neglect it.

It.

>>508549934
Where does it say in Matthew that He ascended at that time?

>>508550150
It doesn't but it does in Mark.

Mark 16:7
>tell his disciple and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him.
Mark 16:14
>Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat to eat meat
Mark 16:19
>So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven

I love how many Christ Posters there are on this forum now, not too many but just enough to piss them off and kill Satan in this realm. Keep it up

>>508539367 (OP)
CHRIST IS KING. YOU LL ALL BE MURDERED IN
THE EYES OF THE LORD.

Silverstein 14:48
>Fuck goy, I'm chosen by G_d, and I love shekel. So give me your money, even though it won't save you filthy goyim from hell lmao. You retarded goyim cattle.

>>508550150
The argument that Jesus ascended in Matthew 28, and that this contradicts another account is disproven by reading the remainder of Matthew 28. Jesus hadn't ascended yet.

>>508551472
>>508551056
christcucks

>>508550639
But that is not Matthew.

>Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
-Mark 16:14
This is a different meeting that what is in Matthew as they are eating in a room, not on a mountain.

>>508539367 (OP)
Literally? Yes.
Metaphorically? No.

>>508539367 (OP)
>they're fictional, goy!

if they were

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>>508551487
You have to kill China. I challenge you to a match with the Republic of China! China agrees.

>>508539367 (OP)
It's not about what's "real" it's about what the books contain. Find me a better book than the Bible, I dare you.

>>508539367 (OP)
>trying to sneak the book of m*rmon in with the big boy religious texts

>>508539367 (OP)
Yes they do, they are groomed into believing it from birth, but once you figure out how silly it is most people turn away.

>>508552108
Take this Brother:
https://youtu.be/XBJM8sSPTLU?si=4NUe6RagEhnFfARh

>>508542759
> Every sin is an infinite infraction against God.
>Just because your sin is buried in the past, it doesn't go away.

God’s infiniteness works the opposite way you think it does. Human sin is infinitely inconsequential to an infinite God. Human sin is offensive to humans because humans are vulnerable and capable of being harmed. God exists in a state of infinitely having no reason to demand retribution for your “sin against God” which is a totally arrogant concept that could only exist in the minds of self-important mortals like yourself.

>Abrahamic book thread
>ctrl f "talmud"
>0 results
either scripted bot thread or /pol/ is actually done

>>508539367 (OP)
>fictional books
Labelling them as "fictional books" does not magically transform them into fictional books, but it does define you as a human operating at a subhuman level, that is, denying that you have an immortal soul.

In any case, you will find out when you die.

>>508541369
It's a made up doctrine by Augustine, the Lord will simply annihilate the people not saved. No eternal suffering necessary.

>>508553504
Absolutely astounding.

I knew the KJV was the true Word for the scriptural differences and the origin, but with this, there can be no doubt that the KJV is divinely inspired.

>>508539462
I choose to ignore both of them!

Yahwistic brain worms. It is extremely dualistic, anthrocentric slop that does not stand up to metaphysical scrutiny.

>>508543258
Why are you working within his dualistic slop

>>508539367 (OP)
That's some low quality toilet paper you have there OP, better off burning those fairytale books.

>>508539462
>jew book schizobabble character
fuck off jew worshipper.

>>508542071
>muh jew book schizobabble punishment place
Lets be fucking honest, if hell is real you'll be going there, because your own rabbi yeshua ben yosef told you niggers not to force your ideogy on others, and told you goyim don't go to heaven because salvation is for the jews.

And yet here you shills are, trying to push your jew worship schizobabble books on people who don't fucking want your slop.

They said so so we have to believe them

>>508545210
>shitskin jew/spaniard rapebaby
>calling anyone else a mutt
AHHHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAAA whew lad

>>508539367 (OP)

>>508555363
>your own rabbi yeshua ben yosef told you niggers not to force your ideogy on others

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
-Mark 16:15-16

>>508555501
>intentionally forgetting the very next quote where he tells you to pick up your sandals and fuck off if your message wasn't welcome.

Like clockwork, you fucking niggers pick and choose whatever gospel you can to maximize your niggardry and pushing jew worship.

>>508554285
>jew worship schizobabble
Look we get it, christcucks are fucking retards, stop proving us right and fuck off already.

>>508555630
Sorry, that was Matthew 28:20, not mark.

>>508555630
>tells you to pick up your sandals and fuck off if your message wasn't welcome
You aren't the only person on /pol/.

>>508555814
I don't care, it's ALL made up jewish schizobabble meant to weaken you and make you subservient to jews, and it worked. You're sitting here, regurgitating made up jewish schizobabble without even a second of critical thought.

>>508539367 (OP)

imagine actually being an atheist.

>>508555884
Don't care, didn't ask, pick up.your sandles and fuck off you stupid jew worshipping nigger, jews and jew worshippers are NOT welcome here.

>>508556030
>jew worshipper trots out tired old strawmen because he doesn't have the intellectual capacity for critical thought about his jew schizobabble book
many such cases.

>>508556039
>But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

>>508539367 (OP)
>doesn't have Dune

Ngmi

>>508556108
>more jewbook schizobabble

>>508556204
>schizobabble

>>508539462
Gods mercy is paradise, his forgiveness is concealing your sins when you repent his justice is the effects caused against you by your own hands. The dumbest thing Christian’s view is “god died for our sins” that is neither justice nor mercy. It’s a cop out

>>508539483
Imagine genuinely believing this retarded shit.
Couldn't be me. Gods aren't real. None of them. Not even yours. You idiotic niggerfaggot.

>>508556516
see
>>508556258

>>508556258
Yes, schizobabble. your entire religion from thenground up was made by jews, for jews, to serve the jewish god, who jesus preached doesn't offer salvation for non jews.

You pray to and worship a dead rabbi who got crucified for getting caught molesting a child in a park, you pray to and worship a jewish god who hates you more than any jew who would stray, and you believe in their schizophrenic fairytales.

>inb4 schizobabble cope pretending the jews aren't the jews because they called themselves something else in the biblical era, or because other schizocopes about "mistranslations"

>>508556577

>>508556855
>more jewbook schizobabble

>>508555727
>>jew worship schizobabble
>Labelling them as "Jew worship" or "schizobabble" or "phsychobabble" does not magically transform them into "Jew worship" or "schizobabble" or "phsychobabble" , but it does define you as a human operating at a subhuman level, that is, denying that you have an immortal soul.

God is not Jewish, you peanut brain. For God to be God, if you can conceptualise (the normal faculty of a human) He is beyond all races.

It is a separate point that the Jews have a way to worship that God, the Muslims have another way to worship that God, the Polynesians have thir way too worship that God. But that does not make God Jewish or Muslim or Polynesian.

Your intellect is so small, you cannot even conceptualise anything beyond what you believe (dare iss no gawd, duh), but somehow people who are not so deformed are "retarded".

In any case, you will find out when you die.

>>508557991
>more schizobabble and pilpul pretending the god made up by jews isn't jewish
You niggers even argue and lie like your jewish masters, pick up your sandals and fuck off

>>508542759
>Every sin is an infinite infraction against God.
It's not though, a man who curses God under his breath isn't nearly as bad as a man who murders another man, they are finite and somewhat measurable.

>>508558237
The wages of sin is death.

>>508556204
>quotes Bible and Quran
Therefore you believe it
You are too stupid to understand the logic in what you are doing. If you genuinely did not believe it, you would not quote it.
But you quote it, proving that you believe it, and then you negate it. You can only negate a positive, you dumbass.

>>508558318
No it isn't, that is a completely antihuman philosophy and also doesn't make sense. A blasphemer will likely see not death yet a murderer will, the wages are not the same at all and this is a false equivalence.

>>508539367 (OP)

>meme flag
>flame thread
goes in all field

>>508558355
>now he's lashing out like a called out jew
lmao you dumb fucking niggers always manage to prove us right about you
>a whole bunch kf jewish semantics, pilpul, and schizobabbling
Yeah, sure littlehat, sure.

>>508558460
God is Holy.
We are stained by sin.

Therefore, God will not allow us in His presence.
If we are covered by the righteousness of Jesus, we are reconciled and have eternal life.

If we are not, then we must be eternally separated from God.
An eternal death.

>>508558355
also
>if you quote our book to prove us wrong that means we win
Holy fucking brainlet cope LMAO

>>508547218
zaros did nothing wrong, zamorak fucked it up for everyone with his daddy issues.

>>508558355
>If you genuinely did not believe it, you would not quote it
That's a completely retarded proposition. Nobody ever quoted from the Lord of the Rings unless they believed it was a factual record of historical events?
>you can only negate a positive, you dumbass
At this point it actually makes more sense to just accept the dead internet and chat with the bots rather than to engage with this type of utter zoomer brainrot.

>>508539367 (OP)

because it s convenient.

that said social media bubbles are even more convenient and religion is just a small part of those

>>508558568
Satan regularly flies up to heaven to have conversations with jewgod in your bible lol. Jewbook fails internal logic and contains blatant errors it is a fraud.

Fuck off

>>508558568
>God is Holy.
>We are stained by sin.

>Therefore, God will not allow us in His presence.
How can this be? God is EVERYTHING because he is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. He is both Blessed and Damned, both Holy and Satanic, both Good and Evil, for he is everything. For God to reject all sinners is for him to reject his own creation and an extension of himself, and for that to be the case he is not merciful or just and thus violates the virtues he sets out for us, ergo God is not Holy, it is contradictory. For God to be Holy and merciful, he must treat sin mercifully, and punishing a finite crime with infinite pain is not merciful or just. What the Jehovah Witness' believe, that the soul is just destroyed if you are not entered into the Kingdom of Heaven, makes far more sense than this concept of eternal suffering.

>>508539462
"God's justice" is a psychopathic pr*t*st*nt fantasy

>>508558131
Why are you so scared ?
We can live and let sub-normal freaks like you live
Why can't you let the Word, or people who believe something other than what you believe, live
Why do you have to erase it from your sight ?

Because the truth scares the beejeezus out of you.

I don't believe the Quran, but I don't have to kill them or tell them to fuck off. Their beliefs do not threaten my beliefs.

In any case, you will find out when you die.

>>508558902
>Satan regularly flies up to heaven

>And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
-Luke 10:18
>How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground
-Isaiah 14-12

>>508559050
>now he's trying to strawman and gaslight fear
lol. LMAO even. You really aren't in a position to call anyone else a retard when all you can do is schizobabble and verbally shit your pants.

>>508558751
>>If you genuinely did not believe it, you would not quote it
>Nobody ever quoted from the Lord of the Rings unless they believed it was a factual record of historical events?
That is a Straw Man, you disgusting liar. You made up an analogy and then you destroyed it: congratulations, you destroyed your own creation.
My declaration remains untouched.

>>you can only negate a positive, you dumbass
>At this point it actually makes more sense to just accept the dead internet and chat with the bots rather than to engage with this type of utter zoomer brainrot.
What I stated is formal Logic, it is not my opinion. You prove that you cannot understand it. Ok. And you descend into /ad hominem/, proving additionally that you have no logical argument.

Thanks.

>>508558937
>God is EVERYTHING
>an extension of himself
You are not divine, nor are you a part of God.

You are a creature, made by God, not made of God.

>>508558355
>You quoted our book therefore you believe it.
What a fucking retarded argument. If I quote shit about the holocaust, does that mean I believe the holocaust happened? Fuck no.

>>508558937
>God is EVERYTHING because he is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. He is both Blessed and Damned, both Holy and Satanic, both Good and Evil, for he is everything
No. That is not what omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient means.
A thing (let alone God) cannot be both Good and Evil, you are demented.
What you are stating is Dualism. Evil is not the opposite of Good, it is not equal to Good but opposite. Evil is the absence of Good. As is, darkness is the absence of light, not the opposite of light, there is no such thing as "dark light".

>>508559292
ad hominem

>In any case, you will find out when you die.

>>508560113
It's not an adhom when you literally did what I called you out for you dumb fucking nigger LMAO

>>508539483
Gods little book of rules and regulations.
Lol it's so comical, "I made you cunts and heres your book of little rules to follow."

>>508558568
>If we are covered by the righteousness of Jesus
Who knew "God" could be tricked so easily ie by vicarious atonement via scapegoat human sacrifice and blood magick voodoo
Primitive semitic nigger nonsense

>>508539462
Your kike prophets and mashiachs are irrelevant and yhwh isn't God.

>>508550103
>Listen, you gay, little fucking nigger.
He says as he sucks off a jew.

>>508539483
I owe money to my landlord
This angers my landlord who demands recompense that I am unable to provide
So the landlord visits me with his son, stabs his son to death and then declares my debt paid
But I better believe this in perpetuity of he will torture me forever
Now feral mass murdering, child raping niggers etc have all their debts cleared if they accept this and will be welcomed to the landlord's mansion party
Meanwhile virtuous people who question it are consigned to the aforementioned moloch pits
Somehow this insane jewish filth is supposed to be rational and moral

>>508556577
The term shizo comes from psychiatry and that’s jewish

>>508539367 (OP)
cause mommy and daddy told them so

>>508560900

>>508539367 (OP)
i bet mary had huggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee knockers

>>508539367 (OP)
>Kitáb-i-Aqdas
The fuck is this?
>Iranian globohomo religion
I guess you learn something new everyday huh.

>>508539367 (OP)
men are desperately hoping through they can make women submissive again through abrahamic religions

>>508539367 (OP)
honestly man, i dont know. if you believe in no God, what do you gain from it? it is a risk no? no advantage to it except mental clarity. i don't like to believe in man made stories, i am more of a protestant because at least i feel something when i believe in Jesus. there is something there, i feel protected.

>>508559933
When you do not understand something, it is better to ask a question. But if you argue against what you do not understand, you prove yourself an idiot, all on your own.
>You quoted our book therefore you believe it.
I did not say quite that, I said something else, in a full context.
>If I quote shit about the holocaust, does that mean I believe the holocaust happened? Fuck no.
Correct. But that is not an equivalent analogy, because both the Jew promoting the holocaust and you know the story to be false, and if you quote it, you are not quoting it as true, you are quoting it as false.
But in:
>>508556204
the niggah quotes the Bible as true:
"After he started hearing voices, Abe cut up his genitals and tried to murder his child"
and then he says it "sounds crazy". In order to say that it is crazy or wrong or false, his premise is that what he says the Bible says, is true.
If he genuinely believes the Bible is false, he would not quote from it or paraphrase it.

(his quote is a Straw Man but that is a separate point)

>>508541369
All responses you received are retarded, the fact is that hell as purgative i.e. not eternal, or hell not existing altogether (apokatastasis) are the only sensible positions to hold

>>508560251
It is an ad hominem, irrefutable, it is in print, dumbass

Separately he did not call me out on anything, he ran away from the argument, he could not engage.

>>508539367 (OP)
they were brainwashed as children, they are incapable of letting go as adults.
its basically child abuse.
sad.

>>508539367 (OP)
Did you know that several very different religions around the world acknowledge some sort of cataclysmic flood thousands of years ago?

Even the most square atheist should reach the conclusion that something probably happened.

And if the bible was correct there, then what else is true?

>>508539367 (OP)
Retards on /pol/ believe they are literal, yes. Why? Because they're unintelligent and uneducated. Actual religious people believe they are not literal but contain higher truth expressed through figurative language.

>>508539367 (OP)
How about you? Are you a retard for having faith in pic related?

>>508559494
>ad hominem
Yes, I think we have found the issue, I was attacking a "homo".

>>508539367 (OP)
>>508564235
How about this?

>>508554378
t. Jehovahs Witness heretic

>>508539367 (OP)
>>508563300

>>508562771
Did modern day geologists acknowledge it?
The answer for you is no; im assuming many religions used floods in their text

>>508539367 (OP)
Go back to sucking off your dog you demented satanic faggot.

>>508554788
Wow, you Anglos are truly mentally ill.

>>508564504
great argument

>>508564252
Yet another ad hominem
You keep on losing, retard, and you keep on posting that you lost

>>508564567
>Did modern day geologists acknowledge it?
Yes. What we call "the Flood" geologists call "the Younger Dryas Event".
We know that it was a sudden cataclysmic climate change event, if it involved literal global flooding we aren't sure enough to say either way.

>The answer for you is no
You are as ignorant about geology as you are about religion. Sad. Many such cases.

>>508554378
>the Lord will simply annihilate the people not saved
You can't "simply annihilate" souls. Souls are mathematical objects and can't be destroyed.

>>508539367 (OP)
>Do retards really believe these fictional books are real? Why?

Either:
1. They haven't read them
2. They have read them and are schizophrenic enough to believe them
3. They have read them but were brainwashed as a child in to putting a positive spin on everything e.g. the magical story of Jew god saving Noah and the animals not being presented as the horrific murder by drowning of 99.999% of the world's life due to muh regret

Most "Christians" actually know very little about Christianity. They think heaven is some big place in the sky that they're all going to go to, despite the New Testament's book of Revelation being barely 21 pages long and explaining in depth (via an angel with a golden measuring stick) the exact measurements of heaven - a new Jerusalem where muh god will dwell on the Earth with 144,000 carefully specified Jews in a solid gold and gemstone encrusted city. There's pretty much no room for speculation or interpretation when it tells you the precise number from each tribe, and the measurement of every last wall and gate.

>>508565409
Literal interpretation of religious texts is the mark of absolute ignorance.

>>508565409
Utter nonsense.

>>508565409
If you read the New Testament you know that "heaven" and "kingdom of God" are two different and completely unrelated concepts.
Also, neither of them have anything to do with life after death.

(The popular conception of "heaven" is actually the ancient Greek Elysium, and isn't supported by anything in the Bible whatsoever.)