Or is their incessant dickriding of Israel heretical to Christ's teaching? It seems to me that Jesus would have a problem with the unfolding genocide in Gaza (for example). Evangelicals don't, though, because it is Israel that is doing, and to their way of thinking Israel can do no wrong.

Much is said about the "dual loyalties" of Jews and who they are a threat to American democracy, but Evangelicals are exactly the same way, but are far more numerous. They form an enormous voting bloc which centers around a single issue: dickriding Israel. There is a lot of better things our country probably could be doing instead, but we're not, and its largely because of Evangelicals dragging us down.

obviously not they worship the enemies of Christ and curse the church Christ founded

>>508579397 (OP)
Jesus came not to bring peace, but a sword. He will set brother against brother, and children against their parents! If you love your life more than Him, no heaven 4U!

>>508579397 (OP)
A real evangelical goes out into the world to preach the Gospel. notice how Ted Cruz has never taught the gospel of salvation in public.

>>508579397 (OP)
i'm baptist.
there is no genocide in gaza, that's just histrionics.
abortion and lgbtqiaiapz++ bullshit are bigger issues to me than the middle east stuff.

>>508580256
no you are a redditor

>>508580675
i've never posted there in my life.
the UI was too confusing to me.

also, why's it always only the evangelical branch of protestantism being reeeeeeee'd at?
do people not know the name of the other category? the one that's actually a problem?

>>508580932
I am independent Baptist, we teach that the world is going to hell and God will give them over to great deception. We don't fight flesh and blood but of spiritual darkness. I have verses if you want proof. Anabaptists have always kept the light the truth and the way. Amish are very strict and hard to get into, but you might try Mennonites or independent Baptist who will guide you.

>>508579397 (OP)
Christianity is a slave religion that has been adopted by the elites for 2000 years to keep the peasants in line.

>>508581681
>Roman Catholicism is a slave religion that has been adopted by the elites for 2000 years to keep the peasants in line.

>>508581446
i doubt we'd differ much.
what's your view as far as eschatology goes: pre-mil, post-mil, post-trib/pre-wrath, amill?

>God will give them over to a great deception
what does this mean exactly?
what's the role of evangelism if the world is already given over?
how do you define the gospel, and what role does grace play in your understanding of salvation?
in regards to sanctification, do you see cultural separation (like with the amish or mennonites) as necessary for holiness?
how ought we handle disagreements within the body of Christ?

>>508580932
The main problem is all those churches you mentioned have committees, councils, and creeds. God says to not to have respect of persons, meaning to place others higher than yourself. Once you start playing politics it's over for the church, the wolves in sheeps clothing enter and devour the flock.

>>508582164
how do you interpret passages like Acts 15 where the early church gathered in council to settle doctrinal issues?
isn't church leadership modeled throughout the new testament, roles like elders overseers and teachers?
how would you define "respect of persons," and do you think it necessarily applies to church roles and responsibilities?
do you believe there's value in historical creeds when they're based directly on scripture?
how does your church safeguard against doctrinal drift without shared statements of faith or accountability?
what does "wolves in sheep's clothing" look like in your experience, and how do you tell the difference from healthy church structure?

>>508581962
Jesus said there MUST be a falling away first. So Christ won't appear until after the great deception, the apostacy means that people will fall away from grace, turning the grace of our Lord into lavishness and filthy lucre.

The Gospel of Salvation is who is Jesus, and what did he do? Paul gives this clearly in 1 Cor 15:1-4
The Amish and Mennonites have catholic style councils so they are prone to deception, that is why I am independant baptist. If someone takes over your church you just make a new one.

You handle disagreements by telling the person you disagree with first, if it is still unresolved you go to the preacher and finally the pulpit. If no one listens then walk away start your own church.

>>508582481
That is why the Amish and Mennonites have kept their traditions for so long, but we shouldn't worship traditions as time has shown the wolves sneak in and slowly take them over with clever arguments. I don't spend my time arguing, I just stay in the King James Bible and the argument is over.

>>508579397 (OP)
Jesus WOULD have a problem with Gaza, but genocide doesn't really describe the issue, does it? The Palestinian collective choice was to stick a knife in the back of their neighbors and they are paying for it. Jesus only expects you to die for your government. He can't really be bothered with helping us live. Obey and win your Heaven, sucker!

What our role is, regarding Israel, has to do with their behavior in the greater community. What the problem is, is that there are Hebrew Israelis and there are European Israelis. The Hebrews understand trust. The Europeans understand "Will to Power". You can't learn trust by growing up in the home of a person who values trust. It's in the genes, not guaranteed by family ties.

The Palestinians should understand trust, but they only use that understanding to figure out when a person's guard is down. They're genociding themselves, and if it wasn't Israel, it would eventually be another nation.

Don't bother selling me your "evil Israel" story. If you don't get the difference, you never will. Christianity isn't about "Goys" serving the masters. It's about faking until you make it, and it always fails. Why?.... Baby making.

Let me know when you're ready to flush all this shit Abrahamic religion.

>>508583893
The will to power is just nature being sinful. All it leads to is the same fate of the dinosaurs. Nature is corrupted by evil.

Nature feeds it self and expands until it over eats and gets fat and sick. Just study the coral reef, if one species in the reef gets too dominant the entire reef gets sick and ceases to exist.

Jesus was about faith, faith in the higher existence it is the spirit of man that God wants, your body will die and enter the grave (the baptism) and you will reemerge to a new body. Putting your faith into this is transformative, putting aside all Earthly desires for food, clothing, cars, houses, and all the stuff your wife thinks she needs to be happy. Throwing away the cares of this world is when you can truly live and have the joy and peace that God intended for all life.

>>508579397 (OP)
In a small map, sister Miriam is best faction

>>508586443
Kikeflag lmao

>>508586666
Satanic Quads

>>508584876
That is why you don't get it. If a person was born with the genes of his animal ancestors, he can think like an animal. He doesn't haggle over morality. It's always there, in the moment. Humans always try to sell that "heaven" shit. When you die, you're still dead though.

I can give up the cares of this world...and starve...or, I can selectively choose that which is attainable, or gamble on having a little bit more for myself. This has nothing to do with "all life".

The yin of the Abrahamic faiths is to teach people to have reasonable expectations. The yang is that they must conform to the will of the State. This is the unique characteristic of the second "Out of Africa" movement. We all came from those roots, but we are not all driven by the "dog pack" mentality that is the byproduct.

The dog pack mentality works because humanity is now defined by it's greatest enemy, other humans. There's no bible that can change this. What changes it, is environments where making enemies of your neighbors will kill you quicker, but sooner or later,.... baby making.

>>508579397 (OP)
Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy

>pic related

>>508587226
>If a person was born with the genes of his animal ancestors, he can think like an animal.
The Gospel message wasn't about bragging about what you can do. We all have gifts and weaknesses. The person who was born with down syndrome can still serve in God's Kingdom.

>Humans always try to sell that "heaven" shit.
Why are you in a religion thread, no one here is selling anything, only sharing freely what we believe.

>and starve..
Your low IQ is showing, no one said starve. Our forefathers saith eat to live, not live to eat.

>dog pack mentality works
until they meet a pack of pelt makers, God will always keep his creation healthy and whole, you lack faith in God therefore you will brag about your own works like a fool.

>>508587414
>pic related is Jesus

>>508579397 (OP)
They're really not. Matthew 7:1 "Judge not lest thee be judged" Chrinos are very judgy but it's not for us mortals to judge people. God will judge us all in time, we should instead focus on being good people and taking care of our friends and neighbors.

>>508579397 (OP)
>Are Evangelicals real Christian
They're the only honest Christians.

>>508587414
Jesus of Nazareth was definitely a real person. Perhaps he wasn't God but he was definitely a man trying to do the right thing even if it killed him.

>>508588714
>Jesus of Nazareth was definitely a real person.
Citation needed

>>508584876
Oh, and in an effort to keep the ball in play, The Abrahamic faiths other than Christianity are not designed for "Out of Africa" people. If you were to really be honest about Christianity, it's likely that the metaphor for Jesus is the reality of being a bastard child of a Roman conqueror, and hated by both Romans and Jews.

The genetic reality of "Jews" is problematic. They are a people defined by what is likely defined as a Denisovan trait, an adaptation to hot climates that was successful in a different way than Neanderthals were successful....another "Out of Africa" movement that could be considered the origin of the unique quality that separates humans from animals.

The Neanderthal mutation is that of a brain that thinks temporally. The reality is that pain/pleasure wiring shifts away from one or two bit arrays, as in animals, and favoring even numbers for males who fight, and odd numbers for females who flee. The first Neanderthals were probably stuck in temporal focus by shifting priorities within the lobes of the cerebrum, but it was the second wave of Modern man out of Africa who developed a kind of focus enhancer cell in the cerebral frontal lobes, a similar trait to that of dogs, foxes and wolves, but the animals have that trait in the whole cerebrum.

The Denisovans had a ganglionic trait that was more voluntary in how metabolism is regulated, closer to that of a marsupial. The secondary result was a tendency to be more scientific, less superstitious. When you read the Old Testament, and likely the Koran, you're expected to read between the lines. They were written by people who were not a natural neighbor to the Africans who were their close neighbors. Mostly, they're either a matriarchal or a patriarchal code for serving the state.

The Christian bible is still about serving the state, but it's lies for people who want to hear lies. That's all.

Evangelicalism is a psyop created by jews to turn normal Christians into servile goys

>>508588952
>but where's the peer reviedwed evidence?
The majority of historians agree Jesus was a real person
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!

>>508588054
I'm sure there are many people in Palestine who are smart, but they don't give their food to Hamas, and they will die. There's no moral to that story.

You're certainly demonstrating the will of the state. Take orders. Don't try to understand.

I'd rather not die from starvation because Hamas can't get food while hiding in tunnels, nor by dying as just another bit of livestock that wasn't interested in the baby factories that were offered to me. My fate is in God's hands, as far as I'm concerned.

I ask questions. I expect fuckin' answers. Plenty of dead gods out there. What's one more?

>>508579397 (OP)
End times can't happen if Israel doesn't exist thus Jesus can not return

The Evangelists know Israel is evil
but that evil is necessary for Christ's return to throw them into the Lake of Fire
Only Jesus can destroy the Jews
No other force on Earth could hope
Not Even Hitler could accomplish it

>>508589282
>The majority of historians agree Jesus was a real person
Yeah, the majority of historians also agree that over 6 grillion innocent Jewish babies were turned into soap at Auschwitz, so who fucking cares. Just show me the fucking evidence, mate.

Revelations 3:9
Acts 7:43

Any Christian that supports the false jews, the synagogue of satan is a heretic.

>>508589824
4 gospels plus a couple of extra biblical sources, buddy.

>>508589977
>4 gospels
Matthew, Luke and John are all rewrites of Mark, so that's 1 source not 4 sources.

Also Mark is just a rewrite of earlier Jewish literature, reworking stories about Abraham/Moses/Elijah/whoever into stories about Jesus. So that's 0 sources, not 4 sources.
>plus a couple of extra biblical sources, buddy.
None of them were written before the 190s so that's STILL zero sources

>>508589977
What about the gospel of L. Ron Hubbard and the gospel of J.R. Dobbs? I yearn for apocrypha!

>>508590389
>None of them were written before the 190s so that's STILL zero sources
Tacitus was during the reign of Nero

>>508590389
>Matthew, Luke and John are all rewrites of Mark
Idiotic statement. Prove it.
>Also Mark is just a rewrite of earlier Jewish literature, reworking stories about Abraham/Moses/Elijah/whoever into stories about Jesus.
Again, where is your evidence?
>None of them were written before the 190s so that's STILL zero sources
They don't have to be written before the 190s to be valid sources, you goof.

>>508590739
>Tacitus was during the reign of Nero
Yeah, but Tacitus' works contain no mention of Jesus (unless there was something in the volume that's been lost for 18 centuries)

>>508579397 (OP)
They are worshipping Pharisees, the Synagogue of Satan. They reject teachings of Jesus and New Testament. It is not only a blasphemy but simply evil.

>>508590389

>>508590913
>Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

>>508589036
To God is all the glory and power amen.

>>508579397 (OP)
Can you point to any recent data that proves evangelicals as a majority support Israel or is this another "I'm a homosexual and the evangelicals are the meanest Christians to me therefore I must shill against them" thread by troons?

>>508590832
>Idiotic statement. Prove it.
As I have explained to you several times already, the proof is that they copy long passages that are often word-for-word identical to the original passages, minus the odd "corrections". The chances that Mark, Matthew, Luke and John would all independently describe the same story using EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING WORDS are about as unlikely as the chances of you having both testicles
>Again, where is your evidence?
I've already given you the academic sources discussing this at length. Honestly, the question of Mark's re-use of the Elijah-Elisha cycle hasn't been remotely controversial in biblical studies for about 30 years now
>They don't have to be written before the 190s to be valid sources
LMAO fucking desperation

>>508589036
>an effort to keep the ball in play
You are the one saying that I am here selling you something, I'm not the one with clever arguments. Just shared what I believe, take it or leave it.

>>508579397 (OP)

The evangelicals who worship Israel are a bizarre modern heresy of protestantism that starts with Darby.

Good luck deprogramming them though

>>508591026
>Using (((ChatGPT))) to win an argument
Literally, not figuratively but LITERALLY kys mate

>>508591067
>Blah blah blah
We have known for over 100 years that the passage has been altered to insert the word "Christian", you fucking retard

>>508591115
Glory is for dog packs. Power is trivial if you can't use it for your own needs and pleasures. You still have to live with the results of the choices you make. I prefer not have others make them for me.

>>508591489
>We have known for over 100 years that the passage has been altered to insert the word "Christian"
>Suggestions that the passage may have been a complete forgery have been generally rejected by scholars. John P. Meier states that there is no historical or archaeological evidence to support the argument that a scribe may have introduced the passage into the text. Scholars such as Bruce Chilton, Craig Evans, Paul Eddy and Gregory Boyd agree with John Meier's statement that "Despite some feeble attempts to show that this text is a Christian interpolation in Tacitus, the passage is obviously genuine".

>>508591283
The question was "Are Evangelicals real Christians?" This isn't "clever"..it's keeping the ball in play. I don't discuss things as though there are absolutes.

>>508579697
>based jesus lover

>>508591276
>they wrote Jesus' exact words
>why did they write the exact same thing?
holy cope...

>>508579397 (OP)
No, they're like Mormons. Evangelicals follow fan-fiction written by John Nelson Darby.

But who cares, all religion is fake anyway.

>>508591674
thanks for proving my point, you are the one here shilling your belief system with copy pasta. So far you only turn people away.

>>508591489
it's grok but it's funny to watch you cry about it every time.
this one was my favorite.
LLMs are going to be the nail in the coffin for nu-atheism.

>>508591640
>>Suggestions that the passage may have been a complete forgery have been generally rejected by scholars.
Bitch, you can literally see the scratched-out writing in the x-ray image of the manuscript of (((Wikipedia))). Fuck off with your scholars bullshit.

>>508591418
Update your script, only boomers and their pre internet MKultra blindly support Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-israel-among-young-us-evangelicals-drops-sharply-survey/

>>508591916
>they wrote Jesus' exact words
Yeah, that wouldn't be conclusive on its own, but they also copied WORD FOR FUCKING WORD all of the text that isn't spoken by Jesus

>>508592113
>it's grok but it's funny to watch you cry about it every time.
Haven't even bothered reading it yet, mate

>>508591956
I'm proving your point by letting you prove my point..yada...yada! It's not about shilling anything...and I don't even know what "copy pasta" is supposed to be. My ideas are my own. I take ownership for them...and ...I might be a bit overly authoritative when I express them because it sets the stage for providing tangible evidence that matters. I don't like Bible thumpers anymore than the next guy, but that doesn't really mean that I'm trying to sound smart.

>>508579397 (OP)
I'm playing a game right now as Stump Lady against a transcended difficulty Sister Miriam. Sadly the game is already over. For some reason they're having energy troubles barely getting 10 a turn while I'm getting 7300 and it increases by 80+ every turn.

>>508592131
>the text spelled the guy who "suffered the extreme penalty" under "pontius pilatus"'s name Chrestus instead of Christus! so it couldn't have been talking about Jesus!
this is such a sad argument.

>>508592233
>word for word
You do know that some of the sources they used were the same, right?

>>508579397 (OP)
>Are an anti-Christ group the real Christians?
What do you think?

>>508592397
you're arguing over whether or not God exists and saying that we must fight people for power using a "dog pack mentality". Historically mob rule gets squashed by wiser more powerful law abiding authority. Don't you have a riot to attend?

>>508579397 (OP).

I'm not Christian so this doesn't concern me. I worship FRAP.

>thread devolves into another Gays vs Christians without OP ever providing a single source of proof for his claims about evangelists
Man you zoomers ITT are the most stupid easy to fake out with bait generation of all time
What a garbage thread

>>508588619
>Judge not lest thee be judged
Yeah? Well, judge me, nigga. Do your worst.

>>508592446
>>the text spelled the guy who "suffered the extreme penalty" under "pontius pilatus"'s
Do you know how many fucking people got executed by Pilate? No, of course you fucking don't.

Do you know how common the name "Chrestus" was during Roman times? No, of course you fucking don't.

>>508589723
So you christcucks are trying to trick jesus into coming back? lmao how is this different from jews tricking God everyday?
you are all nuts. after all this shit storm and demonic rituals and blood sacrifice someone will come but he definitely will not be jesus lol you will be following an antichrist who has kafir and deus vault tatoos on his face who will lead you to hell. screencap it faggot

>>508592131
Mhmm, sorry I'm going to go with the scholarly consensus.

>>508592460
>You do know that some of the sources they used were the same, right?
You mean Q? Yes, we all know that Matthew and Luke are copying from both Mark and Q. This isn't much of a shock or even relevant to my argument.

>>508592937
let's stick to the evidence.
the Tacitus passage in Annals (15.44) refers to a figure executed under Pontius Pilate, which aligns with the historical timeline of Jesus.
The debate over Chrestus vs Christus comes from a variant spelling in SOME manuscripts, but Chrestus was a common greek name and early Christians were sometimes called Chrestians due to the phonetic similarity (example: Suetonius' Claudius 25.4)

real scholars like John Meier and Bart Ehrman (and unlike Carrier) argue the passage is authentic because it fits Tacitus' style and lacks Christian interpolation markers.
while it's true many were executed under Pilate, the specific reference to a figure tied to a movement called "Christians" narrows it down significantly.
if you're got primary source evidence for another "Chrestus" executed by pilate sparking a similar movement, i'd love to see it.
otherwise, the Jesus connection holds up better than the alternatives.

>>508593173
>Mhmm, sorry I'm going to go with the scholarly consensus.
I just gave you the scholarly consensus: people who are familiar with the field all think it's a forgery. Of course the (((Bible historians))) sometimes disagree, but they are experts in a different field of research.

>Mhmm, sorry I'm going to go with the scholarly consensus.
BITCH ANYONE WITH TWO EYES CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL FUCKING TEXT, WHAT ARE WE EVEN ARGUING ABOUT HERE

>>508593156
>you will be following an antichrist who has kafir and deus vault tatoos on his face
Nah, the Antichrist will be a secular Buddhist homosexual demiqueer Jewish AI oligarch.
Think a mix of Sam Altman and Yuval Noah Harari.

Yes, the future will be maximum cringe and gay.

>>508593444
>I just gave you the scholarly consensus: people who are familiar with the field all think it's a forgery.
Wxcept your wrong. That is not the scholarly consensus. You're so funny.

>>508579397 (OP)
some christcucks are beyond the pale retarded

>>508579397 (OP)

>>508593430
>the Tacitus passage in Annals (15.44) refers to a figure executed under Pontius Pilate, which aligns with the historical timeline of Jesus.
So fucking what? The Tacitus passage doesn't mention the nativity, the baptism by John, the miracles, the teachings, the triumphal march to Jerusalem, the events in the temple, the last supper, the betrayal, the arrest, the trials, the crucifixion, the empty tomb, the resurrection OR the fucking ascension.

All you have is "Pilate kill man, so man must be Jesus". It's fucking pathetic, mate.

>real scholars like John Meier and Bart Ehrman
Yeah, neither of them are historians so I don't fucking care what they think

>lacks Christian interpolation markers.
LMAO, you realise the word "Christian" wasn't even invented until a century later, right? Right...?

>if you're got primary source evidence for another "Chrestus" executed by pilate sparking a similar movement
If you had even read a single book on the subject of early Chrsitianity, then you would already know that the answer to this question is "the same guy is also mentioned by Suetonius". Fucking retard.

>>508593620
>Wxcept your wrong. That is not the scholarly consensus. You're so funny.
Fucking prove it, faggot. I just posted a screenshot from an actual academic article written by an expert in the field. All you have is the smell of your own farts.

>>508592728
Does mob rule get squashed, or is it the entire tribe that gets genocidally terminated? This is important because the thread is about "Evangelicals" That assumes that one is out to convert the world to their faith. If the faith is not a good fit for all the tribes out there, what exactly is expected of a "real" Christian?

I put forth that Christianity is divided like Suni vs. Shite, like Ashkenazim vs. Sephardic. The Evangelical are simply people who take a trial and error approach to their salesmanship. The question is "What is God's will?" Are all men brothers or are we obliged to play a shell game with the state before God is revealed?

I'd rather bypass the bungling evangelical if the State isn't going to give me a "Get out of Hell" card any old way.

>>508594008
>Fucking prove it, faggot.
>>508591640

>>508593884
you're right that tacitus doesn't recount Jesus' entire life, but that's not his purpose. he's a roman historian writing about Nero's persecution of Christians, not a biographer of Jesus. the key point is that Tacitus confirms:
1: a man was executed under pilate (matching the Gospels)
2: his followers were called CHRISTIANS (matching Acts 11:26)
3: the movement persisted decades later (matching Paul's letters)
you dismiss Meier and Ehrman for not being "historians," but both are respected scholars of early Christianity. Ehrman specializes in textual criticism and meier in historical Jesus studies. if you prefer secular historians, Maurice Casey or Paula Fredriksen also affirm Tacitus' authenticity.

As for the Chrestus/Christus, spelling variations are common in ancient texts (like Josephus' Testimonium has similar fluctuations.)
the content matters. Tacitus links pilate, an execution, and a movement called CHRISTIANI. no other Chrestus fits that profile.

you mention Suetonius (Cladius 25.4) but he's describing a living "Chrestus" causing riots in rome decades after Jesus' death. that's a different figure.
if you've got a better explanation why tacitus, a hostile source, would invent this detail, i'm open to it.
but "pilate killed a lot of people" isn't a rebuttal, it's avoiding the specific evidence.

>>508579397 (OP)
The Jews were the original pushers of monotheism, Christianity started as an urban movement of the impoverished beggars and onlyfans hoes, united European through domination and conquest uniting it under universalistic globohomo empires and then proceeded to lay the philosophical ground work for individualism taken to it's logical end marxism and globalism and soon trans humanism. Scofeild Bible was obviously influenced by kikes but so is Christianity, marxism, and even Islam on an axiomatic level. Pitting your own reflection as a inherently negative linear battle you will never win is a much more pessimistic worldview than recognizing the cycles of growth and decay, the seasons face the same entropy as the animal or the nation, but matter always transfers hands and it never ultimatley destroyed.

>>508594573
>you're right that tacitus doesn't recount Jesus' entire life,
He doesn't even use the name Jesus nor does he reveal his source

>>508594321
>Fucking prove it, faggot.
Bitch I want to see an expert IN THE FIELD OF PALEOGRAPHY

Not an expert in Minecraft
Not an expert in Japanese history
Not an expert in chess

SHOW ME EVIDENCE FROM AN EXPERT IN THIS ACTUAL FIELD OF STUDY

>>508579397 (OP)
BASED
SMAC MENTIONED

>>508594573
>you're right that tacitus doesn't recount Jesus' entire life
Bitch he doesn't recount FUCKING ANYTHING about Jesus' life
>you mention Suetonius (Cladius 25.4) but he's describing a living "Chrestus" causing riots in rome decades after Jesus' death. that's a different figure.
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion, genius? Oh yeah, you're just copying from ChatGPT. I forgot.

>>508592157

Learn how to read

>>508579397 (OP)
Evangelicals are considered weird europe. Only anglos and some northern germans and some scandi countries used to practice it. Even southern germany is more catholic.

But thanks to britain the usa is mostly evangelical.

In my opinion they are more pro racemixing pro immigration pro gay than catholics. They also are more pro jesus and less behaving well as a person, as in if you believe in jesus then you can be shitty even.

So yeah evangelicals are the weirder ones,but I am not religious. They also lack the cool temples that catholics have.

>>508579397 (OP)
Nobody cares about your Jewish bullshit
Fuck off

>>508594086
As I have already pointed out in previous posts, Catholicism pretends to be Christians when they aren't as a result you have many protesters of the Catholic Church which still base their belief system around it. The bible calls them the little harlots which came from the mother of harlots because they sell themself for money.

>>508586257
Miriam is the most fun AI faction.

>>508579397 (OP)
The hardest pill for Christians to swallow is that dickriding the jews and pissrael IS real Christianity.

>>508595368
you're right that tacitus doesn't give a biography of Jesus, but that's because he's not writing one. his goal was to explain Nero's scapegoating of Christians, not to retell Jesus' life. what he DOES confirm independently of the Bible is
1: a man called Christus was executed under pilate
2: his followers (CHRISTIANI) still existed decades later
3: Nero blamed them for the fire in Rome (64 AD)
that's three historical anchors matching Christian, jewish and roman records.

as for Suetonius (Cladius 25.4)
he mentions Claudius expelling jews from rome (49 AD) due to riots instigated by "Chrestus"
Jesus was already dead and resurrected by then (pilate ruled 26-36 AD)
Suetonius uses the present tense ("impulsore Chresto" [...] "at the instigation of Chrestus"), implying an active agitator, not an executed founder.
no ancient source links Chrestus to pilate or crucifixion.

so unless you think Jesus faked his death, led riots in rome 15+ years later, and tacitus/suetonius both confused the story, this is clearly a different person.
if you disagree, show me one credible ancient source that ties Suetonius' "chrestus" to Pilate's execution. otherwise, the evidence still points to Jesus.

>>508579697
>If you love your life more than Him
then kill yourself you cocksucking abrahamic filth

>>508596176

>>508596584
Okay Israeli.

>>508596232
>you're right that tacitus doesn't give a biography of Jesus,
Bitch you're just copying from ChatKKK, none of what you say makes any cohesive logical sense

>if you disagree, show me one credible ancient source that ties Suetonius' "chrestus" to Pilate's execution. otherwise, the evidence still points to Jesus.
LMAO, your entire rationale for tying the Tacitus account to a historical Jesus is that "ummm, like, umm, uhhhhh....."

>>508579397 (OP)
No, they're anti-christianity. Not just because of this issue, but how they twist what Jesus said at seemingly every opportunity. For example Christian forgiveness without contrition is absolute blasphemy and solipsistic and yet THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME!

>>508592845
Zoomer hate is gay and annoying and overdone. Kys d&c faggot

>search this thread for dispensationalism
>zero results
Do any of you know what you're talking about?

>>508597616
No, this board has gone to shit and people just throw meaningless insults around rather than having a meaningful discussion.

>>508595917
Would you feel at home if I said that sounds like an AI response? In actuality, I was raised Catholic but I don't defend them. I just know that my knowledge of Christianity is mostly based on the Catholic dogma.

As for the "Harlot" stuff, that came out of the blue without any background information. Doesn't really make sense that the Bible would reference a church based on said Bible.

I'm not really here to leverage a tiresome chat about what so-and-so said in verse #xxx about witches and ducks. As far as I'm concerned, that just leads to the proverbial bible thumper who wants to tell me about the wages of sin, an' thas he ain' gonna pay me no wages!

So really, this has come to a point where the thread needs to specify what an Evangelical is and what a "true" Christian is? It's unfair to pose the question as it implies that they aren't the same, but does allow for a "true" Christian to include more than one interpretation.

I often get proselytized by an ex-minister who tells me that you can only get to heaven by believing in Jesus, even if you do it on your death bed and even if you were Hitler while on this earth.

I don't particularly like that interpretation of the Bible either. It suggests to me that the preacher is there to break down my barriers to psy-op instructions from the State. The Holy Ghost is BS. When it's an asshole newscast passing on instructions from the shaman in hiding, it's just another Hamas terrorist who will someday want my food and service as a human shield.

>>508579397 (OP)
catholicucks are bad for reading the bible accurately, burgerprotestants are bad for being too retarded to read the bible

>>508596232
>you're right that tacitus doesn't give a biography of Jesus
He doesn't even mention the name Jesus. Kinda odd for a historian. Maybe Jesus wasn't that remarkable

>>508597139
I am not an Israeli.

1. Israel is a national border within the land of Canaan, not a person or people.
2. The people who lived in that nation were not Jews but 12 different tribal nations.
3. The Jews who controlled the northern Kingdom became corrupt so God removed them
4. the land of canaan as a whole belongs to the seed of Abraham (Arabs, Muslims, and the 12 tribes of Israel)
5 God came down to Earth as a man to show the world that those in power in Jerusalem were corrupt and sinful

>>508597768
I'm not here to argue. You sound confused.

>>508598128
Whatever you say, Israeli.

>>508579542
fpbp

>>508598227
Truth is truth, those who have ears better listen

>>508598186
Not confused. Just tired of shell games.

>>508598289
>Truth is truth,
Fairytale isn't truth
>those who have ears better listen
Or what?

>>508597446
let's recap the facts.
1: Tacitus (Annals 15.44) a roman senator hostile to Christianity records that
>a man called Christus was executed by Pontius Pilate
>His movement (Christiani) still existed in Rome decades later
>Nero blamed them for the Great Fire (64 AD)
this matches
>The Gospels (Pilate, execution, movement)
>Paul's letters (Christian groups in rome by 50s AD)
>Josephus (Testimonium Flavianum, referencing Jesus)
2: Suetonius (Claudius 25.4) describes Claudius expelling jews from rome (49 AD) because of riots instigated by Chrestus
>15+ years after Jesus' execution
>no source links this "Chrestus" to pilate or crucifxion
>early Christians were called Chrestiani (Tertullian, apology 3.5) due to spelling variations

your argument:
>"LMAO uhhh"
this is not a rebuttal
>CHATKKK!
this is not a source

you still haven't provided:
1: a single ancient text linking suetonius' chrestus to pilate
2: a plausible alternative identity for tacitus' executed Christus.

>>508579397 (OP)
No, because they believe in Sola Scriptura, which is completely retarded.

>>508598918
can you define what you think sola scriptura means?

>>508579397 (OP)
Great game

I would always try to exterminate her first because she can become such a pain in the ass.

>>508598991
That anything outside the word of The Bible can not be probably filtered as God's intent without it. Apparently, God just isn't powerful enough to make his intent infallibly known to a person and scripture is the only way to confirm revelation.

>>508579697
>Jesus came
Unf

>>508598289
Show your flag, bud.

>>508596037
>>508586257
Why is she the only AI that puts armour on rovers?

>>508598715
then stop interacting with my posts and go join your dogs.

>>508598991
I think that's a new energy drink.

>>508599325
>show flag
pic related

>>508589723
This is christ cuck mental illness 101.

Translation
>Jews are invincible, they are the chosen people, Amen
>No one can defeat them according to the holy book they gave me.
>Only option is to do everything they say and hope magical jew on stick takes my jewish soul to jewish heaven. Apocalyptic international nuclear exchange and we all die is only way to win.

Good golem.

>>508598912
>1: a single ancient text linking suetonius' chrestus to pilate
There is no direct ancient text that explicitly links Suetonius's "Chrestus" to Pontius Pilate. However, some scholars have speculated that if "Chrestus" did refer to Jesus, then Pilate would be the Roman governor involved in his trial and execution, as recorded in the Gospels and other early Christian writings

>2: a plausible alternative identity for tacitus' executed Christus.
Why wouldn't Tacticus know the name Jesus?

>>508599180
so, you’re saying sola scriptura means the Bible’s the only reliable source for knowing God’s will, and personal revelation can’t be trusted without it?
why do you think that view’s flawed?

>>508599643
Because prophecies, communication, and intent was made in the very Bible itself without it, starting all the way back to Noah. The Bible is a telling, it's not the end all be all for ultimate truth. Even Jesus said to his disciples that he had more things to tell them, but they could not bear his word, for the time was not right.

>>508599900
And let me just clarify by saying The Bible is truth, but there's more to come. God is all powerful, he'll end up doing the same thing he did for everybody portrayed in The Bible by making his intent known. You can see it as a companion for future things to come. It's why the book of Revelations can't be clearly seen fully, because other things need to happen before we get the whole picture.

>>508599325
Depending how you look at it, the whore of Babylon represented in the White of the Alamo flag aka Catholicism is a testament of the authenticity of the Bible and of true christianity lighting up the darkest of Satan's dominion, or it's a slow dissolution of lukewarm Christianity as Satan's authority slowly erodes morality and faith of the inhabitants of Earth.

>>508599585
roman historians often referred to figures by titles, not birth names (Augustus instead of Gaius Octavius, Caesar is a dynastic name)
Christus was the term early Christians used, it means "anointed one" (messiah) Tacitus is citing what roman officials called the movement.
tacitus had no reason to care about Jesus' personal name, he was documenting nero's persecution of Christians, not the life of their founder.

>>508600587
>roman historians often referred to figures by titles
And Christus is an ambiguous title
>tacitus had no reason to care about Jesus' personal name
But there was only one person who performed specific miracles for all to see.

I guess of Jesus did exist, he wasn't what the Bible described

>>508579397 (OP)
They're starting project bluebeam, whatever you do, do not board the ships, frens.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uY_xgaPRYxA

>>508600865
there were many Jesuses. Even Satanist tell their follower to allow Jesus in their hearts.

There was only one Jesus who died for mankind's sin.

>>508600865
>But there was only one person who performed specific miracles for all to see.
Nonsense, you need to read some more books mate. Starting with Josephus, who describes several such people.

>>508601102
>There was only one Jesus who died for mankind's sin
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

>>508601247
I'm talking about the Biblical narrative

>>508579697
The sword is the Word of God idiot. Stop with the protestant nonsense

>>508600865
the ambiguity of Christus actually strengthens the case for Jesus' historicity, consider:

1: roman records consistently referred to foreign leaders by their most recognizable identifier (like Boudica instead of her celtic name)
2: the fact that tacitus uses this title shows he's recording what roman officials called the movement, this matches how pliny the younger calls them Christiani (letters 10.96) and suetonius uses the variant Chrestiani (Nero 16.2)
3: this administrative consistency across three independent roman sources confirms they were documenting an actual movement.

>miracles
you're applying modern evidentiary standards to ancient historiographies, roman historians
1: routinely recorded supernatural claims without verification (suetonius on vespasian's miracles, tacitus on temple wonders)
2: their standard wasn't "prove the miracles" but "document what people believe"
3: even the skeptical josephus records Jesus as a "doer of wonderful works" (Antiquities 20.9.1) without endorsing them.
crucially, the historical method distinguishes between:
1: the fact of Jesus' existence (established by multiple independent sources)
2: the interpretation of his deeds (where accounts differ)

>>508601496
The Word of God is a sword. Nothing more powerful. YOU SEE?

>>508579397 (OP)
Any "Christian" who quotes the OT is nothing more than a crypto Jew.

>>508601583
>even the skeptical josephus records Jesus as a "doer of wonderful works"
Liar, Josephus doesn't even mention Jesus once

>>508601583
>the ambiguity of Christus actually strengthens the case for Jesus' historicity
I don't think so. He wasn't the only one with the title
>>508601583
>2: their standard wasn't "prove the miracles" but "document what people believe"
Not much documentation for that. Let alone and contemporary accounts
>>508601583
>1: the fact of Jesus' existence (established by multiple independent sources)
Not really

>>508601583
>the lack of evidence is the evidence
Kek I've heard this one before.

>>508601873
https://www.sefaria.org/The_Antiquities_of_the_Jews.20.9.1?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en

>>508599325
Show your bud, flag.

>>508601583
Josephus and Tacitus nowhere near validates the gospels or rabbi yeshua lmao

Christjews love tricking people with this but their excerpts basically amount to "there's this jewish cult growing in rome who worships a guy they say we crucified"

>>508602146
Arabic Version: A 10th-century Arabic version of the Testimonium Flavianum discovered by Shlomo Pines in 1971 is considered by some scholars to be closer to Josephus' original text. This version lacks the overtly Christian language found in the traditional Greek manuscripts.

>>508601952
you're right that "Christos" (annointed one) was a Jewish concept, but no other 1st century figure
>was executed under pilate (per tacitus)
>had a movement called Christiani (per pliny, tacitus, suetonius)
>generated persistent veneration despite crucifxion (the ultimate roman humiliation)

if you claim this refers to someone else, name one other Christus figure from 26-36 AD who
>was executed by roman authority
>founded a movement that reached rome by 49 AD (suetonius)
>was still influential in 64 AD (nero's persecution)
the burden of proof is on you.

few contemporary accounts survive from antiquity period, by your fruitloop standard we'd reject
>boudica's revolt (zero contemporary accounts)
>hannibal's crossing of the alps (written 50+ years later)
>most figures from classical antiquity
what we do have is
>paul's letters (~50 AD, in living memory)
>mark's gospel (within generation)
>tacitus (115 AD) citing official records
this is better documentation than for most historical figures.

I don't think Miriam was a dispensationalist, particularly since she never even seems to mention jews. She really seems to be more of a luddic/traditional spiritualist.

>>508602364
even that version still acknowledges Jesus as a wise man with followers, and mentions his crucifixion under pilate.
it may lack the more overtly Christian phrasing but it still suggests josephus mentioned Jesus in some form. so saying "he doesn't even mention Jesus once" isn't accurate. the debate is more about how much of the passage is authentic versus interpolated.

>>508602884
>but no other 1st century figure
That we know of
>>508602884
>the burden of proof is on you.
These include figures like Judas of Galilee, Theudas, Simon of Peraea, and Athronges.

>>508602884
>standard we'd reject
None of these claimed to be God

>>508602884
>what we do have is
Nothing contemporary
>>508602884
>this is better documentation than for most historical figures
Incorrect

>>508579397 (OP)
>They form an enormous voting bloc
Do they though?

>>508579397 (OP)
sucking jew dick is quintessentially what it means to be a christian. so in that regard, evangelicals are among the purer christians.

>>508602146
That's a 4th-century interpolation, dummy. All the manuscripts originating from dates before that don't contain the Jesus passages.

Fucking hell mate, is this your first day in Bible Studies class or something

>>508602884
>no other 1st century figure was executed under pilate (per tacitus)
How the fuck would you know that, you dribbling imbecile? Do you realise you fragmentary the surviving evidence is?

>>508602301
>memeflag denies Jesus
Many such cases

>>508602364
>some (((scholars)))

>>508604370
>(((scholars)))
The same ones who agree Jesus existed

>>508603825
the "we don't have records" argument demonstrates profound ignorance of how ancient historiography works.
we have
>complete roman records of judean executions from pilate's era (philo, embassy to gaius documents this record-keeping)
>full lists of messianic claimants (josephus details dozens, none match this profile)
>zero evidence of any other Christus figure meeting these criteria
your argument is equivalent to saying "well, maybe there was a second alexander the great we don't know about." possibly? technically? plausible? not remotely.

your proposed alternatives fail spectacularly.
let's autopsy your list:
>judas of galilee: died 6 AD [too early] in a failed revolt [not executed quietly like Jesus]
>theudas: beheaded 46 AD (wrong decade, wrong method)
>simon of peraea: burned alive 4 BC (wrong century)
>athronges: killed in battle 4 BC (not executed)
none of these were called "Christus" by anyone or had followers called "Christiani" or were mentioned by tacitus/pliny/josephus in this context.

>claimed to be god
roman historians documented emperors claiming divinity (caligula's temple), eastern cult leaders making divine claims (apollonius of tyana) jew miracle workers (honi the circle-drawer)
yet NONE of these were confused with Jesus, because
>they didn't match the specific chronology (pilate era)
>they didn't have the specific movement (Christiani)
>they didn't have the specific death (crucifixion under roman authority)

your position requires believing
1: multiple hostile roman sources conspired to invent a crucified jew
2: a movement spread rapidly based on a non-existent figure
3: all early critics (celsus, lucian, etc) attacked a straw man
while providing
>zero alternative candidates
>zero evidence of fabrication
>zero explanation for Christianity's origin

>>508602884
you know that tacitus source is bullshit right? why do you think he fucked up pilate's title and called him a procurator instead of a prefect? hes literally roman, and the foremost expert on roman culture. thatd be like me referring to george washington as a prime minister. it just would not happen.
but it did, apparently, happen. ask yourself: why? because its the same mistake the gospels writers made, and was a deliberate insertion by jewish-christian scribes, a regularly conducted practice of theirs was to painstakingly copy important historical works one letter at a time in order to corrupt them and manually insert mention of jesus or other jewish narratives as a way of legitimizing them.

just be smarter than jews. thats all you gotta do.

>>508604674
>profound ignorance of how ancient historiography works
I just don't buy your excuses is all
>>508604674
>your proposed alternatives fail spectacularly.
Not really. Their stories could have been changed

>none of these were called "Christus" by anyone or had followers called "Christiani" or were mentioned by tacitus/pliny/josephus in this context.
You don't actually know that

>>508604674
>>claimed to be god
>roman historians documented emperors
But we aren't talking about an emporer. And it's funny how those claims have documented instances but Jesus doesn't

Hey man you can believe whatever you like but I remain unconvinced

1. Lack of Contemporary and Archaeological Evidence:

Absence in 1st-Century Greek and Roman writings: Mythicists argue that major Greek and Roman historians of the first century, such as Bart D. Ehrman suggests that if Jesus were a real and impactful figure, he would have been mentioned.

No archaeological evidence: There is a notable lack of direct archaeological evidence tied to Jesus himself.

No written evidence directly linked to Jesus: Jesus himself did not write anything, nor, according to this argument, did his closest followers.

Lack of secular mentions of gospel events: Some argue that significant events mentioned in the Gospels, such as the slaughter of the innocents by Herod, the darkness at Jesus' death, or the Star of Bethlehem, are not mentioned in secular historical records.
2. Questionable Reliability of Christian
Sources:

Gospels written decades later: The Gospels were written decades after the events they describe, raising questions about their accuracy and whether they contain historically reliable information.
Paul's Epistles and lack of biographical detail: Some argue that Paul, an early Christian figure, appears to lack knowledge of basic biographical details about Jesus found in the Gospels and does not rely on Jesus' teachings to support his arguments when it might be expected.

Gospels as untrustworthy reports: The Gospels are seen by some as written for the purpose of faith rather than historical accuracy, potentially containing contradictions, errors, and reliance on existing prophecies.
.

>>508579397 (OP)
I like Alpha centauri, good extension of Civ2.

>>508590389
this is a lie and utterly disproven. The gospel of Mark was written before the destruction of the temple. around 55 AD. The other gospels were written afterward in the 2nd century.
Stop spreading misinformation, Israeli memeflaggot

>>508605077
>i just don't buy your excuses
this isn't about belief, it's about minimum standards of evidence, you're
>rejecting roman records (tacitus, pliny)
>rejecting jewish records (josephus)
>rejecting Christian records (paul, creeds)
>offering zero positive evidence for your skepticism
this isn't skepticism, it's dogmatic denial.
if everyone adopted the religion of atheism's methodology it would erase 90% of ancient history.

>the stories could have been changed
your argument:
>maybe the records are wrong (without evidence)
>maybe someone else existed (without names)
>maybe everything was fabricated (without motive or mechanism)
this is not how history works. we could apply this to
>alexander the great (maybe ptolemy made him up!)
>julius caesar (maybe augustus forged the records!)
>all ancient figures.

the emperor comparison actually destroys your argument.
you admit we have
>records of emperors claiming divinity
>records of other miracle works
and yet! somehow! only Jesus, whose movement was persecuted by emperors, started among illiterate peasants, and spread initially without state support is the only one you think was fabricated?
goodness gracious.

>>508605591
>Absence in 1st-Century Greek and Roman writings
right off the bat, luke was a greek non-jew historian, so i'm not going to bother addressing the rest of this garbage.
mythicists are seen as flat earthers even among their secular peers for a reason.

>>508606177
>The gospel of Mark was written before the destruction of the temple
LMAO
>around 55 AD
LMAO X 2

>>508604674
im sure they figured out what jews were doing, it wasnt even their first attempt at trying to conquer rome using religious warfare. the luxury of controlling history in the way they had the flavians engage is that you can simply erase peoples criticisms from the record, exactly as jews did.

but today we have the luxuries of being able to hyperanalyze the evidence (not that you should even need to, the whole story itself is obviously bullshit) and provided you are dedicated to finding the truth and not simply in proving your position, with enough time you will be able to piece the puzzle together. though youll need to be disciplined in multiple fields, but that shouldnt be too difficult for someone with an internet connection who can circumvent the social stigma of only being an expert in one thing and one thing only and the culture of absence of information which kept christianity afloat throughout its history.

i think it helps especially to always start with the greeks and never the jews. get an adequate portrait of their reputation before you start believing anything theyre trying to sell you. even back then their character and reputation was well established, probably even moreso than it would be today in some regards.
if you start with herodotus, you can get a layout of the wider landscape, and how the institution of religion was being weaponized to accomidate or shape state policy. and this was of course known to jews. so by their attempt to conduct their uniquely jewish form of religious warfare against the spartans, you can already see it was something pretty well established in their arsenal, and can see the beginnings of what would become the christian psyop, and how it evolved over time to better accomidate its targeted audience. a pattern you can also notice if you read the gospels chronologically. really, theyre just the same source, rewritten and editorialized with corrected errors and merely further tailoring its usage towards gentiles.

>>508580256
You're a unsaved faithless heretic. Have fun burning in hell for transgressions against God.

>>508606779
i believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that He died for my sins and rose again. I have confessed Him as my Lord and Savior, and by grace through faith i am saved, not by works but by His mercy.

>>508606429
>this isn't about belief
It really is though

>this isn't skepticism
It is. I will concede that he most likely existed but I'm not personally convinced amd if he did exist. He wasn't a supernatural figure.

Funny how crucifixion is documented but not the resurrection, nor the empty tomb, nor him appearing to followers, nor the dead rising.

>>508606177
>right off the bat, luke was a greek non-jew historian
However, the question of whether Luke was a Jew or a Gentile remains a topic of scholarly debate. Some argue that his Greek proficiency does not necessarily mean he was a Gentile, as Jews could also be fluent in Greek. Additionally, there are arguments suggesting that Luke may have been a Hellenistic Jew, given his deep knowledge of the Old Testament and his possible connection to the early Christian community in Antioch

>>508606731
*synoptic gospels

john i would consider seperate from the previous standard of recycling some 800 of the 860 verses like matthew did from mark

>>508606996
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

>>508606779
>>508606996
youre both going to be spending an eternity with jews

>>508579397 (OP)
>s their incessant dickriding of Israel heretical to Christ's teaching?
Yes

>>508604477
>(((People))) who deny historic documents
>say Jesus existed.


>>508606429
90% is generous. These are the people that typically call a tranny a woman and make sure you use their pronouns.

>>508607425
>>(((People))) who deny historic documents
>>say Jesus existed.
Yup.

>These are the people that typically call a tranny a woman and make sure you use their pronouns
Lole those same scholars who believe Jesus existed. Lol

>>508579397 (OP)
you worship a kike on a stick regardless of denomination

>>508607275
not really, the character was an avowed jewish supremacist
and if you include the schizophrenic episode of the jew they call john of patmos, then he tells you outright about his super favorite 144,000 jews, 12,000 from each [fake] jewish tribe. pretty much definitely outright tells you no goys allowed

>>508607593
>There's a plethora of tranny scholars.
Tell us more about your time at Tel aviv university.

>>508607868
>Tell us more about your time at Tel aviv university
Speaking from experience?

>>508607425
Denying the existence of jesus isn't a particularly jewish phenomenon, if you looked at the jesus mythicists here they're largely Gentiles.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/21420
The talmud doesn't deny the existence of jesus, does it? Find another cope. Trying desperately to look like an anti-semite isn't working.

>>508607868
i think he meant tranny in its original form, as could be surmised from its contextual sense - transjewish

>>508607775
>lashes out at someone saying Israel worship is heretical
The jew cries out in pain as it strikes you.

>>508608470
Maybe find a book that doesn't say jews and Greeks are one in christ, salvation is of the jews, tells you to convert jews so they can go to your jewheaven, and that jews will eventually accept christ and be saved. Your shitty jewish book is the problem, not the people pointing it out.

>>508579397 (OP)
>Are Evangelicals real Christians?
never were

>>508608470
not really 'lashing out', just pointing out the misinformed opinion you expressed regarding a cult of jew worshipping retards who elevate the station of jews and would implicitly treat them as a caste higher than any non-christian, ergo dickriding

pick your most 'based' christian, luther maybe, and they will *all* grant jews that elevated status. not above themselves, but above everyone else. which amounts to riding their dick, since pride is a sin and christians cant even in good conscience praise their own self-supposed superiority, atleast not in any way anyone would else would recognize as demeaning. and so that leaves jews, and everyone else. and they place jews above the 'everyone else'. capable of killing a god after all, theyre practically superheroes to christians.

taking all of that account, it would be incorrect to say its heretical to worship israel. israel is their spiritual teet. the jewsus characters spends his entire 3 pages of dialogue talking about how great they are, how amazing their anonymous jewish writers who backdate their work and writing about events that had already happened or never actually happened as such wise prophets.
if jewsus dickrides israel, why wouldnt christians?

>>508609887
cant forget about luther
and torquemada's jewish adventures in gaping peoples butts which many Christians participated in never even once noticing how gay and jewish it all was

>>508579397 (OP)
If you didn't pick Hive then you lack total commitment to the cause. I just role play that the White Chinese and Chiang Kai-shek won the civil war

bump

>>508607929
>ask a question
>speaking from experience
You seem to have trouble with words. Or think you can play with them and no one notices.

How many credits was that at tel aviv university?

>>508608227
>some guy did something
>(((scholar))) says Justin supported it
JIDF is stretching for it's memes

>>508579397 (OP)
I don't know how people cope post about this shit when in Tacitus' time, which was only a few decades after Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef's death, he was ALREADY writing about christgolems shipping gold and goods to Israel to enrich the "saints" (read: jews) at the expense of their own people.

It was a problem in his time, and it's a problem today.

The obvious connective tissue here is christkikery.

>>508611376
Martin Luther wrote tons of books about how he loved jews.
He wrote only one about hating jews.

Why?

Because he thought the jews would convert to his new form of christianity.

They didn't.

There's no reason why a highly rich and mobile tribal group would give up their tribal religion for a weak pussy wishy-washy universalist sect that THEY THEMSELVES CREATED and KNOW IS FAKE.

>>508612589
>You seem to have trouble with words
Nah, you just baseless accusations that can easily be turned around on you
>How many credits was that at tel aviv university?
You tell me. Seems you know better

>>508613535
>still doesn't understand words
How were your experiences at tel aviv primary school with tranny scholars?

>>508614773
>doesn't get it
Maybe go hack to the I university you mentioned, kek

>508613535
posted literally 4 seconds after>>508613525
get gud n00b

It's time to take the Morganpill.

>>508581681
>keep the peasants in line.
Wrong
That is Roman Catholicism - they're also known for murdering Christians!
(& Rebelling against the Greek - Eastern churches)