If it comes down to usa vs russia, who will win?

>>508580877 (OP)
obviously USA but they have no interest un that conflict.
russian military power is a meme and I suspect the nukes dont exist or work otherwise they wouldn't accept being auch laughing stock with hohols.

>>508580877 (OP)
>india
lol, lmao, kek
why do you retards even go online? just stay in your shit hole and talk to each other about how you love shit.

>>508580877 (OP)
Whose side is Israel on?

>>508580877 (OP)
USA and it's not even close.
Ignore what the Ivans shill you on this board, Russia has been invading a poor neighbouring country for 3+ years now and still aren't making any real progress; they would absolutely capitulate against US forces.

>>508581111
checked

Russia has T-I-G-E-R-S and H-I-V.

Burgermutts can't compare.

I'd guess a total war is a loss for Russia, a ground war a win.

>>508581123
What's funny is when they cope they say "Well Ukraine has advanced Western weapons that we didn't expect them to get" like bruh. If you can't beat a bunch of Cossack without outdated NATO equipment what makes you think you can beat NATO at all?

>>508580877 (OP)
China.

>>508580877 (OP)
>5k nukes vs 5.5k nukes
Nobody. Each of them has enough WMDs to level the planet.

>>508581028
Meh, we come out to see what its like to see an americuck who is soon gonna die for the glory of Israel
Its way more entertaining

>>508580877 (OP)
in a conventional war, obviously the USA
no one wins in a nuclear war though, even though Russia won't do shit, we find ourselves in the cuck timeline that in a last act of seethe when they're losing someone could fire the missiles

>>508580877 (OP)
neither state, but russia has a higher rural population dispersed over a larger area
if there is to be a nuclear war, and there are survivors, then there will be more russians than americans among them

>>508580877 (OP)
India would win.

rolling for both nuking india

>>508580877 (OP)
It's going to come down to Pakistan and Russia vs the Chinese/India alliance, for delicious resources. Russia has never trusted China ever, they nearly went to war over Cambodia.

>>508581764
asiatics without toilets vs WASPs and german dutch

>>508581435
>die for jizzrael
whatever jeet just try not to step in literal human shit when you walk outside, lol, lmao, kek
go die a virgin you loser lizard raping street shitter.

>>508582020
So hostile and butthurt over a simple comment
I guess you're already on a plane to fight for the child rapists?

>>508580877 (OP)
Like if it happened right now? Are nukes off limits. no Nato?
The US would sink the entire Russian navy with minimal losses, and knock out every oil pipeline that wasn't in the absolute center of Asia. But no invasion of Russian could occur on the European side, without at least a year of build up.
We could maybe take Vladivostok, but why?
If nukes are on the table, the whole thing would get far more silly. But America would win just because the Russian nukes would mostly kill black and brown people. Whereas the rus ethnic group lives primarily in like three dense regions in Russia. And would receive the most nukes.

>>508580877 (OP)
Define "win"
US could degrade Russian military capability beyond uselessness, but they couldn't hold Russian territory effectively long-term. We'd also shit all over their economy if we were actually at war, but Russians are used to being poor so idk that that matters.
My country is full of comfy fags, so the burden of a real war with Russia would probably make us whine and bitch and kill ourselves. But Russia wouldn't be putting boots on the ground in the continental US, their population centers are on their European front and they'd be occupied with NATO warmongers.

>>508581904
ccp india alliance? What are you smoking?

>>508580877 (OP)
Russia will lose. Because corrupted shithole.
US won't win. They'll regret the moment they set foot on this cursed land. And you can't defeat Russia without troops on the ground.
So there you go.

>>508582398
A bunch of bradleys demolished your army + the US involved = they have full control of the skies

>>508581904
I dont think those alliances you've drawn would hold up
India-russia makes way more sense if we dont cuck out to american threats and china-pakistan ties are way more realistic, dont know how much closer russia-china have actually gotten since the Ukraine war started to that's another thing to note

>>508581960
83% of americans live in urban areas compared to 75% of russians
the population is dispersed over a larger area which is why your map, excluding major cities, presumably looks flatter than one of america
sadly most russians you could call White, if being generous, live in a string of cities (excluding st petersburg) following the trans-siberian railway, which you can make out in your map
but many survivors on both sides would also survive a nuclear winter because you're both net exporters of fossil fuels
at least the number of muslims in russia would tank along with the number of spicnigs in america
>WASPs
i hope some of you guys make it, because england won't

>>508580993

> meme flag


Kys

I love seeing a bunch of browns who can’t master plumbing or basic waste disposal suddenly become militaristic gigachads.

F-35 and THAAD are overrated anyway but they still better than su-57 and s-400 i think? So USA “win”


But if we take nukes into picture, everyone lose

>>508580877 (OP)
No one said jews. This board is dead

>>508582881
> But if we take nukes into picture, everyone lose

Nuclear war is beneficial to the USA. It would make the US population 90% white after the cities are obliterated.

>>508582687
We're also glad for americucks to be fighting for the right of the corporations and foreign interests that run and own their country
It leaves the rest of us with time on our hands to do other things

>>508583043
please show me the normie reading this thread who doesn't understand that it's the jews every single time
we're not reaching a new audience by naming the jew here

>>508582881
S-400 is a generation ahead of THAAD.

>>508583181
Your only one life was wasted as a jeet.
It’s better to be dead than live as a jeet.

>>508580877 (OP)
World

>>508580877 (OP)
They're starting project bluebeam, whatever you do, do not board the ships, frens.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uY_xgaPRYxA

>>508581111
>Whose side is Israel on?
Whichever side wants to kill the most whites on the frontlines.

>>508583525
Memeflag. kys

>>508580877 (OP)
USA there is no contest here. They could destroy every major city without even using nukes and completely cripple Russia with no chance of recovery even given a century.

>>508583521
>S-400
exoatmospheric interception is not within the real capabilities of an "S-400" or the 40N6

>>508583525
the only good thing an indian can do for the world is introduce lycenkoism to india
the more dead or skeletal jeets the better for everyone

>>508580877 (OP)
In order for it to even be close, we would have to go back 50 years in time to where the USSR is at its peak point in power, and even then it would be a good match-up. The USA is the only nation in the world that can project power.

>>508580877 (OP)
Kikes.

>>508582398
You don't even have to defeat Russia, Russia is currently a smoldering corpse.
What happens if you knock all their power stations offline, and delete their oil infrastructure? We can do that without landing troops on the ground.

>>508580877 (OP)
Here's a clip of the Ukrainians breaching the russian border. The border guards literally waved white flags
https://files.catbox.moe/0a0cam.mp4
Here they are fleeing.
https://files.catbox.moe/47gtt5.mp4
I think ALL of NATO allied would do fine.
Reminder:
Ukraine just now got their first radar plane. They've been fighting a massively asymmetrically dis-advantaged war this whole time, in every aspect. And they will end this still with kiev not being taken, when russia should have literally taken kiev in 3 days.

>>508583521
is that why it has done absolutely fuck all in ukraien and iran?

>>508584111
anon, they don't have infrastructure

>>508583869
Did you get a license yet to say that guv?

>>508580877 (OP)
Discounting EU and China, Russia cam't do much while the US can land in Russian Siberian coast and get bogged down by unbelievably shitty supply lines, terrible climate and terrain and local troops accustomed to the region. Land on European part of Russia would be a suicide mission.
Including everyone else is a pointless endeavour as there is no way to account dor all of the variables.

>>508584268
the government only cares about tweets where the user's government name is pasted on their profile

>>508584208
Not much, and they can't afford the upkeep on what they do have.

>>508580877 (OP)
Hmmmm
Russia ( humans ) vs US ( Jews )

>>508580877 (OP)
>If it comes down to usa vs russia, who will win?
israel

>>508584615
This

Jeet makes post, half of the replies ignore post and flame jeet instead and the other half is jeet trying to defend himself kek

>>508584458
The guys who're not even allowed to buy kitchen knives should refrain from posting in discussion threads concerned with military prowess

>>508584805
you have to have a national average IQ above 80 to post here

>>508584899
Try again
Maybe you'll land a hit that'll save the sun from setting on the great british empire this time

>>508583852
>exoatmospheric interception
Show me one that THAAD took out in space.
Must be a spectacular sight.
>>508584202
The only S-400s in Iran are protecting the nuclear power plants that Russia is operating and building. They weren't attacked.

>>508580877 (OP)
The US isn't (nor wouldn't be getting) bogged down in Mexico 4 years into their 2 week special military operation so this is a stupid question OP. Western Europe alone would steamroll the Russian military in a conventional war without help from the US so it's a given Burgers alone would fuck Vatniks up if no nukes were involved.

>>508582324
>Whereas the rus ethnic group lives primarily in like three dense regions in Russia

Thats only like 15-18% of thier population dummy

>>508584805
the guys who shit in the street should refrain from talking to humans.

>>508585172
>try again
why?
>sun setting
we already gave away the chagos islands

>>508583319
Stop replying to 1pbid pajeet threads then retarded faggot

No one

Nukes will fly and that'll be the end of it

Russia has no feasible plan to invade the usa and usa cannot take Russia in a ground war

>>508584429
>unironic cargo cultist turdie
Turks are such an embarrassment.

>>508582577
>75% of russians
You tranny faggot shills will just repeat any lie wont you

>>508584784
Its a shame really, I thought there'd be more people talking about stuff rather than bitching
But I'm not op, who just made a single post here and is most likely a paid shill trynna to slide a thread meant to expose kikes for being kikes

>>508585539
good argument

>>508585425
Guys born to suck Israels cock for breakfast, lunch and dinner should refrain from giving others pointers

>>508585555
>I thought there'd be more people talking about stuff rather than bitching
this should tell you how much the rest of the world hates you. if you fucks would stay in india it wouldnt be this way but you literally shit up the entire world

>>508585429
Good, now simmer down and sink out of existence like your country has

>>508585681
Did you take time off from sucking a kikes cock to write that out?
They dont like it when their slaves get uppity goy

>>508585723
why?

>>508585809
>>508585645
you know what jeet, youre alright, very based.

>>508585501
>cargo cultist
I never mentioned any systems, equipment or anything approaching what a cargo cult is you dumb fucking nigger.

>>508585884
dont mind him, hes a zoomer who just watched, guns germs and steel and wants to feel smart

>>508585555
Nice digits Patel, I would advise getting a VPN in the future. Cheers!

>>508585501
There's more Turkic blood in Germany now than there was ever in the whole Balkans so mind your tongue.

>>508585818
Damn. Are you really what 80+ IQ looks like? Feels like I'm talking to an inbred hillbilly with an extra chromosome

>>508582366
>but they couldn't hold Russian territory effectively long-term
Of course they could. Russia isn't some mountainous terrain with caves full of 25 year old fanatical insurgents. The population is concentrated on the peripheral of Europe and it's mostly geriatric alcoholics and with a dwindling number of apathetic young people.

>>508585884
>russia stronk ook ook
Cargo cultist turdie lmao

>>508581380
You regards REALLY overestimate the strength of nukes. 5k nukes isn't enough to level 1% of the US, let alone the earth.

>>508580877 (OP)
They'll likely never clash because of various weapons that would be used in that war (not only nukes) but US would win if they did. Russia's doctrine is to make that idea too expensive for them to execute.

>>508586047
>sir! i'm worth your time! spend more than 10 seconds on your post when replying to me!

>>508585882
Meh, most of indian posters ive seen on here are either retards, cp distributors, or straight up paid shills
I won't piss on them if they had crawled across the thar desert without water for a week straight
You're alright too. Give em hell and try not dying for the kikes

>>508585617
11 posts of lies
You are just a faggot shill
The lowest form of life
20% of Russians live in cities.
Your lies cant change that.

Pretty ingenious for NATO to hire suicidal troons to shill for the end of the world

>>508586045
>Germany
Open your turkic slanted eyes, Abdul.

also, russia might give you buckwheat or HIV, but they'll never get you a German visa lol

>>508586292
>Open your turkic slanted eyes, Abdul.
And you think what happens in Germany doesn't concern you?
>also, russia might give you buckwheat or HIV, but they'll never get you a German visa lol
What?
Fuck off you dumb animal. You're most probably some worthless eastern European fuck like a Pole anyways.

nigga who do you think? what a dumb fucking pointless FAGGOT thread bro

>>508585965
I wish I was a zoomer
I'd have way more hope left

>>508586191
You are the dumbest piece of shit I have ever seen here. The soot kicked up would cut off 70% of all sunlights and drop temps 50 degree f for 7 to 12 years. Over 70% of the worlds population will starve to death.

>>508586260
>20% of russians live in cities

>>508586237
Damn nigga, now I feel sad for your bad spawn rng. I hope you make it out of the bucket of crabs. You are one of the good ones, being self aware is a virtue not many are blessed with.

>>508580877 (OP)
their nuclear triads make sure that there won't be winners between the two

>>508581123
typical representative of intellectual majority (idiot)

>>508586191
You'd be releasing diseases on each other which can actually a large part of the population unlike meme corona. It's not only nukes. US is sitting on a lot of high-tech weapons and while Russia is much poorer I wouldn't put it past them to develop some deterrance measures of their own.

>>508585973
Damn, what a waste of quads
Dont care for a vpn, I may not be the most pro-indian person out there, but I'm not ashamed to hide who I am

>>508580877 (OP)
we as a collective are already conquered
we have no will to fight

>>508586592
agreed. this guy is /ourjeet

>>508586627
>memeflag
>ad hom attack as opposed to actually refuting my point (you can't)
opinion discarded

>>508586592
I tried. Couldn't get out on my own without sucking off a thousand peoples dick in the process.
Pretty sure I'm meant to die here

>>508580877 (OP)

>>508586260
Kek who the fuck is this dumb nigger? just that amount live in Peterburg and Moscow.

>>508580993
Both Russia and US have neglected their nukes over the past few decades as likelihood of using them went down after cold war and so did the preparedness, less skills and knowledge got passed down and became more theoretical etc. only in Russia's case they have such bad corruption they probably even have pilfered parts sold on the black market or underfunded so someone in the Duma can get another superyacht in Spain, also the huge brain drain problem so less of a talent pool there, you don't want dim people running your nuke program, probably why their nuke modernisation program is so badly delayed, and contracts there probably handed over to Duma member or ruling elite's retarded friend/cousin

>>508585238
>>Show me one that THAAD took out in space.
retarded nigger, there's no less than three within the last two weeks
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/grAxZQpYReI

>>508580877 (OP)
No one, nigger. Both sides have 4k nukes each and plenty of unstoppable delivery mechanisms.

>>508587356
Your own video says;
>in upper atmosphere

>1 post by this ID
>questionthread

>>508587169
The combined pop of moscow and st. Petersburg is 18.5 million or so, retard

>>508586690
Ironically, if Russia nuked the US, the big cities dying would make the country 85% White and 70% right-wing. The aftermath would truly make America great (White) again.

>>508587609
https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1933702196509495335
attached is over jordan as well

>>508587169
Seems you are dumber than a nigger

WIKI
>Note that the sixteen largest cities have a total population of 35,509,177, or roughly 24.1% of the country's total population.

>>508587704
the population of the moscow metropolitan area is 21.5 million plus 6.4 million in the st petersburg metropolitan area
that gets you 20% of the population

>>508586678

>>508587293
>Both Russia and US have neglected their nukes
Russia modernized their missile forces in the 00-10's. USA is only starting now. And were pretty broke right now so we keep delaying it or cutting.

>>508586678
>>508588009
It would be truly great if you guys learned how to love yourselves instead of projecting Muslim hatred into sympathy for jews.

>>508581111
america
israel has been friends with america since forever

>>508587994
You are a lying piece of shit faggot paid to be here.
>75% live in cities
I JUST PROVED ITS UNDER 25%

>Moscow's 2025 population is now estimated at 12,737,400.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/russia/moscow

>>508580877 (OP)
It depends on the theater. We can’t beat them in Ukraine, for example. We would probably struggle in the Baltics even. Russia would likely hit a wall if they tried some suwalki gap shenanigans.
A naval battle anywhere between Russia and the U.S. would probably be total US domination.
Air battles would probably be more competitive, depending on the area and what Radars and AD might be present.
>tl;dr it all depends on the theater and mode of fighting

>>508587854
Okay that looks more like it.

They'll both lose. USA will probably lose harder, since they have more to lose.

>>508580877 (OP)
but that won't happen, the US is mainly competing economically with China

>>508587293
I'd say that's a sector of their weapon development that suffered the least solely because they think America would go against them if they calculated that Russia wouldn't do enough damage back.
Anyways only time will tell, so far Americans are not carefree about the nuke issue so they think Russia could fight back.
They'll probably never fight each other while they're great powers.

Usa has more tech but ziggers got that zombie in them

>>508588184
i said 75% live in urban areas
you only 20% live in cities
as georgia anon pointed out, 20% live in the moscow and st petersburg regions alone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_metropolitan_area
>with a population of around 21.5 million
you're only counting the city of moscow itself; please consult picrel

>>508588142
I hate both Jews and Muslims equally, and Hindus and other minorities with an equal fervor when I have the time off
As for geopolitical alignments, we technically were way more close to Iran than what others think, look up recent india-iran agreements we had going
Trade-wise, we had way better relations with Iran than Israel iirc, Iran's oil won over Israel tech
The sympathy for Jews against Muslims is mainly peddled as anathema for the retards in the country who can barely get to 4 when asked what 2+2 is

>>508588816
>please consult picrel
Is that even an agglomeration? Oblast is a whole province. You can't say all of those people live in capital unless I'm somehow wrong.
>20% live in the moscow and st petersburg regions
But not in the city. Honestly it's not as centralised as other countries. I think mine is higher up.

>>508589422
>>508588142
Dunno why the ID changed, maybe I went from WiFi to mobile

>>508588816
You are a faggot here to lie
>Oy vey look at this urban Moscow Oblast

Both would win after city degenerates get vaporized and they rebuild civilisation without commies and niggers

Funny how only Russia is reporting on this new study.

>https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/adcfb5

>After soot injection, precipitation, air temperature, and solar radiation decreased immediately compared to the control scenario, making maize harvested areas drier, colder, and darker (figure 1). The meteorological variables were averaged for the global rainfed maize areas, and since the Northern Hemisphere has more area dedicated to maize, the spatially averaged variables are biased showing higher air temperature and solar radiation in the northern summer. The extent and duration of these effects relate to the amount of soot injected. For the most devastating 150 Tg scenario, precipitation and solar radiation decrease by as much as 70% globally, and air temperature drops by over 15∘C a few years after the disruption. Soot in the stratosphere absorbs solar radiation and heats the stratosphere helping deplete O3. Simultaneously, soot absorbs UV-B radiation thus shielding the surface from exposure. In the 5 Tg regional war scenario, the shielding effect of soot dominates soon after the war, reducing UV-B radiation. About one year later, the depletion of O3 and the deposition of the soot allow UV-B radiation to reach the Earth surface at levels above those of the control scenario. UV-B radiation returns to pre-disruption levels after six years. In contrast, in the 150 Tg global war scenario, UV-B radiation initially decreases significantly due to soot absorption, but after six years, UV-B radiation levels surpass the control as soot decreases and the depleted O3 allows the transmission of UV-B radiation. The UV-B levels would peak in Years 8 and 9.

>>508587704
>>508587905
>niggerbrains doesn't consider metropolitan areas
that's all one would need to know about your intellect. 35 million is situated in 7 metropolitan areas only. there are currently 300+ settlements in Russia with population of 50k and more. without counting metropolitan areas outside of those 7, it already goes above 95 million by rough estimates. yes I looked em up and counted because that's how much I hate dumb niggers like you.

>>508589484
they're two different federal subjects, but the moscow metropolitan area (moscow and moscow oblast combined) is very urban

>>508589678
how much do they pay you to lie on the internet while calling everyone a liar?
are you going to pretend the 8.5 million people around moscow live in sparsely distributed sheds?

>>508590110
you are talking to nafo bots which makes you dumber than them
they won with every (You)

>>508580877 (OP).

I side with the US, country loyalty comes first. Metawise this scenario seems impossible, for both countries would be buddies in a real metasense cuz both are Rightists, and would gladly fight China altogether instead. So joke's on you India.

>>508590110
If they nuked the 16 largest cities they would kill 24% of the population. You are a faggot paid to come here and shill for WW3.

What a disgusting piece of shit you are. I already proved you are a lying piece of shit

i have noticed over the years that paid shills are always the first to accuse others of lying, shilling, or glowing

>>508590443
oh I didn't realise you were paid per (you). yeah alright consider this one charity from me. acting like a total retard must be taxing on your nerves after all.

>>508590227
Now you could have posted the first map that comes up in a search but that would have proven you are a cocksucking liar

>>508590619
Ok faggot

>An area is typically classified as urban if it has a population density of at least 1,500 inhabitants per square kilometer.

>>508580877 (OP)
Nobody since 20k nukes would end life on earth Wich is why all that bullshit about war is stupid
The only people stupid enough to start a nuclear war are Jews because they Workship a satanic volcano deamon and they think moloch chose them as a people to help in ending human life on earth

>>508590789
i posted the first pic on the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_metropolitan_area
and your pic doesn't change anything
that's 21.5 million people in the moscow metropolitan area
>moscow oblast has low population density; nobody lives there
>no! don't include moscow oblast in the count! too many people live there!
you can't have it both ways

>>508580877 (OP)
Brazil.
If Russia vs. USA ever happens... all of them and their 'frens' are going to be blown to pieces, irreparably.
That would be insane.

>>508591527
You tranny faggots really stick out here

>>508592902
i accept your concession