>Referring to the worst-case scenario in which the United States, under the Taiwan Relations Act, is obliged to support or even defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese attack, Rutte said that NATO, as an alliance, has no "opt-out" option.

>The Chinese, however, will make sure that their partner Russia "keeps us busy here [in Europe]" if they "try anything with Taiwan," he said.

>"That is one of the reasons why we have to stand ready, and we cannot be naive," he said, adding that "extra defense spending is important."

are evropeans ready to fight China for whatever reason?

>>508625094 (OP)
Nobody is ready to fight China. Except the last guy who kicked their ass, Vietnam.

>>508625094 (OP)
taiwan is literally china
has always been will always be

pretty sure that if China decides to invade Taiwan the US is not gonna do shit besides sanctions and even those will probably dissipate, they sure as fuck aren't going to try and destroy China or even actively protect Taiwan

maybe I am wrong who knows

>>508625094 (OP)
The fuck is Europe going to do against China?

>>508625638
My favorite part is how just few days ago israel and USA attacked iran and there were crickets from NATO.
But Taiwan?
We gotta defend that shit and preemptively accuse China of escalation

>>508625094 (OP)
A world without jews jeets arabs chinks russians and niggers would be Utopia.

Xi33

>>508626140
whos speaking

>>508625989
The amount of kikery that EU is full of is sickening, really

>>508626217
Oh no a russian made a half ass agitprop for 4chan what will I do

>>508625532
The US is planning to use Philippines, Japan and Taiwan as proxies against China. That means the US gives missiles to the Philippines, the Philippines launches the missiles against China and then get hit back by China. So the US can basically bomb China without being bombed. Poor Pinoys get bombed instead :-). More or less the same happens to Taiwan and Japan. It is the trick we saw with Ukraine or Israel.

>>508625638
Nothing, he admits it. They will "have to be ready" for Russia. Which means they will send thoughts and prayers as Siemens opens up yet another new big plant in China.

>>508625638
Shup up dumbfuckistani! You wouldn't belive how strongly worded the letter will be - our best bureaucrats have been drafting it for years now!

On a more serious note: bitch at China and when that wont work bitch at you to do something.

>>508626404

>>508625989
Wait you're confused that the biggest NATO power attacked an adversary and NATO didn't defend Iran? How are you confused, it makes perfect sense. Why didn't Belarus invade Ukraine when Russia started the SMO to protect Ukraine? It's the same STUPID question after all.

>>508625223
India is ready to liberate several provinces including Tibet.
Vietnam has several border issues and would benefit greatly from a collapsing China. North Korea is parasitic and would take advantage of it. The Philippines which has a large population and Japan would also benefit from it.
The U.S will chicken out last moment, and sacrifice some Marines to "commit" to "defending" Taiwan. In which the Marines will actually hold out being Marines, and suddenly the U.S will smell weakness emboldening the politicians.

>>508625638
If the US is busy supporting allies in the indopacific, who will fight Russia? Poland, Germany, France, the Uk, the Baltic States, basically the EU (except for Italy), will fight Russia. The war is the West (excetp for Italy) against Russia+China

>>508626556
pretty big cope considering every day more of you subhumans die. But that's why a world with you russians, niggers, jews, jeets chinks arabs will be Utopia. No more of this retardation. Just pure peace and quiet

>>508626585
All NATO countries were sucking israel dick.
All while Israel bombed and killed iranians.
I'm not confused I'm enraged over the level of hypocrisy.

>>508625638
China doesn't have ability to do much at the moment. They can't destroy Taiwan because they want to occupy it but they can't occupy it because their army and navy are very bad and the russians are still trapped in Ukraine

Those pussy ass blue balled chicken livered GAYTO faggots would get curb stomped then eaten up by Chinks.

>>508626404
>Russian made
It existed long before we came
>agitprop
Чoмy нe нa yкpaïнi бpaт?

>>508626871
It is not hypocrisy, it is called realism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relations)

>>508626871
because you're russian and your entire life is just being butthurt and dying in a trench forgotten.

>>508627038
no it didn't it appeared when your retarded war started because you have serious complex about Poland and we laugh and mock you and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>508626871
>All NATO countries were sucking israel dick.
>All while Israel bombed and killed iranians.
Yes Iran isn't in their sphere. Whereas Israel is. There's no hypocrisy. How can Russia prosecute its SMO and yet complain about Gaza?

>>508627144
their brains don't work like that. russians, jeets niggers jews chinks arabs they're all the same

>>508625223
Nah its looking like Vietnam is fine with being friends with China. The only one getting uppity is Philippines.

>>508627144
>in their sphere
NATO is european defense alliance created to oppose USSR you dumb niggermutt. It has nothing to do with israel.
It was one country attacking the other and targeting nuclear facilities that could lead to gigantic disaster of unimaginable scale?
You worthless mongoloid bitch goddamn

>508626970
Honestly you stupid.

>>508627389
so much salt and seethe

>>508625094 (OP)
Not concerned enough to do literally anything

>>508625094 (OP)
There is a Western plan to regain world domination, like the West enjoyed in the 1990s after the USSR was defeated.
Within five or ten years, the entire West, and maybe Japan and South Korea too, will try to regime change both Russia and China (and of course North Korea).
Achieving this would bring the West absolute world domination for a long time to come, as there would be no possible rival to Western power.

>>508627389
>>in their sphere
>NATO is european defense alliance created to oppose USSR
Yes, originally. Now it's a mutual defense pact against Russia and its sphere.

>It has nothing to do with israel.
Israel was created by Britain. The second partner in NATO.

>It was one country attacking the other and targeting nuclear facilities that could lead to gigantic disaster of unimaginable scale?
Nah nothing happened. Heck Iranians are claiming nothing was damaged even a tiny bit. But I can tell they're lying because of how their shills are seething and crying online lol.

>You worthless mongoloid bitch goddamn
So let's rewind - should Belarus have stopped Russia from invading Ukraine? Because you're asking essentially the same question.

>>508627506
it could be worse than USA nuking japs for no reason, easily.
It could destabilize the world on a grand scale creating multiple crises that would be unresolved for decades.
And yet euniggers were sucking israel dick while it commited the most blanat unprovoked nuclear terror of modern history

>>508626414
Japan is not joining the war. Unless attacked by China first. That is the current plan for the Philippines but just look at this map. Nothing in the Philippines will survive if they decide to join the war.
What will happen is that China will perform customs on Taiwan, and after a few weeks Taiwan bends the knee.

>>508625094 (OP)
1. Taiwan Relations Act does not oblige the US to directly defend Taiwan, it only obliges the US to sell armaments to Taiwan

2. NATO Article 5 does not oblige NATO members to assist the US in wars unrelated to NATO

3. NATO Article 5 and 6 specifically says that NATO mutual defense is geographically limited to Europe, North America and a few other regions

>>508627698
I'm not reading anymore your trash you dumb uninformed bitch nigger, go read a fucking book

>>508625094 (OP)
>Be China
>Do nothing
>Israel’s pet dogs are barking at you
>oh fuck

>>508627700
nobody cares about israel or iran. nobody cares if those people die just like nobody cares when your people die. you're the world's cancer

>>508627122
Don't try and go down that road lol 9/10 posts I see on here coming from your flag is about Russian in some way shape or form

>>508627886
go back to your fucking toilets, this is way over your head

>thread about China and NATO
>10 pbtid Polish flag seething about Russia

>>508628018
you chinped out because the burger cucked you as they always do and per usual default into forced agitprop about Poland meanwhile we laugh at you and you continue to get blown up and die

>>508628151
>another nigger appears just as his nigger friend loses the thread
>immediate seethe about Poland
Pottery

>>508627855
Why bother even typing words when you can't make sense? You failed here today.

>>508626585
Just because a country is a member of NATO does not mean it cannot or should not oppose US aggression

>>508628281
you have zero knowledge of the subject, what is the point of talking?
You can not comprehend what could happen and what can still happen

>>508628419
reddit tier whining at this point

>>508625094 (OP)
> Translation: We will send our people to fight for Taiwan at the behest of Trump, because we are Atlanticist cucks.

>>508625638
Rutte is saying he wants to send Europeans to fight for US interests in Taiwan.

>>508628419
>You can not comprehend what could happen and what can still happen
Nothing at all. What can Iran do? Nothing much more than they're doing, firing a few missiles at Israel in a trickle now that they've run low or whatever. It's literally not a problem for anybody outside the region. And inside the region? Well you know... there are people working to bring forth Armageddon and they're gonna do it.

>>508627721
Filipinos are used to living in shifty conditions. Just look at pictures from any typhoon aftermath in Luzon. The flips are all laughing and smiling. They do not give a fuck. The peasants and the rich in the Philippines do not like the Chinese. The Philippines is a massive archipelago with about 100 million people. To invade would be a quagmire in the modern era. Sure, you could kill everyone in Manilla, but what about Mindanao, Panay, Samar and Negros? The flips love basketball and American culture. Sure, theyre lazy and messy but so are the chinks.

>>508627673
>Western plan to regain world domination
lmao. not happening.

>>508627812
DeLuyen, Rutte, Meloni, Starmer, Kristoferson, Stubb are all subservient Atlanticists who will do whatever Trump tells them to.

>>508627144
It's hypocrisy because the arguments are usually based on supposed universal principles such as the UN charter or nuclear non-proliferation.

>>508628759
so far the nigger alliance has failed in every location
>south africa
Failed state
>Russia war
Total disaster no end in sight
>Syria
Assad abandoned by his own men and defeated
>Iran
Flopped and nothing came of it despite their red flags or whatever

>>508625638
Nothing. Just lying to Stumpf to "support" you.

>>508628676
>Rutte is saying he wants to send Europeans to fight for US interests in Taiwan.
This is exactly it.
There is a coordinated war plan by all the old powers, i.e. the West, to take down Russia and China and therefore control the world.
If the plan succeeds, the question will be how to divide up the spoils. Of course the US will try to take almost all of the spoils for itself and Europe will be very butthurt.

>>508628759
The Western powers are going to try.
They'll try to regime change both Russia and China through proxy wars, sanctions, and other means.
The world will not have peace again for a long time.

>>508625094 (OP)
>for whatever reason
YOU MEAN THE REASON
TOTAL GLOBAL DOMINATION

CHYNA IS THE ONE WAR WORTH FIGHTING

R*SSIA WAS ALREADY BEAT IN THE COLD WAR

>>508626414
I'm beginning to realise how essential the USSR was to keep US from constantly chimping out, at least they made them bleed in wars US directly entered unlike now.

>>508630012
That's because you're a landless migrant with no concept of fatherland

>>508630159
What the fuck are you even blabbering on about.

>>508626414
Usa want India to fight China

>>508626871
Norway did not.

>>508625094 (OP)
Where can I move to avoid WW3 and how much time left?

>>508630955
I am hoping that nz or south america will be safe.

>>508626414
japan will not dare to touch china. if china gets into a war with japan chinese people will DEMAND the total nuclear nuking of the whole of japan and total genocide of every jap. anyone doubting this underestimates the level of hatred chinese have for japs. japs know they will be harmed badly to the point of extinction if they get involved in any war with china over taiwan.

>>508625223
>vietnam will save us
what is the basis for this belief?

>>508631837
New Zealand has all the rich people bunkers no?
At least there was talk on here about them going there to escape.
I'm not rich enough to go there though so my best bet is a small Russian village. Need to go somewhere cold too, can't take the heat in Asian regions that are poor enough for me.

>>508631926
THATS WHY ITS EXISTENTIAL FOR JAPAN

IT WILL GO HOT EVENTUALLY

BETTER DEAL WITH CHYNA SOONER THAN LATER

>>508626140

Agreed. Throw Poles in there too.

>>508625223

>Except the last guy who kicked their ass, Vietnam

Yeah brutal ass kicking. How did China ever recover from that one?

>>508625223
china took over vietnam without firing a shot via its weak spots, its financial system and its pervasive corruption due to secret society/xa hoi den triad mafias

back in the 2010s Vietnam made a stink about keeping the Spratley islands that China was starting to build bases on, sort of a "los malvinas son argentinas" thing, and China in return basically threatened to collapse Vietnam's entire banking system which were predictably hollowed out by decades of corruption and insider dealing (esp the state-owned banks involved in agribusiness and export-import)

all of a sudden, the Viet government got real quiet, and China got their islands

one of my favorite moments of the 8-odd years i lived in vietnam was when i was out on an island off the coast of central vietnam, where the Viet navy had a presence. i was drinking with a bunch of ex-navy at my hotel and asked them if they thought the islands really belonged to vietnam like all the propaganda said. they all started laughing at me and said, basically, "hell no! China owns vietnam. we just lie about it for propaganda. they could take over hanoi from the Mong Cai border crossing in literally 12 hours."

>>508633052
china acknowledged 250k casualties, the real number is closer to half a million and they were only fighting vietnamese border militias

>>508633052
AMERICA WON LITERALLY EVERY BATTLE IN VIETNAM INCLUDING THE BIG ONE

CHYNA IS EXTREMELY FRAGILE THEY CAN BARELY HANDLE WESTERN SANCTIONS
LET ALONE LOSING THEIR CHINESIUM BOATS IN THE TAIWAN STRAIT

>>508632158
whatever it may be, keep yourself safe and ok from zog and drafts my fren.

>>508632395
>>508631926
>>508626414
The moment China invades Taiwan, Japan will tell the US to absolutely fuck off and don't use the Okinawa bases for attacking, that they can be only used in Japanese defense.

Who killed Jesus and are contrary to all men?

Jews are against all men!

Go to “1 Thessalonians 2:14-15” (KJV).

https://x.com/VoteHarrisOut/status/1937006206444286312

>>508633310

Not even close to true

Jews fully control the Russian, Chinese, and US Governments, and have for more than a century.

Look at the image on this German Magazine cover from 1943. It is now 2025 and the Jewish Octopus is ready to start World War 3.

World War 3 will make the Goyim yearn and clamor for a peace-ensuring One World Government, which happens to be run by Satanic Jews.

As Mel Gibson once said, Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.

>>508627292
no they are playing the jew now trying to be the middleman between the US and China

>>508625223
kicked their ass so hard that China is still occupying Vietnam clay and damming up their rivers

>>508633505
>>508633323
>>508631837
>>508626414
China will take Taiwan with Australia's help

China loves Australia and Australia will be under Chinese protectorate in the future

>>508625094 (OP)
yeah, turns out there's a really simple way for NATO to not be involved in a Chinese civil war

>>508633894
VERY AMBITIOUS CHANG

HOWEVER

Australian flag is small because it's a little country with little population (25m) and no army or threat to China but China loooves Australia a lot thats why it buys beef and minerals from them, supports their local economy and visits them all the time with ships patrolling their coasts. If you touch Australia, you touch China.

>>508634182
i know youre a chink and all

and i know over 30% of Aus GDP is basically owned by china not to include land and minerals (last i looked its probably more)

but i will be impressed if you manage to dupe them into that

>>508634110
>Stealth bombers
China can counter these

The entirety of China's army was engineered to counter the US and protect Chinese & Australian coasts.
It's probably the only country in the world that has the technology to wage a full war against the US on equal foot

https://youtu.be/Kqk_H0Jka-A?si=ZVFGVBUx-lszR2P-

>>508625094 (OP)
come on Nato sisters. not even muh avengers can fight china. lets just go back to isolationism. Like come on who gives a fuck about taiwan.

>>508634597
YOU CANT COUNTER SHIT CHANG
AMERICA HAS ENOUGH PLANES TO LEVEL CHYNA

CHYNESE EXPANSIONISM IS NOT AT ALL POPULAR WITH ANY OF CHYNAS NEIGHBORS
BUT ITS GOOD YOUR PAST YOUR CONCEALMENT PHASE
TAKE YER SWING CHANG

So they are admitting it is an 'Alliance' now and not a 'Defensive Pact'

>>508635141
ideally, once the world starts to burn, we anglo saxons take the opportunity to do some pest control. the entire worldwide zog apparatuses relies on good little anglo goys to die in battle for their respective national banks.

>>508634951
Don't underestimate the fact that the american army is filled with low IQ niggers that could chimp out at any moment and have the entire platoon killed

>>508633505
Lol what kind of Jap cope is this?

>>508627721
America has no counter to this

>>508635611
literally japan is bankrupt. financiers call it a "zombie economy," paying for their own national defense is out of the question. the will bend to ZOG strong arming and or negotiation, same way a-rab countries did in the middle east diring the last bullshit war for Israel

i think this chinaman is either very yound and delusional, or tripping balls on some kinda "traditional medicine"

>>508635611
>>508635942
You think Japan, literally China's neighbor and one of their largest trade partners, will get involved for Taiwan? That they will let American planes take off from Okinawa to bomb China?

lol, lmao. If something it will be the final push for Japan to kick out the Americans for good

>>508636383
no what im saying is all these sweeping generalizations you keep making lead me to believe you are very, very young

>>508625094 (OP)
but if nato builds weapons it is only for self defense ofcourse. this is the secretary general undermining nato's entire narrative. lies lies lies

>>508627046
Hardly. The EU is completely subservient to the US foreign policy regardless of the consequences it has for Europe.
You supported the NATO campaign in Libya which lead to the refugee crisis, and you cut yourself off from Russia energy and accelerated your de-industrialization. There is no self-interest here.

>>508637029
self-interest of the european elites. the negative consequences aren't bad enough yet

>>508625094 (OP)
I'm just wondering how I can fight on all three fronts at once, versus russia, is--I mean iran, and china.
can the government clone me but tie my experiences together into a unified mind so I can feel being killed in all three places. thanks.
also, is a kike somewhere going to steal my throwaway concept, that of a single mind experiencing multiple bodies and then it into a book, film, series and then reality, while giving me none of the credit?
thanks.
thanks.

>>508626709
italy is very cozy with china lately. we'll likely invade you just for told time sake and reminde you who rome his

>>508633862

I mean it wasn’t a real war.

America, China and North Korea were supporting the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

Vietnam and the USSR were trying to overthrow the Khmer Rouge.

The United States, which already had sanctions in place against Vietnam, convinced other countries of the United Nations to deprive Vietnam and the People's Republic of Kampuchea (Vietnam’s puppet Cambodian government that they installed after overthrowing the KR) of much-needed funds by denying them membership to major international organizations such as the World Bank, the Asian Development Bank and the International Monetary Fund. China invaded and captured some border cities in Northern Vietnam. After occupying them for a few weeks they went home and declared victory and said that they hoped Vietnam learned their lesson and would stop fucking around in Cambodia.