Why can't the Himba people of Namibia tell the difference between green and blue?
>b-but color is a social construct because there's no blue in their culture or no word for it specifically
What color is the sky?
https://gondwana-collection.com/blog/how-do-namibian-himbas-see-colour

>>508626555 (OP)
because niggers are dumb. nice trips by the way

>>508626555 (OP)
wasn't that a thing in Japan historically aswell?
also in art of war sun tzu said: There are not more than five primary colors (blue, yellow, red, white, and black), yet in combination they produce more hues than can ever been seen.
Some people groups might just have thought that green is an offshoot of blue or sth idk

>>508626555 (OP)
vietnam too (blue is a subset of green in the vietnamese language- "green" = mau xanh "blue" = mau xanh da troi)

imo it's a great example of how language and culture influence perception

the CIA has been using this backdoor in human consciousness to divide and conquer the american population post-Occupy by creating different "reality tunnels" using news media (think of the difference between NBC Rachel Maddow boomers and Fox News Hannity boomers) and social media algorithms where people have their ideologies and interpretations of news events reinforced

>>508626555 (OP)
It's about language. If you do not have a word for green as distinct color from blue you can even tell them apart in your senses, but when you store this information on your mental models, it's filed under "bluegreen" color. So as soon as the stimuli is gone, your memory says it was "bluegreen".

That is why they go thru so much lengths to control language. Sapir Whorf hypothesis.

>>508626555 (OP)
Ancient greeks didn't have a concept of blue either

>>508626555 (OP)
How do they have such nice teeth thou?

>>508627995
No sugar.

>>508627779
In my language the word for tomrrow is the same as the word for yesterday, we're not retarded niggers though because the meaning is inferred through the context of what is being asked/said.

>>508627995
No sugar

>>508626994
Thanks. And not all of us are, just the Himba people

>>508628067
Okay, but yesterday/tomorrow is meaningfully different. Who gives a fuck about the distinction between green and blue? How does that affect my life personally? How does it affect the life of Namibian niggers? In your mental model, you file them differently, but those niggers clearly don't.

>>508627486
Ancients greeks too, they thought the sea was the colour of wine.

>>508626555 (OP)
The sky is bronze colored, anon.

>>508626555 (OP)
Even if false, probably not compatible with societal progress.

>>508626555 (OP)
>>508627486
I understand that ancient Greeks didn't distinguish blue and green. Virgil described a 'wine-dark sea' that some scholars explain as a lack of word for it? Couldn't find hard source tho.
I do know that in ancient Chinese, the symbol 青 can be blue, green or black.
Humans, man. I swear.
captcha gdphd

>>508626555 (OP)
The color "orange" wasn't named until oranges were discovered by Europeans. The color "brown" is just dark orange.
Color is a very strange thing. Magenta is not a color in the rainbow. A true rainbow of colors cannot contain magenta.

>>508628043
>>508628068
Yeah, good point.

>>508627779
> If you do not have a word for green as distinct color from blue you can even tell them apart in your senses
Some guy had to notice blue without language, because he invented the word blue.

>>508628617
LMAO

>>508628740
He had a need for it. Words are tools. They get invented by the measure that they are useful. As long as it's not useful to have a word for it, it's not invented. I always grew up with MS Paint and the cyan color in the palette. Adults from the generation before me never had a need for a name for such color, they always called it either greenish blue or blueish green. To this day roasties still sometimes argue about whether some dress is a beautiful shade of green or blue.

>>508628957
By need, I mean he needed to tell apart something green from seomthing blue. Like I said, you can tell them apart while you're under the stimuli. But as soon as it's gone, it's not stored in your mind. He needed to somehow tell them apart and store this information in his mental models, or communicate this information to either a third party or his future self.

>>508628283
People who create things like paint and dyes to decorate their clothes and belongings care. It doesn't matter to a nigger because they aren't capable of creating anything.

>>508629179
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>508629349
I never have breakfast, preferring to wait for lunch, but if I was the kind of guy who has breakfast regularly, I would probably feel hungry after a few hours past my usual feeding time. Yes, there's the stupidity of niggers, but one must not underestimate the power of language models. That's the entire basis of their pilpul strenght. That's why they spend trillions on redefining words like "woman" or erasing from your mind the ability to think "nigger" (imagine a kid who from early age has been conditioned to be uncomfortable at the thought of this word, he's basically unable to think it and been cut off of all the vast treasure of ideas that is /pol/).

>>508626555 (OP)
This indicates lack of pattern recognition and classification which are indicators of intelligence. However, this has been true in many societies. Ancient Greeks also used odd words to describe the colour of the sky and sea. Blue was historically the hardest colour to produce as a dye being a common explanation.

These niggers are no Ancient Greeks.

>It's language that shapes our reality
You guys are all sounding like Skull Face or whatever his name was from MGSV

Apparently the ancient Greeks didn’t distinguish either, they’re the same color in Homer

>>508629824
>It's language that shapes our reality
Never played that, but yeah. Read Korzysbki.

>>508628708
Yet we have words for them.

>>508627486
Japanese have green, it's that they also have meta-colors: ao is blue and green, something aoi can be blue, green, aqua (blue-green), or a blue-green gradient. They have one for red and yellow too which is why they always depict the sun as red.but they also have specifically just green.

>>508628617
I think 'wine dark' is a better description of ocean water in some circumstances than blue is, but I think that's a function of ocean water, not language. Like I'm actually by ocean water right now that's brown; not far out from here it becomes an emerald green sort of color. But it doesn't mean I don't know what blue is just because I'm describing ocean water that way

>be color blind
>do nothing
>win anyways

>>508629824
That's why enemy governments are regimes, but friendly governments are administrations. Language shades everything. This is used to train people the same way dogs are trained with trigger words. The stupider and emotionally unstable the person the easier it is for society to create these triggers in them.

>>508626555 (OP)
it proves that language can also be a tool to HELP us create ideas and not just communicate them.

>>508626555 (OP)
>Why can't the Himba people of Namibia tell the difference between green and blue?
Because this is among the last color distinctions a culture makes, right before specific words for the more "derived" colors (brown, pink, orange etc).

>>508628957
This.

Blue/green are the dominant colors in most natural environments: Vegetation and the sky.

Until a culture develops a specific need to distinguish between green and blue, it is simply easier to use a single color term that covers a wide range of similarly-colored natural phenomena.

>>508626555 (OP)
Now, for the far more interesting question:

Why do a few cultures (mostly Turkic-influenced ones) have TWO terms for "red"?

And why is "blue" in picrel KÉK?

>>508626555 (OP)
Where you draw the lines between colours is arbitrary. There are a bunch of purple flowers that are called brown-something in Swedish because purple used to be considered a shade of brown back in the day. If you ask an interior designer what colour something is, he will likely have ten times the vocabulary for different colours than the average /pol/tard.

>>508627967
To be precise, they applied γλαυκός (glaucous) to blue, green, and light grey.

Often called "sea-green", but Homer famously compared the color of the sea to wine from really dark-blue grapes: οἶνοψ.

>>508630314
>I think 'wine dark' is a better description of ocean water in some circumstances
Like the Aegean.

I expected hot Himba girls. Fuck this gay thread.

>>508627486
In classical Greek literature Homer does not have a word for blue. He often describes the Mediterranean as "the wine dark sea"

>>508633054
In 21st century literature they didn't have words for "kike" or "traitor", they often described these people as "Zionists", "globalists", or "Sabbatean Frankists".

>>508632036
Top blue

>>508628067
Pajeet

>>508631454
That is the primary use of language. To create and store ideas. Transmission of ideas (communication) comes second.
This is why preserving your native language is important. It is like preserving your whole history and culture.
This is why sub saharan niggers who speak English and French are retarded. Same with pajeets. Their culture and history has been completely erased and diluted by the colonizers. They are just empty husks.

>>508634977
true, this is why i think the UN should act more as the glue and vault of humanity than whatever compromise machine it tries to be.
every single language must be recorded in enough details to be reconstructed, there are already many languages dying out every decade, its getting much worse with birth rates dropping and urbanization.

>>508626555 (OP)
>what colour is the sky?
To the Himbas it is the colour that we call both green and blue, you brainlet.

>>508626555 (OP)
They probably just don’t have a separate word for those two colors.

>>508628617
That picture made me feel better too

>>508628324
this is cope, they had at least two words that commonly meant blue, calling the sea wine dark does not change that, we say we are feeling blue, there is a blue moon and all sorts of things that arent actually the color blue but we still have a word that means blue so did the greeks
this cope is to explain why many greek leaders had blue eyes, some smarmy kike says there was no greek word for the color blue there were several


as for the africans in OPs post who the fuck knows, i would chalk this up to them having a very rudimentary language more than anything, you cannot have something approaching a civilization without words for the primary colors anyone suggesting otherwise literally cannot think

>>508636381
a lot of times groups like that don't even have numbers greater than 10 because they don't need them. 1-10 and then more. same with most other values of quantity and quality. their lived reality is extremely simplistic.

>>508627779
>Sapir Whorf hypothesis.
i believe it

>>508627995
aboriginals and native americans and amazonian natives before the introduction of a western diet also had perfect teeth noted by early explorers, missionaries and anthropologists

sugar is the easy explanation but it might go back to farming grains

>>508626555 (OP)
Still is. Blue and green are the same thing to japs.

>>508638259
that hasnt been the case since fucking heian period over a thousand years ago even then its fucking bullshit because The word midori appears in the Man’yōshū hundreds of years before than but they interpret it to mean "freshness or vitality"

you cannot have something approaching a civilization when your language doesnt distinguish between the color of grass and the color of the sky to suggest otherwise just shows you literally are incapable of thinking hard about anything