If GBU-57s couldn't crack through the depth and hit Iran's centrifuges, what other options are there? Tactical Nuke?

>>508627642 (OP)
We need a super crust buster. Look to the gay community

>>508627642 (OP)
drop jews at it!

Can they bust steel beams?

>>508627642 (OP)
Rod from God would do the job

>>508627642 (OP)
It is accepted nothing short of 5 -10 megatons for hardened installations; ICBM silos and Sub bases.
a bit larger than tactical nukes.

>>508627642 (OP)
Teleport a nuke into the bunker with those plasma orb uap that were involved with flight mh370.

Diplomacy.

Like, I dunno... The JCPOA that Obama put forward and Trump ripped up like the retard he is. Fact of the matter is that no military action besides boots on the ground is going to destroy Iran's nuclear program.

The only thing that can stop it is a new deal but America can't be trusted under Drumpf.

Those bombs hit their marks dead-on. When they were being developed the DOD specifically tested them by using them to hit purpose-built underground chambers many hundreds of feet under solid rock out in the southwest desert. They have a much greater working depth than the government openly admits, just like ALL of our special military gear.

>>508627826
Yeah but they are rated to 60m for concrete. I think the bomb weighs 15 tonnes too. Pretty impressive but not taking out a properly deep hardened bunker.

>>508627642 (OP)
It looks like a big bird taking a dump.

just dig deeper bro
it's not that hard

>>508627642 (OP)
even if these reports are true, the Iranians spent years digging out that facility and I have to think they'd be retarded to continue using it after this
could just come back again and drop more GBUs down the holes made last time, etc

>>508627642 (OP)
Dropping rock hard BBC

>>508627642 (OP)
Stuxnet 2

>>508627642 (OP)
Boots on the ground. There's no other choice. We need to reinstate draft.

>>508627642 (OP)
A TRVTHNVKE

>>508628355
Fun fact they aren’t stealth when they open the bomb doors so trump ocasionally sends them over to China North Korea and others has them open their doors to light up their radars then close them again just to fuck with them

>>508627642 (OP)
Nuclear bunker busters, they figured this out in the cold war already. Fordow is "just" 60-90m under the ground. Some American and Russian bunkers are up to 600m underground, they calculated they'd need several direct nuclear hits to do real damage to them (hence nuclear bunker busters, which cut down on how many are needed).
>>508629038
>could just come back again and drop more GBUs down the holes made last time, etc
Not this shit again. No American (or other) ordnance has that level of precision, let alone MOPs. They already dropped multiple, if they could thread them through the holes they'd just have dropped them one after the other into the same hole. They didn't.

>>508627642 (OP)
They dropped those bombs down ventilation shafts
That place is fucked. You believe the fake news because youre a retard with TDS
Maybe kill yourself?

>>508627642 (OP)
It's time to bring out the GBU-9000

>>508629038
>could just come back again and drop more GBUs down the holes made last time, etc

The Iranians could just fill the holes with concrete.

>>508629322
Vanned hohols dying in Iran when?

>>508627642 (OP)
Tactical. Nuke on downtown Tel Aviv would end the conflict

>>508629529
do you really think the iranians are going to build straight down ventilation shafts like it's Star Wars

>>508629529

So, the silly animation fooled you?

>>508629529
>ventilation shafts
Just like the hecking deathstar!

>>508629322
yeah, till the last hohol.
care about your own pile of shit!

>>508627642 (OP)
There’s always the option of a snuke, people forget about that

Rods from god. Though they're not going to use that for Iran.

nukes wouldn't work very well either for the same reasons conventional warheads don't: energy is deflected upwards and backfill quickly refills the hole, which absorbs more energy than solid rock and conceals the target point.

>>508627642 (OP)
A timely regime change is the only guarantee that Iran doesn't get nukes sooner or later.
Imagine Kim Yong Un giving them some friendly help and it could be rather sooner than later.

>>508627642 (OP)
The best option is to leave them alone militarily, open good faith trade, and become a couple of besties so the world can work together in defeating Israel’s government

>>508628003
10 megatons is not a bit bigger than a tactical nuke, it's like 400x bigger.

>>508627642 (OP)
nothing other than special forces/ground forces

>>508627642 (OP)
the /k/ope is that it was not actually used, therefore wunderwaffe status is preserved

>>508629529
>WOWZA JUST LIKE THE HECKIN DEATH STAR

>>508627642 (OP)
trump ordered a new nuclear weapon designed and built during his first term to strike this target

this nuke exists for the sole purpose of destroying iranian enrichment facilities

>>508627642 (OP)
>>508629521
>>508630360


https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/b/bunker-busters-robust-nuclear-earth-penetrator-issues.html

"The United States has one type of nuclear earth penetrator, the B61-11 bomb, which was accepted into the stockpile in September 2001.1 That weapon, though, according to an article by several scientists from Los Alamos National Laboratory, "cannot survive delivery into certain types of terrain in which such [hardened underground] facilities may be located."2 "

If you could somehow make a MIRV robust enough to survive the impact into deep soil or solid rock, and then explode right above the underground chamber, then you'd have a chance. But the consensus is that if you build a bunker deep enough under a tough mountain, the best you can do is collapse the tunnels you know about, but you won't be able to destroy the facility from the air.

>>508627642 (OP)
>Believing in CNN misinformation.

>>508628132
>Fact of the matter is that no military action besides boots on the ground is going to destroy Iran's nuclear program.

Le bingo. Jews knew this beforehand.

And good luck getting Trump to put boots on the ground when Iran is going to be 10 times harder than Iraq to subdue.

>>508627642 (OP)
We'd need the nuclear tipped GBU-57 that can penetrate more than 18m of concrete (aka granite) and get more precise accuracy. Basically need to hit the same exact spot and angle back to back to back to hit a 800m target.
>>508628214
>Those bombs hit their marks dead-on.
They hit the tunnels entrances which we have already done countless times before we had the GBU-57. These bombs were built for poor retards that dig shallow underground chambers, not Iranian nuclear facilities you mouth breathing sheep.

They weren't used because they'd hardly do shit against a mountain and everyone already knew it. We told Iran we'd do this surface level JASSM shit and allowed Iran to do a performative attack against Al Udeida base. No further escalation, ziobots appeased.
https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1936849301617152103#m

>>508629521
>Fordow is "just" 60-90m under the ground.
another retard here

>>508631361
Collapse the entrances of the thing, then destroy any mining equipment brought in to open up the tunnels with airstrikes or cruise missiles.
You do that a few times and people will stop trying because they don't wanna get blown up. Alternatively, just blow up Iran's oil infrastructure. Or combine the two and they lose money to afford new mining equipment. The equipment needed to dig facilities under mountains is very expensive. Millions of dollars just for haulers. Digging a highly technical facility into the side of a mountain is no trivial feat. It's extremely expensive.

>>508627642 (OP)
Wow, after an unprovoked act of war that IRAN of all nations deescalated,
now you want an unprovoked nuclear strike, as the agressor, against a non-nuclear nation.

>>508627642 (OP)
Drop niggers and jews on Iran and wait for 50 years

just ask AI to come up with the plan using its superior cognitive prowess

Get a bunch of those helicopters for putting out fires, dump a load of water down the holes. drown them out.

>>508632050
>just keep bombing till they stop
You are really retarded beyond belief lil zoom zoom.

>>508631855
>And good luck getting Trump to put boots on the ground when Iran is going to be 10 times harder than Iraq to subdue.
israel said it needed us help to destroy the nuclear sites as it's bombs could not.
Sorry but they will be sol asking for manpower when they already have their own and especially after what they did with the ceasefire.
They showed the world just what they are.

>>508627642 (OP)
Give the Ayatollah Havana Syndrome.

>>508627642 (OP)
NUKES ARE ALWAYS THE ANSWER

>>508631927
>They weren't used because they'd hardly do shit against a mountain
They were built and tested on mountains in New Mexico.

>>508629322
OMG you kikes,are you gonna sign up, your kids and grandkids

>>508631130
Then why didn't he use it? Didn't want to look like a hypocrite telling Russia to calm down while he goes off nuking Iran, I guess.

Or it was just Trump's strategy to not fully destroy Iran's facilities, because otherwise they would have lashed out for real on Israel and US bases.

Strap a rocket to the tail end of the bomb so it hits like mach 3 and penetrates super giga deep

Or have the entire bomb become a giant shape charge

>>508632654
>Unprovoked act of agression AND ALSO a nuclear strike on a non-nuclear nation.
I wonder why he didn't.

There's also the little problem of Russia immediately using it as an excuse to blow up Ukraine.

>>508627826
Ironically a thermite payload is actually a good idea for a bunker buster.

Israeli officials thought that the only way to do it would be to bombard the area with conventional explosives to soften it up and then drop a tactical nuke

>>508632599
They were tested on concrete bunkers in the desert of NM. STOP TALKING RETARD

>>508627800
To the last Israeli!

>>508632050
>continuous bombing campaign on civilians resulting in a domestic crisis at home and widespread condemnation from global community
Jesus we really are out of options aren't we
Just call it a game and let Iran build a nuke. No state with a nuke ever uses it and if they do, worst they'll do is nuke Israel. Which is actually a win
Time for us to adopt the Xi strategy of winning by doing nothing

>>508632271
You think they're willing to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in mining equipment? Also, you think they'll just have people willing to go out in the mountains to operate that equipment just to get exploded every time? You blow the expensive heavy equipment up, then they have to haul more heavy equipment in to try again, and you blow that shit up, and just keep blowing up construction equipment, rail lines and locomotives, roads leading to the site and the equipment to build those roads. You go after their heavy equipment and destroy it. That shit is expensive as fuck and it takes weeks to months to build stuff with it. It doesn't just appear out there in the middle of nowhere like it has instant transmission or something. It's extremely heavy and needs to be hauled out there, put together, then operated. You just strike all that shit. If they keep trying you keep doing it until they stop. A cruise missile doesn't cost as much as a Komatsu mining hauler or the boring machines, etc.

They'll either run out of money or get demoralized and stop, but either way they'll stop, especially if you blow up fuel and energy infrastructure. They're not some almighty industrial force. They have to buy everything from China.

>>508633247
One and done.

this thread is filled with mic shills bots and migatards

>>508633286
If you think the whole world would just let us bomb Iran and other countries equipment like that with no repercussions you are beyond retarded.
Who do you think helped them develop the nukes and gave them equipment to build such deep underground bunkers? Or do you not think and just vomit retardation someone fed you?

>>508633286
Sounds like a lot of work Shlomo. Gonna pass, sorry

>>508632905
>They were tested on concrete bunkers in the desert of NM.
Those bunkers are under mountains. I know the area they were tested in. You really think the DOD doesn't know what it's doing?

>>508633247
If you're building nuclear weapons you are NOT a civilian, and that goes for the US as well. If you're in the US and you are in any way part of any operation that builds weapons for the US government, you are NOT a civilian. You're a weapons maker for the government, and in a conflict you are a valid target. It's been that way throughout human history too, weapon smiths that worked for kings were valid targets in wars and were sometimes assassinated by spies to halt the production of arrows, bows, armor, swords, pikes, you name it. Everyone in WW1 and WW2 tried to bomb each others munitions and weapons factories, fuel depots, etc. They are absolutely valid targets in conflicts. What kind of idiot wouldn't take out the people making weapons for the enemy if the chance arises?

>>508627642 (OP)
You'd have to drop rocks from the moon like in that Heinlein book.

>>508633856
Nobody cares about what your headcanon definition of what a civilian is retard, I was talking about the world response. Not the response of some armchair autist on 4chan who's probably a kike shill LOL. Understand?

>>508627642 (OP)
Silly goyim. Go there and attack. Tell your friends. HOOAH!

One option is to dump huge cubes full of HF.
First drop a large bomb to make a crater, the the HF cube.
Parachuted to land softly in the crater.
Release the HF and it ought to turn the rocks into Silcon flouride, which is a gas, and other soluble salts. You may have to pass some planes overhead to dump some fresh waster to wash out these salts, then some more acid
Its a safe way to drill to the core

>>508633627
>If you think the whole world would just let us
How are they going to stop us? What military force are they going to use?

>>508633719
I wanna say, I believe Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. I hate them more than any other country. That being said, I don't like Iran or anyone else thumbing their noses at us. I hate that shit, little weak-ass spergs thinking they're in charge. If tyhey think they're in charge, give them all the charge they want. And I hope to GOD we can do that to Israel one day. Just fuck em. Who the fuck are they?
>oooo we have blackmail showing the president raping little girls, you better not hurt us!
BOOM. Now you're dead and the president is still alive. Suck cocks in hell.

You either stop willingly or get blown up, that's my sort of diplomacy.

>>508627642 (OP)
Whatever profits jews and the Lockheed Martin/Raytheon/Boeing shareholders in congress the most.

>>508633952
Fuck the world response. That's some pussy UN shit. Get the fuck out of here. We need to go back to the days where people are scared of the big bad wolf. We got all this military power and all those trillions spent on military power and we let it sit on bases and gather dust. Use that shit. And if Russia threatens to nuke us, whisper in their ears *TACAMO*
They won't do shit just like they won't hit Zelensky with one of their hypersonic missiles.

>>508627642 (OP)
None
Jews lost

>>508634890
Hydroflouric acid

>>508634752
No, fuck YOU kike

>>508633856
>If you're building nuclear weapons you are NOT a civilian
Heaven forbid a man has hobbies

>>508634435
>I wanna say, I believe Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth.
Tbch I don't believe you am like 95% sure you're a Jew. But sure, I'll play along
If you actually did think this then let Iran build a nuke and just outcompete China for an economic partnership with them. They'd treat us like they treat China now, with respect and some deference. Its a win-win for everyone but Pissrael

>>508635585
Kikes would never have the balls to do what I'd do. They work in secret and use subversion. I'd use high explosives. Nothing secret about blowing the enemy up. You can be a friend and not get blown up, or be an enemy and see what happens when nitro groups break their chemical bonds. Your choice.
People thinking Donald Trump is a nazi of fascist have no clue what those words actually mean when they're applied honestly.

>>508627800
checked. we have not tried this yet, 6 million should do it no problem.

>>508627938
haha yeah if only we didnt invest in endless shitskins instead amiright MI6? fucking hilarious.

>>508627642 (OP)
Only boots on the ground. First send in every Israeli male. Then every Jewish male from other countries. Then send in John "Rambo" Bolton to mop up any survivors.

>>508627642 (OP)
No that wouldn’t work either

>>508635762
>If you actually did think this then let Iran build a nuke
If Iran said they wanted to be our friend and ally and build nukes, I'd be totally cool with that. If they talk shit on us, they get blown up. It's that simple, and this goes for every single country on the face of the earth. DO NOT BE AN ENEMY and you're good. I'm the kind of guy that's willing to work with the monkey troop on the other side of the forest. There's enough food and land and trees to climb in for everyone. But if you wanna be an enemy troop, you get exploded.
Except Israel. I would NEVER EVER trust them. They're not monkeys, they're tapeworms.

>>508627642 (OP)
>what other options are there?
The option of fuck off israel can go in my itself.

>>508629440

Based

>>508627642 (OP)
Option B: Stop sucking yidsrael's cock like an obedient golem.

>>508636327
>If Iran said they wanted to be our friend and ally and build nukes, I'd be totally cool with that
it's an impossibility since they'd threaten israel's regional dominance, which is non-negotiable for america for obvious reasons.

>>508636769
My point is, we got into this situation through courtroom diplomacy. Worrying about Israel releasing mossad blackmail is retarded. Just tell mossad that if they release blackmail, they'll get blown up with unrelenting force.
>Are you willing to die and get your country wiped from the face of the earth, just for releasing some videos of me fucking some 13yo girls? You really want to die that hard? DO IT. I'll glass your ass.
That's what I'd say.
>We'll assassinate you!
Then I'll have my friend glass your ass instead.

>>508627642 (OP)
Trump didn't know what the fuck he was doing evidently. All we can do now is trust the plan.

>>508637300
they have your political class the balls in a dozen ways other than straight-up blackmail. it'd take a once in a generation politician to cut through all the corruption.

>>508627642 (OP)
>what other options are there?
Not getting involved

>>508628003
Kilotons not megatons dummy. 10 megatons is a county killer. The key is 10kt "tac" nuke following behind a MOP

>>508630360
What if it were a nuke in a gbu 57. Then a smaller nuke could be used and it would.stay 200ft underground

>>508637762
They do have 1Mt boonker boosters that only go a few meters in and send up a mushroom cloud and contaminate neighboring countries. Those seem unweildy

>>508637568
I guess they're luckyI'm not in politics then. I'd intentionally get blackmailed to make them feel like they have me in a bind to put myself in a position where I can tell them I JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK, DIE IF YOU GET STUPID.
Same with the US congress. If congress threatened me, I'd say-
>Bitch, you fucking lawyer retards have the LOWEST approval rating out of any part of the US government. Even the IRS isn't as bad because the IRS sometimes gives people money back. You do nothing good, you're a waste of fucking time, everyone hates you, and you need to go chase ambulances again and stay the fuck out of my goddamn way or I'll come down there flanked in Secret Service and shoot you myself.
>NOBODY LIKES YOU. YOU'RE STUPID, YOU TALK LIKE FAGGOTS, AND EVERYONE HATES YOU. Get out. Roll on out before you get rolled out.

>>508627800
>strap jews to F-15E
>mach 2 dive from 60000ft
>70kg @ 700m/s is about 17 megajewles
>equivalent to a 155mm howitzer shell
We might need several thousand jews to do the job, but I think it could work

>>508630430
Completely unironically this.

>>508638429
Are those bunker busters or the lay down/ground explosion ones to max out fallout?

>>508639353
What? Did you misquote me?

>>508638271
>>508639353
Holy shit you're right those are 9mt bombs
We are a fucking insane species

>>508627642 (OP)
>what other options are there?
not wasting time and money on israel
apparently we didn't hit anything of critical importance, because they moved out

so either we missed, or israel fed us shit intel, either way, we're getting jew'd

>>508639497
Oh, ya sorry I meant this guy>>508638271

>>508627642 (OP)
y'know I wasn't sure if it was true the facilities were not hit as hard as initially reported, but then Trump started whining about the fake news media reporting that so I guess it's true.

>>508639720
Well to show you what small nukes can do to the earth, here's some info-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

>>508627642 (OP)
Diplomacy.

Iran has op concrete and the country is a Mountain range..

Was doomed to fail. Iran legitimately stopped development towards a nuke with the obama deal, trump being the retard cult leader grifter he is fucked it up. Now hes trying to sell this bust as a success to coverup his monumental incompetency. Iran won't stop until they have a nuke now.

All off this bullshit has been a failure. The strikes only pissed Iran off and strenghtened the hardliners. Killing off iranian leadership did them a service given the new absolutism that will engulf Iran.

No way in hell they look at Trump and think they can trust a word he says if there are renewed talks

>>508631855
we obliterated it, axios and reuters is fake news, I get all my information from @catturd and the daily wire

>>508634435
>didn't answer the questions I asked and repeated more mossad ppt talking points
Earn those shekels kike

>>508640058
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechora%E2%80%93Kama_Canal
Russia actually tried doing it and figured out the consequences but sure keep up your lil fairy tale kike boy.

>>508638271
>>508639668
nah the nuclear bunker busters would do the job, about 300kt does the same as a 1Mt surface bomb, it only needs to penetrate like 20ft into the rock for the explosive force to get transmitted as seismic waves, then the facility is fucked unless it's like Cheyenne or Mt. Yamatau where those can take multiple hits

>>508640738
Iran already has nukes, their two biggest enemies are nuclear armed and trigger-happy they'd be retarded not to have a few stashed away

>>508627642 (OP)
YEah, what most of these powerfaggots (aka envious eurohomos) don't understand that a single bomb could have never done the job. That's why they dropped 14 and in very specific places. They worked with geologists and material specialists to find a way to cause a cascading failure. Did it work 100%? No idea. Did some shit go bad for Iran in that mountain? Absolutely. The small subsidence crated that appeared tells you as much.

>>508642781
It's already been stated they only dropped 2/14 on Fordow. Tthey didn't have any specialists and just targeted the entrances and exits.

>>508627642 (OP) <-kike
The only thing Iran could do with a nuke is the same as everyone else: prevent other people from nuking them.

>>508627642 (OP)
Hypersonic missile, Oh wait

What's a centrifuge?

The US looks terribly weak and subservient to Israel. Moronic Trump

>>508627642 (OP)
>>508640738

Best options
De Nuke Israel, bamn
then
Quit helping them
Israel gets gone
Arabs dont desire nukes as much

https://youtu.be/QrFxKY6aFrQ?si=J4WfJnkQ8VOkTkwa

>>508627642 (OP)
reminder mutts have only 20 of those bombs and they just wasted 9 of them

>>508645242
It's like a refugee but one who is a centrist in voting

Options are a Rod from God or a nuke
But nukes you are just trying to delete the entire mountain and then you can drop a bunker buster on it, so it would be a fuckin mess.

Ritties

>>508629883
It’s just like my marvel movies and anime

Stunxnet 2.0