Thread 508684150

NATO european countries agree to spend 5% of their GDP on defence.

Trump did it,he save us all.

>>508684150 (OP)
They agreed to the 2% as well and look how that turned out.

>>508684150 (OP)
we werent even making our 2% commitments, this is terrible news

>>508684150 (OP)
we are ready

>>508684150 (OP)
And they are going to get the money where exactly? Borrow a couple of billions again? Raise prices? Tax us some more?

All for some bullshit wars and pointless weaponization that no one wants except the kikes and some decrepit leaders

>>508684598
>Borrow a couple of billions again? Raise prices? Tax us some more?
yes.
we basically agreed before the nato summit tho, Readiness 2030

>>508684150 (OP)
Why should the NATO defense spending target be raised to 5% of GDP? I've been reliably informed that the Russian military is getting decimated in Ukraine and has been revealed to be a paper tiger. Furthermore, Russia's economy is imminently about to implode. So it seems to me that the NATO spending target should be lowered from 2% of GDP to 1.5% of GDP.

>>508684256
Just change your GDP calculations. Problem solved.

>>508684150 (OP)
I’m happy. It will take Europe a lot more to the right when militarism makes a return. I’m also tired of having to listen to the opinions of Americans and having to consider a shithole like Russia. Good day and good job.
>>508684598
The fact that Belgium is a steaming pile of shit stems from having two completely different nations that are unhealthely entwined and the most shitskins per capita. A stronger military will unironically help you in that regard as well.

>>508684150 (OP)
Military industrial mafia ia about to rule us and manufacture consents for war. They kilked JFK with Mossad yknow.

>>508684150 (OP)
Good.
Also this includes the US also. Not just Europe.

>>508685922
You literally wont do shit as you havent done shit so far

>>508686385
You willingly entered a pact with a jewish milind mafia. Nato is supranational youve lost sovereignty in exchange for nothing.

>>508686317
Tiresome meme, look at the chart, so much for mic being in control of anything.

>>508686446
What would count as doing something? On what terrain even?

>>508685922
>It will take Europe a lot more to the right
the eu parliament is under a right wing majority for most of it's existence, whatever the fuck your problem is /yourguys caused it, druggie

>>508684256
STFU and take in more Indians

>>508685596
we're running on estimates this year

>>508684150 (OP)
NATO is the fall of the west, enjoy your 3rd worldie niggers and fags

>>508686574
>mic spendong went down during full on wartime to peacetime
>says a person who just increased its mic spending dramatically
Not only are u megastupid but you are willingly zog. As u were i hope i shoot at u someday.

>>508684150 (OP)
Keep the zog military industrial complex going

>>508687026
On your terrain. You think nato is gonna be right wing and get rid of all the invaders in ur own shithole? Do u know who runs nato? Are u all children itt?

>>508684150 (OP)
literally why? 5% alliance wide is hilarious overkill

>>508687787
It's called racketeering kek.

>>508684243
as long are you agreeable that's what really counts

>>508684150 (OP)
If they leave their military spending intact but shrink their economies until it's 5%, would that work as the lol lmao option?

>>508687787
Its like 500 billion EU-wide. The kikes in charge are popping champagne. They just doubled their profit. So much debt will be issued. Its a talmudic bonanza.

>>508684150 (OP)
They will have to cut into the welfare entitlements, for white people only of course, shitskins need free housing, free food, free medical, free childcare still though

iran and ukraine show that it doesnt matter
only nukes matter
as long as there's any NATO country without nukes, it doesnt mean shit
perpetual cold war is the only guarantee of peace

>>508684150 (OP)
>Step 1: Tax the goy
>Step 2: Tax the goy some more
>Step 3: Tax the goy to buy rifles and ammo
>Step 4: Send the goyim to shoot other goyim
>Step 5: Whine about falling population numbers and bring in brown retards to pretend that your GDP isn't in free fall
Wow, you kikes truly are genius-tier 5D chess players, and not parasites that blackmail our faggot, retard politicians.

5% GDP is like a quarter of the yearly budget, WTF. No way can we pay that.

>>508688223
Death to Ukraine.

>>508684150 (OP)
still not buying raytheon (((stocks)))

>>508687787
Countries who were spending half of 2% target will finally pass it when they'll start spending half of 5% target.

>>508687764
>will NATO get rid of invaders
It will be a minuscule part of the deprogramming, not by intention but as a side effect of remilitarization.

>>508684598
Pretty much we shouldn’t be in Nato anyway

>>508688223
Peace with whomst? Excluding the ottoman invaders, Nobody attacked europe in the last 300 years other than europe itself. Cold war is a guarantee of a hot one.

>>508689395
I'd rather have Spain leave NATO and the EU and suffer for the next 20 years, but that shit's not gonna ever happen and people will vastly support sucking kike dick instead because it's what they're used to.

There's no real good place to live in the world anymore, at this point just nuke everything and start over.

>>508689269
Delusional. Nato is zog. Youll be fully romanized with your fellow niggers into the neo-empire. You wont be allowed power as a racist. You are subservient to capital not to the state because thats who nato represents. Its supranational. You dont tell THEM what to do they tell YOU.

>>508684256
Our GDP is just 1 house being sold back and forth over and over

But I don't have the money!

>>508684150 (OP)
>the GDP of Europe is 20 trillion, UK is 3,8 trillion and Turkey is 1.4 trillion, that's over 25 trillion, 5% of that is 1250 billion euros only for Defense
all of that just for Russia who can't win in Ukraine for 3 years? such bullshit

>>508689698
Suffer from what? Spain is un takeable you shouldn’t be in any alliance

>>508684150 (OP)

What does this actually mean? The 5% was always the agreement. Its just that no one did it and no one forced them to. Well thats not true some did it. There was at least two. The UK? And something else.?

>>508689570
???
>Nobody attacked europe in the last 300 years
>other than europe itself
???
Are you stupid?
if some nigger breaks into your house and shoots you will you say no one attacked you other than america itself? would you say there's no crime in america outside of crime americans are doing themselves so you dont need police? Is it OK for you to be killed as long as you're killed by a mexican since you're both north americans??
your logic makes no sense

>>508687054
In the same sense Mitt Romney is right-wing

>>508689926
We'd need to modernize our energy grid to rely on solar, wind and hydrogen and revive the industries the EU raped to turn us into just a touristic spot, our new currency would devalue into hell...etc. I'd say around 20 years to make this shit work again on our own after leaving NATO and the EU.

>>508689810
You have 25% youth unemployment. Instead of paying them to do nothing you pay them to make bombs. There you go solved without touching the budget.

>>508684598
het is altijd hetzelfde. nog meer belastingen, dit keer niet alleen voor buitenlanders te sponsoren maar ook voor amerika (lees: israël) af te zuigen. alles wordt nog maar is gevaarlijker en duurder ondanks dat er steeds meer daklozen zijn en armoede is..

>>508684150 (OP)
HAHAHA.
Russia buck broke europoors with their little skirmish in Youkrane

>>508690653
schuld van de sossen xD zullen nog wat meer stemmen op opper jood afzuiger Francken

>>508684256
you vill spend 1/3 of the federal budget on F-35s and you vill like it

>>508689165
many such cases

>target
Lol. They can agree to target 300%. The point is penalties if they don't reach their commitment.

GDP vs wages

>>508690781
er zijn helemaal geen goede politiekers in belgië. maak mij wakker als er een autoritaire groene partij is die voor kernenergie is of zo, niet israëlpartij nummer 20. want dat zijn het allemaal. de linksen en de rechtsen zijn in hetzelfde bed ziek
hoe dan ook, invoordat geband voor geen engels te spreken (ik weiger dat te doen, niet zoals de /pol/der homos in hun (((draad))))

>>508684150 (OP)
They agreed to a lower percentage before that the majority don’t meet now.

>>508689834
>all of that just for Russia who can't win in Ukraine for 3 years? such bullshit
Just because you think that drunken retard doesn't pose much threat, doesn't mean he won't jump at you with piece of broken glass when you're unprepared. More unprepared you look, more likely he'll try his chances.

Russians are capable of sending 20-30 million men to die in Baltic states/Poland/Germany (depending how unprepared we are). These men could be crippled and retarded but they'll come here and we'll have to use expesive weapons to kill them all because our lives are worth much more than theirs'.

I wanna invest my money in something that gets rid of people that run this country

>>508684150 (OP)
>Russia gets stopped in the fucking Donbas region and kicked out of all of northern and northeast Ukraine
>NATO raises spending to 5%
Can someone fucking explain what's going on? War in Ukraine proved that Russia is barely even a regional power anymore, nevermind a superpower. Why is NATO pretending we need to spend more money on defense?

>>508685455
Because NATO will be stronger if all member nations rapidly build up their militaries. Are you retarded?

>>508685922
Rutte is doing a good job so far as secretary general
5% will be good for everyone and good for euro arms manufacturers. Stronger military is always good and it will force discussions on how much money is spent on gibs for "refugees" now that 5% needs to be spent. NATO is kind of a joke right now but it could be much stronger. 10 years of 5% and the alliance will be much more powerful than it is now

we’re all gonna die

>>508684150 (OP)
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nice im so happy my country is going to lower my quality of life in service of jews and brownoids. At least it's something different for a change.

>>508687787
So that NATO is powerful. Why dont you want to have a strong military? Thats retarded. NATO should have an overkill military as deterrence. Weak military, like you want, invites problems. Youre a moron

>>508684256
I hate you faggots so much

>Constantly bitches about America
>Expects America to pay for their entire national defense so they can instead fund gay muslim drag shows for trans kids

>>508691655
>implying all that money won't just be pilfered
this dumb nigga thinks billions are going to create super weapons like a james bond movie when expensive equipment doesn't matter because our enemies can invest 10,000$ into a drone swarm that will do billions in asymetrical damage
what a dumb nigga everyone laugh at this idiot falling for the kikes games, if he isn't a shill

>>508688333
Checked and keked
You'll get there. Probably have to deport some people and stop spending money on them to free up the cash

>>508684598
>And they are going to get the money where exactly?
Cut migrant gibs.

>>508691482
1200 billion for more jewish wars hurray

>>508691808
>>Expects America to pay for their entire national defense so they can instead fund gay muslim drag shows for trans kids

It's literally your fucking country that invested trillions into pushing that shit all over the world. We have gay trans muslim drag shows because of your demonic country you faggot. We're just sheep following your will, which is pathetic, yes, but your country is the demonic one that pushed this. The only defense you have is that maybe it was at someone elses behest, which just makes you sheep like us, but worse.

>>508684256
just don't commit, worked before will work now.

Thanks Putin. Now I probably have to do yet another round of rehearsal exercises.

>>508691861
I dont think it will create super weapons. Youre a dumbass. At a minimum, all the arms sent to ukraine needs to be replenished. The only people seething in this thread are from countries that spend very little on their military. That's their fault. NATO isnt fair to the US if other allies dont contribute and have weak militaries. I guess you want your country to have a weak military because you think the US will always defend you so you dont need to have a military?

>>508692062
Nah, Carney will do what he's told. We elected liberals again because "he stood up to Trump" and the result is going to be that he does everything Trump (and Trump's masters) tells him to do
That's the kind of irony you get when you live in shithole Canada

lol, buy bitcoin. the euro is going to 0

>>508691899
Haha no. They'll cut support to white families.
Migrants still get infinity gibs and free housing.

>>508692062
You guys are such scum
You deserve to be killed by a russian drone

>>508691951
>It's literally your fucking country that invested trillions into pushing that shit all over the world
Fuck off no it isn't. This shit came to america from overseas and took over our media.

>>508692118
you don’t commit 5% tho why are you exempt also you’re the imperial overlord it’s your empire not ours we’re basically asked to maintain your decay

>>508692150
this, i wish they’d cut anything, but we’re ruled by women.

Kek they're bullying our Perro Sanchez, look he's smiling regardless cause he's not gonna commit to 5%.

>>508692118
Look at this kike lackey, working hard to make sure the kikes at the defense companies get their fair share. What a good shabbos goy. You need those 300,000,000 missiles for a strong military goy nevermind that a 5,000 drone could do the same job
we need to replenish iron dome goy or you won't be safe from all the enemies we're suckering you into wars with

What a pathetic shabbos goy you are. Keep working for the kike cheques. You're doing it for free, I can tell.

The Queen in Yellow

>>508692210
>he thinks all this came from magical fairy land somewhere and not his own country aggressively pushing it
lmaaaaaao

>>508692248
it’s a fucking massive commitment, and only focused on muh russia, not even on the mediterranean spain would actually care about

>>508691431
>War in Ukraine proved that Russia is barely even a regional power anymore, nevermind a superpower. Why is NATO pretending we need to spend more money on defense?
Because unlike "SMO" in Ukraine, war with NATO will be existencial matter for Russians and when facing existencial threat, they are capable of throwing 20-30 million cannon fodder at us. These men won't kill themselves - that will be our job. Americans will be dealing with Chinks, so they won't be around to help us.

>>508692276
who is the yellow hottie

>>508684150 (OP)
Why not pay attacker 1 million dollars not to attack?

Inquired by major general Natalia Poklonskaya.

>>508692458
Maxima, Queen of the Netherlands

>>508692248
its because the false flag will happen in Spain.

>>508692276
I hate Rutte so much

>>508692237
We will get to 5% . We have been at least 2% for years now while other nations havent. Euros should want a strong military of their own so they're less likely to die in a war in Europe. Rather than being so reliant on the US. Don't you feel any shame for having a weak military? You'd feel better with a strong military

>>508691482
I've realized that basically the majority of the posters on this board are completely brain broken into hating western nations, regardless of what good things they do. The vast majority of posters on /pol/ are now just terminal contrarians.

>>508684598
if your country is smart they build factories to produce shit so the increased spending is not just a transfer of money to biggest defense companies
>>508685455
the usa aint doing so hot right now so they need some income in the form of the non-existent tax income they get from lockheed and palls.

>>508690519
When do I start

>>508692335
It came from academia in europe you dildo

The "rootless cosmopolitans"

>>508692248
Trump just roasted a Spanish reporter
Spain on notice
Worst NATO ally in the whole alliance

>>508692570
Good, aim for Barcelona or Madrid, we can do with less niggers and vloggers there.

>>508692551
Ah ok, I couldnt figure out who exactly was there, I could tell it was more than just heads of state.

>>508691759
The only reason why Russia hasn’t come over and pushed your shit in, is because you’re America’s fucking hat. You faggots need to pull your own weight.

>>508692668
Sad to see. Self hating cucks and actual browns

>>508685455
US arms dealers want cash and have connections

>>508689698
Spainbro..........trump is going to rape sanchez

>>508692710
That sounds like a compliment considering what i'm getting out of NATO.

>>508684261
For the bombings?

>>508692789
the biggest threat to Canadian sovereignty is on its southern border, Russia hasn't threatened them with shit

>>508684150 (OP)
isn't it already 5%

>>508692842
you and me both hombre

>>508692644
I’m a small country that always played and got played by the three big neighbors (France, UK, Germany) defense is irrelevant.

>>508684598
oh no we have to stop funding free houses and healthcare for third world "refugees"

>>508692551
Is his slampig her daughter or who?

>>508692814
Trump has been barking non-stop for half a year and if someone's gonna rape Sanchez is gonna be us. Sanchez can't fuck with us any further but he'd be toasted if he fucks with the immigrants instead, there's no winning so he'll just keep avoiding it until the next elections kek.

>>508692842
He roasted another one. He said Spain is going to pay. Tick tock. Hes not joking. Hes going to make Spain pay

>>508691431
The war in Ukraine does not make sense for Russia, the losses just outweigh any reasonable benefit. Yet Putin ordered the attack and he has at least partial support.
Hence, we should be prepared for other illogical moves.
Also, it is now clear that the Russians are ready to sacrifice ungodly amounts of people and there is no meaningful resistance from the public to that.
The safest bet is to prepare for a Russian attack and telegraph it clearly enough so that even Putin and his supporters understand that it is a lost cause.

>>508692814
Spain is fucked. The fate they choose. Should've been making those payments for years.

>>508693120
Yup, it's her daughter and heir apparent Catharina-Amalia.
Hopefully she hits the gym before she becomes queen.

>>508684150 (OP)
they're waiting for drump to croak/leave so they don't need to honor the agreements. nothing will happen

>>508693249
>>508693316
Naive

>>508693293
>The safest bet is to prepare for a Russian attack and telegraph it clearly enough so that even Putin and his supporters understand that it is a lost cause
Yes and stronger militaries, because of 5% spending, will show Putin that it is a lost cause. A weak NATO invites problems from Putin.

>>508687054
EPP is about as right wing as Merkel bro

>>508693293
I have a theory and it's that the kremlin thougt they could strom ukraine in unironic 2 weeks or less and that would make some countries try to appeal to Russia sphere (Only figo en slovania have been semi-join), but this shit have convert to a attrition war and that shit with today demographics it's catastrofic, idk i have the feeling this shit it's a lot less idieological than most think.

>>508693437
You niggers think you'll just keep not paying the bill and not contributing and being free loaders. Spanish nigger mentality. Not anymore faggot

>>508684150 (OP)
lol, all the european signatories are already openly talking about how they’re going to weasel their way out of the obligations.

>>508693536
Adios

>>508684150 (OP)
>riot suppression for the immigrants

>>508684150 (OP)
the other 95% is handed over to shitskins to have free housing, free food, free clothes, free phones, free entertainment, free training, free education, free healthcare, priority for any job posting and immunity from prosecution even for crimes such as rape and murder.
seens a good deal, who is Europe "defending" from? all the enemies are already without out borders living for free with Europeans as the slave labour working and paying for them to live in five star hotels which would otherwise cost an Englishman £300-400 a night.

>>508691808
>you must spend a trillion dollars for Israel goy
our defence budget should go into a nuclear deterrent against you mutt golems

the free ride is over

>>508684598
Say bye bye to affordable health care keeeek

>>508684150 (OP)
Not a bad idea as long as the weapons are made in-country.
Buying it from the Americans would make it a stupid idea
In fact we should put the increased spending into a nuclear program, because its stupid as fuck to not have nukes

Its almost like powers that be want this "russia threat" to stay alive because with just a dozen nukes it would never be a threat again

>>508689942
so what is holding them to it now?

https://dr-les-sachs.eu/
https://dr-les-sachs.eu/belgian-corruption/nato-security-risk-von-der-leyen.pdf
https://dr-les-sachs.eu/belgian-corruption/eu-court-ltr-crimes-von-der-leyen.pdf
https://dr-les-sachs.eu/belgian-corruption/jourova-dossier-belgium-rule-of-law-violations.pdf
https://dr-les-sachs.eu/belgian-corruption/von-der-leyen-misconduct-eu-ombudsman.pdf
https://dr-les-sachs.eu/belgian-corruption/eu-crimes-von-der-leyen-reynders-extortion.pdf
https://faqusajudicialcorruption.blogspot.com/

>>508692276
they`re all so tall
trump is 6 foot 3 for comparison

>>508689942
>The 5% was always the agreement.
Why are you making shit up? The agreement was 2% since NATO was formed, but obviously many nations didn't even do that, only few of us did.
Then it was raised to 3% and now 5%.

>>508694659
Which even USA doesnt do btw, USA military spending is 3.3%

>>508684150 (OP)
?

>>508684150 (OP)
they agree to shut Trump up and then move on with their business.

>>508694714
And raising the defence spending much more from that will mostly go to raising the bonuses of the kikes of Lockheed-Martin
Many of the EXACT SAME weapon systems prices like simple LAW anti-tank rpg has 20x since the 90s
The kikes are raking in so much money in their pockets you couldn't even imagine
They often speak how the CEOs have insane pay now like several dozens of millions per year, but forgot to mention the largest OWNERS do not put in any work and get HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS

>>508694819
What the fuck is his problem? This is disgraceful behavior.

>>508694976
Americans find it funny

>>508684243
maybe the real spending is the friends we made along the way

>>508687787
iirc 5% represents a deterrence strategy. Supposedly, 5% is enough for a country to support two consecutive wars. What tends to happen throughout history is that leaders are opportunistic. When a war pops off, a neighbor might see this as an opportunity to launch their own war while everyone's focused on the first, so a bit of a domino effect. The idea is for NATO countries to be able to fight two fronts simultaneously so that they can intervene in the first war, and deploy to contain the second war. If other countries know that NATO is able to support a two front war, it acts as a deterrence for other opportunistic countries that might start new conflicts.

>>508694885
What I'm saying is that Trump is putting more taxpayer money to jewish pockets
I'm not saying European armies don't need to fucking shape up, they definitely do.
But acting like simply raising defence spending is the magic bullet is retarded, because what is stopping the MIC kikes from just raising the prices? Get same gear as before but with inflated prices, as MASSIVE price inflation has already been going on with record profits, especially in USA

>>508687145
there's already vibe coding, get ready for vibe accounting lmao

>>508694819
Rutte really knows how to suck his dick

>>508689570
The russia has attacked Europe several times.

>>508684150 (OP)
saved from what?

faggots?
3rd world immigrants?
degeneracy?
feminism?
taxes?
inflation?

Not sure how wasting tax money on defense spending helps any of that.

>>508687787
iis it 5% of each country's gdp?
so eastern European shitholes will put in a couple of hundred euros while France covers the other 50 billion.
makes sense
england announced they're doing the same thing, but England should raise 100% of its gdp for ten years to be used for military expenditure, and cease all benefits, close all hospitals and start gassing shitskins

fuck yeah let's spend hundreds of billions on ways to kill each other because Russians can't stop being niggers.

>>508695537
russians are fine, kikes are not.
why was the US allowed to replace the ulrane gov with american kikes and artillery strike ukranean civs for nearly a decade with not a hand lifted against them?
mystery

>>508695716
>why was the US allowed to replace the ulrane gov with american kikes and artillery strike ukranean civs for nearly a decade with not a hand lifted against them?
you are a brainwashed retard

>>508684150 (OP)
Lmao

>>508684150 (OP)
I thought the fat pedophile was done with NATO. Was that another lie?

>>508691899
Inshallah

It seems like Europeans are trying to create an impression they're going to defend the Baltic states by those spending moves.

In reality, if Europeans actually respond to the annexation tactical nukes or (in a less escalatory scenario) conventional ICBM's can fly straight to German power stations and Norwegian oil fields as a first demonstration.

Even with very little deaths, this would cause immense damage to the European economy.

>>508695758
Totally not a mafia racket btw, the burgers are in because they just love the world.

>>508696093
Its clearly a threat. Why is he so brave?

>>508684150 (OP)
Now if only we could somehow afford it. For Finland this means 3bn extra Europoors in a situation where we can barely afford to keep the lights on and government is cutting everywhere it can.

>>508691256
hahaha, the commies in 1945 had 6-8 million men army at their peak, that was with the entire support of USA/UK and their vassals in term of resources/weapons and support, while the USSR industry was at their peak (they made 18k T-34-85 tanks in six month in 1945), Russia right now is fucking nothing if you compare them with USSR
you're delusional if you think Russia and that retard Putin can somehow make a 3-5 million men army and tens of thousands of tank/vechiles and thousands of planes in a few years to invade Europe

>>508695758
Imagine Russia invading Ibiza and not having access to our outdated american gear to defend ourselves. It would be terrible indeed, we should pay 10%.

>>508684150 (OP)
>more money for kike wars
>the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
It's all so tiresome.

>>508691482
Why would NATO need to be stronger, if the main threat was overestimated and is getting weaker?

>>508684256
We never actually made the commitment to 2%
When that was first introduced Harper outright refused it. NATO went ahead and made it a "joint declaration" without us, demonstrating exactly how much gratitude they had for us honouring Article 5 in Afghanistan.

I'm personally for increased defense spending, especially to secure our arctic sovereignty, but NATO can go fuck itself. We benefit in exactly 0 ways from contributing to the alliance and it's an open secret no European NATO member would ever step up for our defense. We already have bilateral security partnerships with the US, which we shoulder equally with them.
Paying out the ass for a grand Canadian land army to be shipped back to fucking Flanders in the event that Lithuania stubs it's toe is a waste of time and effort.
Canada has fought so goddamn many foreign wars on behalf of the US and Europe and for what? No material benefit, no gratitude, no remembrance. They turn on us or forget us entirely as soon as it's convenient.

>>508684256
Canada is an irrelevant clown country. Our contribution is letting US billionaires own all our shit. That's why the states has never cared about us not being able to pull our own.

>>508685455
It's a blessing anon, with the future collapses of Russia, the EU and the US the world will be an unsafe place. Better we have some form of army at that point rather than whatever we've had for the last decades.

The funny thing is the idea is to start up the long neglected basic military industries in Europe but what will end up happening is governments will simply dump this extra money into buying thingamajigs from mostly American Wundewaffen Factories because actually building heavy industrial base with all its logistics and procurement chains included is a gigantic undertaking that will take over a decade. Easier to just dump that into getting a few more jets from Lockheed and gang.

>>508693293
>>508691256
>conventional warfare

See
>>508696072

Even with no nukes used, Russia can severely damage (meaning -50-80% GDP) Europe's economy with exclusively conventional IRBM's. In fact, the military is currently mass producing IRBM's (shorter range missiles) and it's probably done to minimize the usage of ICBM's while striking Europe (not diminishing Russia's ability to nuke the USA, Canada and the others).

>>508684261
thank god you're buying french planes.

>>508684150 (OP)
And who's gonna enforce that lmao. Fucking no one even has 2%.

>>508692668
>good things
Turning 5% of the nation into a completely unproductive sector, with the taxes of 15% more population going to sustain that 5%, does not sound "good". It sounds like people will get taxed the fuck out of, and any country which actually does this will fuck itself up economically. Over a phantom threat, while doing nothing to fix our actual problems.

By the way, the US, the actual militaristic empire leading this "alliance", spends like 4% and has basically bankrupted itself in the process already. 5% is actual fucking insanity.

>>508695757
having trouble assimilating facts, kike?

>>508697087
many countries has 2% only few does not

>>508696903
Weren't you supposed to take Kiev in 3 days ? Berlin in a week ? Lisbon in a month ? Do I need to tap the sign ??? You talk big, but from what I've seen there have been plenty of smoking incidents in Russia lately.

>>508696848
>repeating idiotic facebook memes
"it's all just a cycle!!! accelerate!!! ha ha!! wink, wiser men, tee hee"
next you'll be posting "the beautiful ones, the beautiful ones" and finishing with "may you live in interesting times" nods knowingly ;)

>>508684150 (OP)
LOL, they weren't putting in when it was 2.5%, now the expectation is 5% of GDP they're going to? I doubt it.

>>508684150 (OP)
Are they going to cut back in infinite welfare for useless shitskins?

>>508697306
>pick some random meme picture
>Bognigger has a spergout

>>508697296
Anyone who uses this phrase automatically loses the argument.

>>508684150 (OP)
They weren’t meeting their lower obligations

>>508697612
>Post proof
>no no not like that, that proof doesn't count because uhhhhhh
Embarassing. But I guess it doesn't matter what the Boyars say because the Czar is never wrong.

>>508696903
>Even with no nukes used, Russia can severely damage (meaning -50-80% GDP) Europe's economy with exclusively conventional IRBM's.
ok, and you would be nuked back for that... your point?

>>508697150
Heh you're right. Haven't looked at it in years, but I guess the ukraine war changed stuff.

>>508684598
I dont care about what Russia is doing or how many Muslims are raping Germany or how clean the British toilets are but seeing this Yuro seeth and cope as he has to pay even more in taxes is well worth it.

>>508697675
kek this. when trump dies this dog n pony show will be forgotten

>>508697296
And I'm merely drawing attention to the fact that Russia can take away ~80% of the EU's gdp with very little military strain for itself. Of course, refusal to surrender can mean actual usage of nukes, but even after the first conventional salvo the damage would be immense.

>>508697810
Post any of the 3 sources mentioned in the post, even the full version of the talk show.

>>508697851
"Europe" doesn't have nukes, Britain and France do and there's a very strong possibility that British nukes are actually controlled by the USA.

>>508698115
Right, Sasha you'll just do what Iran did and somehow it will work out so much better for you.
Russia has failed for over 3 years to deal lasting damage to Ukraine's energy infrastructure and somehow you think you'll snap your fingers and suddenly everything will work out. Nobody is intimidated by the grandstanding of your KGB rumpstate. If you want to commit suicide-by-europe you're welcome to do so.

>>508697612
>>508698115
you really had to double post did you ? Soo
> no you can't post our old propaganda you automatically lose
> yes believe our new propaganda, a single missile will destroy you.. economically, 2nd missile will destroy you militarily
You are literally losing to Europe's poorest country you stupid snow nigger

>>508684150 (OP)
most awesome thing about this is stupidity of cattle..it's just 3% raise goys, not much at all..don't worry.
when in fact our goverment spends "only" 40% of gdp. raise 2%->5% means actually raise from 8% to 20% of goverment yearly budget.not, much right? green arming appeareantly, while my retirement age is 67.
we are going to war in 10 years..sign tapers were right. which south american country is the comfiest? Uruguay? Chille? Argentina?

>>508698506
Study the difference between a cruise missile, a ballistic missile and an IRBM/ICBM. There was only one military usage of an IRBM/ICBM - Russia's strike on Dnepropetrovsk with Oreshnik and those were EMPTY (not even conventional) casings. It was that video with six waves of meteor-like projectiles with six casings in each wave.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/new-russian-missile-fired-ukraine-carried-warheads-without-explosives-sources-2024-11-26/

>>508684256
Kek we rolled the coast guards budget into the defense budget to fug the numbers already. Im gonna bet money they'll start counting the rcmp budget soon as well. Thatll put us over our 2% goal so theyll use that as an excuse to spend even less on the military.

>>508685455
We should invade Russia and Belarus, displace their populations to the far east of Siberia and split the land among NATO members.

>>508698736
I'd choose Chile but learning spanish in Chile might fry your brain.

Here are 6 trillion worth machine that shots artillery pieces but is on wheels.

Thank you i buy it here 6 trillion. Don't forget to put aside for my retirement plan!

Will do, general Coruptovich.

>>508684150 (OP)
I forget if it was nato or a us agreement but for the navy we use to measure the navy by tons in the water. We'd agreed to have whatever it was many tons in our naval fleet. All of the dockyards have barges with giant fucking concrete blocks on them. It was cheaper then buying ships

>>508695232
I said other than europe itself. Stop being a butthurter hung up on your one raison d'etre war. You were attacked by soviets not russians alone.

>>508698977
Apparently the plan is to count mining development towards "defense spending" for the purpose of being NATO's main non-chinese source of critical minerals China currently monopolized.
Pretty sensible, since we ought to have invested in that infrastructure a decade ago when it first became an issue.

>>508695537
Are you really afraid of russians or are you just being a neolibcon parrot? Have russians tried to invade slovenia or somethong?

>>508699053
what spanish children cartoons would you recommend anon? I have to start somewhere.

>>508698714
I've already said above that people can post the full quote from the talk show too.

Tip: 90% of posters both here and on reddit wouldn't do it, if they saw the entire quote. I have seen the full video itself, but making the request and getting nothing in response shows that almost all of those who use the partial quote have never seen the actual material.

>>508694618
well its mostly european leaders there

>>508699457
That's even funnier. They'll just keep adding shit till they can lower military spending to almost zero then count it as a win because we ment out spending goal and saved money.

>>508688384
muerte a Rusia hijo de puta

>>508684150 (OP)
>Trump did it,he save us all.
Cool, he can take American bases out of Europe now, we dont need them around anymore.

>>508694819
Trump just can't stop being a huge faggot apparently